Hillary's Chances: Growing Chorus Says It's Not Going To Happen

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First Posted: 05- 9-08 04:28 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obama picked up today. Clinton picked up one. This morning, ABC declared that according to their delegate tallies, Obama had won more superdelegate support than Clinton for the first time. This afternoon, AP's tally showed Obama within half a superdelegate of Clinton.

When asked about Clinton this morning on NBC and MSNBC, former Democratic contender John Edwards said, "it's very difficult to make the math work." Edwards has yet to make an endorsement.

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Barack Obama all but erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among national convention superdelegates on Friday and won fresh labor backing as elements of the Democratic Party began coalescing around the Illinois senator for the fall campaign.


ABC
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ABC News' Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton's support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.


John Edwards on NBC and MSNBC
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The former presidential candidate told interviewers on NBC and MSNBC that Barack Obama will probably top the Democratic ticket this fall.

Hillary Clinton has said that she can still win the nomination - but "it's very difficult to make the math work," said Edwards.


The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obam...
The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obam...
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- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 23 fans permalink
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Everyone's been down on Hillary since the results from Iowa came in.

She's taken the worst pounding of any candidate I've ever seen.

It's disgraceful.

If she had gotten 1/20 of the positive press Obama has, she'd be the Democratic nominee- HANDS DOWN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/13/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

And if he only had a brain ... Check out the YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/11/2008
- Daniel8168 I'm a Fan of Daniel8168 11 fans permalink

If he only had a brain? Wait a minute, weren't Hillary supporters crying "elitist" about a week ago because he has an Ivy league education? Make up your mind, please.

What's particularly funny about the fact that you "cling" to this mis-statement is that you somehow think this is a big deal when Hillary "accidentally" remembered imagined sniper fire. But somehow you can justify that, right?

Please, you just look really, really sad and desperate right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/13/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

Obama is sooooooo great. Praise be to Obama!!! Praise Jesus!!!! Praise Jesus!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 05/11/2008
- Daniel8168 I'm a Fan of Daniel8168 11 fans permalink

Well, no one but you and a few other petulant Hillary fanatics pretend that he is Jesus, but I'm curious when you realized he was sooooooo great? Was it when you realized that he has won more elected delegates, pledged super-delegates, popular vote and states than Hillary despite the fact that virtually every political analyst in the free world thought her candidacy was a lock as little as 5 months ago? Whatever the case, at least you've partially come to your senses. You might still want to work on the religious fanatacism thing though - that can make you look kinda kooky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 05/13/2008
- seenitall I'm a Fan of seenitall 9 fans permalink
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the page is turning without her...the focus now is making sure McCain does not extend the Bush catastrophe...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/10/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

Barack Obama does not mind having Louis Farrakhan's support; he quietly encourages such support as he needs all the black votes he can get. The many faces of Barack Obama.

Rev. Wright is 100% right on Obama: he is a politician and what he says is filtered throughh his political strategy.

Obama supporeters refuse to believe that Obama has serious flaws and will at times apply "old politics" to keep his campaign on track.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/10/2008
- NorVaGal I'm a Fan of NorVaGal 13 fans permalink

Barack Obama has been the first to acknowledge that he is an imperfect candidate. It is part of his "new type of politics" appeal. He makes mistakes, just like every other human being, including you and me.

Louis Farrakhan and his supporters have also made positive contributions to the melting pot that is our country. So have Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, John Hagee, and others. I certainly do not agree with every idea that any of them espouses, but I am willing to give them credit for the good that they have done, as well as the bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 05/10/2008
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Excellent post. Thank-you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 05/10/2008
- hoodrat I'm a Fan of hoodrat 14 fans permalink

Dig it Gal, no one is completely right, or wrong. What I seek is a piece of the puzzle within the statements - however enraging, to find MY truth. Even a knuckle dragger such as I, can discern bullshit from the most eloquent - we are after all human.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/10/2008
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This kind of thinking is the problem: this "we are number one", "I am right you are wrong", "with us or against us", "flag pin=patrio­tism"...et­c.

