US Makes Changes To Cremations For Slain Troops

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First Posted: 05- 9-08 10:20 PM   |   Updated: 05-17-08 05:12 AM

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The Pentagon is recommending changes in the handling of troops' remains, after it was revealed that a crematorium contracted by the military handles both human and animal cremations.

A military official said there have been no instances or charges that human and pet remains were mixed. But officials are now recommending that troops' remains be incinerated only at facilities that are dedicated entirely to humans, in order to avoid any appearance of a problem. Or, officials said, families can opt to have a relative's remains sent to a local funeral home for cremation, which would be paid for by the military.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates believed the earlier situation was "insensitive and entirely inappropriate for the dignified treatment of our fallen," said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell.

"Our heroes deserve to be better treated than that," Morrell said, adding that a sign at one of the crematoriums noted that it also does pet cremations. He said Gates offered an apology to military families for the insensitivity.

Morrell said there is "absolutely no evidence whatsoever at this point that any human remains were at all ever mistreated, or ever not cremated where they were supposed to be cremated. That said, the secretary believes that is it inappropriate, even if permissible under the rules and regulations, to cremate our fallen, our heroes, in a facility that also cremates pets."

The Dover Air Force Base Port Mortuary, where all troops' remains arrive from the battlefield, does not have its own crematorium, so it contracts with two funeral homes for the cremations: Torbert Funeral Chapel and Pippens Funeral Home.

Pippens' crematorium is located at the funeral home and is used only for human remains, while Torbert's has incinerators for both human and animal remains.

While most facilities don't advertise the fact that they handle both human and animal remains, there is a sign near the Torbert crematory advertising the "Friends Forever Pet Cremation Service."

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Officials said there are three incinerators at the Torbert facility, and two are used for humans, while one is used for pets. The human and pet facilities are separated by about 20 feet.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank Klotz, Air Force staff director, told Pentagon reporters that it is not uncommon for crematoriums to provide both services.

Klotz said the issue came to light Friday when an officer who works in the Pentagon went to Dover to pay respects to a fallen comrade who was being cremated. The soldier noticed the pet cremations sign, and was concerned about the fact that the facility handled both human and animal remains.

The officer alerted senior officials at the Pentagon, who notified Capitol Hill and quickly pulled together the policy changes. Arizona Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, sent a letter to Gates calling the report "very disturbing."

Bill Torbert, president of Torbert Funeral Chapel, said a representative from Dover Air Force Base visited a crematory run by his company earlier this week, but was satisfied there was nothing amiss.

Torbert said the human and pet crematories are in adjoining buildings on the same property but have separate entrances. A sign advertising pet cremation services is in front of the Friends Forever office, but there are no signs on the building housing the human crematory facilities, which Torbert said are not used for cremation of pets.

"We do a lot of work with the military," he said. "We service them very well."

Gates has directed David Chu, the undersecretary of defense for personnel, to conduct a review of Defense Department policies and practices governing the cremation and handling of remains of service members.

To date, Dover's port mortuary has processed 4,608 remains, but the Pentagon was not immediately able to say how many of those were cremations, and how many were handled by either Pippens or Torbert rather than service members' hometown facilities. Lt. Chris Sukach, spokeswoman for the Dover base, had no immediate comment and referred questions to Pentagon officials.

Klotz said the military has used the two Delaware facilities since about 2001, and neither one, on its own, can meet the Pentagon's needs in the time required. He said he plans to go to Dover on Saturday to speak with officials about the matter.

The Pentagon is recommending changes in the handling of troops' remains, after it was revealed that a crematorium contracted by the military handles both human and animal cremations. A military offic...
The Pentagon is recommending changes in the handling of troops' remains, after it was revealed that a crematorium contracted by the military handles both human and animal cremations. A military offic...
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- ramal I'm a Fan of ramal 70 fans permalink
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Is anyone surprised? Like lambs to the slaughter they keep enlisting. Sad very, very sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 05/10/2008

Excatly.
Here lies youth.
Survived by the greater generation, who failed to prevent this needless sacrifice.
In the name of oil, land, security, and God.


--
Meanwhile, Mission:Liberation continues (not from of strife or torture, but from unwestern values).
"We will be greeted as liberators." -J.S.McCain..
"We are killing them." -G.W.Bush.
--
And the war machine keeps grinding...

