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First Posted: 05- 9-08 09:41 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in recent months.

"Historically after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particularly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. So, obviously, I would want to have a broad range of discussions with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about
the process and have her on the team moving forward."

Talking to reporters in front of a Mexican restaurant in Woodburn, Oregon, the Illinois Senator warned that such discussions are "premature right now. She's still actively running and we've still got business to do right here in Oregon and in other states."

The Clinton campaign dismissed out-of-hand any talk of Obama helping Clinton with her debts. "We are running a competitive primary race," said spokesman Phil Singer. "We have seen the dangers of declaring 'mission accomplished' before."

Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.

There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. He could, in addition, hold a joint fundraiser with the money
split between Clinton and Obama.

Strong opposition to helping Clinton, in the event that she withdraws from the contest, has emerged among Obama supporters who continue to voice intense anger at Clinton and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn. The opposition surfaced immediately after the Huffington Post ran stories
raising the subject.

At an Obama-run blog
for supporters, a number of contributors have argued that any effort to help Clinton pay off bills would be insupportable.

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"The read-between-the-lines statement that I am hearing is that he would be expected to use his campaign clout (which as far as I am concerned, means his ethics and integrity) to attach her debt consolidation efforts to his future fundraising efforts. Which means he WOULD be taking money from lobbyists - big time!!!!" wrote "TH" of California. "So yes, while he may not be selling us out by giving away our hard earned money directly to her, Obama would be selling out by using his new political clout to help pay off her debts. Memo to OBAMA: You do not need to sell one ounce of your soul to gain this nomination. NOT THIS TIME! Remember? NOT THIS TIME!!!"

"Ken" from Wagoner, Okla., wrote: "I am also reading Sen. Obama is considering Hillary for his VICE !!! I am wondering what has happened to Sen. Obama, has he gone BONKERS? I pray he has nothing to do with the Clinton's or their financial problems !!!"

There is deep animosity towards Clinton in the Obama camp, where many believe she has raised issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

In addition, Mark Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is seen as the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts - as much as $10 million by some estimates -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and

Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the
bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a Clinton-Obama pact.

On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
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Hillary has no need for Obama's money. She has no desire to be VP.

Hillary will finish the campaign, complete her electoral and geographic sweep of the country:

http://www.diversityj.com/ElectoralVoteStates.html

That's the blue swath from Massachusetts to California, from sea to shining sea (I'm sure the Obamatons will say that's racist).

After the primaries, we will wait until the Convention when the SuperDelegates cast their votes and the result will be final whichever way it goes.

In the meantime the Clinton voters have emerged as a clear economic demographic force (which also includes the AA community once the KoolAid wears off) that will emerge as the FDR legacy core of the Democratic Party.

It is clear that powerful Democrats can no longer put up with the whacked out neuroses of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House nor namby pamby Harry Reid as Senate leader. It is time for new Congressional leadership which will be built around the Clitonian economic philosophy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/10/2008
- rzan I'm a Fan of rzan 6 fans permalink

You and all the other Hillary "supporters" need to help her pay her debt. Have you been contributing to your favorite candidate? I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/10/2008
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The name is an obvious troll sock!

The guy's never given $ to a liberal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

It would be wrong for Clinton supporters to contribute to her campaign when they can get Obamanuts to do so. The more the Clinton supporters contribute, the less of Obama supporters money will go to her. They want to maximize Obama's supporters bail out of Clinton. This will have the secondary effect of depleting the available resources of the Obamanuts themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/10/2008

deja vu- I've read this rant all over HuffPo tonight. RichLiberal, are you BigLib reincarnated?

Seriously, you McCain supporters must be desperate. If you are this desperate now, wait until Obama and McCain debate. Grumpy Old Man vs. Young Rising Star. Ouch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

What a refreshing change to read such a well constructed and thoughtful post. Alas they are few and far between here, at HuffPo.

Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/10/2008

You and Parkhurst should go on a date.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/10/2008

I won't say its racist. Just stupid. This is yet another case of the Clintonites changing the score card to suit their desperate claim to the nomination.

Electoral vote arguement in a primary is absurd. Clinton's own argument against Obama eliminates using EV's for her favor. She says Obama is winning states that are Red so he wont' get those and that she wins the blue states, as if that means he won't win them also.

Well, Hillary will NEVER win Texas, Arizona, Tennessee, or Oklahoma. So lets wipe out the 56 EV's right there, that puts her down to 239. It's also very unlikely she'll win Indiana, New Mexico, or Nevada. If she goes by her own argument that you can only win the states you won in the primaries, and only those that aren't normally red, then SHE CAN'T WIN EITHER. That's why its a stupid argument and a rediculous metric.

