Obama Muslim Smear Resurfaces: NYT Op-Ed Tags Obama As Muslim 'Apostate'

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First Posted: 05-12-08 05:15 PM   |   Updated: 06-25-08 06:18 PM

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For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' master plan to destroy America by giving their son a middle name that would come to be shared by an Iraqi dictator that no one had even heard of at the time of Barack's birth! After a while, Obama got shot of that mess and was accepted as a Christian. But then! It turned out that his preacher had said three or four things that people found objectionable, and it turned out that said preacher enjoyed all the attention he got more than he did serving his faith, so Obama had to labor to get shot of that controversy. Well, it's been a few weeks since the nation has pointedly moved on from that matter, so I guess it's time for the pendulum to swing back to the Obama-as-secret-Muslim argument.

Stepping up to fill that void is Edward Luttwak, a military strategist who apparently feels like he's got the background to start expounding on religious doctrines he's not familiar with in the New York Times. According to Luttwak, Obama's a Muslim and there's nothing he or anyone can do about it:

As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother's Christian background is irrelevant.


Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.

In other words, nuts to Obama's professed personal choice in faith! The only thing that keeps Obama from being a Muslim is the peculiar semantic trickery of "most Americans'" understanding.

Luttwak takes pains to say, "That an Obama presidency would cause such complications in our dealings with the Islamic world is not likely to be a major factor with American voters, and the implication is not that it should be." And that would be sufficient, I suppose, were it not for the great lengths he goes to in presenting these "complications" as things that sound like they might be a "major factor with American voters."

At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards. More broadly, most citizens of the Islamic world would be horrified by the fact of Senator Obama's conversion to Christianity once it became widely known -- as it would, no doubt, should he win the White House. This would compromise the ability of governments in Muslim nations to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism, as well as American efforts to export democracy and human rights abroad.

Allow me to translate from the original Luttwak: "I only have a faint idea what I'm talking about. But you voters should be really, really concerned. Just don't tell anyone it was me who suggested this!"

Of course, Luttwak's chiefest concern is also the most inane one:

With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings.

So there you have it. If Obama is elected, we will have to break with tradition and undertake the unprecedented step of ensuring he is not beheaded, stoned, or hanged by Islamic clerics.

For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' m...
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This irrelervant conversation proves that we Americans are the missing link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/13/2008
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 29 fans permalink

Couldn't have said it better myself -- thanks! What a mess of idiocy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 05/13/2008
- oogabooga I'm a Fan of oogabooga 9 fans permalink

These right-wing nutballs refuse to give up the swiftboating. They say he's a commie because he has a colleague who used to be one; he's a Moslem because his daddy once was; he's a racist because his church's preacher said something insecure white people disliked; he's a traitor because he shuns a flag pin from China; and he's a terrorist-lover because he wants to talk with Iran. Well, gee whiz righties. Your underlying premise is that Obama is a dope like Bush. Sorry. he actually can think for himself. He hardly needs to parrot the ideas of his preacher or colleagues. "I taught the Constitution for 10 years (at U. of Chicago), I respect the Constitution, I believe in the Constitution and I will obey the Constitution," is what Obama's repeats on the campaign trail. That's real patriotism righties. Keep your flag pins. I'll take a Constitution-lover any day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/13/2008

Obama's maternal grandmother raised him and taught him a, "working knowledge of all religions.­" I agree with this. The Buddhists have a tenet that says to respect all religions. Even though I am not into orthodoxy, I can understand the wisdom in this tenet.
I was raised Christian, but now am a Taoist. I can respect the teachings of Christ, while at the same time, not think of him as a deity. He becomes more accessible when viewed as a man rather than a male deity.
I like Taoism because there is no deity, no supreme "being." I never could buy into that whole old man in the sky, routine. That's just a device to keep people in line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/13/2008

This site needs better editors:

"After a while, Obama got shot of that mess ..."

and,

"Obama had to labor to get shot of that controversy"

If he hadn't repeated the error, it would be forgivable. But it isn't really terrific usage in any case, and misusing it needs noting. It's "got shut of", not "got shot of". Jesus!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 05/13/2008

"Coin brassy words at will, debase the coinage;
we're in an if-you-can­not-lick-t­hem-join age;
A slovinliness provides its own excuse age,
where usage overnight condones misusage,
Farewell, farewell to my beloved language,
Once English, now a vile orangutang­uage."

