Clinton Still Attacking Obama On Campaign Trail

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CHARLES BABINGTON and SARA KUGLER | May 10, 2008 11:25 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., arrives at a town hall-style meeting in Bend, Ore., Saturday, May 10, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

BEND, Ore. — Barack Obama began sketching the outlines of his expected presidential contest against Republican John McCain on Saturday, saying the fall election will be more about specific plans and priorities than about questions of political ideology or who is more patriotic.

Barely mentioning Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama said he was open to campaigning with McCain in "town hall" events. But he also warned that controversial issues such as McCain's ties to the Keating Five savings and loan scandal are fair game, and he called McCain's proposal for a temporary halt in the federal gasoline tax a pander and a gimmick.

He did not mention that Clinton supports a similar plan.

Obama also said he soon will campaign in Michigan and Florida, two battleground states whose Democratic primaries were essentially nullified by party disputes, angering many voters. He is scheduled to campaign Tuesday in Missouri, marking the first such visit to a state where the primary is over and McCain awaits him in the fall.

Saying he still has not secured the nomination, Obama nonetheless entertained several questions about the likely outlines of a contest against McCain. As he campaigned in Oregon, whose primary is May 20, Obama picked up four superdelegate endorsements, erasing Clinton's once-substantial lead among the party leaders who will determine the nominee.

Many party leaders feel it is only a matter of time before the former first lady must concede defeat. But Clinton forged ahead Saturday, holding a fundraiser in New York.

"Let's keep going, stay with me, this is a great adventure and we're going to make history," she told the crowd.

Speaking with reporters in Bend, Ore., Obama brushed aside suggestions that the fall campaign may be largely about his race, liberalism or patriotism.

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"In a contest between myself and John McCain," he said, "there is going to be a very clear choice on policy that I don't think is going to have to do with ideology and who theoretically is more liberal or who's more conservative. I think it is going to have to do with who has a plan to provide relief to people when it comes to their gas prices, who has a real plan to make sure that everybody has health insurance, who's got a real plan to deal with college affordability."

"So rather than an abstract set of questions about, 'Is he too liberal, is he too conservative, how do voters handle an African American, et cetera,' I think this is going to be a very concrete contest around very specific plans for how we improve the lives of Americans and our vision for the future," he said.

Obama said he realizes he must continue introducing himself to millions of Americans who do not know him well, and acknowledged that some question his patriotism because he no longer wears a lapel flag pin.

He said the test of patriotism "is whether we are true to the ideals and values upon which this country was founded," and willing to fight for them "even when it's politically inconvenient."

Obama said McCain has received "a free pass" while he and Clinton have battled for months.

McCain, he said, "has a straight-talker image, but it's not clear that lately he's been following through on that image. I mean, this gas tax holiday was a pander. He didn't even have a way of paying for it."

The McCain campaign noted that Obama, as an Illinois state senator, once voted for a temporary gas tax suspension. Obama now says he made a mistake.

Obama was asked Saturday if the fall campaign might touch on the 1987 Keating Five scandal, in which the Senate Ethics Committee said McCain used "poor judgment" for allegedly pressing regulators to go easy on the owner of a failed Arizona savings and loan who was also a campaign contributor.

Obama said there is no doubt the Keating Five case is "germane to the presidency."

"I can't quarrel with the American people wanting to know more about that," he said.

Clinton, meanwhile, spent the afternoon in Manhattan raising money for her cash-strapped campaign.

She made her pitch to a crowd of several hundred people, most of them women _ appealing to the group that has largely been responsible for keeping her in the race this long. In the primaries to date, Clinton has held a 60 percent to 36 percent edge over Obama among white female voters.

Appearing with her daughter, Chelsea, Clinton took questions from the audience after a short speech that touched on issues like equal pay for women and balancing work outside the home with family responsibilities. She barely mentioned Obama, only noting their differences on health care and the gas tax.

She said it would be "exciting to have the first mother in the White House."

"Part of what that would mean is that we would have someone who has lived the experiences that many of us share," she said.

Clinton has struggled to raise money in recent weeks, and was set back further this week when she squeaked by with a narrow win in Indiana while Obama won handily in North Carolina. Aides also disclosed that Clinton had lent her campaign $6.4 million since mid-April, and said she had not ruled out doing so again. The recent loans come after a separate $5 million loan in February.

