ABC :
ABC News' Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton's support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.
Sen. Obama, D-Ill., picked up two superdelegates this morning giving him a new metric to tout in addition to his current commanding leads in pledged delegates, popular votes, states won, and money raised.
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just heard that clinton is challenging obama to a debate in oregon. really, is it me? i'm actually embarrassed for her. our attention should be on the general. come on, hillary, go out with whatever shread of dignity you have left.
She has no dignity. She would drink Al Gore's bathwater if that would gain her the nomination.
I wish that wasn't true.
I am embarrassed for her as well. I hate to see any woman experience public humilation.
At the same time, I can't help but consider karma - and all the many times Hillary contributed to the public/private humiliation of Bill's many sexual partners - who were often quite young and vulnerable.
Funny....I think that is FUNNY....SHE IS NOT IN THE POSISTION TO DEMAND ANYTHING!!! LOL HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DEBATE HER OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE HER ANYMORE FOR THAT FACT..SHE IS ACTING LIKE A COMPLETE LOSER WITH THAT JUNK! What more is there to say...she is already out there saying You guys can't vote for that black guy...I halfway expect the N word to come falling out of her mouth next week....why should he dignify her anymore with a darn word in her direction....reserve that for people who are actully in the race!!! That's not her anymore!
I shouldn't say this, but I think Obama will win in Oregon. He doesn't need to debae her. He is moving forward and running against McCain now. We know Hllary is a good debater. We have already heard her, and she is losing anyway.
Off topic, but....
Now that Chris Matthews has dyed his hair, is that a sign that he is running for the Senate?
No.
it's a sign that he is 62, and has a contract coming up for renewal soon.
And he's worried.
Really worried.
what a clown.
He needs a big red nose and some over sized floppy shoes and he can head to the circus.
Between him and Russert-MSNBC has lost its mind.
Yeah, I noticed that too. LOL!!!
No, it's a sign that he doesn't like the following a certain ex-ESPN guy has been getting.
Three cheers for KO, who's been with us from the getgo, not flip flopping like Matthews, the front running politico. That's good practice for running for office.
It was just awful. I think it was a mistake or something.
Maybe he's just trying to look more like his idol Hillary :)
Hillary calls for Obama to debate before Oregon - Wow, she's crackin up!
And what's wrong with debating in West Virginia? Oh, yeah, she's leading there.
I think Obama, the nominee, said no.
Unless they were talking about rustling up chickens, WV voters wouldn't care. Look for Hillary to start talking about how her daddy was a coal miner. LOL
Are you serious? She wants to debate? Ha ha ha ha ha I'm the fat lady and I'm a-singing.
Well folks, we are almost certainly entering into a historic moment in history. I have such high hopes for Obama. I haven't felt this excitement since JFK Presidency.
Hats off to President Obama!!!!!!
of course she probably expects obama to foot the bill for it, too.
Riiiiight, like anyone wants to debate a person who is holding a baseball bat behind their back.
Dear Ms. Clinton,
It's time.
Dear Ms. Clinton,
It's long past time.
Really, really long past time.
What was the date of the Wisconsin primary?
Pledged delegates. Popular vote. States won. Money raised. Superdelegates.
My Lord! What do you need? Beverly Sills to come back and reprise Madame Butterfly?!
That's funny!
We, the Democrats, are trying to divorce Hillary and she won't let it happen. Can you imagine what Bill would have to go through, if he attempted to literally divorce her?
might explain why they are still together
I think he did.....multiple times, in Arkansas and in the White House. I don't hate her, btw, I hate HIM.
You know he wants to. Life with Hillary must be an absolute nightmare.
It's hilarious...well actually sad, but after all that, I am still reading posts from Hillary supporters that are in total denial. They still think she is the ONLY person that can win vs. McSame. They think she is this saint that is prolonging everything for "THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE". I don't get it, but what can you do I guess. The only rational I have is that a majority of people voted to re-elect Bush in 2004, now...nothing surprises me.
Obama '08
They also believe that lipstick on their husband's collar, is cherry jam.
yeah it really makes you wonder what planet they are living on to think that someone with +50% negatives can win a general. how embarrassing.
We have to allow them and help them go through the stages of grieving. It will be OK.
I'd be curious to see if Hillary can sing Un Bel Di Vedremo. Her voice is high enough. Wait.....I remember her singing, or trying to sing, the National Anthem. No chance.
Roseann Barr's a better singer than Hillary. Maybe they can both don pantsuits and scream it together!
Ignorant White People for Hillary!
According to First Read, Obama now has 1854 total delegates.
That leaves him 170 delegates away from winning the nomination.
In the remaining states, there are 217 delegates left to win.
If Obama were to pick up his *projected share of delegates coming states (106), that will leave him 64 superdelegates away. This number doesn't include the superdelegate he picked up from Maryland this morning, so make the magic number only 63.
* http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Obamas_projections.html
How much do these change if Florida and Michigan are added to the mix? I just want to know in case the Party DOES decide to include them in.
From what I have read and seen, if that were to happen she could pick up anywhere from 50-70 delegates. This however, will not happen. Unless Barack has a sealed deal, the best she can hope for is a split of Michigan at 64 and 64. Then with Florida, I believe she would only pick up something in the 30s. This of course would raise that magic number of 2025 by roughly 200, unless they penalize those states and give them half votes instead of full votes per delegate. It's an awesome cluster*uck of political math.
