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First Posted: 05- 9-08 09:41 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in recent months.

"Historically after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particularly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. So, obviously, I would want to have a broad range of discussions with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about
the process and have her on the team moving forward."

Talking to reporters in front of a Mexican restaurant in Woodburn, Oregon, the Illinois Senator warned that such discussions are "premature right now. She's still actively running and we've still got business to do right here in Oregon and in other states."

The Clinton campaign dismissed out-of-hand any talk of Obama helping Clinton with her debts. "We are running a competitive primary race," said spokesman Phil Singer. "We have seen the dangers of declaring 'mission accomplished' before."

Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.

There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. He could, in addition, hold a joint fundraiser with the money
split between Clinton and Obama.

Strong opposition to helping Clinton, in the event that she withdraws from the contest, has emerged among Obama supporters who continue to voice intense anger at Clinton and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn. The opposition surfaced immediately after the Huffington Post ran stories
raising the subject.

At an Obama-run blog
for supporters, a number of contributors have argued that any effort to help Clinton pay off bills would be insupportable.

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"The read-between-the-lines statement that I am hearing is that he would be expected to use his campaign clout (which as far as I am concerned, means his ethics and integrity) to attach her debt consolidation efforts to his future fundraising efforts. Which means he WOULD be taking money from lobbyists - big time!!!!" wrote "TH" of California. "So yes, while he may not be selling us out by giving away our hard earned money directly to her, Obama would be selling out by using his new political clout to help pay off her debts. Memo to OBAMA: You do not need to sell one ounce of your soul to gain this nomination. NOT THIS TIME! Remember? NOT THIS TIME!!!"

"Ken" from Wagoner, Okla., wrote: "I am also reading Sen. Obama is considering Hillary for his VICE !!! I am wondering what has happened to Sen. Obama, has he gone BONKERS? I pray he has nothing to do with the Clinton's or their financial problems !!!"

There is deep animosity towards Clinton in the Obama camp, where many believe she has raised issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

In addition, Mark Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is seen as the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts - as much as $10 million by some estimates -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and

Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the
bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a Clinton-Obama pact.

On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
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- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

Oh--the Black man is just sooooooo polite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/10/2008

Linking such a horrible comment to WWJD (What Would Jesus Do) makes me sick. You have got to be a neocon Bush-loving troll. I can think of no one else who would be so crass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 05/11/2008
- Denni I'm a Fan of Denni 8 fans permalink

Trinidad707, despite the appearance that the Clintons can be bought, Sen. Obama is NOT trying to buy them. 1 - She's LOST THE NOMINATION. That's clear. 2 - It's only speculation that it will happen, even the candidate has not committed to this. I'd hate to see Sen. Obama go this route, because I think it tarnishes his message in some way to bail out a multimillionaire from the mess she created.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 05/10/2008
- Denni I'm a Fan of Denni 8 fans permalink

It astounds me that she's willing to continue to go into debt (meaning someone's not getting paid because she'll 'owe' them) and she's willing to leave vendors and others unpaid to continue her march toward the Democratic Party destruction. Strength? This is not STRENGTH, it's self-indulgent madness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 05/10/2008

I am horrified to think that money I donated out of my fixed income to the Obama campaign would be used to pay off Hillary Clinton's debt!!! I had to scrape to send him $25. If he does this, I would be EXTREMELY disappointed. I am an Independent and was not donating to a party and especially Hillary Clinton, who ran a nasty campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 89 fans permalink
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From the article:
"Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods."

Don't worry, none of our donations could be used to bail out Hillary.

Nice to have you independents on board. Together we can take our nation back and change it for the bettter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 05/10/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 102 fans permalink
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Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods.

IMHO, I don't think he will help her the way she is "continuing" to conduct herself, why doesn't she focus on going after McCain!!!

In the beginning I was excited at the idea of a women for president and still am, but not this one!

what gets me...
WHY is she still bashing him in Oregon this afternoon??

Thank you Obama for taking the high road and focusing on the job ahead!