Clinton is favored to win Tuesday's primary in West Virginia, and on Saturday she implored her audience to stick with her.

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Sara Kugler reported from New York.

BEND, Ore. — Barack Obama began sketching the outlines of his expected presidential contest against Republican John McCain on Saturday, saying the fall election will be more about specific plans...
BEND, Ore. — Barack Obama began sketching the outlines of his expected presidential contest against Republican John McCain on Saturday, saying the fall election will be more about specific plans...
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Obama's own words, buried by the media and his robotic followers. You can't argue with words because they do matter.

Quotes from the Audacity of Hope, from the 'Great Unifier" Barack Obama. Want to know him, read his book. Of course, that's asking a bit, isn't it?

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 05/17/2008

Part Two

Even with her profoundly obvious past and even present faults, I was willing to cast my vote in her direction like so many others. But somewhere in the late 2007 area (when I started actually paying attention) I didn't get the sense of "we" from Senator Clinton as much as "What I will do as your dictator ...umm, President!!"

My point is I want a president who is looking out for "us" from this day forward. I honestly don't mind about who voted for or against war THEN, but I do mind GREATLY on the WHY and even more on the reasons NOW for staying or leaving being sane and prudent!

Senator Clinton proved to me on more than one "which identity will appear today?" occasion, that her candidacy was not for me or "us".

All that said, if I had seen more ads like this, I think I might have actually voted for her. This ad is too little, too late.

Instead, I have been swept up by that relative nobody who is turning out be quite a SOMEBODY.

That somebody has spoken on EVERY occasion, the language of "WE". I could not agree more with his message of unity and faith in one another to help in overcoming adversity.

My vote AND my money go to Senator Barack Hussein Obama for President of OUR United States of America!!

Now where did I put my rose-colored glasses…

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/12/2008

***CONSPIRACY***ALERT***

Call Oliver Stone!! Does Valerie look like she's under duress??!! :-)

Part One

I applaud Senator Clinton on a very succinct, clean "come vote for me" ad. Albeit just a wee bit too late in the campaign. If this had been something I saw a year ago, I might have turned my glance in her direction.

Briefly, I was very much turned off by the "just another run for the presidency" by the same cast of characters who thrill me so very little. Cue Senator Obama and a fresh twist on American Dream and suddenly I'm sucked into politics like a dreamy eyed young Republican cooing over Ronald Reagan. I gave him about as much chance of winning as Mike Gravel (sorry Mike), but he did get me thinking. I made the exact same assumption as Senator Clinton's campaign did - - that she was going to wipe the floor with every other candidate. Somewhere along the line, that assumption of presumption gave way to flagrant egotism in the Clinton campaign. I cannot begin to tell you put off I was by that single lack of virtue. I sense that also affected Iowa voters right on through to Super Tuesday and beyond. We all know the story and it will no doubt be fodder for many a book, including Senator Obama's grand campaign strategy. But back to Senator Clinton.

(see next post)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 05/12/2008
- dbrockx I'm a Fan of dbrockx 2 fans permalink

Then she wonders why no one likes her. She doesn't deserve anything. She is in the race to try and destroy Obama and she will continue as long as she is in the race. There is no way Obama can truust her with the VP and I hope and pray that doens't happen. HRC has burned too many bridges and has proven to be a sore loser from day one. Instead of unifying the democratic party she is still dividing it. Sure she may win West Virginia and kentucky and mark my words, she will come out wth some more racist comments. Both of thos states are primarily white and she will insist she has momentum. The race is over and it's about time the super delegates make their decision. The more time we allow this woman to campaign, the more free time John Mccain has. She can't be trusted, besides, we don't need Bill Clinton anywhere near the White House. The both of them have proven if they don't get their way, then no one wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/11/2008

Whaattt??? Pointing out that the nation can ill afford a bifurcated health program wherein children's support is mandated but adults' health care remains optional and in the capable hands of the insurance industry is an attack on Sen. Obama? Such was the substance of the blog and the Pavlovian response of dbrockx. We are indeed in Never--Never Land now.

