New York Times Lets Rove Skate On McCain Advisory Role

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First Posted: 05-12-08 02:31 PM   |   Updated: 05-20-08 05:12 AM

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An article in today's New York Times, exploring Karl Rove's newish career as a pundit, features Obama spokesman Bill Burton saying, "Wouldn't taking his advice be a little like getting health tips from a funeral home director?" Funny stuff! Of course, Burton would be just as accurate if he had noted that taking Rove's advice would also be a little like getting campaign advice from one of McCain's advisers, because that is precisely what Rove is.

Reporters Jim Rutenberg and Jacques Steinberg are clearly somewhat concerned with the way Rove has blurred the line between ostensibly independent pundit and official campaign adviser - they allude to the concern no less than five times in the first fifteen paragraphs! The "news media" is cited as "not always know[ing] what to make of" Rove's new role. Rove is credited with being "another step in the evolution of mainstream journalism, where opinion, 'straight news' reporting and unmistakable spin increasingly mingle." Former Clinton crony George Stephanopoulos is cited as another media hire that "raised hackles." David Broder is on hand to suggest that it is a "worrisome trend." It is noted that people like Rove are hired despite the fact that their campaign affiliations are "a detail that is usually shared with the audience but not always." And they cite five other people who frequent the scene of on-air political journalism whose connections to campaigns are similarly fuzzy.

But when it comes to applying some sort of scrutiny to Rove, they let the man speak for himself, unchallenged:

"I'm not certain that I qualify as an adviser to McCain," [Rove] wrote this month in an online discussion with readers of The Washington Post's Web site, which unlike Fox News, Newsweek and The Journal identified him as "an informal adviser" to the McCain campaign. "I have friends at the campaign who occasionally ask me for reactions, and the Fox network is well aware of that, and similar contacts by some of their Democratic analysts."

But Karl Rove is, without doubt, a formal campaign advisor to John McCain. By ThinkProgress' count, today marks the ninety-seventh day that the Fox News Channel has failed to disclose this fact. Ninety-three days into their RoveWatch, Fox's viewers were treated to Rove and Bill "Fuck it! We'll do it live!" O'Reilly making big wet kissy-faces at John McCain - the noteworthy irony being that O'Reilly has, in the past, railed against the failure of the media to disclose their pundits' connections. And less than a week ago, we caught Fox News' Chris Wallace fatuously framing a question to Rove with the phrase, "If you were advising John McCain..." Rove is and does advise McCain!

Rutenberg and Steinberg aren't able to find a single soul willing to offer any pushback to Rove's contention, despite having ably suggested that such a critique would be appropriate. Instead, readers get an unnamed editor cooing with affection over Rove, and Paul Begala, of all people, suggesting that having a guy on the air pretending to not have a massive conflict of interest made for "interesting television."

At least the authors offer some dispute of Begala's contention: "Unlike many of his fellow commentators, Mr. Rove has avoided many big predictions."

An article in today's New York Times, exploring Karl Rove's newish career as a pundit, features Obama spokesman Bill Burton saying, "Wouldn't taking his advice be a little like getting health tips fro...
An article in today's New York Times, exploring Karl Rove's newish career as a pundit, features Obama spokesman Bill Burton saying, "Wouldn't taking his advice be a little like getting health tips fro...
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- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Carl Rove is indeed a SHAMELESS man. Taking "advice" from him is like taking one from an undertaker. He can only fool some folks at sometimes but cannot fool all the folks all the time. He is indeed singing past a grave yard. He should stick his so-called "advice".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/13/2008

Where is Mr. Rove's flag pin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 05/13/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Did you check his ass?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/13/2008

Thanks for the laugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 05/13/2008

Karl fu%$ing Rove outed one of our CIA covert agent..Do I need to say more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/13/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 491 fans permalink
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I denounce and reject the comment comparing Rove to funeral directors. This is an insult to funeral directors everywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 05/13/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Accept my appologies to to "awful" anology. Maybe they meant to say Lucifer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 05/13/2008
- Nyla785 I'm a Fan of Nyla785 9 fans permalink

Rove is refusing to testify in the investigation of the Alabama Gov. Siegelman case--which looks to be like a political prosecution to help a Republican keep his office. Again, no accountability for this administration and the NUMEROUS acts it has done behind closed doors--all in the name of politics and WINNING--at any cost. No doubt Rove will cry 'executive privilege'---only now it's beginning to look like the 'privilege' to get away with illegal, unethical acts.

