Secretary Rice Blames Iran, Syria For Lebanon Violence

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MATTHEW LEE | May 9, 2008 05:37 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration accused Iran and Syria on Friday of fueling ongoing violence in Lebanon by inciting members of the radical Shiite Hezbollah movement to take up arms against the country's western-backed government.

As Hezbollah militants seized control of large parts of Beirut, the administration denounced the show of force, which it said was being supported by Iranian and Syrian elements. The U.S. also reaffirmed its support for Prime Minister Fuad Saniora's shaky coalition and vowed to hold those responsible accountable.

"Backed by Syria and Iran, Hezbollah and its allies are killing and injuring innocent citizens and undermining the legitimate authority of the Lebanese government and the institutions of the Lebanese state," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a statement.

"Seeking to protect their state within a state, Hezbollah has exploited its allies and demonstrated its contempt for its fellow Lebanese," she said. "We will stand by the Lebanese government and the peaceful citizens of Lebanon through the crisis and provide the support they need to weather this storm."

Rice spoke by phone with Saniora, United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon and the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and France about the situation. The White House said the United States was talking "with other governments in the region and with the U.N. Security Council about measures that must be taken to hold those responsible for the violence in Beirut accountable."

"Hezbollah's relationship with Iran and Syria, as well as its history of international terrorism and provision of lethal support and training to Iraqi-based extremist groups, demonstrates the threat it poses to international peace and security," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.

At the State Department, spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States had evidence that Iran and Syria, in particular, were beginning to take an active role in encouraging the three-days violence that has killed at least 14 people and wounded 20 since it began.

"It is becoming more apparent now that the linkages that we know exist and are ongoing between Hezbollah and Syria and Iran are starting to manifest themselves in the current crisis," he said. "At the beginning we didn't see it, but we are now."

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Specifically, McCormack said U.S. officials were seeing "groups and individuals that are known associates and proxies of Syria ... starting to engage. Groups that are linked to Syria and that are in Lebanon right now are taking a much more active roll in fanning the flames and violence and attacks that are destabilizing the political situation."

A senior State Department official later identified three former pro-Syrian government ministers as "fully owned subsidiaries of Syria" who had taken to the airwaves Friday in support of Hezbollah. "These sorts of people don't get involved unless they have been told to do so," the official told reporters.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the delicacy of the situation in Beirut, added that U.S. analysts did not believe Hezbollah would have started the fight without "some kind of green light from Iran."

The United States has grown increasingly concerned about the violence _ Lebanon's worst sectarian fighting since the 1975-1990 civil war _ as it has unfolded and Hezbollah has taken control of key parts of Beirut from Sunnis loyal to the Saniora's government, which has been wracked by a long-running political deadlock.

Since Israel fought a monthlong war with Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon in 2006, Washington has given the Lebanese government $1.3 billion in aid, including $400 million in training and equipment for the army and police forces.

On Friday, though, officials said they were not considering any major changes to that package and would focus instead on political and diplomatic support. They praised Saniora's government, as well as the army, which has stayed out of the fighting, for their professionalism and commitment to the Lebanese people.

"The army is acting in a professional manner," McCormack said. "We believe it is an effective professional force that is working on behalf on this government and on behalf of the Lebanese people. We think that the government is exercising sound judgment."

The army has pledged to keep the peace but not take sides in the long deadlock _ which pits Shiite Hezbollah and a few allies including some Christian groups, against the U.S.-backed government, which includes Christian and Sunni Muslims.

The State Department is considering how to protect an estimated 50,000 U.S. citizens in Beirut if conditions worsen, although it is assumed that many would not choose to leave because they hold dual nationality and have families in Lebanon.

The senior State Department official said there was no decision on what advice to offer Americans there, or about how to help any who choose to leave since the Beirut airport and main seaports are virtually shut down.