Even to his mindless cheering section in this blog, one would hope that our virtually certain candidate is not assumed to speak ex cathedra, or that his administration would be burdened by such an albatross as his platform to our most problematic domestic economic component. Sen. Obama's solution to the health care crisis is unrealistic; Sen. Clinton's healthcare plan, though only a first step toward the logical and comprehensive plan that she advocated in the '90's, is an order of magnitude preferable to Sen. Obama's

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/11/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

You said: "Sen. Obama's solution to the health care crisis is unrealistic; Sen. Clinton's healthcare plan, though only a first step toward the logical and comprehensive plan that she advocated in the '90's, is an order of magnitude preferable to Sen. Obama's"

On the contrary, it's Clinton's plan that is unrealistic. In order for it to go through Congress has to pass it and it needs to be something both sides can live with. Clinton's plan will be demolished by the republicans, while on the other hand Obama's give more flexible working room that gives it a higher chance of succeeding.

She couldn't pass it the first time around, because she was stubborn and had to have it HER WAY ONLY........................she's never willing to work as a team to solve problems she assumes only she's right about. We do not need that kind of leader again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 05/11/2008

The attacks that Hillary has made during the campaign should serve to disqualify her for any chance at a VP slot. Her actions should have consequences. Her statement about McCain being a better candidate than Obama, her use of the Jeremiah Wright gaffe, her lies about NAFTA, Bosnia and such need to be punished. She has hurt the democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/11/2008

In March of this year Hillary said:

"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002," Clinton says.


There's no way she can be on the ticket with Obama without the Republicans launching a major media attack using Hillary's own words to destroy Obama's campaign for president.

Hillary Clinton could have run a good, clean campaign based on ideas and platforms. She didn't. She and Bill took the political low road in the same path of Bush & Karl Rove. Now come the consequences.

Hopefully Hillary will play out the balance of the campaign without totally destroying what image the Clintons have left. Time will tell whether she goes out with dignity or screaming and clawing all the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/11/2008

It is so crystal clear at this point.

Senator Obama has
won the most states
won the most pledged delegates
won the most super delegates
won the most votes
raised the most money - sure the broke DNC realizes the significance of this one

What justification can there be for keeping the racist hillary horror show on the road?

Don your KKK hoods folks, we're headed to West Virginy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/11/2008

Does anybody still not know why we don't have universal health care today?

With a Democratic president, a Democratic majority in the House and a Democratic Majority in the Senate it should have been a cake walk to pass this legislation.

BUT hillary screwed it up so bad with her secret meetings, ties to lobbyists, promises of payola to insurance companies and runaway hubris.

Because of hillary's massive ego untold millions were not covered and not treated. There is no way to account for the number of deaths caused by lack of care.

You lie clintons - all three of you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 05/11/2008

Hillary still hasn't learned from her colossal failure on health care. The perfect is the enemy of the good. And she's willing to once again torpedo any progress on health care if she fails to get her way. All that "experience" and you think she would have learned something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/11/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

The day is coming soon. The fall of the House of Clinton...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/at-last-the-fall-of-the-house-of-clinton-825913.html

I hope the House of Bu$h implodes as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 05/11/2008

Thanks for the link. IT's a good article, although I think that Oscar Wilde's Portrait of Dorian Grey is a more appropriate analogy than the House of Usher. hillary gets nastier and ulgier by the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/11/2008
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I agree with the Dorian Grey analogy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/11/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 05/11/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 68 fans permalink
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I'm just waiting for Hillary to drop the "N" word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/11/2008

Well she did in a off-handed sort of way with her "Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

The moment I heard this I thought wow, is she implying the AA community doesn't have any hardworking blue collar members anymore?

But with regards to your comment Grav, if she does it will be preceded by 'Them Shiftless'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 05/11/2008

I wanted to hang up the pantsuits and close the closet door but it looks like I will have to keep looking at them until June 3rd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/11/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 212 fans permalink
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Clinton is so past tense. It's almost comical to see her out campaigning as though this election is still up for grabs. Saturday Night Live opened their show last night with a little skit depicting Hillary Clinton as a SORE LOSER....And, the sad truth is that in real life, she's acting the part in earnest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 05/11/2008
- Oakland I'm a Fan of Oakland 13 fans permalink
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Somebody get a hook. This woman is making a total fool out of herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 05/11/2008
- likeicare I'm a Fan of likeicare 8 fans permalink

Like the guy from the LATimes said the other night on MSNBC, at this point, it's just a question of how much scenery she takes with her when she exits the stage, and how many audience members.

Not very classy, Hillary. But then again, you never were, were you -- really?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/11/2008
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