Economy going down? -- troops going up.
Fewer graduates? -- more troops.
Eliminate sex-ed and contraception? -- accentuate the rising rewnewal rates of troops.
The carot of immigration, and the whip of deportation? -- import more troops.
Lockup drug users without addressing abundant availibility? -- unleash more inebriated troops.
Greater Incarceration than all the rest of the planet combined? -- dito for the military budget.
From record home ownership to record home foreclosures, in record time? -- you know the tune.

Too many troops? -- more war, less regulation (environment, trade, civil liberties, you name it).

It's the marching of the claw-hammers (ala Roger Waters) -- a continuing cycle of constructi­on/destruc­tion.
Each pendulum shift, just a new foot forward.
Even Bastille Day just brought new faces to the baskets.
We march on, towards the gates of Hell, and beyond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/10/2008
- Faxus I'm a Fan of Faxus 12 fans permalink
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When I enlisted, I was 18 and not thinking about stuff like Viet Nam or getting killed or what would happen to my ashes. I just wanted to see the world and get away from home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 05/10/2008
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Hey HuffPo, can't you see that this a diversionary tactic by the Pentagon??? They make this non-issue an issue and feed it to you, you dutifully feed upon it, then their propoganda campaign in the media over the Iraq was goes uncovered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 05/10/2008
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Meh, so what.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 05/10/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 62 fans permalink

I bet the owvers of the crematoriams are big republican donators to have won the contract...which probably was a no bid contract. That would be the typical modus operandi of this administration's handling of EVERYTHING related to this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 05/10/2008
- DrDemon I'm a Fan of DrDemon 7 fans permalink
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ok NEXTTTTTTTT. Is this Fido or Johhny?

Go --> Fight in a dreamed-up war --> get killed --> return home --> get cremated with dogs --> after 7 years later & over 4000 dead --> change policy.

Absolutely fuckin pathetic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/10/2008
- Faxus I'm a Fan of Faxus 12 fans permalink
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And typical of this Bush presidency. God only knows what we will discover after he's gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/10/2008
- craneman I'm a Fan of craneman 4 fans permalink

It makes one wonder if anyone in this administration ever thought about having Halliburton Firing the ovens at Bergen-Belsen and outsoursing the cremations to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 05/10/2008

"Pets" what an euphemism! There are 1000s of dogs running around, scrounging on garbage and the human remains of those killed by us and the insurgents. This is causing a huge explosion in the stray dog population. They're the ones that are rounded up, and roasted.

Pets indeed. That makes it more palpable for "pet" lovers in the West, but its straight animal control not fluffy getting a nice ceremony, funeral, and then cremated.

Wake up America! Don't let Orwell turn your entire brain to mush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/10/2008
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First of all, these people getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan are not heroes. This administration tries to paint them as all being heroes which, first of all, demeans the real heroes. Secondly, it keeps calling them heroes as if their deaths really menat something and that this administration, and the public at large really cared for the sacrifice of their lives, all of whose deaths were preventable. It is more than ironic that their remains would be cremated at a facility for animals which is how der shrub and his gang of evil doers really sees them. What these people really are is cannon fodder. Their families have only two possible perspectives. One, that their family member was sacrificed for a grand and glorious endeavor or second, that their family members life was squandered for nothing. While it is true this is an all voluntary military we have, these people did not join, nor could they expect, that their country would use them so poorly. This was a war predicated on lies and the People are still not incensed enough to demand that the war criminals in this administration be broght to justice. Maybe some other country will, but more than likely it will never happen here. Der shrub is just as bad as Milosevich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 05/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 82 fans permalink
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The title "heroes" is irrespective of how Bu$hco really feels about the cannon fodder it has made essentially expendable. It's a patriotic dodge to cover its own crimes. I kinda feel sorry for 'em being brutalized for Bu$hco's greed. That doesn't mean the soldiers are incapable of being heroes; it's just the use of the term has nothing really to do with their actual service. This is symbolism and it fills a utilitarian function -- distracting attention from Bu$hco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 05/10/2008

I hate how this Administration in an another Orwellian twist has redefined Fodder to be Heros.

