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First Posted: 05- 9-08 09:41 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in recent months.

"Historically after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particularly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. So, obviously, I would want to have a broad range of discussions with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about
the process and have her on the team moving forward."

Talking to reporters in front of a Mexican restaurant in Woodburn, Oregon, the Illinois Senator warned that such discussions are "premature right now. She's still actively running and we've still got business to do right here in Oregon and in other states."

The Clinton campaign dismissed out-of-hand any talk of Obama helping Clinton with her debts. "We are running a competitive primary race," said spokesman Phil Singer. "We have seen the dangers of declaring 'mission accomplished' before."

Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.

There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. He could, in addition, hold a joint fundraiser with the money
split between Clinton and Obama.

Strong opposition to helping Clinton, in the event that she withdraws from the contest, has emerged among Obama supporters who continue to voice intense anger at Clinton and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn. The opposition surfaced immediately after the Huffington Post ran stories
raising the subject.

At an Obama-run blog
for supporters, a number of contributors have argued that any effort to help Clinton pay off bills would be insupportable.

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"The read-between-the-lines statement that I am hearing is that he would be expected to use his campaign clout (which as far as I am concerned, means his ethics and integrity) to attach her debt consolidation efforts to his future fundraising efforts. Which means he WOULD be taking money from lobbyists - big time!!!!" wrote "TH" of California. "So yes, while he may not be selling us out by giving away our hard earned money directly to her, Obama would be selling out by using his new political clout to help pay off her debts. Memo to OBAMA: You do not need to sell one ounce of your soul to gain this nomination. NOT THIS TIME! Remember? NOT THIS TIME!!!"

"Ken" from Wagoner, Okla., wrote: "I am also reading Sen. Obama is considering Hillary for his VICE !!! I am wondering what has happened to Sen. Obama, has he gone BONKERS? I pray he has nothing to do with the Clinton's or their financial problems !!!"

There is deep animosity towards Clinton in the Obama camp, where many believe she has raised issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

In addition, Mark Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is seen as the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts - as much as $10 million by some estimates -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and

Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the
bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a Clinton-Obama pact.

On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
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- Rharte I'm a Fan of Rharte 15 fans permalink
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So this is it folks. This is what our democracy has come down to? Why won't she just do what is right for the party? Every other candidate dropped out gracefully when they saw no light at the end of the tunnel. So what makes Hillary so damn special that she needs a going away present such as V.P slot or debt assistance from Obama. I have NEVER seen the media bend over backwards for anyone like this before. All this talk of "Give her time" and " lets give her some room to exit gracefully". I guess she really feels a sense of entitlement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/11/2008
- anney I'm a Fan of anney 9 fans permalink

Just about a year ago, Hillary announced she would help pay off Tom Vilsack's campaign debt of $400,000.

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"A representative for Clinton's campaign said they are not sure how their campaign will do that. They concede that at some point, Clinton will have to contact her supporters."

http://www.kcci.com/politics/11407584/detail.html?rss=des&psp=news

In return, Vilsack gave Hillary his endorsement for her presidential campaign.

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This is old-style Washington political maneuvering, and Senator Obama has an obligation to reject this kind of favor-trading. He certainly isn't going to have time between now and the inauguration to devote any serious efforts to help her much. He can lawfully ask his supporters to contribute to her debt-relief, but not much more. If he does this much, under his own rules of ethics, he still isn't obligated to promise her a place in his administration as a reward.

She is neither a gracious campaigner or loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/11/2008
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But Katie, I'm not going to lose!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 05/11/2008
- BitterInPA I'm a Fan of BitterInPA 3 fans permalink

This will not happen. It would be illegal.

The committee to committee limit is $2000.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/10/154245/021/244/513343

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 05/11/2008

Looks like Ariannas sensor army is out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 05/11/2008
- ElPerro I'm a Fan of ElPerro 26 fans permalink
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sensor?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/11/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 05/11/2008

I think it would be the fall of both: the House of Clinton and the House of Obama.
In other words: He would be no less guilty if he ever offered her $ 25 million than she, a real millionnairess, if she ever accepted !!
If both happens---he gives and she takes--I will not vote for anybody in the fall, I will stay at home (that is...if I still have it by then). I hope you will do the same.
Count how many victims-- those who only need a small, $ 50,000, financial help to avoid a foreclosure-- could be rescued with $25 million !!!! It is a simple math and would be such a huge help.
I believe that since Barack Obama has already found a source of $ 25 million --he will do the right thing and bail out his fellow Americans and voters who need this money the most: foreclosure victims. Millions of them cannot put their lives on hold till January 2009.
I believe that millions of Americans equal CHANGE with ACTION.
Not just any action, anywhere, any time. The action of rescuing foreclosure victims here and NOW.
$ 25 million Barack Obama will --I want to believe--offer, will not rescue all but it would be a good beginning. It will save some before the Congress finally approves $ 300 billion rescue bill. I see other political and business movers and shakers adding their donations.
Am I dreaming?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 05/11/2008

