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On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in recent months.

"Historically after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particularly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. So, obviously, I would want to have a broad range of discussions with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about
the process and have her on the team moving forward."

Talking to reporters in front of a Mexican restaurant in Woodburn, Oregon, the Illinois Senator warned that such discussions are "premature right now. She's still actively running and we've still got business to do right here in Oregon and in other states."

The Clinton campaign dismissed out-of-hand any talk of Obama helping Clinton with her debts. "We are running a competitive primary race," said spokesman Phil Singer. "We have seen the dangers of declaring 'mission accomplished' before."

Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.

There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. He could, in addition, hold a joint fundraiser with the money
split between Clinton and Obama.

Strong opposition to helping Clinton, in the event that she withdraws from the contest, has emerged among Obama supporters who continue to voice intense anger at Clinton and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn. The opposition surfaced immediately after the Huffington Post ran stories
raising the subject.

At an Obama-run blog
for supporters, a number of contributors have argued that any effort to help Clinton pay off bills would be insupportable.

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"The read-between-the-lines statement that I am hearing is that he would be expected to use his campaign clout (which as far as I am concerned, means his ethics and integrity) to attach her debt consolidation efforts to his future fundraising efforts. Which means he WOULD be taking money from lobbyists - big time!!!!" wrote "TH" of California. "So yes, while he may not be selling us out by giving away our hard earned money directly to her, Obama would be selling out by using his new political clout to help pay off her debts. Memo to OBAMA: You do not need to sell one ounce of your soul to gain this nomination. NOT THIS TIME! Remember? NOT THIS TIME!!!"

"Ken" from Wagoner, Okla., wrote: "I am also reading Sen. Obama is considering Hillary for his VICE !!! I am wondering what has happened to Sen. Obama, has he gone BONKERS? I pray he has nothing to do with the Clinton's or their financial problems !!!"

There is deep animosity towards Clinton in the Obama camp, where many believe she has raised issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

In addition, Mark Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is seen as the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts - as much as $10 million by some estimates -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and

Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the
bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a Clinton-Obama pact.

On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
On Friday, Barack Obama publicly raised the possibility of helping Hillary Clinton pay off more than $25 million in debts, including the $11.42 million she loaned her own campaign to keep it afloat in...
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- ReportThis I'm a Fan of ReportThis 7 fans permalink

Obama should make Hillary an "exploding settlement offer" regarding her campaign indebtedness. Here's how it would work: If she drops out today, he will help Clinton pay off 100% of her current campaign debt. If she fails to drop out immediately, tomorrow the offer drops to 90%, the next day, 80%, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 05/10/2008

If she dropped out today Obama would be humiliated. Mostly because when Virginia votes on Tuesday, it would have Obama losing by 75% even after Hillary had dropped out. He would also lose Kentucky.

It would look extremely bad for Obama to lose when he was the only one left on the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/10/2008
- ReportThis I'm a Fan of ReportThis 7 fans permalink

If Obama is the only one left "on the race," that means he's won the nomination. You call that a loss?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 05/10/2008

NICE TRY HILLARY IS THE PATRIOT AND OBAMA IS TERRORIST ASSOCIATED!! NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS HILLARY GOING TO TAKE TO GIVE OVER AMERICA TO THE TERRORIST RELATED>>SEE US VETERAN DISPATCH december 2006! HILLARY ALL THE WAY>>>GO INDEPENDENT HILLARY IF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHEATS YOU WE WILL SUPPORT YOU!DONATE AT HILLARYCLINTON.COM HILLARY 2008 democratic or independent there is no second choice for us >>>HILLARY period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/10/2008

LOL - get this guy a drink or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 05/11/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

OK, U work for Microsoft, right? And are mistaking Hillary for YAHOO?

Seriously, U do not get everyone now gets she is am authentically sick person....and they are treating her as one??? This is like giving a derranged infant some form of her ratty little blanket to sooth her hysteria.

I trust him....but I sitll can not stand it as I posted here somewhere; nobody owes her anything......except maybe a year in a padded cell with some worlclass shrink. I wold feel OK about him using my donations for that/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/10/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 77 fans permalink
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We're trying desperately to hang onto our house and we're supposed to care about the fact that Hillary - a millionaire many times over - put a dent in her personal fortune? Poor baby only has . . . how many millions left?

You know - I would have voted for Hill if she had been the candidate - but I can't feel sorry for her because she doesn't have as many millions as she did when the campaign started.

