Obama Muslim Smear Resurfaces: NYT Op-Ed Tags Obama As Muslim 'Apostate'

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First Posted: 05-12-08 05:15 PM   |   Updated: 06-25-08 06:18 PM

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For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' master plan to destroy America by giving their son a middle name that would come to be shared by an Iraqi dictator that no one had even heard of at the time of Barack's birth! After a while, Obama got shot of that mess and was accepted as a Christian. But then! It turned out that his preacher had said three or four things that people found objectionable, and it turned out that said preacher enjoyed all the attention he got more than he did serving his faith, so Obama had to labor to get shot of that controversy. Well, it's been a few weeks since the nation has pointedly moved on from that matter, so I guess it's time for the pendulum to swing back to the Obama-as-secret-Muslim argument.

Stepping up to fill that void is Edward Luttwak, a military strategist who apparently feels like he's got the background to start expounding on religious doctrines he's not familiar with in the New York Times. According to Luttwak, Obama's a Muslim and there's nothing he or anyone can do about it:

As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother's Christian background is irrelevant.


Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.

In other words, nuts to Obama's professed personal choice in faith! The only thing that keeps Obama from being a Muslim is the peculiar semantic trickery of "most Americans'" understanding.

Luttwak takes pains to say, "That an Obama presidency would cause such complications in our dealings with the Islamic world is not likely to be a major factor with American voters, and the implication is not that it should be." And that would be sufficient, I suppose, were it not for the great lengths he goes to in presenting these "complications" as things that sound like they might be a "major factor with American voters."

At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards. More broadly, most citizens of the Islamic world would be horrified by the fact of Senator Obama's conversion to Christianity once it became widely known -- as it would, no doubt, should he win the White House. This would compromise the ability of governments in Muslim nations to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism, as well as American efforts to export democracy and human rights abroad.

Allow me to translate from the original Luttwak: "I only have a faint idea what I'm talking about. But you voters should be really, really concerned. Just don't tell anyone it was me who suggested this!"

Of course, Luttwak's chiefest concern is also the most inane one:

With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings.

So there you have it. If Obama is elected, we will have to break with tradition and undertake the unprecedented step of ensuring he is not beheaded, stoned, or hanged by Islamic clerics.

For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' m...
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As an academic, I am use to reading such purely theoretical, unrealistic, and indirectly-experienced dribble. Knowing of Dr. Luttwak’s previous writings and general agenda (including his belief that humanitarian aid should not be given to countries in need), his bias in this current article is clear. It evident that he is one of the last people who could consider himself a specialist in Islamic law or the current practices of this world religion. The New York Times should be chastised for publishing such an editorial that once again fuels the issues of race and religion in our current election process. In addition to erroneously influencing voters in a manner no different than the image of Senator Obama on his trip to Africa in 2006 or Senator Clinton’s doubting response on “60 Minutes”, this article is even more criminal for it potentially places a presidential candidate in harm's way. I already wrote the The New York Times and suggested that they retract this article, and it was clear from their blog that it truly offended Muslims all over the world. As for Dr. Lutt-wacko, I would not be surprised if a fatwa is decreed against him. He should be ashamed for his inaccurate manipulations, As for myself, I "denounce” my subscription to the NYT and will now only read the Huffington Post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 05/13/2008
- BigBen I'm a Fan of BigBen 4 fans permalink

Religion even Muslim religion should be left out of politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 05/13/2008

Religion politics should be left out of secular politics is probably a more accurate argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/14/2008
- jrterrier I'm a Fan of jrterrier 5 fans permalink

the force of your logic was completely undermined when you stated in ending that you would not be surprised if a fatwa was decreed against the writer of the piece you condemned. isn't your fatwa suggestion doing the same thing you decry -- placing a person in harm's way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/14/2008