Uh Axelscrod is not running. Make your checks payable to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Too damn funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 05/11/2008
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

David Axelrod was on Fox News Sunday just now. He said that it ain't gonna happen. He said it was a "misunderstanding." I'd say it was more of a huge lie by Thomas Edsall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/11/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 86 fans permalink
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"it ain't gonna happen"

Whew!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 05/11/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 67 fans permalink
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Michele Obama would never allow Barack to do anything for the Clintons. And, that's a fact.

That's one strong and powerful sista, and she remembers EVERYTHING Hillary did to her man. And, once you mess with a sista, as many of us know, you might as well be trying to snatch meat from an angry lion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 05/11/2008

Thanks for providing a compelling reason for men to exclusively seek white women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/11/2008

lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 05/11/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 67 fans permalink
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Oops, I did give you a convenient "permission slip" cover. I bet you cite Bill Cosby and take out of context quotes of MLK often, as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/11/2008
- ElPerro I'm a Fan of ElPerro 26 fans permalink
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I second that, sort of. But I'd change it to, "...for men to exclusively seek white, Latina, Asian and Native American women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/11/2008
- Insightful I'm a Fan of Insightful 8 fans permalink

Yes, Michele Obama does project ANGER AND RESENTMENT big time. That is one of the reasons she should not become first lady. Read it and weep, all of you who want this CHANGE.

Hillary is a decent woman and all of this abuse is a disgrace. We all need to take a second look at what we are being stampeded into with Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/11/2008

Let me guess...she's an angry, uppity black woman; right?

Isn't that what you're really trying to say?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/11/2008

Why don't you take your lunch money, your burning cross and your KKK hood and join hillary in West Virginy. Your queen is $25M in debt - I'm sure that if you make a big donation you'll get a nice "Vote for Whitey" bumper sticker in return.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/11/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 243 fans permalink
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Hillary is a decent woman? I would like some proof of that. It's been sorely lacking for months now. One sort of person I've never trusted, someone who is smarmy and ingratiating to your face and then stabs you when you turn around. That smarmy statement about being honored to be next to Obama, it's like, can it sister, we know your game. "Honored" one day and shouting from the rooftops that he hasn't passed to presidential threshold the next day and only she and McCain have what it takes. Stupid for someone supposedly so smart.

Admit it, if Edwards, Richardson, Kucinich had pulled any of her stunts you'd be looking at them as if they had three heads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 05/11/2008

A Democratic primary process that's lasted over a year is suddenly a "stampede?" And if Michelle Obama projects "ANGER AND RESENTMENT," what exactly is it that you and your candidate are projecting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/11/2008
- C65 I'm a Fan of C65 9 fans permalink

GO GIRL!!!!! YA GOT IT RIGHT.I'M 65, CAN'T FORGET BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET US,SO
I'M STILL REMEMBERING.
THAT'S WHY I UNDERSTAND WHAT MICHELLE MEANT WHEN SHE SAID;"FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I'M PROUD OF MY COUNTRY".THEN HERE GOES THE BEER HEIRESS,BLONDE HAIR AND BLUE EYES,SAYING;"I'M PROUD OF MY COUNTRY".
I'M SURE SHE IS ,IT HAS SERVED HER WELL,I WOULD HAVE FELT BETTER IF
THAT STATEMENT HAD COME FROM THE BEVERLY HILLBILLYS.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THEY WON'T LET YOU FORGET WITH THEIR STUPID
AND INSENSITIVE REMARKS.
MY DAUGHTER IS MICHELLE OBAMA'S AGE AND DURING SCHOOL DESEGREGATION
MY DAUGHTER WAS ONLY 6YRS.OLD AND GROWN ADULT MEN AND WHITE WOMEN
WAS THROWING EGGS AND DIRT AT LITTLE KIDS,BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK,
I'M SURE MICHELLE EXPERIENCED SOME SIMILARLY INCIDENTS,BUT BECAUSE
WE ARE THROWN SOME CRUMBS,WE ARE TO FORGIVE AND FORGET.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 05/11/2008

1) shout less
2) try to make sense

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/11/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 20 fans permalink