For too long the US and its citizens have gotten a lot of mileage out of creating and sustaining enemies. It's as if the only way to define what is American is by creating an enemy (Cold War,War on Terror, Axis of Evil) and labelling them because they don't walk or talk or look like us (though some have Oil). Enough already.

Obama's campaign is about this "Enough Already". We can hold on to our differences and use them against each other or we can put them aside and work towards our greater good.

We are all on this little blue ball, spinning in space while a handful behave in such detstructive ways that we are all in peril. We should not tolerate any candidate that wants to sustain differences by creating more conflict (100 years in Iraq McCain/ let's nuke Iran Hillary). THere's NO JUSTIFICATION for this kind of dialogue anymore.

Farrahkan is not the devil whites want to make im out to be. His rhetoric is about uplifting black AMericans and instilling responsibility and pride in who you are. (I'd never though t I'd find myself defending Farrahkan). WHat is the danger exactly? He's far less dangerous than the hatred spewed by O'Reilly and Hannity and Limp-baugh and reaches and influences far more people while offering nothing by way of ideas .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/10/2008

You are way off base...I really hope that all the american people don't feel as you do...you first must be for the american people to begin with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/10/2008
- jean22 I'm a Fan of jean22 10 fans permalink

You're absolutely right "brooklyn...", I'm so sick of all of the divisions and distractions that benefit only the wealthiest what is it 1% of the population. Farrakhan is far less, far less harmful than the O'Reillys, Hannitys, drug addicted limpbaughs and Pat Buchanans who are allowed to routinely spew their hate with the endorsement and even encouragement of the major and cable networks...all while the world listens and looks on. The obsession with Farrakhan is absurd and distracts us from uniting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/10/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 66 fans permalink
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You are right - pro black does not = anti-white. It's about self responsibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 05/10/2008

SF94127 - go spread your racist fear mongering somewhere else. What you refuse to see is your racist attitude and views are your own -- Yep a party of one trying to get others to join your party good luck with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/10/2008

Right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 05/10/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 316 fans permalink
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Funny how you don't address any issue other than race, don'tcha think?
Go peddle your bigotry somewhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 05/10/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 141 fans permalink

Obama is now unstoppable. I think even McCain and his wife will vote for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/10/2008

In your dreams....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/10/2008

Surely hope not and I'm a dem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 80 fans permalink
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Yeah, sure you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/10/2008

Before this is race is over, Cindy will be back on the illegally obtained medication she was caught stealing back in the late 1980s and eary 1990s. Read her profile on Wikipedia. This could be a problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/10/2008
- MyGuyO I'm a Fan of MyGuyO 40 fans permalink
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~~~Hillary is to be pittied. She just will not bow out gracefully until she cheats and steals the nomination...her ultimate goal ~~~There was a time when the Clinton's were respectful politicians, but now that has diminished to the lowest ebb.~~~This woman has no shame. Unbelievable that it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 05/10/2008
- Hillrick I'm a Fan of Hillrick 85 fans permalink
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The chance to leave with easy grace was in February. Now she must continue to be scrappy and concede as gracefully as possible. Perhaps then she can salvage a future life in government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/10/2008

Don't think so. Hillary's -ing endings have become -in endings. Today in W. VA, she even said "sumpin'" for "something." She has a few more states to go. Not even God knows what ploys she has remaining in her ungracefully styled bag of tricks. "Concede as gracefully as possible"? What grace has she left? She and her husband have no shame. They never have. It took me this election primary season to realize my denial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 05/13/2008
- Kim445588 I'm a Fan of Kim445588 4 fans permalink

Didn't you know Hillary, is a coal miner's daughter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 05/13/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 26 fans permalink
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This is the definition of surreal. I can see this morning that the MSM is beginning to regurgitate the Clinton spin once again, I suppose they are more susceptible to threatening emails from frenzied Hillary "supporters". They are starting to play up West Virginia in an attempt to shape the perception that this would be a Clinton "comeback".