She KNEW this was going to cost her going in. This is what is known as a "bad investment" -- leave it at that.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 05/10/2008

Don't worry it won't cost you a dime....Obama is going to help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

yeah, that is what i thought, you all want government to pay for everything, but when it comes to personal responsiblity you all want to play the victim!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 05/10/2008

Neocon, go away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 05/11/2008
- PFHarlock I'm a Fan of PFHarlock 4 fans permalink

I think a more appropriate headline on this piece is "Obama Suggests Offer Clinton Could Never Accept."

Although I'm sure he'd stand behind it, it's pretty obvious to me that this offer was purely political. Despite being bit on the passive-aggressive side, I think it's a brilliant means of driving in presumptive nominee Barack Obama's overwhelmingly dominant position (despite the anomalies of West Virgina and Kentucky) in what's left of this non-contest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/10/2008

It's hard to tell what's really going on because you can never trust what Obama says.

I'm sure we will hear some kind of "i didn't know " excuse soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Why doesn't Obama nad Ophra take their wealth and go down to a poor african American neighborhood and pay for their needs? Ophra will go to Africa and build a school and won't build on int eh USA. She must really hate Americans!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 05/10/2008
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Is that you Michael?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 05/10/2008

Do you even know how much money Hillary and Bill made patapsco99?
Obama has like 1/50th or less of their wealth.
Maybe you are for Hillary because she will sell pardons to feed the homeless?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/10/2008
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 77 fans permalink
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Give her a Cabinet level position. Put her in charge of Health and Human Services. Let her take on health care. Obama's health plan is nowhere near good enough.

And what about Shumer? Running around saying America can't afford a health care program. Someone shut him up please?.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

All you people in here with 5,000 plus in savings, I say we make a pledge, you go down to your local school and buy them supplies. Come on you can share the wealth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/10/2008
- ReportThis I'm a Fan of ReportThis 7 fans permalink

Is that in addition to the local real estate taxes I pay to support my local schools????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Thats right, because we cannot complain about the condition of our schools and nation until all Americans are equal. A liberal idea is if you make more money you should pay more money. It doesn't matter how much debt you have or can you feed your family. Obama wants to tax people with higher incomes more money. How does he know they can afford to feed their family?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

We are headed for a recession, why does Obama want to pay for the health care of 12 million illegals. Do you think a citizen will not be sceen because of over population? It is a possiblity. I would belive and I say I, if there is a possiblity to overload our health care system moe than it already is, I can imagine health care will get worse with universal health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/10/2008

NEO-CON ALERT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 05/11/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Can anyone ask him what his definition of a terrorist is? because I don't think i want to hang with one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 05/10/2008

I can't stopping thinking about this as a point for conversation. Here's a chance for the democrats to show they are the party of change. How about this as an alternative to kick off party unity at the close of the primary season: All 7 or 8 democratic candidates should agree to hold a joint fundraiser at the end of the last held primary. For what? To show their party unity and support for their nominee. What would the money be for? To raise money to help suffering Americans behind in their mortgages, to raise money for the people who can't wait for universal health care to come into play, to raise money for schools in need of better textbooks or art supplies. Of course not everyone would be helped. But enough would to make a point. What a great way to kick off the general election and show just how much the democratic party wants to represent the American people. We have a terrible habit in this country of bailing out the wealthy and letting everyone else sink or swim. That habit can easily be broken this new season. And what a great chance to contrast the democratic party with the republican party, whose members have amassed power, profits and bailouts at the people's expense under Bush. Who knows, maybe some republicans, I hope, would contribute to the pot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

Hey, does universal health care include the illegals within the USA too, because the 47 million Obama includes in his figure for people not covered included the 12 million illegals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/10/2008
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Now THAT is an idea with vision. I like it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/10/2008
- patapsco99 I'm a Fan of patapsco99 6 fans permalink

How do you get more money for a school system without rasing taxes? It is great to have dreams, I think every American that has a disposable income should go to their local school, ask what books or supplies do they need and go buy it for them, instead of buying a Starbucks coffee, or traveling to Europe, We really don't need SUVs, so the saved gas money should go to buy supplies. Get the drift!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 05/10/2008
- aliceblue I'm a Fan of aliceblue 2 fans permalink

Here 'change' is defined as manufacturing
a non-issue.

'Help' is defined as 'Oprah will host the Left
Coast fundraiser for Hillary while Bloomberg
hosts the East .'

The Obamas will be photographed with the
Clintons.

Hill will pass the plate.

David Plouffe may look seventeen and a half
but he's a brilliant organizer. Plouffe is
NOT GOING TO VIOLATE FEC REGULATIONS
by transferring campaign contributions to
Clinton's campaign. FEC regulations are
very stiff, you can get huge fines and even
criminal penalties.

In other words, not a single penny will be
given to Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/10/2008

Wow. The Huff really wants to end this.