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Associated Press writer Desmond Butler contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration accused Iran and Syria on Friday of fueling ongoing violence in Lebanon by inciting members of the radical Shiite Hezbollah movement to take up arms against ...
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration accused Iran and Syria on Friday of fueling ongoing violence in Lebanon by inciting members of the radical Shiite Hezbollah movement to take up arms against ...
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- realtalk I'm a Fan of realtalk 13 fans permalink

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SO OBAMA VOTERS GET OUT AND VOTE, NO MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS, OBAMA NEEDS ALL YOUR VOTES, THIS RACE IS NOT OVER UNTIL ALL THE STATES HAVE VOTED!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/09/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 24 fans permalink
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Umm.. what does this have to do with the article?

I think it's time for Obama supporters to relax a bit and enjoy the fact that he has basically locked it up. The messages in all capital letters posted on topics not related to the Democratic primaries are starting to seem silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 05/09/2008

Please stay on topic or get lost and out of this thread. I support Obama, but this is not the thread for your comments!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 05/09/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

WHERE ARE MY

Ear plugs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 05/09/2008
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 390 fans permalink
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Take your finger off the Caps Lock key and chill out. The race will be thus: Clinton will win West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico, probably by a lot. Obama will win Oregon, Montana and So. Dakota, a wash. Even if she got all the delegates in those three places, and got all the delegates in Florida and Michigan, which she won't, she won't overtake him.

The popular vote, as if it matters, is the same thing. She cannot make up the 700,000 plus deficit even if she got Florida and Michigan counted. Only her supporters think there is a chance. They are dreaming and cannot accept reality. The fundraising differential is enormous. She is loaning her campaign more money because she can't get new donors. Obama is loaded and most of his contributors are not close to maxing out.

There is NO way she can overtake Obama in elected delegates, even with Florida and Michigan. Obama has many other super delegates who will come out in the next two weeks, especially if Hillary goes negative. He already has surpassed her in the superdelegate count and will increase that margin.

Do the math, it's not that hard. Both Chuck Todd of MSNBC and John King of CNN have done thorough analyses of this. No. Carolina and Indiana were her last gasps, but the reality is that this race was over in February when Obama swept Virginia, Maryland and Wash. DC by large margins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 05/10/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

And the world blames bush, and you rice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/09/2008
- llozano I'm a Fan of llozano 5 fans permalink

I wonder if the war in Iraq has anything to do with all the instability in the middle east? Hmm...just a thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/09/2008

Or if the bombing and invasion of Lebanon by Israel in '06 has anything to do with it.... Hmmm just another thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/09/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 24 fans permalink
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The war in Iraq is a big part of the current instability in the Middle East. But it would be totally naive and historically inaccurate to think that without that war, the middle East would be stable.

What is going on in Lebanon today is actually surprisingly removed from the Iraq situation. The Christians and the Muslims of Lebanon had a civil war from 1975 to 1990 that started before the Iranian revolution (1979) and before the Israeli invasion (1982) that killed over 100,000 Lebanese and displaced hundreds of thousands more.

It is also worth pointing out that the very first US soldier to die abroad, in the history of the US, was in the Middle East fighting Pirates of the Barbary Coast near what is now Lybia. That predates the founding of Israel (many people's favorite thing to blame on ME instability) and the discovery of ME Oil (the more likely, but still incomplete reason, for the continuing instability).

Hell, instability in the Middle East predates Muhammad, Jesus, and Moses.

Personally, I think it is somewhat related to geography. Egypt, Israel, Lebanon and Syria sit at the land bridge between Africa, Asia, and Europe. It's been a busy, lucrative, long fought after chunk of real estate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/09/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 24 fans permalink
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The end of that second paragraph may read a bit funny. My point was that Lebanese, all on their own, had a civil war in which over 100,000 people were killed.