Perhaps the turning of the page in our American history is beyond the imagination of Mr. Luttwak in what he foists upon the American people through his distorted commentary - as though it were based in truth or in fact, where he can neither see the dimensions for what hope can accomplish, nor is he capable of perceiving the very RED, WHITE and BLUE heritage that Senator Barack Obama was born into and what that blessed freedom and democracy means not only for Senator Obama - but for ALL OF US WHO ARE AMERICANS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/13/2008

Mr. Linkins, the NYT Op-Ed is not a *smear*. Before you qualify it as such you should refute what the article says, and with documentation. Anything asked, or said, about Mr. Obama becomes a *smear*. Many persons know Mr. Obama very well. And many others know everything there is to know about Islam, even though they are not muslims. To me, that makes not much sense. For me it has taken a lifetime of learning and studying to know as much as I can know about my religion, and I will never know all about it. Many christians quote from their Bible, and have never even read that Bible, I suspect. As a non christian, I hear their quotes and look it up, in their Bible, and I see something different from what they are quoting. For example, Jesus never became a christian, and he never, ever, said, go right ahead, and do whatever you want, I will forgive you. None of that. He said: forgive OTHERS. Now, having read that, and understood that my way, does that make me an expert on christianity over christians? Of course not. The article was about apostasy. And, as for beheading and killing people, no muslim, anywhere, was ever heard of doing such a thing. Right? ;). And apostasy is just nothing in Islam, right? It is nothing in judaism either, right? Apostasy does not have any consequences anywhere, ever, is that not true? And the writer knows that..how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 05/13/2008
- JadedAggie I'm a Fan of JadedAggie 10 fans permalink

The problem is your own argument makes it clear this is a smear. There is a lack of factual reasoning for the argument being made. It is made solely on perception and a very rigid interpretation of a foreign religious doctrine. So far there is no factual event basis for his argument as supposedly radical Muslim groups have actually came out and supported his run for the presidency. This Op-ed is just a trap in order to have him in a situation where half the GOP claims he is a Muslim apostate whom they will never accept as a foreign leader and do everything to kill, while the other half claims he is the choice of radical Muslims that see him as on their side. Both of these arguments rely heavily on the idea that the American people are both dimwitted and prejudice enough not to perceive reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/13/2008

It all started with his name "Barack Obama". The right wing media immediately attached him with the Muslim tag. When that didn't work, the dug into his christian faith, and found Revrend Wright. Now reverend Wright is fading away, they now have to get back to the Muslim ties. And it's so unfortunate that many uninformed Americans still believe that. You can't have it both ways people. You have been slicing and dicing Senator Obama so thin, until there's not much left. America is losing one of the best presidential candidates of a lifetime, because of hateful smears such as these.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/13/2008

"Muslim law as it is universally understood" ??? This is the world's second-biggest (if not biggest - numbers vary) religion we're talking about here! It spans from California to Indonesia. Has Luttwak noti

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/13/2008

I just wrote a response to a comment by Dentuso, in which he *kindly* suggests I move over, because he has a different opinion, and only his opinion counts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 05/13/2008

Dentuso. YOU have known Obama for twelve years and you can vouch for him. I, on the other hand, and many others, had NOT HEARD about Obama until he started running for the presidency. So, Obama is clean as a whistle? I take your word for it, no questions asked. However, if it is o.k. with you - do you own this website? - I WILL NOT MOVE OVER. This blog is not about Obama. It is about something different. It is about how a muslim is viewed in his own community, and it is about how muslims view who is, and who is not, a muslim. Is there an objection to knowing a little more about that subject? Is that, somehow, a threat, or a smear, to Obama and his worshippers? It may be important to know how a religious (not racial) background may influence how an American President is perceived in the world and how that would affect his effectiveness. The issues brought up in the article this blogger refutes are real and important issues we should be aware of. You may be certain Obama is aware of this. A discussion of these issues, in all aspects, will help us understand others better. Americans know too little about too many issues. However, even those who are part of a certain culture/religion do not know everything there is to know about their own corner of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/13/2008
- KeysDan I'm a Fan of KeysDan 23 fans permalink