I hope this week WV sends her a VERY LOUD message. *fingers crossed*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 05/10/2008
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the latest is that Bill will be here tomorrow to have a "bring your ballot" rally where they vote for Hillary and they will have raffle prize to "meet Bill". Yech... I wish they would stay out of Oregon. They continue to pander and bribe the old and uninformed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 05/10/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

Did you know your candidate thinks there are 57 states in the USA?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/10/2008
- Msohio I'm a Fan of Msohio 7 fans permalink

The hardworking white people can' t help Hillary. So the white people who don't work hard and the others (hardworking and not) are expected to pay for her lies and propaganda. Hillary--shame on you!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 05/10/2008
- Msohio I'm a Fan of Msohio 7 fans permalink

Hillary can earn more money that I can. She can take on a second job like writing another book. She has the expensive New York home, not to mention the home in Washington. While Schumer and others live together in close-knit apartments. Barack---I do not want my money going to her when she is still on the campaign trail wasting money. She is expected to win Ky and W Va. Why is she still there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 05/10/2008
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Is John McCain going to pay back the money Mitt Romney shelled out to his own campaign? Did Ross Perot and Michael Bloomberg "loan" money to their campaigns? NO.

The Clinton's have made 109 million dollars since 2000. Just eat it. Like other well to do candidates have done over the years. I don't understand why it's even being considered to take money from Obama and give it back to the Clinton's so they can pad their personal wealth???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 05/10/2008

she's rich. she can pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

But why should she when she can get you to pay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/10/2008

This is like the lady who fainted withiin camera range at Obama Revival meeting...­.pleez...t­he benevolent Obama Here Hillary let me help......­..........­..more like here you can have this if you'll drop out...thats called blackmail in my book!.who's kidding who here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/10/2008

i think u mean 'who is kidding whom"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 05/11/2008

here, here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 89 fans permalink
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I'm not donating one dime to the DNC until we have our nominee.

I donate to Barack Obama and to individual candidates running for Congress.

Here's a good place to direct donation, too:
http://www.actblue.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 05/10/2008
- markar402 I'm a Fan of markar402 5 fans permalink

Did Hillary fund her campaign with tainted money?

http://tomflocco.com/fs/SenClintonGrenada.htm

God help us all if this is true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/10/2008

Just read your link re tomflocco. My God, I do hope that this is not true!!!
What an absolute horror if your link info is true. MAYBE that is why the
Clintons are so desperate. They need to pay back tainted money?
That will be millions on top of the 25 million she owes now and then
the PeterPaulv­ersusClint­on Court case that is pending that they got set aside until after the election!

This would make them very dangerous and desperate for sure. Sure answers alot of
questions about the frenzy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 05/11/2008

Regarding the Paul vs. Clinton business....

How is it that this has been so thinly reported in the MSM? This is potentially far more relevent than Wright, or any other tangentially related acquaintance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 05/11/2008
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

It's time to put this goddamn lie of a story to rest, Mr. Edsall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/10/2008
- seanosul I'm a Fan of seanosul 2 fans permalink

Whatever Democrats think of JFK and his VP, all should recognise the history. Hillary issued a leaflet with a gun faced to the head of Obama; She should not be paid off she should, at minimum be expelled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/10/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I really hope that is not true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Well, of course it's not true. "A gun faced to the head", cute. What, there were two or more pages and one had a photo of a gun, and somewhere else there was a photo of Obama?

Man, the BS here never stops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 05/10/2008

do you believe everything you read on the internets... or i mean just made up? where's the url?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/10/2008


"Senator? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: NOTHING."


-Michael Corleone

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/10/2008

yup, b/c I want a leader like a fictitious mob boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/10/2008
- little I'm a Fan of little 2 fans permalink

All I can say is make sure a promissory note is signed. We don't want Obama and HRC ending up on the Judge Mathis show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/10/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 64 fans permalink

And be sure the note states that the small business owners Hillary has shafted will be paid, but that Carville will not see a dime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/10/2008
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