I threw up in my mouth a little and had to turn it off.

Trying to understand the spin that keeps this story ( and Clinton's campaign) alive is like trying to bend a Titanium pipe with your mind.

The harder you try, the more your head hurts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/10/2008

Saw a funny site urging Hillary to drop out:

http://www.SurrenderHillary.com/gallery

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/10/2008

Hillarious!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/10/2008
- MyGuyO I'm a Fan of MyGuyO 40 fans permalink
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Sat,12:33p
Oh, no. Was just telling my spouse this morning that....With all of Obama's positive news this week after winning NC primary and Hillary's bad news...Now we have to sit back and take the media spin all over again promoting her supposedly big wins in West Virginia/Kentucky? Please say it isn't so. But, of course, the pundits will begin talking up Hillary all over again (after her wins) just as if this past week on Obama's good news never happened.. I can't take it anymore.

From the beautiful Southwest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/10/2008

He's going Monday to West Virginia, to campaign. It's a shame that the Media won't let it go. They know she'll win big in Kentucky as well but thank goodness he'll hopefully limp over the finish line after the 20th. Just not before they beat him over the head with her greatness pulling votes from the redneck states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/10/2008
- Kim445588 I'm a Fan of Kim445588 4 fans permalink

The key is assume that there is no pipe, just like there is no story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 05/13/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 25 fans permalink

What the Democrats in the Congress should be talking about is getting "Rid " of the "Debold Corrupt Voting Machines. And going back to paper ballots.
If the Democrats do nothing about these machines they will once again lose another "Election.
You can bet the company run by Republican hacks will be rigging their machines for this upcoming election, and it will not matter how many democrats vote. Those States using the machines will go in favor of the republicans.
This is the "Stupidity " of democrats in the Congress they cannot control what they "refuse to see! its been obvious they have let the "Republican "Slime" in the congress run over the "Cowardly Leaders of the Democratic leadership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 05/10/2008
- Daniel8168 I'm a Fan of Daniel8168 11 fans permalink

I was thinking about this myself today. The issue of voting machines that can be manipulated needs to be addressed starting NOW. Perhaps we should write some letters to our congresspersons?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/13/2008

They tried passing legislation that would provide funds to states that want to have paper trails. the Gopigs blocked that legislation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/13/2008

The ever famous hanging chad. The great people of south Carolina it will come back and haunt yall this time as it did florida. Do not be fooled. Because you are black does not mean he understands your pain. I never saw him in the ghettos of Memphis. How can a rich black man or white man for that matter understand the needs or wants of the poor. Let him have grown up in the ghettos of Memphis or New York.

One thing all women no matter what race no matter what background understand is being put down. Because of all of this stupidness and lying once again we will have republican president. This time he will be the oldest president ever.

Nobody ever looks at the whole picture all candidates lie as do most people.

Them being president is never about us. Kinda like the 600 dollars thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/10/2008
- lorisc I'm a Fan of lorisc 4 fans permalink

What are you talking about? Perhaps if you had gone to the ghettos of South Chicago you might have seen Obama. He didn't live in Memphis, he lived in Chicago. With that said, your post makes no sense whatsoever. Really, I can't even figure out what you are trying to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/10/2008
- dwt I'm a Fan of dwt 13 fans permalink
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Scroll down: she identifies herself as a "white woman."

It's called "identity politics": I am a woman, I will vote for a woman (and if you are woman over 50, the chance that you are pro HRC is above 60%).

The rest of her base consists of "hard working white people" (which we all know REALLY means ignorant racists), latinos (who also don't like blacks), and out of touch old people of both sexes and most races.

With friends like those...well, with friends like those, you lose your bid for the Presidential nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 05/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 26 fans permalink
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Being "rich" in your 40's isn't retroactive.
It doesn't erase Barack's upbringing in Chicago's south side (who cares if he lived there his whole childhood). I've never been to Memphis, but why would I need to when I've lived in NEWARK? If you think that New York (I assume you mean the Bronx, Brooklyn, Harlem, etc?) is a lot different from Chicago's South Side, you've probably never been to any of those places.

