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Clinton Supporters Send Last-Ditch Obama Attack Emails To Supers

May 9, 2008 10:54 AM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


As the Democratic primary nears its long-awaited conclusion, undecided superdelegates have been drowned under a sudden deluge of angry, sometimes vicious emails from Hillary Clinton supporters urging them to not fall in line behind Barack Obama.

The letter writing campaign picked up steam late Thursday evening when several superdelegates confirmed that a coordinated effort had been launched, apparently independent of Clinton's campaign, to raise last-minute concerns about Obama's candidacy and present the specter of voter defections should the Illinois Democrat become the nominee.

In more than dozen messages sent yesterday evening and shared with The Huffington Post, supporters of Clinton emailed a laundry list of political and exceedingly personal attacks on Obama's candidacy, including criticisms of his prior associations and claims that he, not Clinton, had played the race card. The letters underscore the high emotional pitch of the late stage Democratic primary as well as the utter conviction among many supporters of both campaigns that their candidate is solely worthy of the nomination.

Such campaigns targeting superdelegates have mostly been avoided out of fear that the party officials would react negatively to outside pressure. And at least four superdelegates on the receiving end of yesterday's emails suggested that they did more harm to Clinton's cause than good.

In one exchange, Donna Brazille, Al Gore's campaign manager and a stalwart of the Democratic Party, responded with frustration to a writer's threats of defection. "Honestly, this is the 9th email today," she wrote before 8:00 pm. "So I believe you're ready to not only destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights. Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non-stop tax cuts to the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq. Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it."

The Clinton campaign did not return a request for comment as to whether it was behind the email campaign. One author said that she was responding not to the senator's staff, but to commenters on the blog of Taylor Marsh, a committed supporter of the New York Democrat whose readers had gotten a hold of a list of email addresses.

"It was a 'spur of the moment' idea brought about by a blog (Taylor Marsh)," explained Shirley Luther, a Texas Democrat who threatened to vote for McCain should Obama be the nominee. "Tonight several of our bloggers came up with the idea of writing the super delegates. Someone on the blog found a list of emails and posted it.... Everything I wrote is the truth about my political background. The exit polls show I am not alone in refusing to vote for Obama and opting to McCain. This probably would not be possible if there was any other Republican running. But there are a lot of moderate Democrats who do respect his service."

[Added Later]: Taylor Marsh denied any involvement in the affair, saying her readers and commenters were responsible for their own actions.

Luther's email, compared to the nearly dozen provided to The Huffington Post, was mild in tone. Beyond threatening defection from the party, authors attacked Obama for his relationship with Reverend Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers, the unrepentant Weather Underground member who is a Chicago acquaintance of the senator. One writer accused the Illinois Democrat of playing the "race card" against the Clintons -- a proposition most political observers argue is reversed -- while several others called him a misogynist.

"How can we elect someone who has never accomplished anything, refuses to take stands on issues, befriends anti-American terrorists, attends a church for 20 years with Wright, and denies ever hearing anything controversial, and then stages a *public fight* so he can finally denounce him, takes credit for bills in the Senate that he had nothing to do with, and is propped up as the candidate of change??" wrote one Democrat.

Added another: "Obama, in my opinion, will NOT survive the general election against McCain. But even if he does, he will be beholden to the old-time politics, politicians and bundling interests that raised him up to where he is. It's not new, better politics. It's a sales job that's been done by the old power guards... Look at the presidential loser's club that has lined up behind Obama: Walter Mondale, George McGovern, Gary Hart, Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, and John Kerry. Agents of change? Hope, Unity? A new way to do politics?"

