Obama And McCain Open To Unmoderated Debates Across Country

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New York Times   |  Adam Nagourney And Jeff Zeleny   |   May 10, 2008 08:07 PM


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Senators John McCain and Barack Obama are already drawing up strategies for taking each other on in the general election, focusing on the same groups -- including independent voters and Latinos -- and about a dozen states where they think the contest is likely to be decided this fall, campaign aides said.

In a sign of what could be an extremely unusual fall campaign, the two sides said Saturday that they would be open to holding joint forums or unmoderated debates across the country in front of voters through the summer. Mr. Obama, campaigning in Oregon, said that the proposal, floated by Mr. McCain's advisers, was "a great idea."

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My instant reaction was, "WHA--?!?!?" I never believed McCain would ever agree to ONE debate, where his well-known true ignorance of the issues, and his positions which run counter to the American majority's, could be exposed to the public by the millions... let alone a series of debates... and UNMODERATED? Be still O my heart!

Then I began to think about it...

The political junkies, and "HIGH-information voters", will watch these debates. Their preferences will be reinforced by what they see.

The mainstream media, meanwhile, will tell the story of how the debates go, based on how they always cover McCain. He will get pass after pass, and the Rovian smears and accusations he throws at Obama, while they will be handled admirably on the spot, will rise again in print and on television the next day as unresolved "issues" for a troubled Barack Obama.

The debates will become what the MSM says they were, and sadly, most of America's less interested citizens will come away with a much different picture of what the well-informed will be seeing.

It's one thing to be articulate, and on the right side of things. It's another to have the press watching your back, always.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/11/2008

Does McCain get to have Lieberman whispering in his ear in the middle of each answer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/11/2008

Yes and he will be saying "Your name is John and You are a Loser"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/11/2008

No. Obama doesn't get a speech typed out for him either so they should be pretty even.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/11/2008

Those people who type out their speeches ahead of time are losers!!! Being prepared for speaking... what morons. They should just confuse major factions of Muslims in the middle east and build missile defense in countries that haven't existed in years. Oh yeah... and make women bring pregnancies that are the result of incest to term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 05/11/2008

My view of the debate:

Senator Obama says: I am Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

Senator McCain says: I am John---------I am John-------------- I am John Bush???????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/11/2008

Hardy-har-har-har. Lame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/11/2008

No moderation? Does that mean they can make baseless accusations at each other while swearing the F-word for every other word used? Ruh-roh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/11/2008

I hope McBubba does not confuse himself with Bill and use the finger

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/11/2008

I'm for it!~ But then again, my favorite movie is "Lock, Stock and
Two Smoking Barrels"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/11/2008


McBomb is an arrogant fool if he's going to give up

his MSM, corporatist advantage of fixed questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/11/2008

Please. Obama sounds like the ghost from The Grudge whenever he doesn't have a speech laid out in front of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/11/2008

McCain will be in his element during a debate like this. Debates are not Obama's strength. McCain will be much more difficult to beat than many of you realize. However, we would all be well served by a Lincoln-Douglas style debate, regardless of whether it plays to Obama's or McCain strength. The people need to hear these candidates in action.

It should be hosted by a non-partisan group like the League for Women Voters or maybe PBS. The networks have not served our country well during the many debates that they've sponsored during this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/11/2008

Obama will wipe the floor with McCain. McCain reads from scripts on the stump that his campaign staffers write for him ; he just doesn't seem to have the snap he had before the primary season started. Even his recent appearance on TDS seemed stilted.

With all the flip-flopping McCain's done from his previous positions, watch for the "hump" on his back during any general election debates. He'll need live help to stay on the Republican talking points, many of which I don't think he truly believes given his previous maverick status. He doesn't know what he thinks anymore; that's what comes from pandering to attract all factions of the Republican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/11/2008

"McCain reads from scripts on the stump that his campaign staffers write for him ; he just doesn't seem to have the snap he had before the primary season started."

What do you think Obama does? Ever wonder why "typical white people" and "cling to guns and religion" came out? Obama is not a good speaker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 05/11/2008

What do I think Obama does? He speaks much more extemporaneously than McCain on the stump because he doesn't use a teleprompter. Obama's speech after the sound bites of Rev. Wright hit the airwaves *was* prepared, and Obama spoke eloquently as he does after all such speeches.

I stand by my original statement. McCain is dull and rarely passionate when he speaks about his beliefs because he's just not sure where he stands anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/11/2008

Sorry did not know MaCain could read!! My Bad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 05/11/2008

Obama's even temperament and congeniality will be on display right next to McCain's firey, unstable nature.

I think McInsane's advisors have underestimated their candidate's inability to keep his anger under control for longer than just a few minutes.

BRING IT ON!

Obama08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/11/2008

John McCain can't be allowed to win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y395Tftgz0E

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/11/2008

McCain may be unwittingly putting himself in a very bad spot. Obama is very, very smart when it comes to unintentional digs. If he can do this enough to really bug McCain, McCain's temper might rear it's ugly head in front of thousands of voters. It'll be the end of him.

GOBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/11/2008

I agree with you poco, this is like the last season of the West Wing, a young political outsider wins a heated Democratic contest against a well known and experienced Democrat. And then takes on a aging Republican maverick who is dragged down to the radical right. And right McCain and Obama want to have unmoderated debates where they will ask each other questions, like an episode of the West Wing. It is eerie poco, what will be wierd if when Obama wins the Presidency he will ask McCain to be in his cabinet like Jimmy Smits character did when he asked Alan Alda to be his cabinet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/11/2008

The analogy begins to erode when you look at the erudite, eloquent and fictional Arnold Vinnick (played by Alan Alda) who boasts a wealth of foreign policy experience, as well as a firm grasp on economic principles and compare him with the very real John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 05/11/2008

I think they should have lieberman standing by, to help him out with that memory problem! And let's hope he don't go off on his wife like he has in the past. Man any woman who'd vote for a man who verbally abuse's his wife by calling her a trolip and a Cu@t, has no respect for themself or their gender. I can't figure it out! Woman say they don't want to be treated like a peice of meat, or verbally or physically abused! Yet they will vote for a man who verbally abuse's not only his wife, but his own senators around him, that he works with by calling them the "F" word and evesn at one time physically attacked another senator! No , this is not the man we need to try to mend bridges and talk to other Nations for us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 05/11/2008

McCain is going for the free media with this plan. He knows that he is getting whipped in the fundraising race. Unfortunately for him the lack of moderators structure will keep the event from getting sidetracked to the ridiculous stuff like flag pins. That will allow Obama to get in his groove, and when he is in his groove he is one of the most charasmatic public speakers that this country has seen in decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/11/2008

Look for the bulge in the back of McCain's jacket, like Bush had, to allow some political hack to feed responses to him. In a fair contest on the issues, Obama or any honest person will smash McCain. It won't be pretty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/11/2008

exactly -- we the people should demand a frisk before the debate begins!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 05/11/2008

This should be fun. Obama can start by asking McCain if he knows what state he is in and then ask McCain to find Checkoslovakia on the globe.

McCain is burnt bread

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 05/11/2008

Maybe it is just me but this whole election season is becoming uncannily like the last season of the west wing.
If you recall, the first latino candidate, a young party outsider gets the nomination and ends up in a open debate with the aging republican nominee, a maverick who gets dragged to the right trying to appease his base. Maybe I am just getting stranger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 05/11/2008

Not at all... I saw on Slate V that when they did the last season on West Wing, it was Axelrod that they went to for advice and it was Obama that Axelrod used as his inspiration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/11/2008

A McCain series of debates against Obama will be a "death by a thousand cuts" that McCain will not even realize have been given but will result in his demise as a viable candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 05/11/2008

I don't know that I will be able to watch them debate, McBush will be SOOO out of his league. Obama will mop up the floor with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 05/11/2008

So why did Obama turn-down such a debate format when Clinton offered the challenge?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 05/11/2008

She's hurting financially. That was what the Obama campaign hoped to achieve with Pennsylvania, and they did. Why would they then give her the free media?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 05/11/2008

Since HuffPo makes it impossible to edit, that should have been she instead of he, of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 05/11/2008

Because they had already had numerous exchanges and it was just a last gasp desperate fantasy for her that she could twist something around and somehow twist something around to her advantage. If only he would go after McCain with that enthusiasm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/11/2008

Because she was a has been by that time and needed the free exposure. Why didn't she just buy an hour of air time and read from her position papers? What's that? Oh, I forgot, she could not afford it. By the way, Steamboat, did you max out in contributions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 05/11/2008

Because he had nothing to gain from debating Clinton again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 05/11/2008

This will be a real fun to watch although I don't get why McBush is interested in the idea. As far as I saw McBush is not a good debater at all - wrong and boring at the same breath and since he does not have any plans for anything what so ever except continuously pushing GWB's extreme far right agenda.
Bring it on, I say!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/11/2008

I beleve this format wil be real torture for McShame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 05/11/2008

They better have a defibrillator on hand, and a huge tarp when McCain's head explodes.

Will Lieberman be on the stage?

I think they should both be put in Faraday cages, you know McCain will be "wired for sound!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 05/11/2008

I can't wait for McCain to "confuse" a fact. Obama will be able to nicely correct him while at the same time fanning the flames of McInsane's temper.

I'm convinced McFossil will lose his temper in front of the voters.

GOBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/11/2008

It's especially salient because the type of confusion McCain experienced is the type of confusion that led to this ill-conceived war being waged in the worst possible way. Sunnis have something of a democratic structure to their religious organization while Shiites do not. So, it should have been obvious that there would be strong Shia opposition even if things went as well as could be expected. Things went much worse and things are even worse because of a failure to recognize simple facts like the one just mentioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 05/11/2008

Good maybe now we can get to the issues rather than silliness.

There is plenty of differences between these two candidate in fact I would go as far and say that these two candidates have shown the most contrast in any election I can remember.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 05/11/2008