Maybe you saw them in a movie or something?

This election boils down to two things, either you are afraid of the future and clinging to the past (i.e. what you are already familiar with), or you are reaching towards the future with all of your strength - and KNOW, not hope, know that this is a better place than the hate and fear of those who came before.

I am happy that after November, people with this mindset will either be freed of their fear and paranoia, or be driven deeper into it. Either way, the rest of us will already be on the next page.

Here's an analogy that maybe will make some sense down south; you can't win the Winston cup if you never take your eyes off the rearview mirror. More likely, you'll drive into the wall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 05/10/2008
- uclafan I'm a Fan of uclafan 16 fans permalink
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Does anyone know how the "white working class voters" in these states feel about Hillary implying that they would never vote for a black, or that they don't vote when they don't get their way? Just wondering..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/10/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

Well in the case of PA they must be ok with it - after all Rendell flat our SAID they were racist and they dutifully gave Clinton a 9 point win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 05/10/2008
- Snerdgronk I'm a Fan of Snerdgronk 11 fans permalink

Err ... Pleased to have a spokes 'pe(R)son' in their corner?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 05/10/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

I would like to know more about this myself, uclafan (from this UofWisconsinfan!).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 05/10/2008

As far as the white people and how we stand here goes. When you chose a candidate they represent your closest thoughts and feelings. You ask them to represent you. So the old saying have ur cake and eat it to of course it applies everyone likes to eat cake just some of us get fatter than others. Here is the thing that should ring in yalls head.

McCain is laughing in yalls face right now and Hillary will to. This country even though it thinks it is on poll day it will find out it is neither ready for Black or female president. I myself support Clinton because she knows what the job in tales and I will vote for her in the hopes that one day. The women of this country get their say after so many years of being pushed down and stepped on by men.

But to all of you who support obama understand this. This is a deeply divided country when it comes to race and gender and that will never change. That alone has kept greater Black men out of the highest office of the land and will continue to. I am a white woman a mother of six she can make my choices anytime. As im sure all Black people say he is a black man and knows what we stand for. I am not disillusioned about politics. Its all about money and bragging rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 05/10/2008

jujubrose - you know what I find so sad, you are a perfect example "a mother" who most likely will pass on these views to your children. I have an idea instead of telling your children what can't be accomplished, I suggest teaching them that in gods eyes are people are equal and should be treated as such. The fight against racism and sexism begins in your home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 05/10/2008

"In tales" or "entails"? "That one day" what? Surely, you meant to continue that sentence by removing your period.

Racism will continue as long as those like you perpetuate it. I see into the content of your character, you bigot. Too bad you have six kids. You especially should have learned to practice birth control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 05/13/2008

Having read your post, I now understand why white trash supports Hillary. Get a high school diploma and some college credits. Or would that be too elitist for you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 05/13/2008

part two

because this the democratic party can not unite around one meaning all the democrat's of this country and singly proclaim their support for one instead of spending a gazillion dollars to get them either of them in the number one spot.

To me this has been a silly waste of millions of dollars from people who could have donated this money to the homeless and less fortunate. This is why we are laughed at around the world and not respected. I could only imagine how much better this country would be if every four years these people who donate millions to a candidate for pres donated it all to the homeless and homeless veterans programs. Money that would well spend for their wars. Like maybe exxon. Imagine how many soldiers have did so they can pump oil. They donate to the candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 05/10/2008

You want to see a change? Really? Then make it happen. For SURE and ABSOLUTE. Only a Obama/Clinton ticket can finalize that with the overwhelming power needed for that real change (meaning 180 degrees!) in politics. Especially in foreign affairs. Therefore: Forget about all this zipperleins and wailing. It's a political issue and the target is to do GOOD for the country and it's citizen. Period. Obama/Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 05/10/2008

not in a million years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/10/2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/10/2008
- Snerdgronk I'm a Fan of Snerdgronk 11 fans permalink

Obama has argued that he has the ability to build a different kind of coalition and by beating Hilla(R)y, he has provided a csae study.