At least two other party insiders wrote the Huffington Post expressing concern over the scope ("I've received emails like this for weeks but tonight it started in mass) and negativity of some of the Obama attacks, including one red-state Democrat:

"I spent my entire life in the two reddest states in the entire U.S. so please excuse me if I fail to discern the nuances of the arguments sent my way this evening in what appears to be an orchestrated campaign to intimidate the remaining unpledged delegates by threatening to leave the party and vote for a third Bush term if I and others like me don't vote for Sen. Clinton," wrote the exasperated superdelegate. "I have been uncommitted throughout this campaign because I wanted to see how the candidates performed in a variety of settings. I am proud of them both. But I am horrified by this effort to threaten votes for McCain if super delegates don't vote for Sen. Clinton. I have received hundreds of emails from both sides - but I can say without exception that I have not received a single email from an Obama supporter that threatened a vote for McCain if I didn't support Sen. Obama. You really ought to be ashamed."

UPDATE:

Phil Singer, a spokesman for Clinton, emails to say that the campaign knows nothing about the emails. Meanwhile, two readers write in to say they saw the campaign being coordinated at the friendly Clinton website Hillaryis44.org, as well as the blog page on Clinton's own website.

 

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Obama will never win the general. He has to have her supporters to win and based on what I have seen & heard we don't like him and will never vote for him. We aren't college kids or idiots we actually think and want more than rhetoric! Talk is cheap and based on what I have heard from him and his supporters cheap is the right word to use! There is no substance. The Obaminations can scream at Hillary supporters till they are blue in the face but we will have the last laugh and doesn't Obama know it! So McCain 2008 Hillary 2012 Sayanora BO

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/11/2008

Obama can totally win the general.
I can't wait to see him demolish McCain on the debates. McCain will stumble over his words and have senile blank-outs that reveal his core ignorance despite his being a former tenant of the Hanoi Hilton.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/11/2008

You'd better HOPE McCain is a pushover. That's the only Obama will prevail, even with the press continuing to wipe his behind.

If the neocons go into full attack mode, I can't see how in the heck your man will survive. He didn't even know how to defend himself against Wright. Either he'll be getting a lot of hope, or our party is toast in November.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 05/11/2008

time to change the diaper, you're full of s**t

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/11/2008

The ones who are saying Obama will never win the election---Well, go right ahead and vote for Mccain.It is that type of stupid mentality that put george bush in office not once but twice.See what you got for your inability to rationalize? Your so-called Experienced people have plunged this country to lower depths.Moreover, 4000 plus Americans have died because of their experience.I guess it doesn't bother you that innocent lives have been lost. This is what experience bought us. DO YOU KNOW THAT THE TITANIC WAS BUILT BY EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS? SO YOU ALL GO RIGHT AHEAD,VOTE YOUR EMOTIONS NOT YOUR INTEREST AND WE WILL ALL SINK .It is also amusing to hear the IGNORANT PEOPLE FROM PENNSYLVANIA SAY THEY WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.Their thinking is so remote.it can't even be controlled.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/11/2008


Don't be so quick to cast people into convenient demograpic groups, blithely dismissing their dreams and necessities. Your opinions are informed by popular buzz from the corporate media. They have their own agenda reflecting their masters' voice.

They are responsible for strong-arming caucuses in Texas and Washington
State and points in between; they sent out the Memo on Race before the
SC primary accusing the Clintons of diminishing MLK's role in the passage of
the Civil Rights Act, when any fool knows it took a coalition of many diverse politcal groups to shepherd it through a Congress resistance to change.

The terms black and white uttered by the opposition give fodder to the rascist instincts of Obama troops who either view themselves as victims of an oppressive regime or as guilty white participants in the oppression. The
liberal left dissidents come in all colors and degrees of anti-American flavors.
They can be merely belligerent or violently destructive What they have in common is a rabid revolutionary zeal to change things as they are and make it into their own image.

This article deals with Hillary's supporters petitioning the Superdelegates in her name: the organization "Color of Change" has done precisely the same thing much earlier-on with much success.

Wayne Barrett posted an expose here on H. Po: GOP games Florida and Michigan primaries; Sean Wilentz wrote a piece for Salon.com on how the Obama operatives adopted the same dirty tactics GW Bush's campaign did in 2000.



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replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 05/12/2008

"Obama will never win the general. He has to have her supporters to win and based on what I have seen & heard we don't like him and will never vote for him."