Oh well, it doesn't matter. Your philly is not going to win. Argue all you want. It won't change it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 05/10/2008

Having contributed to Obama's campaign myself, I don't mind him tapping into his supporters to ask that we help retire any past candidates' debt, including Richardson or Dodd.

I would much rather have the option to choose among any who still have outstanding campaign debts, not just Clinton.

I do hope Obama will use this option to help the Democrats who actually deserve the help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/10/2008

I believe Hillary is marketing a co-presidency to the superdelegates and voters. As VP Clinton would in essence be the "President" of the white people and Barack would be "President" of blacks and other people of color.

However, Clinton's own propaganda has now sealed her fate. Hillary's claim that Barack cannot carry the white vote without her now makes it IMPOSSIBLE for him to add her to the ticket as VP, even if he were agreeable to doing so. Her allegations that she alone can bring her working class, high school educated whites to the table would make it IMPOSSIBLE for Barack to ultimately lead our country as President. If they were indeed to win together, the claim would be main that Barack is not president of ALL the people, but only of half the people. With Hilary representing the other half. They would effectively function as Co-Presidents.

Once Barack is elected he must be perceived as president of ALL the people...n­ot just people of color, or college educated people, or young people but ALL the people.

Isn't it ironic that Hillary Clinton's own aggressive, scorched earth campaign strategy now insures that she cannot run as either President or Vice President.

We did not ever intend to support the Hillary Clinton campaign and would like our donation returned if Barack does help her reduce her debt in any way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 05/10/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 68 fans permalink

You have it wrong....i­f, Obama becomes president and Hillary the veep, Bill would, indeed, become the first black president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/10/2008

rofl

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/10/2008

I agree with you 100%.

Besides, a lot of Obama's supporters, if they are like a lot of people today, some of which is facing foreclosure on their homes, made a grave SACRAFICE in donating to his campaign.

While Hillary was using her money to air negative propoganda against Obama (Saturday Night Live, etc. and her 3AM commercial crap, he was out campaigning trying to get accross to people his plans to make change which will help ALL people, not just certain groups of people.

She's lost a lot of respect of super delagates, because of her tactics against...­so unclass like, and her BASHING of, Obama, I do feel though, that if he has monies to throw back to Hillary to get her out of debt, it would be more appreciated if he gave back to his supporters who are POSSIBLY, facing foreclosure, heavy in debt, and are just in dire need of financial help in whatever area of their lives.

If they wanted to support Hillary they could have, but no, they chose him, and he should just dismiss that idea of paying off her BASHING DEBT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/10/2008
- reggieb I'm a Fan of reggieb 84 fans permalink

they can travel together to fundraisers promoting unity in the party and pay hillary's debts with the funds raised

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/10/2008
- JackNasty I'm a Fan of JackNasty 69 fans permalink
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So why aren't the Clintons' supporters paying Hillary's debts ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 102 fans permalink
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They pay her lip service. Exactly what she pays them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Why should they when Obama is going to pay them? Well, OK, it's not Obama who's paying but his online contributers, but effectively, it's his money now, and he can do what he likes with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/10/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Please read the article. It would be illegal for Obama to pay her debt.

They are talking about joint fundraisers etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/10/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 68 fans permalink

Good point. In fact, why doesn't Bill pay the 25 mill; he owes her that much for standing by him during the Monica incident.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/10/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Actually, he did.

Clinton loaned the campaign millions and millions.

And I think Bill has made up for Monica. My God that man must love his wife!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/10/2008
- ishok I'm a Fan of ishok 9 fans permalink

Will some responsible person please take the credit card from this woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Why take it away when the debts are underwritten by the Bank of Obama (BOO)? A BOO credit card says more about you than money ever can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/10/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 68 fans permalink

That is a truly racist remark; shame on you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/10/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 641 fans permalink
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was that a slur?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

This is the way you have to go after these ingrates who will try to use charges of racism as a tool. The Obama campaign has been using the scam for months, and the practice has filtered down to Wonder Boy's followers. I just wish the Clinton campaign would take these insects to task hard and fast every time these scabs use the tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/10/2008

Maybe people will start to see what I have known about Obama from the beginning.
He does things first class, with respect, and truly does want to change the way politics are conducted in this country.
Obama has no interest in 'kneecapping' Hillary, even after the Hillary campaign has tried numerous times to do it to him.
He is making an effort, more so than anyone else, to keep the party united, regardless of the Democratic outcome.
Its nothing new about him.

Its just something new, we haven't seen before in politics.

He understands and sees the BIG picture, both in the Democratic Race and world, globally.

Many of our policies have led to much of the world having 'unfavorable' views towards the US.
Most of those policies we never hear of, or are told about, until 50 years after the fact.

While I believe we do need to maintain a 'presence' in the Middle East, and other areas, getting us mired in open-ended missions, with no end strategy - needs to end ASAP.