This money thing is NOT a problem for Hillary. There are rich backers out there who will bail her out. They always do. Maybe Olmert could give her some of the millions he got in bribes ober the years. Nice going Olmert. What class!! What an asset to Israel's prestige!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 05/11/2008
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"This money thing is NOT a problem for Hillary." Are you serious?? If so, I can see why you go by the name of 'mystic'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 05/11/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 20 fans permalink

I think I am quoting Jonathan Alter of Newsweek (correct me if I'm wrong)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 05/11/2008

Bitter Jews for Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 05/11/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 243 fans permalink
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Just get Barbra Streisand et al to bail Hillary out. I'm sure they're having nervous breakdowns out in Hollywood right now because their gal didn't make it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 05/11/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 20 fans permalink

So far Obama has shown superb judgement and has led a brilliant campaign, compared to the shoddy divisive amateurish one Hillary has run (with many resignantions). No one can ever accuse him of being a fool. His campaign advisors know the consequences of him bailing her out, and based on his excellent judgement to date, I have every confidence he will continue to make excellent judgement. Such a bail out would hurt him. Why on earth would his judgement lapse just to save someone who worked so hard to destroy him? Relax. He'll handle it correctly. (Now if I were in his place, not being a pro myself, I would have her lambasted her in the public square, but that's me not him).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 05/11/2008

Tom Edsall keeps hinting at how Obama will financially bailout Hillary. Does Hillary owe him money or what?

Tom, those of us who donate to Obama do so in order to see him elected president, not to ensure that the Clinton fortune is intact. The fact that she kept throwing good money after bad is really her problem, not ours.

I might not be so adamant about this had Hillary demonstrated a bit of class and withdrawn when it became impossible for her to win short of overturning the voters with the SDs. However, she didn't do that. Let her stay short the $11.4 mil out of her own pocket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/11/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 67 fans permalink
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He might as well be musing about the Black vote suddenly shifting to support a racist. Dave Chapelle's hillarious Black Klansman anyone? LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/11/2008

faretheewell: Well said. If she's broke, why and how is she still running? Why did Obama bring it up? She's still out there, waiting for an opportunity to slash your throat (metaphorically). If she gets the chance she won't think twice about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 05/11/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 71 fans permalink

Remember when the IRS asked Willie Nelson to pay his taxes and he went public and asked his fans to pay them because he had done all of those "help the farmer" concerts. Everyone laughed. Nobody but Willie took his request seriously. K feel the same about Hillary's debt situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 05/11/2008
- Ahyoka I'm a Fan of Ahyoka 3 fans permalink
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"We're going to need her backers in November".
LOLOLOL Good luck with THAT! After slandering her name and calling her viscious names for months and making every nasty mean joke in the book about her and her family ,you silly dreamers want her supporters to all the sudden think you LIKE her or HER SUPPORTERS?
You folks are too much. Really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/11/2008
- mystic I'm a Fan of mystic 20 fans permalink

Ever hear of Hobson's choice? Her backers either vote for Obama or a dictatorship. What a dilemma!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/11/2008
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'LOLOLOL Good luck with THAT! After slandering her name and calling her viscious names for months and making every nasty mean joke in the book about her and her family ...'

Are you, in fact, from planet earth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 05/11/2008
- ElPerro I'm a Fan of ElPerro 26 fans permalink
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So, you're saying that Hillary's supporters are going to be sore losers, take their ball and just go home to cry? They'd rather have four more years of war-mongering, corporatist, theocratic Rethuglican rule than to vote for a Democrat who ran a superior campaign and beat her fair and square? Your post suggests that Amy Poehler's SNL skit last night was painfully accurate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 05/11/2008
- C65 I'm a Fan of C65 9 fans permalink

AHYOKA,
THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN,RIGHT OR LEFT.
#1 IF HER BACKERS ARE NOT HURTING FROM LOST JOBS,LOST HOUSES,LOST
RETIREMENT,HIGH FOOD AND GAS PRICES THEY ARE NOT A MAJORITY ANYWAY,
AND IF THEY ARE AND VOTE FOR MCCAIN INSTEAD OF OBAMA THEY DESERVE
WHAT EVER HAPPENS TO THEM.
#2 IF HILLARY DIDN'T HAVE THE JUDGEMENT TO HIRE WORKERS AND MANAGE
FINANCIALLY HER CAMPAIGN,SHE DESERVES TO PAY EVERY DIME OF HER AND
BILL$109 MILLION.HOW CAN ANYONE BALANCE THE BUDGET OF THE U.S.OF A.
AND CAN'T MANAGE A CAMPAIGN,THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE WE DON'T NEED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/11/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 45 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 05/11/2008
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

Like she wants his filthy lucre.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 05/11/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 243 fans permalink
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His filthy lucre came from ME. I don't want her to have it either, so you and I can agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/11/2008
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