A few days ago, I thought we needed to unite. Today, after reading this article, and the INCREDIBLE comments proving it is all TRUE, I don't want to unite with that segment of Hillary Clinton's supporters who think and act as you do. You are not the majority of her support, nor even half of it, and yes, Obama can win the general without you. If he can't, then we are in the End Times, and nobody can stop it anyway.

You can't be ashamed because it isn't in you.

Goodbye to your shrill, blind, hate-filled minority segment of vicious hags Good riddance to you.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/11/2008

I agree that it's difficult to get kicked to the curb by such arrogant, self-righteous shits and retain any faith in the country. The desire to see the Obama-Nation crowd paid back is totally justified.

However, as sick as it makes me feel to have to vote for that sad candidate and his intellectually-crippled followers, a vote for McCain is a vote against the country. Against us.

I will not vote against myself and my country, no matter how insulted and marginalized I may feel. We can't allow fools to dictate what we do. They've caused a lot of damage to the party, but all we're doing, if we vote for McCain, is making that damage complete. Don't let these people win.

And keep in mind that they don't care, for one moment, who we vote for. Not really. Otherwise, the cretins would have thought about all of this BEFORE they elected to throw the electorate under the bus for the sake of their half-baked hero. We are better than these infants.

Don't think of it as a (gag!) vote for Obama; think of it as a vote against McCain. That's how I plan to bring myself to do it.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/11/2008

What are you afraid of? You want McCain to drive us further into the abyss so Ms. Sociopath can save us in 2012. That makes sense.

Since you Hillary supporters have trouble with math to begin with, here's a problem that you can work on:

McCain appoints 2 psychopaths to the Supreme Court, thus paving the way to overturn Roe v. Wade citing his commitment to "appoint "strict constructionists"

Hillary remains in her Senate seat, still beholden to the insurance lobby, thus making Universal Healthcare a dream of days gone by.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/11/2008

I can't believe these are actually Clinton supporters, or that they are real Democrats. How could any real Democrat yearning for a progressive change after 7.5 years of the Bush catastrophe possibly consider voting for John McCain. If I felt so strongly about Obama that I couldn't bring myself to vote for Clinton if she "stole" the nomination, I could certainly find a better alternative than going over to the enemy. I would either vote third party or independent or just not vote.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 05/11/2008

Trouble with math? I got through university-level math without a single trip to the Math lab. My mom majored in Math as an undergraduate. My dad attended Swarthmore College on a math scholarship.

I'm sure an apology is coming, so I'll hold my breath. (Not.)

Re healthcare plans, Obama proposes a universal plan that is the opposite of universal, and his followers have no issue with it. Watch who you call dumb until you've taken the time to think your ideas through. Unless thinking rates as a crime in your cult.

See ya.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 05/11/2008

Zanti, this is quite a few apologies you've scheduled yourself to receive here at HuffPost. Are you quite rational, hon?

What a question...LOL.

Zanti, take a supper break or something. No wonder other posters think they're seeing more than one Zanti!

BTW, we are all impressed about your mommy and daddy. Now go eat supper.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/11/2008

"BTW, we are all impressed about your mommy and daddy."

I see. I don't detect a little envy, do I? It's not possible that you'd give anything to be as smart as you imagine yourself to be?

Just saying.

Feel free anytime to answer some of the points I've raised, unless you're unable to. In which case, no problem.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/11/2008

Er, I meant Math scholarship. Math is only "math" in the colloquial. You knew that already, I'm sure.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/11/2008

Dear Senator Clinton:

it appears that numerous supporters of your are now e-mailing superdelegates saying that they will vote for Senator John McCain if you are not the nominee.

What about your policies makes you so similar to Senator McCain that your supporters would feel comfortable with this move?

What do you say to your supporters who cannot apparently find a substantial enough difference that they would feel comfortable voting for Senator McCain?