The Iranian revolution (1980) and the Israeli involvement (1982) did not cause that conflict nor did they cause that number of deaths.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 05/09/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 54 fans permalink

BLAME BLAME BLAME. Condi Rice has not done one positive thing or made one friend in the mideast. in all her years..and why are we listening to her. I know we don't believe her but now she is bent on having someone else take the blame for her ineptitude. Doesn't diminsh the tragedy in Lebanon, however.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/09/2008
- Truthmeter I'm a Fan of Truthmeter 2 fans permalink

I wish She would of ran for President, she's the only one with an tremendous resume. Maybe McCain will choose her for V.P. The watch all those female Clinton supporters move over and some of the black supporters which the democratic party has used for so many years and have finally woken up after all these years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/09/2008

She seems to have a resume of positions, but no accomplishments - at least since hooking up with W. She has been accused by reputable people of being asleep at the switch before 9/11, and exactly what has her tenure at State accomplished?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/09/2008

You're kidding, of course-aren't you-or are you that delusional? A " house of cards" resume,at best! Nat'l security advisor during 9-11! No clue about Bin Laden's plans! Zero accomplishments as Sec of State! Well-she DOES play a mean piano!I pray every day McSame picks this un-qualified fraud-those southern racists will just Love her-NOT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/09/2008
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 390 fans permalink
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Another illiterate Republican cretin. Tell me, how does it feel to have Rush Limbaugh do your thinking for you? It makes it easier to just drink your beer and pass gas, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 05/10/2008
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Since when is a tremendous resume of failure after failure considered an asset in a Presidential candidate? Besides 2000 and 2004, I mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 05/10/2008
- 01202009 I'm a Fan of 01202009 53 fans permalink
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Secretary Ricecakes hasn't been able to tell the truth since she went down on George Bush. Who cares what she thinks or says?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/09/2008
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I don't have a link, but Google something like 'vanity fair condoleezza rice bush husband'. Add in that she's never been married,and we have the Freudian slip for the ages!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 05/10/2008
- BOBONDE I'm a Fan of BOBONDE 4 fans permalink

ANOTHER FAILURE FOR SLEEZA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/09/2008
- dgscol I'm a Fan of dgscol 4 fans permalink
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There is nothing like rocket propelled grenades to put down a perimeter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/09/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 330 fans permalink
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US-airforce-bombs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/09/2008
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I remember Lebanon as the Las Vegas, Monte Carlo, Cannes of the East (40 years ago); What happened?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/09/2008
- jeffepops I'm a Fan of jeffepops 7 fans permalink

Jordan kicked out the PLO in 1970 ("Black September"). The PLO moved to Lebanon, and established its own "state within a state", using southern Lebanon as a launching ground for terrorist attacks (a fact even Noam Chomsky agrees with). Political imbalance brought on by the increased Islamic fundamentalism and Soviet/left insurgencies led to the Lebanese Civil War in 1975. Over 100,000 people died. Israel invaded in 1982, following increased attacks originating in southern Lebanon. About 20,000 more people died...

Not much has changed since Israel left; Syria and Iran are big players now. People continue to kill each other; Israel has responded to attacks with strong military retaliation. Hezbollah, a fundamentalist religious organization with its own army, now appears to have overrun the Lebanese government forces. Time to start passing out the burkas and banning most remaining freedoms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 05/09/2008

Glad to hear that at least one person got the history of Lebanon right, vis-a-vis, the PLO.

Yopu forgot to mention the 270 terrorist attacks launched by the PLO against Israel from July 1981 to June 1982: 29 Israelis died and 300 were injured.

For Arab residents of S. Lebanon, PLO rule was a nightmare. After King Hussein expelled them from Jordan in 1970, the PLO seized whole areas of the country, where it brutalized the population and usurped Lebanese government authority.

On October 14, 1976, Lebanese Ambassador Edward Ghorra told the UN General Assembly that “Palestinian elements ..resorted to kidnapping Lebanese...holding them prisoners, questioning them, and even sometimes killing them.” Countless Lebanese told harrowing tales of rape, mutilation and murders committed by PLO forces.