The concerns expressed for the sensitivities of foreign nations in our elected and appointed officers are more often, in my view, rooted in internal concerns and reflect internal prejudices. For example, when Mr. James Hormel was appointed by President Clinton to be Ambassador. the homophobia of opponents was disguised as concern for the sensitivities of Luxembourg: when Mrs. Albright was appointed by President Clinton as the first female Secretary of State, the true identity of their sexism was presented as concern for acceptance of a women in Muslin countries. We I read the Luttwak Apostate article in the NYTimes, about Senator Obama, I just put his concerns in the same file cabinet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/13/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

I don't think Obama is religious which is fine with me. Unfornately it is still not accpetable for a person to win the presidency w/o affirming their faith in Jesus.

Obama raised faith as important part of who he is; that invited scrutiny. If he downplayed his faith before the Rev. Wright that might have mitigated the impact on that debacle.

You keep hearing the distrust issues with Hillary Clinton. I have no idea what Obama really stands for on faith and idealogy. People who have seen him live say they leave w/o getting any better understanding of who he is.

For better or worse we know McCain and Hillary. We don't know this guy and that is mostly his fault.
He shows us just what he wants us to see. Sorry, I don't want to vote for someone like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 05/13/2008
- MrKINOKO I'm a Fan of MrKINOKO 11 fans permalink
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So don't. Vote for the profiteering, pandering candidate you think, for some odd reason, you "know". Personally, I think you don't know jack...because if you "knew" anything about Hillary, I can't imagine how you could even consider voting for her. Or Mr. Magoo, who would keep us in a quagmire of death for the next 100 years, 90 years or mare after he's gone off to Hades. Sit this one out, ok? you are not needed. If you think someone has to worship "Jesus", who I suppose you "know" as well,to become an elected official, then I apperently know nothing about modern American politics. I guess I must have wasted my time getting that political science degree, when I should have just become a Jesus freak instead..a sure fast-track to a nomination in W. Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and Ohio....4 states I will not only never go to again, but wouldn't even fly over in a plane on my way to a real state anymore. Sit this one out, SF#s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 05/13/2008
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"We don't know this guy and that is mostly his fault. He shows us just what he wants us to see."

Have you read his book and checked his policies on his web site? Do you have specific questions that you'd like answered? Or are you looking for "someone that you'd like to have a beer with"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 05/13/2008
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No, it is your fault because you can't seem to read two books or even do ten minutes of Google investigation. S top blaming Barack for your own inability to do adequate research. For those of us who have taken the time, there isn't the slightest bit of doubt about who he is or where he will take the country. I am glad most voters aren't as incurious as you seem to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 05/13/2008
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Sounds a lot like once a Jew always a Jew...oh yeah, it is all about that religion of Abraham, just another side of the coin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 05/13/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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Here's what we'll do!!!

Let's do this like a drinking game for all of us on Huffinton Post, Real Clear, etc.

The rules: Every time you see certain words on any of these blogs as used by a Clinton or McCain supporter, let's make a contribution to Obama's campaign. They won't stop, but knowing that Obama's campaign is flush with beans is going to drive them nuts!

Here's the chart. Participate if you can, PLEASE!

WORD CONTRIBUTION
muslim 5 cents
racist 5 cents
Wright 10 cents
Ayers 10 cents
disenfranchise/revote 5 cents
hamas 10 cents
unelectable 10 cents
weather underground 5 cents
black church 5 cents
Kool aid/cult 5 cents

What am I forgetting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 05/13/2008
- MrKINOKO I'm a Fan of MrKINOKO 11 fans permalink
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Fantastic idea, except I'm going to make that $5, etc., instead of 5 cents. I'm on his site donating right now....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 05/13/2008
- EGNY I'm a Fan of EGNY 4 fans permalink

You're forgetting that, as of the last few weeks or so, this site is now an open field for HRC and McCain people to say stuff like this. All those mean, mean Obama supporters, taking umbrage at the smear tactics and having the nerve to say so, must no apparently be censored. Deleted. Their posts must not appear in the first place.