Rove is a known crook who has helped to undermine our electoral system. No wonder he's on Fox News now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 05/13/2008

Rove giving Democrats advice is like Dr. Kevorkian helping the elderly beat cancer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 05/13/2008

LOL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/13/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Hee hee heeeeeee!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 05/13/2008
- Taaj I'm a Fan of Taaj 11 fans permalink

Why is Karl Rove walking free and not locked up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 05/12/2008

Amen!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/12/2008

Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 05/13/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Amen!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

I hope I live to see the day when people like Karl Rove become OBSOLETE!!!

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/12/2008

Wait, he's not already?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 05/13/2008
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Karl Rove should not be allowed anywhere near a microphone or a word processor. In fact, they need to take away his notepads and writing tools. I'm thinking Guantanamo might be good for his next R & R stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 05/12/2008

Good Lord! Karl Rove is not wearing a flag lapel pin!! Treason!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/12/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

Typically pithy comment from one of the consistently brilliant Obama operatives. Except for one minor simile correction: Funeral directors, when they embalm their clients....do not actually drink their blood.

This is also why Anne Rice, whose entire genres tells us she also does not get this....recently came forth for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 05/12/2008

"Obama spokesman Bill Burton saying, "Wouldn't taking his advice be a little like getting health tips from a funeral home director?"

I've noticed Sen. Obama's campaign people have a stinging wit including Sen. Obama. I love how they take swipes but it comes off as more humorous than cutting. Notice the way Obama takes a swipe at McCain's age -- "Sen. McCain is a war hero who has served his country FOR DECADES" -- wink, wink he's old as hell ! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 05/12/2008
- oafishcad I'm a Fan of oafishcad 44 fans permalink

Ageism is bigotry, same as racism. Neither is funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 05/12/2008

When Obama said that McCain had "lost his bearings" he was refering to his moral compass. As McCain had said that he would run a respectfull campaign, and then sent out a fundraising letter with a slur about Obama & Hamas in it.
He had lost his moral bearings is what he was saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 05/12/2008

One can't stop aging (if they continue to live). One can stop being a racist. Besides, most senior citizens tend to laugh at themselves as the symptoms of aging become more prevalent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 05/13/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 185 fans permalink
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I don't think Obama is trying to be demeaning. He's trying to be respectful of McCain's service, since he actually HAS served for decades. If Obama dismissed the importance of McCain's service or made no mention of it, people would be whining about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 05/12/2008
- Ariesjill I'm a Fan of Ariesjill 19 fans permalink

It's not either/or....rich people ---commnicate richly and with infinite nuance. Seattlelite nailed it....and OMG....it's emblematic of the kind of human I have not seen until now within the polticial arena.. What a GIFT! And not a nano too soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/12/2008

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Well, gee.

Ms. Huffington, a publisher, has been running the all-Obama-­all-the-ti­me website for years now.

What's the difference between any of the people mentioned in the article and her?

How much would she howl if Rupert Murdoch turned the WSJ into an all-McCain­-all-the-t­ime newspaper?

It's just ridiculous.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/12/2008
- kdublya I'm a Fan of kdublya 101 fans permalink
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Agreed.

There are four fingers pointing back on this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 05/12/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/12/2008

YES! I agree!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 05/13/2008
- Joeblue I'm a Fan of Joeblue 5 fans permalink

You don't have to read it if you don't want to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 05/13/2008
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