When the IDF drove the PLO out of Damour in June 1982, Prime Minister Menachem Begin announced that the town's Christian residents could come home and rebuild. Returning villagers found their former homes littered with spray-painted Palestinian nationalist slogans, Fatah literature and posters of Yasir Arafat. They told Shipler how happy they were that Israel had liberated them.

In 1985, Israel totally withdrew from Lebanon. But Hezbollah remains. Hezbollah is trained and funded by Iran. As many of you seem to have forgotten or ignored is that, before 9/11, Hezbollah had killed more Americans than all other terrorist groups combined, including 241 murdered on Oct 23, 1983 in Beirut.

Yet, I don't hear anyone condemning them. Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 05/09/2008
- dgscol I'm a Fan of dgscol 4 fans permalink
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Yes, and what might help to speed things along is the sale of armaments for defensive purposes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 05/09/2008
- dgscol I'm a Fan of dgscol 4 fans permalink
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What we need to do is to let these people sort their problems out, not interfere.
I am confident that they will find agreement - it is just a matter of time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 05/09/2008
- dgscol I'm a Fan of dgscol 4 fans permalink
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Yes, they all believe in God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 05/09/2008
- Henk I'm a Fan of Henk 26 fans permalink
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If we'd followed Jimmy Carter's energy recomendations back in the late seventies we could do this, but unfortunately we're dependant upon the oil in the region. The oil producing countries, Saudi Arabia cheif amoung them, are nasty regimes that supress the populace and create resentment that boils over into all the other nations in the region, add the animosity toward Israel, some deserved some not, and you have a region in turmoil. We need the oil, its easier to manipulate unstable populations so we stir the pot. Its a win win for the Oil men, and women, in the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/09/2008

Really? Based on what? Pigs flying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 05/09/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 146 fans permalink

You know. we COULD give it a try. See what happens. Could it be any worse than having the USA and Israel meddle in their internal affairs?

I for one would give it a shot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/10/2008
- Roxanna I'm a Fan of Roxanna 34 fans permalink

This is one time where the US and all the ones up at the top including Rice can Blame themselves!
They have caused nothing but great instability to that entire region there by their insistence of occupying Iraq, a country that does not want them..

They have the potential to tally destabilize that region... Do they care... I doubt it? The world is less save then ever because of them./

Looks like Americans wants to learn the hard way, just like German....Peace does not come through occupation or war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 05/09/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 150 fans permalink

I read on the news that the U.S. backed government of Lebanon had attacked a Shia group.

It is also often on the news that the U.S. backed government in Iraq has attacked a rival Shia group.

Now, Sec. Rice says that it is the fault of Iran and Syria that the U.S. backed forces have attacked the Shia groups in the two mentioned countries.

I think my head is spinning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/09/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 330 fans permalink
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No, you are right. the USA initiated this sh*t AGAIN. Please read:

http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/breaking_news/2007/05/24/hersh.shtml

Cheney/Bandar/Elliot Abrams Funded Terrorist Group Now At War in Lebanon

MAY 24, (LPAC)--In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, May 22, New Yorker magazine investigative journalist Seymour Hersh repeated charges he published in that magazine in March, that the Bush Administration has been working with Saudi Arabia to arm Sunni fundamentalist cells, to fight Hezbollah. The recent explosion of violence in northern Lebanon between the Lebanese Army and the previously little-known group Fatah al-Islam, is but the latest example of this rotten collusion, Hersh charged.

Hersh was interviewed by CNN's Hala Gorani. Excerpts follow:

How to know a member of the Bush-administration is lying: He / she opens his / her mouth and starts moving his / her lips...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 05/09/2008
- pkafin I'm a Fan of pkafin 24 fans permalink
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"Cheney/Bandar/Elliot Abrams Funded Terrorist Group Now At War in Lebanon"

A Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew. At least it's a well rounded and religiously balanced cadre of warmongers.