Comment policy? Can you really call it a "policy" if it's application is so variable as to leave one unable to figure out what the rules actually are? Don't get me wrong, we do need rules. And I see no reason to be unnecessarily inflammatory or negative about Hillary. But, the TRUTH should be OK, right? A reasonable, proportionate response to lies and smear tactics could be OK, right? Not necessarily. Because, as I have discovered, you can try your best and still get your comments zapped. I'll be stunned if this one shows up.

What you're missing, dentuso, is that you're no longer on the right website for your idea. Sad, really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 05/13/2008

You may contribute all you want, dentuso. Go right ahead. However, if you tell others posting comment on this website to *move over* I think, personally, that you are out of line. Apparently, though, I am mistaken. I just wrote a response to that *move over* and it was zapped. So, anyone, if you post any of the words above, no matter in what context, you may be zapped and you will get a fine! Dentuso has known Obama for twelve years. I, and many others, had never heard of him, and were, and are, trying to find out before placing our final vote in November. I thought that in a Democracy we had that right. Dentuso, in his hot pursuit here on this thread, has, in my humble opinion, missed what the writer of this blog also did not get, namely that muslims have a certain view of who is and is not a muslim. Dentuso and the writer of this blog have the final knowledge on this.????;). Islam is not a simple religion. Whether a news outlet writes about who is and who is not a muslim, or has an opinion, that is not the issue. We may get hot under the collar and become apoplectic about it. That does not affect what muslims' decide is true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/13/2008

Yes, Jason Linkins, you do not have the faintest idea of what YOU are talking about. One should only write about matters one knows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/13/2008

On Obama's website I read a listing of his religion. It says: Christian...OTHER (no caps in the listing). Obama has spent time in Indonesia and with an Indonesian father. I know Indonesians. Many Indonesians came to The Netherlands in 1948. I was married to an Indonesian. Indonesians have a different view of religion than Westerners do and easily incorporate a new religion into one they already have, keeping both (or all) of them. So, those discussing these matters here, who do not know, really, what is in Obama's mind, or upbringing, and accuse people of a *smear*, may not really know what they are considering and talking about. Indonesians acknowledge many gods. Their world is full of gods and spirits. Whole hierarchies. There is a form of puppet theatre that clearly demonstrates that. In Amsterdam I visited the Institute for the Tropics many times, where we could learn a great deal about Indonesia. This blogger does not understand the issue he is writing about. And many blogs and posts are, indeed, quite obviously, smears of Hillary. A smear, of anyone, is out of order, so are direct ad hominem attacks and nametags. No matter who we root for, we can not get the best possible candidate if we are not honest and lower ourselves to insults and attacks and will not look at real facts. There really is no use to get into a frenzy about an article which states a very real and obvious issue..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 05/13/2008
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He was raised mostly as an agnostic by a spiritual, though not religious, mother. You have obviously not bothered to read his books or do even the most basic of Internet research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/13/2008
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First, the "Christian ... Other" is because Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ -- a smaller denomination than Catholic, Southern Baptist, Presbyterian, etc. Hence, "other" as his *denomination* of Christianity, not as in "Christian...(plus some) Other (religion that I won't name because it would hurt my chances of getting elected)."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 05/13/2008
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Second, Obama is *not* Indonesian. Might it not be possible that the *43+ years* that Obama has lived in the country of his birth -- the United States -- could have more influence on Obama's religious outlook than the *4 years* that Obama spent in Indonesia as a child? Could it not also be possible that his mother -- from Kansas -- would have at least as much influence on his religious outlook as the step father with whom he spent (again) about four years? I find it absolutely astounding that you could think that such short exposure to Indonesian culture as a child (while living with his Kansas-born mother, no less) would completely override over four decades of living in the United States. Please think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 05/13/2008
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Finally, you state that people calling out these "Obama is a secret Muslim" smears when they see them "do not know, really, what is in Obama's mind, or upbringing." Of course we can't know what is in his head. Nobody truly can know that about anybody. He has, however, written two books about his upbringing and his beliefs, been interviewed countless times, and spoken about his religious belief more than Hillary or McCain combined. We know *at least as much* about "what's in his mind" as we do about any of the candidates in the race. Now, just because *you* haven't read any of this, doesn't mean that it isn't freely available -- it simply means that you have chosen to ignore it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 05/13/2008

You do realize Obama lived in Indonesia for 4 years between the ages of 6 and 10... right?