Maybe we should start to have the courage to 'believe' what we are seeing and support him in this new political course he has charted - as opposed to fea(R)fully clinging to the past ...


Snerd

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/10/2008
- Jaxxon I'm a Fan of Jaxxon 4 fans permalink
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Ted Kennedy has implied the dream ticket is dead. I tend to agree. Let Hillary file for divorce. Let Bill go back to a new retirement hobby- raking in millions of dollars in speeches about how he destroyed his ex-wife's chances of becoming the first female president of the United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 05/10/2008

I wouldn't count Hillary Clinton out. The people going gaga over Obama don't realize that this is still racist America, always has been, is now, and will always be. We all know the history of blacks in this country. The dominant white powers undoubtedly see Obama as president as a slap on the face and they're not going to stand for it. What they're probably saying among themselves is "A N..... as president? No way." It may be the 21st century but some things will never change. Obama supporters need to take off their rose colored glasses and face reality. Most Americans, myself included, don't want a black man for president. Look at Africa how they govern over there. They can never get their acts together. What makes people think Obama will be any different? He's no JFK and his big mouth wife (by her own admission) is no Jackie Kennedy. Give me a break please!! To even compare her to that classy lady, rest her soul. Please. Personally I think the votes have been rigged but of course I can't prove it just a feeling. Obama, I'm afraid, is going to get knocked off somewhere down the road. That seems to be the thought of many people I've talked to. I think McCain will end up taking it. God help us. Our choices for president are dismal indeed. We'll see what happens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 05/10/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

Even Jesus noted the problems of putting new wine in old wineskins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/10/2008
- utd I'm a Fan of utd 15 fans permalink
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Will someone from her camp please honestly explain to why she is still in it?

If it was to pay off her campaign debt with donations, why did she loan herself 6.4 million dollars recently? If she didn't care about Michigan and Florida until it mattered to her, and now their bump won't help her anyway, why is she making such a big deal about them? Why did she say in the past that she thinks pledged delegates can do as they wish at the convention? What is the logic in keeping a race going where your only chance to win consists of your opponent getting caught either having sex with underage sheep, or dying?

I honestly just don't understand what she is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 05/10/2008
- Snerdgronk I'm a Fan of Snerdgronk 11 fans permalink

Lotsa stuff goes on behind the scene. For example maybe she can artificially pump up her debt and make a 'mill' or two off of Obama ... Maybe the party wants her in the 'race' to pump up registration, involvement and commitment, in the remaining states.

There is also the possibility that even after the first white, black president, Hilla(R)y really believes Ame(R)ica is too racist to elect a half black, white president.


Snerd

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 05/10/2008
- Jaxxon I'm a Fan of Jaxxon 4 fans permalink
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She should stay in the race to ease out of a very dangerous place she's in and help transition Obama to his new role as Dem nominee. New Yorkers are not very happy with her- including my congressman, her strongest supporter in New York, Charlie Rangel. She's got a lot of damage to repair here and across the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 05/10/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

Hope springs eternal in the human breast.

Alexander Pope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 05/10/2008
- vschicago I'm a Fan of vschicago 3 fans permalink

I'm glad that Senator Obama is most likely to be the Democratic nominee; I thought I would have to vote for him as a write-in on my ballot given the crazy news coverage of late. It's amazing how much support he has and given the average small donation he has received from millions of donors already, I have no doubt that those donors along with new donors will keep his campaign fund full and ready to fight for the presidency in the fall. He will have enough volunteers ( I will be one) for a 50 state strategy to encourage everyone to give Obama a chance to describe his vision for the country and see why so many of us Obama supporters believe it's time for someone like him to lead our country.

VOTE OBAMA 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 05/10/2008
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