It not only demeans real heroes, it also demeans fodder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 05/10/2008
- xargaw I'm a Fan of xargaw 32 fans permalink

My spouse and I plan to have our ashes and that of our beloved dog all in the same urn. That is our choice. However, that is certainly different than being cremated with any other stranger animal or other person. This is a simple matter of respect. Once again, the Bush Administration fails the test. They have no respect for the troops or their families. They are simply a means to Bush/Cheney ends. These people have no soul and are incapable of the tenets of humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 05/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 82 fans permalink
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No, they don't have respect. It's part of their greedy MO. It's all about them and their profit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 05/10/2008
- Faxus I'm a Fan of Faxus 12 fans permalink
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"The Ashes of a A Stranger" Sounds like a Lifetime Movie of the week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 05/10/2008
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So? As long as they don't mix the ashes of anyone (humans or pets), which apparently they didn't, I see no problem here. I really don't care if they will mix my ash with a pet's ash after I die, but if someone does care, their wish should be respected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 05/10/2008
- RaraAvis17 I'm a Fan of RaraAvis17 7 fans permalink

This fucking war becomes more and more of a horror story that even Stephen King could come up with. I have never been so damn sick and tired of the way this Administration has treated our troops from the very beginning. First by lying about the war and everything about it, blackwater, the electrocutions of our troops, and god knows what else. I don't know how long I could live knowing that my son/daughter had gone through this lie and died for oil and money. When are THEY going to pay?

"Our heroes deserve to be better treated than that," Morrell said, adding that a sign at one of the crematoriums noted that it also does pet cremations. He said Gates offered an apology to military families for the insensitivity. YOU THINK?? WTF!

NO RESPECT... NONE... ZERO... NADA...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 05/10/2008

I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing to be cremated along with your pet(s) (or somebody else's pet). In various ancient civilization they owners would be interred with their pets so they could be with them in the afterlife. However, I think the perception that this may bring to grieving families is different. I think they would be a little disturbed and may feel that their loved one is not being treated respectfully for the ultimate sacrifice they gave. Pets are owned - people are not owned (at least should not be). Not all people are animal lovers, they might offended by this. So I agree with the viewpoint that the practice should be changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 05/10/2008
- wndrwrthg I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg 33 fans permalink
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I would prefer to either be cremated or have my body donated to a corpse farm, one of those that leaves bodies in natural states to decompose to train forensic pathologists. As to the story, I don't see a problem as long as guidlines are followed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 05/10/2008

The disrespect of the US solider appears not to have reached a bottoming out point. This ranks as complete malfeasant behavior. ...with dogs? ...with dogs????? I must say it again. ...with dogs??? The very idea. I can't take it anymore goodnight people. This 2 Bush Administration will go down in history as the very, very worst. What is George H. Bush, the father, thinking at this point? If I was him, I would be crying my eyes out and asking "how did my son F**K this up so bad and more importantly how did he get reelected for a second term?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 05/10/2008

While I have no wish to disrespect you or any fallen soldiers, I am struggling to understand why on earth this matters. For me, anyway, a dead human body is insignificant compared with the spirit of the person we've lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 05/10/2008

I was about to respond to your post and then it occurred to me. Your post does not make sense to the world of caring and compassionate human beings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/10/2008
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I asked my children to have my body cremated after my death. After that, they can flush my ashes down the toilet for all I care. In fact, I CAN'T CARE, I will be DEAD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/10/2008

Tell that to the widows and mothers that have lost their sons and daughters. The issue is not about you stupid, it's about the surviving family members and what they expect as honor and respect for their loved one. Please die soon so that we can eliminate these insensitive and disrespectful comments from you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/10/2008
- cindyw I'm a Fan of cindyw 44 fans permalink
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Absolutely. Death to all posters who say something you don't like!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 05/10/2008

"To date, Dover's port mortuary has processed 4,608 remains..."

Ummm...how come the military only cops to something like 4,070 dead in "The Warren Turrrrrur?

Something to ponder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 05/10/2008

"Ummm...how come the military only cops to something like 4,070 dead in "The Warren Turrrrrur?"

Yeah, I was also wondering why the numbers don't add up. Better yet...why the numbers don't EXIST...

"To date, Dover's port mortuary has processed 4,608 remains, but the Pentagon was not immediately able to say how many of those were cremations, and how many were handled by either Pippens or Torbert rather than service members' hometown facilities."

How many of those were cremations?
How many were handled by Pippens or Torbert?
How many were handled by service members' hometown facilities?

How many remains were in flag-draped coffins?

How many uncounted remains are STILL being processed ... even though the SCOURGE (surge) is working? ... even though VIOLENCE (victory) is just around the CORONER (corner)?

Instead of counting the remains...
let's count on the remaining troops coming home, UNHARMED!

OBAMA '08!
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 05/10/2008
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