We are not the biggest rooster in the henhouse, anymore.
That doesn't diminish America or Freedom.
It just means we need to keep a proper and not 'nationalistic' perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/10/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 68 fans permalink

I agree. Obama should be praised for his handling of the campaign. Unfortunately, Amerika still like its kowboys.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 05/10/2008

I donated money to Obama's campaign not Hillary's. I hope this doesnt happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Well, since it's not your money anymore, hope is about all you can do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 102 fans permalink
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Still trying to unload your lies, Parkhurst?

You know NONE of Obama's campaign contributions can go to Hillary. That's illegal. You've been told that many times by many people.

It's even spelled out in the article above.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 05/10/2008

Your money is safe. He isnt planning on giving it to Shrillary. He will probably do some joint fund-raisers, something like that. Ignore the Repugs like Parkhurst

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/10/2008
- Sean I'm a Fan of Sean permalink

Apparently people don't know how to read. If you donate your money to Barack Obama it cannot be used to pay off Hillary Clinton's campaign debt. That would be considered an illegal campaign contribution. All Barack Obama can do is appeal to democrats - including his supporters - to donate to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

My fellow Obama supporters need to stop worrying about their donations to Barack being spent on Hillary's debt - it's not going to happen as it would be against the law. The only way your money will end up in Hillary's coffers is if you specifically choose to donate to her campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/10/2008
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 80 fans permalink
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Presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Mc Cain
were flying to a debate.

Barack looked at Hillary, Chuckled and said, 'You know I could throw a
$1,000 bill out of the window right now and make somebody very happy.'

Hillary shrugged her shoulders and replied, 'I could throw ten $100
bills out of the window and make ten people very happy.'

John added, 'That being the case, I could throw one hundred $10 bills
out of the window and make a hundred people very happy.'

Hearing their exchange, the pilot rolled his eyes and said to his
copilot, 'Such big-shots back there. I could throw all three of them
out of the window and make 156 million people very happy.'

I'm voting for the Pilot

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/10/2008

but we're getting that tax relief check in the mail right? LOL. did he make us all happy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 05/10/2008
- TKI I'm a Fan of TKI 2 fans permalink

The Democratic Party beats up himself, saying it only makes him stronger to know his weaknesses going into the general elections; but, he forgets that he is doing it also in the presence of the Republican Party, the foe, who is all too eager to learn how to fight and defeat him and is doing all in his power to keep the spectacle going. Masochism is good for the soul; and, if you ask me, I would say he is looking forward to the day after, when he would be looking back and wondering why he lost. Déjà vu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

"the Republican Party, the foe" When did other Americans become your enemy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/10/2008
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It started the moment George W. Bush decided to wage an illegal and immoral war based on lies, and continued when the Republican led congress decided to aid and abet the crime; right around then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 05/10/2008

How can you find out if Hillary already repaid herself the original campaign loan of $5 million from subsequent fund-raising events before she lent her campaign another $6+ million? Also is she staying in the race without regard to the party to raise funds to repay her $6+ million loan?

Although perfectly legal since she is a creditor of the campaign, these are crucial issues that reflect on "the true nature of her intentions­.....Huff, we are counting on you to find out and let us know!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

So, Obama's going to take money that you could (most likely) ill afford to donate in the first place, and hand that over to a multimillionaire 60 year pol whom you (most likely) detest.

Some are trying to snow you by saying that, no, no, it isn't YOUR money he'll be giving her, it will be new money. You can figure it out for yourself though, that the only reason he can afford to give new money to her, is because he already has yours. No matter which way you slice it, your hard-earned cash, donated to his campaign in good faith, is being used to benefit her to the tune of $25,000,000.

Why didn't you just donate to Hillary's campaign in the first place and cut out the middle man?

Kinda sucks I guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 05/10/2008
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 102 fans permalink
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Still trying to unload your lies, Parkhurst?

You know NONE of Obama's campaign contributions can go to Hillary. That's illegal. You've been told that many times by many people.

It's even spelled out in the article above.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

Give me a break. You sound like Clinton, finessing the truth, sonny. You know it depends on what campaign contributions you're talking about - like what the definition of "is", is.

No matter which way you cut it, contributions from Obama's contributors will be funneled to Clinton. So, don't even try to TELL me anything, sport. You are misleading these good folks.

You are trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Many can ill afford to make a contribution, but do so because they believe in a cause. Now their hard earned cash is going to be routed to Clinton. They don't need you using the language of the used car salesman, to misdirect them.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 05/10/2008

Obama needs to go into the election with a party behind him, not a group pulled apart by an angry Clinton on a power trip. To do this he must appeal to the only thing she really cares about. Which of course is not her ideals, as they have nearly identical views on many subjects, but is money and power.
Just donate the money to the Clinton Charity Barack, she will get in line. (vague reference to pardons for sale)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 05/10/2008

Hillary doesn't need rewards; she needs to be reprimanded.