Thank you in advance for your answer.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 05/11/2008

Obama and his supporters have been ruthless in attacking Clinton and using the race card to try to shame people into voting for Obama. We'll see if that is the way to lure Clinton voters over to Obama's side or if it is the way to force them into Obama's camp wont we.

As far as Donna Brazile-she was an Obama supporter from day one-watching her pretend to be neutral on tv over and over just reinforced how dishonest she is. I'm glad Donna that you can win general elections with 25% of the vote-it should be interesting to see how you do it.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/11/2008

does baby need a new bottle? WAAHHHHHHHHHH!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/11/2008

"We'll see if that is the way to lure Clinton voters over to Obama's side or if it is the way to force them into Obama's camp wont we."

You're giving the Obamites far too much credit by suggesting they're even capable of thinking ahead. These people have been willing to throw anything and anyone under the bus to promote their hero, with zero thought to the consequences. To think ahead, one must first be able to, well, think.

These folks are crippled by a need to feel up to date and smarter than everyone else. It's a sickness, really. They'd crumble to dust if they didn't have someone to class-bash, if they didn't have forums for maligning anyone who happens to not be in their group. Pity them.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/11/2008

Soon, Hillary Clinton is going to have to send another kind of email:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisscott/gGBsGX

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/11/2008

Wow. Happy to see an example of the classy criticism of Hillary at that blog. Pretty much the sort of mean-spirited garbage I expected, in spite of all the lies to the contrary.

Thanks for setting the record straight.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 05/11/2008

Stick a fork in it!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/11/2008

What fascinates me the most about the Clinton campaign is that despite the many failures brought on by its inability to understand 21st century technology (e.g. taking months to master getting online donations vs. expensive lavish partys for one time donors), and that all assertions can be easily proved or disproved - that Clinton continues to make in some instances untrue or outlandish statements or promises thinking that somehow nobody will notice. The gas tax holiday was a perfect example - nobody thought it was a good idea - not to mention it was Bill that first imposed a gas tax years ago. I think alot of "hard working non degreed white people" might notice that she who supposedly understands them is herself a multimillionaire. THe good news is people are finally waking up and paying attention - and hopefully the politics of Karl Rove (and sadly now the Clintons) whereby you burn your opponent with half truths and innuendos before an election and before the candidate can respond - will fade - as candidates are better able to answer false assertions quickly and widely. If the Bosnian sniper story didn't teach Clinton that then you have to wonder how smart she really isn't. . .

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 05/11/2008

I'd be more willing to agree with you if I ever saw a quick response and correction to the hysterical sniplooping swiftboating of Rev. Wright. If you looked at the context of what he was saying, the MSM was crazy. I think their misrepresentation is SO false and SO dangerous to this election that they would qualify as the equivalent of "yelling fire in a crowded theater" that the Supreme Court found was NOT protected speech. Look at the context. Get it right. The press didn't, and everything Wright did to correct them was further mishandled. It's shocking.

Same thing with Howard Dean in 2004. It was THEIR mike problem that made Dean look crazy -- he was barely able to be heard in that room, but practically overnight he was gone. The only candidate who had been against the war before it started.

And with the MSM's shaping of what candidates we can see and hear and vote for. Sure Gravel's name is still on the ballot, but he was disappeared by NBC long ago, and the other MSM followed suit. And this before a single vote had been cast in a primary or caucus. Antiwar, antinuke Gravel had challenged Hillary for her Iran-war-enabling vote, her response was a shocking ha-ha-ha, and after that he was gone. NBC's parent company, GE, by the way, has billions in defense contracts.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 05/11/2008

I am so happy that this threat of "jumping ship" by the HC Supporters is backfiring. I was always surprised by exit polls that stated the large number of HC supports that would vote for McCain instead of Obama if Clinton was not the nominee. When Donna said "So I believe you're ready to not only destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights. Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non-stop tax cuts to the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq. Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it." I was always thinking the same thing, especially the part about Roe vs Wade since a lot of Clinton supports are women and pro choice. How could any pro-choice supporter allow that right to be over turned, what about future generations? How could any true democratic
not support the democratic nominee and take a chance that the supreme court would be so far to the right that civil liberties could be at risk? I would never take this chance because the I always remember President only has his job for a max of 4 years but the justices for life.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 05/11/2008