Sigh... No doubt that the Bush folks haven't helped this situation. But it would be ridiculous to dismiss the actions of the Iranians and the Syrians in all of this. Hezbullah is quite open about from whom they receive their support and training and marching orders.

Seems like there's plenty of blame to go around on this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/09/2008
- Jason357 I'm a Fan of Jason357 8 fans permalink

Uh, Lebanon was doing quite well until Israel destroyed the infrastructure with Made-in-USA bombs and Munitions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 05/09/2008
- jeffepops I'm a Fan of jeffepops 7 fans permalink

I guess you don't read much history. The Lebanese had a civil war in the mid-70's that pretty much destroyed its democratic "infrastructure"; it has never recovered.

But go ahead, blame Israel. Is the easy path for the weak-minded.

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"democratic "infrastructure" - jeffepops

Maybe read the post your responding to, before you try and impress us with such intellect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/09/2008
- aristippe I'm a Fan of aristippe 13 fans permalink

Hezbollah is bad news for the people of lebanon. The U.S. is not responsible for this. Why must liberals always treat every threat with kid gloves while disparaging the U.S. and Israel. It's as if the rest of the world can do no wrong and the U.S. must be blamed for everything. If the world is going to shit you should at least accept that there is enough blame to go around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 05/09/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 330 fans permalink
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Hezbollah first and foremost is a political party, which was IN THE GOVERNMENT in Lebanon, after they rightfully won their seats in the parliament and, in the government. Fuad Siniora drew them out of government, because he - a christian PM - wouldn't want to cooperate with a muslim-coalition-partner (after US-reigned in and forced him to to alienate Hezbollah).

Yes, Hezbollah has a milltia. But every other political party has a militia too in Lebanon. And, yes, Hesbollah represents the MAJORITY of people in Lebanon. But what what would a majority in a country have to do with democrathy - after US-standards? A party is only ALLOWED to win an election in the Middle East, if they are pro-America. If the majority in a country should NOT be pro-America - well, then the USA will stir the sh*t as long as the country lies in complete shambles. Examples: Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Haiti, Pakistan (almost) etc, etc.

Fuad Siniora, the Prime Minister of Lebanon, reigns without democratic authorisation, actually, but only, because he drove Hezbollah from power - after he was armwrestled by the USA, to do so, to keep "islamistic" (read: democratic) Hezbollah from power.

Siniora is AS MUCH a US-minion in Lebanon, as al-Maliki is a US-minion in IRAQ. They are birds of the same feather. And the USA is the puppetmaster in the background, who pulls the strings and makes them move.

The USA are the rogue state. And no one else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/09/2008
- dotmafia I'm a Fan of dotmafia 45 fans permalink
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The USA is a rogue, outlaw and FAILED state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/09/2008
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I agree with your comment but Faud Sinoria is a Sunni Muslim. Also, There are christian factions on both sides of this turmoil.

One side doesn't want the influence of the U.S. and Israel and the other does. Reminds me of that puppet MAHMOUD ABBAS. In addition, Seymour Hersh was right when he said that the U.S. is actually arming the government in lebanon in order to break ties with Hezbullah, when many lebanese people are in strong support of Hezbullah.

The U.S.'s attempt to install puppet regimes in the region for the sake of Israel, such as in Palestine and Lebanon, seems to be backfiring.

It's time to abandon Israel...But they own us, that's another story...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/09/2008
- landmine I'm a Fan of landmine 4 fans permalink

aristippe,
The USA has a military presence in 145 countries of the world. I'll let you google for how many military bases in other countries. We replace or influence the replacement of governments at will.
We manipulate their economies. We help train countries to repress their own people.
We are the new Roman Empire.
You expect love?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/09/2008
- aristippe I'm a Fan of aristippe 13 fans permalink

Rome did a lot of wonderful things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/09/2008
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