If you honestly think someone can be exposed to something for 4 years and then spend the next 36 and still maintain them without question... then I really have no idea what you're thinking.

Also I'm just horribly confused about your entire comment...

1) Your whole comment is about Indonesia... this article is about a guy branding Obama as an ex-Muslim. Not seeing the connection...

2) "we can not get the best possible candidate if we are not honest and lower ourselves to insults and attacks and will not look at the real facts"... BUT... "There really is no use to get into a frenzy about an article which states a very real and obvious issue.." I have no idea what part of this article is a 'real and obvious issue'. And as I would put it, this is a personal attack and worthy of 'frenzy'

3) You just speculated on someone's mind, someone who spent, as I said, 4 years of his YOUTH by comparing it to a grown Indonesian native.

I'm sorry... I just don't see anything you just said as a valid thought or concern. I'm open to further explanation though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 05/13/2008
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Since we Americans strive towards fairness did you mean to omit the BASIC premise of that article on purpose?

What the author of that artincle was to try to disprove was an argument he imlies that some people may make that because Senator Obama is who he is cuturally or racially (not sure) that he thinks it
is innacurate to believe that it would help a President Obama (and therefore our country) to promote peace and all things good in the Middle East.

I don't know anyone who believe this, but it doesn't mean that people don't.

If anyone does believe that the people of the Middle East could be impressed by a black US President I would point out that when a great black actor (Lou Gosset) played the dark skinned President Sadat of Egypt, on Network TV in the 80s, the streets of Cairo Egypt were up in arms that their leader should be played by a black man.

There are probably 300Million reasons why people vote for one person over another. I try not to Free Associate, take on other people's opionions as my own, or to be spun. But instead to educate myself on their record.

It would be just as wrong not to vote for Senator Clinton because women are often treated like second class citizens in many parts of the world. In fact she has positively impacted the lives of millions of women around the world both as a Senator and a First Lady.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/13/2008
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What he is saying is that Muslims may view him as Muslim due solely to his birth and rejecting his conversion. He is only talking about how the Muslims will view him and react to him and how that will play into foreign relations. I don't think it's a problem for people to point out the issue. He was born to a Muslim father. Do any of you know Muslim customs from other countries and know if what he's saying isn't true?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/13/2008

You may remember what happened when a Muslim became a Christian at the Vatican a few weeks ago. Some Muslims were upset that it was publicized, but they are not planning to behead him.

The other poster is correct when he describes Indonesia. I had the good fortune to live there for a while last year. It's the largest Muslim country in the world, and I experienced a culture as diverse and tolerant as any other. There is no Islamic "pope", and no one way of understanding Islam. If we insist on seeing Islam through our own lens we will project ideas of "orthodoxy" onto a religion that does not understand such concepts the way we do.

Some Indonesians are thrilled at the candidacy of Obama, because he could be the first American president with first-hand knowledge of their country, language, culture and religion. They know he is not a Muslim, and that's not the point. It's his exposure to their country that's important, and his willingness to listen to both sides of an issue. Many Muslims that I have spoken with feel the same way. What Luttwak has written is a case of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." In Indonesia, where Obama spent some years of his childhood, it is not uncommon for people to change their religious affiliation. I have met Indonesian Buddhists who were once Muslims, and Muslims who were once Christians, etc. No beheadings. And I was received everywhere with kindness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/13/2008
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First, the burden of proof is on the one making the accusation. If I say that you steal cars at night, it is up to me to prove it. Of course, just saying such a thing could be damaging to you.

Now, for a good look at how Obama's ancestory might be viewed by the Arab world:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-eteraz/obama-islam-smear-changes_b_101337.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 05/13/2008
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