Ogden Nash, 1962.

Go Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/13/2008
- Bloggerrogr I'm a Fan of Bloggerrogr 144 fans permalink
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Great stuff, Ultra! I had almost forgotten how great Nash's rhymes could be!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 05/13/2008

"Coin brassy words at will, debase the coinage;
we're in an if-you-can­not-lick-t­hem-join age;
A slovinliness provides its own excuse age,
where usage overnight condones misusage;
Farewell, farewell to my beloved language,
once English, now a vile orangutang­uage."

--Ogden Nash, 1962.

Go Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/13/2008
- MrKINOKO I'm a Fan of MrKINOKO 11 fans permalink
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I believe that's just the way they would say "got out of..." in England, not a syntax error.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/13/2008
- LouisPWu I'm a Fan of LouisPWu 4 fans permalink

The very fact that a lot of voters will believe such outright fantasies about a candidate - especially after they went all out on his Christian Church and his pastor last week - writes volumes about the essential intellectual lameness of the average American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/13/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

I think this is just a challenge to reach out to these people. They have been Hoodwinked and Bamboozled by the politics of division for so long and they have lost all hope.
So I challenge everybody to reach out to someone and bring them alone on this journey. We do need them if we are going to change things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 05/13/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 429 fans permalink
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Amen, McPander. Us telling them how incredibly moronic they sound isn't going to change their vote.

We need to challenge them to look at what are realities, and to make a sound judgment from there.

(And if they don't, we'll tell them how incredibly moronic they are.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/13/2008
- orianna I'm a Fan of orianna 8 fans permalink

You know, Obama has become such a familiar face and name these days, I don't think of him as black anymore - now I just think of him as a great leader of the people ... As far as being Muslim... why, he doesn't claim to be one and if he was one, he'd have to claim he was... that's their religion and he'd be sacrilegious if he went around claiming to be a Christian.­....

Whereas, the GOP reminds me of the Pharisees.­.. always citing law and righteousness and power and fear to control the people.... Obama, like a true Christian cites values and helping the downcast..­.. we have a great fight coming on his America.. .it is historic and parallels nothing more than the Pharisees vs the true people of God

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/13/2008

What? He's black? I never noticed. I had no idea what everyone was talking about when they kept saying that he might become the first black president.­.. umm yeah...you­'ve reached enlightenment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/13/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

Please ignore any remarks that may seem to challenge your sincerity. I know that all supporters of Obama welcome your support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/13/2008
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Not too long ago I saw a documentry on Obama and his back ground. They went to Kenya...wh­ich is in Africa and not the Middle East, to his Father's family's village...­met his grandmother and other realitves.­..and discovered the Christian church in the village that the Obama family belonged to.

His father was an athiest...­not a Muslim. If any one cared to discover where the rumor came from that he was Muslim...g­oogle- Hillary email Obama Muslim. If you want to find out where the rumor came from that he went to a madrassah for school...w­hen it was a Catholic school, then a public school...g­oogle the same thing.

Obama's name is Arabic not Muslim. Arabic is a nationality, Muslim is a religion. There are as many (maybe more) Christians as Muslims in Kenya....b­ut it's sure a good smear aftwer 9-11. In Fact Barack is biblical/J­ewish/Semi­te and means Blessed.

Google or read his books...a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 05/13/2008

Thanks for the info. Small additional bit - Barack and Baruch (blessed in Hebrew) are simply variations of each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Thanks for all the good information. I will use it to clarify the silly crap I hear people sputtering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 05/13/2008

You Obamabots keep being lied to by your false prophet.

But is your reaction to begin to do your own long over due research on the man you have falling hopelessly in love with.

If any of you had carefully read or listened to(the MP3 are widely available) Obama's own two books, you will know that he was being raised practicing muslem while living in Indonesia. So the I was never a muslem argument his campaign made was just another lie. Several overseas newspapers long verified the evidence by visiting the records of his childhood schools.