Let me do the calculations real quick.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama picks up 3 superdelegates this morning.
Clinton picked up 1, and lost 1.
what fool endorsed her?
For the love of Pete.
A Rep. from PA, big surprise.
I posted during the Ohio craziness that Hillary was channeling Alex from Fatal Attraction. I have seen this same sentiment echoed by others. So I am not alone here in questioning her mental capacity.
When are headed into the boiling rabbit phase. Someone needs to step in and do an intervention.
The Clintons must learn something they have yet to learn. Even though they nearly destroyed the Dem Party in the 90s by they uncontrolled behavior, they never learned that just because you want it doesn't mean you should have it or can have it.
It is up to the Super Delegates to do an intervention. They are out of control-Again. And have been since Super Tuesday. She is now saying white people won't vote for Obama.
Enough!
technically, it looks to me like a full-blown Existential Crisis
I think she has no idea who she is anymore.
I hope she gets help
Existential crisis - hehehe. That's a good one!
She needs it and I am not being a smart ass here.
I know she hit a very deep depression after the Monica humiliation and the Impeachment proceedings. She saw her hopes for the presidency slip away then. Her response was normal for anyone in her place. But is was deep.
She has had a hard road in that she works very hard and still falls short of what she thinks she wants. Its sad really. It explains the depths she will go to sacrifice her morals, because achieving more is more important.
The longer she goes, the more humiliating it will be for her. She will be back to where she was when Bill cheated on her with all those other women.
Its like the voters are cheating on her, choosing someone else they like better and she can't cope with it.
Time to have our hearts go out to her, forgive her and help her off the stage.
You would think her inner circle would do the same for her.
The less believable Senator Clinton looks in the end, the easier it will be for her voters to change their vote by admitting that they made the wrong decision.
Sounds right.
it's amazing that no one from her family has stepped in. I can only conclude that they must be as looney as she is.
She's already boiling bunnies! Remember: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on. ...Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again... ...whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me. There's a pattern emerging here." -HRC
The pattern: bunny-boiling madness driving her to further insult hard-working blacks and smart people.
I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!!
The five words every man never wants to hear.
"Senator Clinton continues to demonstrate that she has what it takes to win the Presidency ... while Senator Obama does well in areas and demographic groups that the Democratic nominee will win anyway," - [Rep. Debbie] Wasserman-Schultz.
http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/story/nelson-wasseerman-schultz-stick-by-clinton/
Debbie Wasserman needs to get that she isn't getting to the WH via Hillary.
Debbie-Its OVER.
After the way she's behaved, Debbie will get into the White House only with a tour group.
Translation: Suck it up black folks and liberal elites, but mostly black folks.
Debbie who? Debbie what? I am much more interested in the debt the Clinton campaign has run up. Presidency on credit card deb, anyone?
Translation: We take the black vote for granted. O.K. keep messing around. I may just stay home if this is stolen from Obama. How about that?
Arrogance has been their downfall, and they still haven't learned.
Obama's web site says he has 266 superdelegates to HC 275.5
Yes !!!!!!!!!
This is a victory for the People first and foremost !
We are taking our country back from the insiders and greedy, self centred politicians who think that merely touting the words "I am fighting for you" will magically grant them a ticket to the ultimate political post .
It's time for CHANGE !
To all Hilliary supporters...I am an Obama supporter that holds out my hand in fellowship. We are all democrats...lets start acting like it...BOTH SIDES!
I agree with you, we are all in this together. We will need Hillary's supporters to win in the fall. We need to keep our eye on the ball and that is to defeat John McSame, you know the one that did not vote for Bush in 2000! Please let's stop using words that divide us as a party. We all have feelings and no constituent is more important than another. The Democratic party needs everyone in order to win! We're a big tent and lets start acting like it!
No we do not need them. We need TRUE Americans. Do not kowtow to these idiots starved for attention. If they are so stupid as to vote for McCain then they deserve whatever comes. Do not get me wrong .. I understand coalitions. It was a coalition that put Chimpy in power now based on their ignorance that "he is just like me" when in truth he and his ilk don't give a drunken pancake crap about the idiots beyond election cycles. I would rather lose on the side of STANDARDS than with idiots who will demand more stupidity as they whore themselves to the highest bidder.
It's over. It's over. It's over. Give it up, Hillary.
To quote from Betty Comden and Adolph Green (Bells are Ringing)
The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid
It's not over, it's just beginning......................I mean btw Obama and McCain.
Hillary worships at the altar of the politics of persoanl destruction.
Her supporters need to stop drinking Kool Aid and stop looking at her thru rose colored glasses.
Hillary is Dick Cheney in a pants suit, she's a kissing cousin of Karl Rove, and she's a closet supporter of John McCain.
Can we PLEASE abandon the "Kool Aid" analogy?!
Dyer: When you label others, you're not defining them. You're defining yourself as someone who NEEDS to define and label others."
Me: When you label others as needing to define and label others because they label others then you're defining yourself as someone who needs to label and define others for labeling and defining others because they label and define others definitely.
I'm with you on the kool-aid thing. I'd also like to see the following phrases phased out: "Cintonista (and similar slurs), Obamamaniac (and similar slurs), McSame (and similar slurs), kitchen sink, and my new most hated phrase "chickens coming home to roost". It would be great to move back to being mature adults that can argue without sounding like my kids.
Just curious:
Are you labeling Verlaine as a labeler?
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First Posted: 05- 9-08 08:52 AM | Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM