Hillary's Chances: Growing Chorus Says It's Not Going To Happen

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First Posted: 05- 9-08 04:28 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obama picked up today. Clinton picked up one. This morning, ABC declared that according to their delegate tallies, Obama had won more superdelegate support than Clinton for the first time. This afternoon, AP's tally showed Obama within half a superdelegate of Clinton.

When asked about Clinton this morning on NBC and MSNBC, former Democratic contender John Edwards said, "it's very difficult to make the math work." Edwards has yet to make an endorsement.

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AP
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Barack Obama all but erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among national convention superdelegates on Friday and won fresh labor backing as elements of the Democratic Party began coalescing around the Illinois senator for the fall campaign.


ABC
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ABC News' Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton's support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.


John Edwards on NBC and MSNBC
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The former presidential candidate told interviewers on NBC and MSNBC that Barack Obama will probably top the Democratic ticket this fall.

Hillary Clinton has said that she can still win the nomination - but "it's very difficult to make the math work," said Edwards.


The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obam...
The chorus from major news outlets saying Hillary Clinton's candidacy is almost impossible is growing louder as the Clintons continue to push on. The AP reports on the nine superdelegates Barack Obam...
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- hope I'm a Fan of hope 80 fans permalink

I wonder....

Will John McCain select Dick Cheney as his running mate?

It would bet nice for Republicans to have at least ONE person on their ticket they really like.

And they could be sure of getting the 'Bush' third-term they so strangely yearn for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/09/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1611 fans permalink
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Naaah! That would become a Cheney/Cheney ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/09/2008

Who, "Mr. Fourth Branch?" yeah, that would be good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/09/2008
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Bravo Sen. Obama you ran the superior campaign !

It has been a cohesive,well organized,well planned and thought out campaign.

Sen. Obama has clearly demonstrated and proven his leadership abilities in this arena.

Sen. Obama has also clearly demonstrated and proven he can hold his own under fire and enormous pressure.

For the first time in 7+ years I feel truly optimistic.

To celebrate I will be helping in the voter registration tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/09/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 96 fans permalink
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You are correct, sir!

Good luck with the registrations tomorrow. I hope the campaign is really successful. If I hadn't injured my leg, I'd be out there with my state's volunteers. But I can still make phone calls.

OBAMA 2008! YES WE CAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/09/2008

"for the first time in 7+ years i feel truly optimistic"

I feel the same way but we all have a major task. To unite all democrats!

You know what I was thinking..­.McCain is so old, his memories are probably in black and white!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/09/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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A couple of months back, PBS ran a night of three hour-long documentaries, one on each candidate. I was really amused looking at pictures of the crazy hairstyles of the 70s-80s Obama and Clinton... Then there was McCain. In like 50 years all his hair did was thin and turn white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/09/2008
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LMAO! Did he wear red or blue during the Revolutionary war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/09/2008
- Sctt859 I'm a Fan of Sctt859 2 fans permalink

Hey guys something i always wondered what would happen if obamas wife was white and since obama isnt fully black and mostly white is his marriage with michelle interracial?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/09/2008

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/09/2008

wow...I never really thought about that one. but hey...ther­e has been so much "mingling" I dont think any one is "pure" anything..­.although we may like to believe so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/09/2008
- shelobo I'm a Fan of shelobo 7 fans permalink

Is it that important to AMERICA? We are a country of many different races, and religions,that's what makes this country so wonderful.­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/09/2008
- uclafan I'm a Fan of uclafan 16 fans permalink
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Well that is not the case here so lets stop coming up with scenarios. All I know is that those two made some beautiful children..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/09/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 637 fans permalink
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If you can't vote for a black candidate, vote for the white 1/2 of Obama, and vice versa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/09/2008
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The race is over. Since Tuesday, around 15 superdelegates endorsed Obama. To put this in prospective, Hillary won 12 more delegates that Obama did in Pennsylvania. And the trend will continue as there's nothing in sight that can change all this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008

This is the time for being gracious..­.We may not have like the process that Obama went through but that which did not kill him, made him stronger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/09/2008

This question is for the Hilliary supporters­...I have one question..­.I am not making fun...well I am kinda...Qu­estion? WHERE IN GODS NAME DID THIS ONE WOMAN GET ALL OF THOES PANT SUITS! I mean really...s­ome of thoes colors you just dont see in nature...T­hats all I wanted to ask.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008
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Talbots?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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She gets them from Condi's Pantsuit Emporium. Right next door to Ferragamo Shoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/09/2008

WalMart. She gets an employee discount.
:)

Sidenote: Do I really have to mention that this is entirely in jest before someone makes a big deal out of it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/09/2008
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Well if she doesn't raise enough money, she's gonna have them repossessed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/09/2008
- cluesearch I'm a Fan of cluesearch 14 fans permalink
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Oh please, she has only loaned her campaign 11 million dollars. That isn't even 10% of the Clinton's net worth. Lest you forgot because of the work-a-day Sally routine, the "effete liberal elites" are the Clintons and they won't be taking any box lunches to work even with the hefty loan. I'm sure they will make it up with an advance on the new book--"It Takes A Village of Gullable Supporters To Destroy the First Viable Black Candidate.­"
You know what really gets me--the argument that she is more electable because of the white working class vote. Huh? What makes you more electable is winning 32 states and having 1865 delegates. It's really not that hard to follow. Trust me, if the tables were turned Hillary would have told Obama to get out after Pennsylvania.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 05/09/2008

I am not a fan of the woman, but I like most of her pants suits, especially the bright colors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/09/2008

Dammit, Jeff Gannon, quit posting here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/09/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Stopping Obama - Democrats for McCain

In my state (large, pivotal, and votes democratic in general elections), our initial numbers indicate the usual sizable built-in advantage a democratic candidate would have, can be eliminated if 6% of democratic voters switch to McCain or a larger percentage combination not voting and/or switching.

Preliminary data suggest more than enough voters who are women over 60, or are Latino can be moved into our camp. A higher (and significant) number of democratic blue-collar voters can be counted on NOT to vote at all, fewer blue collar voters would actually switch to McCain.

The estimates of required movement of voters takes into account the expected increase in AA and younger voter participation favoring Obama (based on percentage increases seen in the (open) democratic primary) .

It is absolutely certain that if my state goes red in the fall, McCain will be president. There is no workable strategy that will win the presidency for the democrats without it.

Democrats for McCain – let’s stop the rot and take back our party

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/09/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

And let's help get more justices like Alito and Roberts on the court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008

Alito? You mean he-who-was­-only-pick­ed-because­-Harriet-F­CKING-Mier­s-was-with­drawn? WHAT A LOSER!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/09/2008

Sonny, it appears that you took a wrong turn somewhere. You're in the wrong place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/09/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Name the state.

This is a Clinton argument. Unsupported by facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/09/2008

I suggest that you fire the pollsters who generated the 'preliminary data', as they are about as competent as Mark Penn. You'll need more like a 25 - 30% 'defection' to make it happen, given the imbalance between the raw numbers of registered Republicans and Democrats. Ain't gonna happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/09/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

We need him to name the state.

"It is absolutely certain if my state goes red in the fall..."

It's Howard Wolfson/Hillary Clinton talk. Just sound authoritative, and that way you don't have to provide any facts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/09/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

PensacolaTiger:
"You'll need more like a 25 - 30% 'defection' to make it happen, given the imbalance between the raw numbers of registered Republicans and Democrats. "

Two points, genius:

1. It's about likely voters, not registered voters

2. It's the desired shift in voting patterns (cross-over and non voting) of a segment of the DEMOCRATIC electorate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/09/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 80 fans permalink

I say let the 'bitter' Clintonistas vote for McCain if they choose.

They will be more than offset by the Republicans who will be voting for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/09/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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A "democrat" voting for McCain because they didn't get their way is the most insanely immature thing that I have ever seen. I question that these people are even of voting age. They certainly don't take their country or their civic responsibility seriously. Or the lives of their draft-aged children and neighbors. Or the fate of the Supreme Court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/09/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

clearly, Obama is grooming a NEW generation of Democrats. Hopefully he's most, if not all of what we think we see in his demeanor and history.
I feel really proud of my fellow progressives in the Democratic Party. Now let's register those voters tomorrow and get on with the business of directing Our Country into the future.
Baby..I feel good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/09/2008
- chlllfactor I'm a Fan of chlllfactor 118 fans permalink
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I am working on voter registration tomorrow - part of Senator Obama's goal from the beginning - to register as many voters as possible and get more people involved in the political process. One sign of what a great leader he is and will be! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/09/2008
- undecidee I'm a Fan of undecidee 4 fans permalink

Obama needs a total of 160 delegates to clinch the nomination! Looks like he is going to win.

And looks like there would be a bitter lady out there who will try to move the goal post. I realize that she is saying whites won't vote for Obama because WV is mainly white and they are pro hilary.

They don't like McCain either so I guess that balances it out. The 2 losers in the WV primary will fight it out in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/09/2008

For Obama to drop out, there would have to be something more damaging than the Reverend Wright nonsense. I doubt it, Hillary would have probably played that card already. There is not much nefarious stuff on him though otherwise they would have played it. Yeah, the GOP is hoping there is more stuff because they want to run against Hillary. That is obvious. Rethugs call into liberal talk shows and act "liberal."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/09/2008

Yeah, and they even screw THAT up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/09/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 80 fans permalink

Well, it appears Hillary has lost the nomination and all signs point to a successful general election for Obama.

I certain hope so.