Many of us are trying to expose Obama's lies and corruption as well as his race memo because we are trying to save the nomination for Clinton. She is the only one who can beat McCain. She is the one who is most prepared to save our economy and get us out of Iraq.
We have never received any of our information from the Clinton Campaign. We have gotten it from newspaper articles and from goggling Obama and Rezko and Obama lies. One article leads to another.
I thought the teacher"s unions were against Obama because of his support for vouchers and merit pay but I see Obama made sure his friends received the benefits of handling teachers retirement funds, too.
Obama charmed a bunch of young people and intellectuals, they fell in love with him without bothering to learn anything about him. Once they were "in love" they gave him the attributes they wanted him to have and would not accept the truth about him.
After thoroughly researching Obama, we are convinced he is a pathological liar, race baiter, and corrupt opportunist.

Obama defend his toughness saying "I come from Chicago politics. We're accustomed to rough and tumble," he said.
Chicago politics is well-known for being dirty. Perhaps he should have talked about his experience staying above the fray of it rather than implying he knew how to get into the fight.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/11/2008

How do you reach the conclusion that the most educated and "intellectual" voters in the Democratic Party are being duped, but that the least educated are giving thoughtful consideration to the merits of Hillary's excellent proposals (like the "Gas Tax Holiday" - wow, that took a 'deep thinker') as opposed to her obvious race-baiting? I reviewed both candidates policy positions (as published) and reviewed their voting records (including Hillary's vote FOR the war) and still initially concluded that I could support either candidate (or John Edwards for that matter) at the outset of this campaign. But then, alas, the Clintons started their wedge politics - Bill Clinton's South Carolina comments alone were enough that I didn't want him anywhere near the White House again, but when Hillary joined in with her "not a muslim as far as I know", and her campaign staff started circulating photos to Drudge hoping to further a smear and innuendo campaign, I was done. Hillary and Bill made my choice for me. I knew who I could be for all along - thanks to them, I knew also who I was against. I'm from the South - have spent all my life listening to the "code words" for race baiting. Bill and Hill's time in Arkansas schooled them well.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/11/2008

So, we can conclude that the code words in question included "LBJ" (to whom blacks are indebted) and "white" (which means Caucasian)?

Get real. This idiocy has gotten really, really old. Give your foes credit for something your side lacks--i.e., the ability to think.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/11/2008

I think that's googling, chmmom. I hope you're not a teacher because it sounds as if your Internet searching has been pretty indiscriminate. If you want to find legitimate information on the Web, you need to consider the source, the authenticity, the authority behind accusations, why the accusations are being made, the time frame, and a whole lot of other stuff that you seemed to have overlooked.

For instance, there is plenty of evidence on the web to make a case that the Clintons are guilty of felonies in the Peter Paul case that is currently on trial in CA. However, as an Obama supporter, I made an effort and found that there is more than likely nothing to Paul's accusations against the Clintons. A rumor went around that the Clinton's pastor had done some pretty abominable things, but it turns out that the pastor was from Clinton, NY and had nothing what ever to do with your Clintons.

A lot of us defended the Clintons during the 90s when they were being accused of various high crimes and misdemeanors. So I'm asking you to take a some time to find out the truth about Obama.

Thank you.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/11/2008

Your inability to subject your own candidate, HRC, to the crooked scrutiny you have subjected Senator Obama speaks volumes of the kind of person you are. You are blinded by your fanatical desire to win. At the start of this primary season I was very willing to support either Clinton or Obama, now I cringe at the thought of having to support Clinton, because, I am not so twisted as to think that McCain will be better than ANY democrat, and that includes Mrs. Gorgon. So go have a beer, mourn your loss, and then think long and hard about whether you truly stand for the values of our party.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 05/11/2008

Wow. Sexist. Classist. Arrogant.