I hate to break it to you all but Obam still has to get creamed, and humiliated by Hillary in the West Virgina and Kentucky primaries before the super delagates can hand him the nomination.

Then he can smile and pretend like he won the nomination and go on to pretend like he has a chance to even win a single state in the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 05/10/2008

Agreed. It looks like the DNC, Pelosi and the Elite are ready to throw the democratic election away in November.

There is no way Obama is going to win in November, he has become more polarizing than Hillary ever was.

Well, we've survived 8 years of Bush so I'm sure we can handle 4 years of McCain.

Anything would be better than Obama which would be like voting for another Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 05/10/2008

I see you're using typical neo-con tactics to try to scare people again.

NOTICE: I'm a true conservative Republican. The McCain supporters want Hillary to win because she has so much more baggage that McCain can use against her in the general election. Period. Go away, McCain-lover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 05/11/2008

Absoultely right. He can't win on pledged delegates, yet, he is planning a VICTORY PARTY before the "magic number" is reached. He is fortunate enough that anyone would consider allowing him buy Hillary's delegates. I, for one, hope she refuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/10/2008
- aliceblue I'm a Fan of aliceblue 2 fans permalink

Neither West Virginia nor Kentucky are battleground
states. Oregon is a battleground state.

Ever spent a summer in Appalachia?

West Virginia has been in a state of economic
depression since the founding of Jamestown.

Like Hillary said, uneducated whites are her
constituency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 05/10/2008

LOL...spent all my summers (and winters) in Appalachia except those i spent in the military before it became fashionable to "support the troops". I know there is a point in your remark, BUT I may be either too white, too dumb, or too able to spell and write complete sentences to find it. West Virginia did not exist for two hundred fifty-six years after the founding of Jamestown so the point of that inaccurate economic depression remark also escapes this hillbilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 05/12/2008
- JackNasty I'm a Fan of JackNasty 78 fans permalink
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Hilary can pay her own damned bills. Who else gets to spend $25 million more than she has?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/10/2008
- Wanjiru I'm a Fan of Wanjiru 13 fans permalink
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Dear Senator Obama,

I, for one, am beyond OUTRAGED to hear that this is even a possibility!

You are going to pay off HRC's debt???

THIS IS NOT WHY I DONATED MONEY TO YOUR CAMPAIGN, SIR!!

This Democratic nomination rollercoaster has been almost unbearable, but THIS HERE is the LIMIT!

Senator Obama, you are taking the "Mr. NiceGuy" thing TOO FAR; do not, under ANY circumstances, use the money donated to your campaign by your loyal supporters, to pay off HRC's debt!

She has her own supporters, LET THEM BAIL HER OUT!

This is PREPOSTEROUS!


Truly vexed,

Wanji

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/10/2008
- poco767 I'm a Fan of poco767 6 fans permalink

Above in the article you have not read is the following quote.
"Obama cannot under federal law assume direct responsibility for Clinton's debts because that would amount to an illegal contribution, far above contribution limits.
There are, however, a number of other alternatives. Obama could, for example, send out a solicitation in Clinton's behalf to his own donors and to other donor lists, asking for contributions to be directed to her campaign. "

If you are still indignant then rant away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/10/2008

Obama has broken and bended the rules through out this whole selection process. I am sure he will figure a way out to help Hillary if he really wants to.

I mean if he can bus people from Chicago to participate and pretend they are from Iowa in order to participate in the Iowa Caucuses..........or what about how he was able to get the Indiana Mayor to bus ONLY pro-Obama students to go vote while school is still in session. I'm sure he can find a way around the latest loophole to help Clinton.

Obama is as crooked as they come!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/10/2008

You, for one, should send your "letter" to one of Barry's Obamabots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/10/2008

Hey if you Donated any money to that Nimrod that is your fault.

Just be glad he didn't spend it on hookers like most democrats. Maybe Obama is a new kind of democrat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/10/2008
- aliceblue I'm a Fan of aliceblue 2 fans permalink

Federal law prohibits Obama from donating
to Hill's campaign.

Learn to read critically. Edsall is manufacturing
a flap.

Too bad because I really like some of his stuff.

I've never seen as many great writers in one
place as there are on Huffington Post.

Everybody kept telling me to go to Huff Post
but I kept posting to a Shakespeare newsgroup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/10/2008
- mickyx65it I'm a Fan of mickyx65it 5 fans permalink

Why would any Obama supporter par Mark Penn 10 million dollars? I just don't see how is that acceptable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/10/2008
- mickyx65it I'm a Fan of mickyx65it 5 fans permalink

Hillary foolishly spent that money. No body else spent it. She earned 110 million in 7 years. Let her pay for her foolish expenses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 05/10/2008
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