Then again, I was pretty sure Americans were over the malignancy of the Bush Administration in 2004.

And I was wrong.

So I should have learned never to be surprised at how far Americans are willing to debase themselves, so long as they pull the lever for the guise of 'morality'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/09/2008

Actually, I think the Repugnantcan guise of "morality" is finally starting to come apart, thankfully, and being seen for what it is: a lie. The realization isn't happening fast enough, but it's happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/09/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 637 fans permalink
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There is Hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/09/2008

Vito Fossella's little problems in the morality area couldn't have come at a better time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/09/2008

He had an affair with a WOMAN???? But he's a REPUBLICAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/09/2008

yea morality and the moral majority, when huckabee was still in the race, the HEAVY evangelical leaders all said "we will not EVER vote for mccain". now the same leaders are gathering behind mccain! GO FIGURE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/09/2008

I have not been the best Obama supporter. As a matter of fact...SOM­E of the Hilliary supporters were real _ss holes! but Most were just fine. I hold out my hand in fellowship. And I promise I wont call her or her supporters names anymore. truce (hand out to shake)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/09/2008
- NorVaGal I'm a Fan of NorVaGal 13 fans permalink

This is a pledge we all need to take. I agree. It's time for Dems to use all of our energy insuring that John McCain does not secure a Bush 3 presidency. Onward.... march!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008
- 1PALady I'm a Fan of 1PALady 2 fans permalink
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I promise if they promise. They have to want to meet us half way! We all need to stop the bashing and saying untrue things!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/09/2008
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Will you vote against McCain or stay home?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/09/2008
- kdubbg I'm a Fan of kdubbg 13 fans permalink
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I'm an Obama Supporter too, but I agree, time to bury the hatchet (and to stretch that metaphor) How about we bury it deep in the GOP's hind side?

Hillary wants to see the GOP humiliated in the fall too and we all know that. After what they pulled when Bill was in office with the "Contract for America" and the impeachment Crap, I'm SURE she doesn't want them to have the satisfaction of being able to gloat that she made it easier for them to stay in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/09/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

I know this is going to make me sound like a terrible person, but I thought I'd throw this out anyway.

Obama has trouble winning older voters. Clinton has trouble winning younger voters. Now if I'm a superdelegate, shouldn't the tie go to the candidate who gets the young voters? They are the future of the Democratic Party. Given the choice, wouldn't I rather piss off older voters than younger voters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/09/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 96 fans permalink
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Have you considered running for elected office? You may be a natural. ; )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/09/2008

Heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/09/2008
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Dirty politics turns off half the electorate. There's a good chance we could get 10-20% more voters out to the polls in the general, with Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/09/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 637 fans permalink
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I get it, older voter will be dead soon so it won't matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/09/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

Actually, one of the social functions of human death is that it allows progress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/09/2008

Be careful what you say. I am a young-at-heart senior citizen who has been in BO's corner since day 1. The speech he gave at the Democratic Convention was what I have waited all of my adult to hear. We are one people, one America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/09/2008

I have thought, and made, the exact same point. I believe Randi Rhodes has, too. :-) The young DESERVE it. I am 43.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/09/2008
- chlllfactor I'm a Fan of chlllfactor 118 fans permalink
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I am an older female voter - do not through me out to pasture just yet! :) I have been a strong Obama supporter from the time he gave his speech at the 2004 convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/09/2008

40 years experience helping to run her husband's government office.

40 years experience entertaining the movers and shakers.

Daddy a war hero.

Vicar has never said or done anything controversial.

HYACINTH BUCKET '08!

(Would never wear an orange pantsuit, either.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/09/2008
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Hyacinth knows how to get her way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 05/09/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

From a couple of PBS watching elitists ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/09/2008
- hope I'm a Fan of hope 80 fans permalink

Ha!

With the skeletons in Sheratons closet, she'll be a shoe-in for the Larry Craig vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/09/2008

It's Rose she would have to worry about, dear.

Can't have the public thinking they would get another Billy Carter!

Violet's having a Mercedes, sauna and room for a pony should offset that, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/09/2008

Yeah there are quite a few here who write "negative" things about Hillary. But if you went to the conservative websites, you'd find quite a few smears on Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/09/2008

TaylorMarsh posters are far worse in their attacks than anyone hillary bashing here could write.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/09/2008
- NorVaGal I'm a Fan of NorVaGal 13 fans permalink

Check out Hillaryis44.com. It will speak for itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/09/2008
- iBgood I'm a Fan of iBgood 2 fans permalink

I am looking forward to witnessing mcsame the obedient little 'maverick' lose it this summer while Obama remains cool as a cucumber. lol!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/09/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

I think you're correct...­.........I can just see his head explode when the POW/Swiftb­oat/Collab­orator charges start to fly.......­..(might buy 1080 HD)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/09/2008
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