If Obama were so unwise as to actually help Hillary, all she would do is smile, grab the money, and continue to look for ways to undermine him. The fact that Obama won the nomination means Hillary will remain bitter, and later try to sabotage anything that Obama as President would attempt.

If there is a way for the Democratic leaders to create a new rule, whereby both Clintons are brought publicly for censure, at the Democratic convention, I feel that would offer some justice. The Clintons demonstrated a vicious spirit to the 2008 campaign (and I don't forget the past 16 years of their meanspirited self-indulgence as well).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 05/10/2008
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The Party cannot reprimand her in the middle of the fight, they must necessarily remain neutral, besides she has received numerous rebukes from individual party elders - if she decides to openly campaign against Obama after dropping out then she would be open to censure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Micro management is oppression!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 05/10/2008
- Parkhurst I'm a Fan of Parkhurst 5 fans permalink

FromConnecticut wrote:
"If there is a way for the Democratic leaders to create a new rule, whereby both Clintons are brought publicly for censure, at the Democratic convention,"
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You simply cannot be that dumb. You want to censure the woman who won half of the democratic electorate in the primaries. How do you think all those Clinton delegates and all the ordinary folks who voted for her are going to react? Do you really want a riot at the convention?

I am frequently stunned by the utter brainlessness of some of these posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/10/2008
- ReportThis I'm a Fan of ReportThis 7 fans permalink

Obama should offer to pay Hillary $1 million for every pound she loses between now and the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/10/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/10/2008
- ReportThis I'm a Fan of ReportThis 7 fans permalink

Tilt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 05/10/2008
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Operation Chaos is a complete failure ditto brain, and you can tell your master I said so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 05/10/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

Not necessary.­..the RUSHING...­.IS OVAH. Selazoids have a very short shelf life. ....Forget know no joy when active.

Again, LINCOLN: (U gotta LUV HIM) "....but you can't all the people all the time."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 05/10/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

Could you lease post a heads up re when the episode of INTERVENTION in which you are the subject will air? ? YOU CAN BEAT THIS, HONEST....­.we believe in yr potential.

The crack pipe is not your friend. Believe it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/10/2008
- kenlog I'm a Fan of kenlog 22 fans permalink
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http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

I usually have no problem with Hillary supporters. She is a bright and capable woman, and Presidential candidate.

In your case, however, I can't begin to imagine the pain your personal brand of stupid causes you.

Even your hair must hurt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 05/10/2008
- rzan I'm a Fan of rzan 6 fans permalink

Then you need to send her 100 bucks right now if you believe so much in her. She needs your financial support. Even 25 bucks will do. If a million of her faithful each gave her 25 bucks, she could pay off her debt and put 11.4 million back into her own bank account.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Kennedy said, It is not what you nation can do for you, it is what you can do for your nation. How many of you are willing to personally take money out of your account to rebuild schools, feed the homeless (and I don't mean enough for a tax deduction) and give until every American is economically equal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/10/2008

Many of us have done that and more! This is not a new concept :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

You are saying you have given to others beyond your means to survive to make sure all Americans are equal. These are the ideas liberals are spouting. I don't think so. liberals hold the money and say all should be equal. People cannot be equal until all resources are distrubted equally. So you all need to give up that money for the people who have less in the USA. People should not have excess until everyone has the same amount. Who is first?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/10/2008

Try to envision the difference between a fundraiser to bailout Clinton to unify the democratic party, and a fundraiser to bailout a group of Americas in distress to unify the democratic party. It's been a very divisive season. The democrats need something new to spring into action. Think of the music, the dance, the speeches, the democratic party leaders. Think of all the candidates on stage joining hands as they hit off the general election against McCain and the republicans. It's an idea worth talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

If the wealthy democrats would give money to the poor, that would unit the party. If the elitest democrats took that wealth and built inner city African American schools, that would unit teh party, but wealthy taxes stay in wealthy neighborhoods. How can the democrats say they are fighting for the inner city poor african americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 05/10/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

Actually, verbatim, he SAID "COUNTRY".­..NOT NATION. BUT, answer is, CLEARLY most of us....once we have a shot at restoring the underlying integrity of the the foundation the Founders, in their brilliance and nobility GESTATED AND DELIVERED.­.. with Obama leading...­.YES.

Cause until then....th­at kind of giving will be an excercise in masochism. Won't be long....an­d we all gotta become involved and pro active....­.but isn't that the default mode we have been deprived of for years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

You are personally willing to give up money to make sure all americans are equal? If you make 65,000 a year, you will downsize to a life style like middle class that make 30,000 a year and give 20,000 a year to the poor, or do you want to bank the money to make sure your offspring as an advantage in our nation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 05/10/2008
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