Just like the mega whopper of a lie that the weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers is just a "English" professor that Barack knows from his Hyde Park neighborhood. Barack knows Ayers is a ultra radical Education professor because he worked with and for him over a 20 year period.

Nope, Nope Nope.

It is back in line for another dose of the Kool-aid and another hit on the Obama bong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Hey, Rush is on as we speak. You are wasting your time here when you could be listening and taking notes on what to do next to bring this country down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/13/2008
- cubs325 I'm a Fan of cubs325 16 fans permalink

i agree Obama is a secret agent for the islamic radicals, also a latent agent for the SDS weathermen, oh yes he also kills baby puppies - plz enough ridiculous propaganda

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/13/2008

Now, this, of course, is too ridiculous to comprehend! But let us have a reality check, please. Is it about a *SMEAR*? I do not think so. Obama was raised by two different muslim fathers and, apparently, according to Islam, the son of a muslim father is a muslim. If that son converts to another religion he is an apostate. And muslims do not look kindly upon apostates. Jews, similarly, are not too fond of apostates either. A son born out of a maternal jewish bloodline, a daughter too, for that matter, is and remains a jew. That applies even if he were to be the Pope! Then there is that little fact that early childhood education and influence is strong. Does that mean that we should suspect that Obama is a closet muslim, or that he has something up his sleeves? No, of course not. Ridiculous! But all this is NOT ridiculous PROPAGANDA. Obama was an unknown quantity, and before voting for him we ought to know all we should know. What is ridiculous is the cries of foul, foul, if we just dare to say, inquire about, or discuss anything with respect to Obama. For some reason Obama is above and beyond anything that applies to other earthlings. That is ostrich politics. You know, an ostrich sticks its head into the sand if it perceives danger. If it does not see danger, or hear danger, it does not exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/13/2008

Time for presidential punch. I'll drink Obama's kool-aid all day long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 05/13/2008
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OHYEEEAAAAAHHHH!
I think they should come out with a new flavor named after him,so when someone says that we've been "drinking his Kool-Aid",we can say,"Why,y­es.Yes we have...and it tastes good!"
ObamaBerry? BarackBerry? Obama Punch? Gobama Punch?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/13/2008
- NYC07 I'm a Fan of NYC07 66 fans permalink

The above post is proof that most Americans only use their computer for looking at porn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/13/2008

It's funny because it's true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/13/2008
- LouisPWu I'm a Fan of LouisPWu 4 fans permalink

You wrote, "If any of you had carefully read or listened to(the MP3 are widely available) Obama's own two books, you will know that he was being raised practicing muslem while living in Indonesia.­" I'm certainly not going to lend credence to anyone who can't spell MUSLIM. Why won't someone write a working IGNORANCE filter for computers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 05/13/2008

".........­..... that Americans are uneducated, self-centered, warmongers bent on destroying the world."


Gee, I wonder how they got that idea......­..........­..........­.......!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 05/13/2008
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That this argument is advanced, let alone that it gets any traction in this nation, is obscene.

It goes against the grain of what America is supposed to be out. It implies that if you are an American, you might be less than a full American, depending on where your ancestors came from. While this may have been the case for many waves of immigrants, it is not the idea that we strive for.

But there is a bit of sickly humorous irony here, too. The piece, written by someone who obviously is playing on the fear of Moslem's in general, is effectively suggesting that we should follow Islamic Law in the case of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 05/13/2008
- bola47 I'm a Fan of bola47 7 fans permalink
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in case you missed morning joe this morning, mika used obama's middle name while in a discussion. all of these subtle hints are disgusting. gobama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/13/2008

"would come to be shared by an Iraqi dictator that no one had even heard of at the time of Barack's birth!"

The above implies that we think Obama was named after Saddam's middle name. That's not what I think. He IS a muslim apostate. Giving up one religion for another is called an apostacy. I don't doubt Obama's christianity, but to say he wasn't influenced, early on in life by the muslim religion, is wrong.

This is what happens when people bring faith to their campaign. Americans are sick and tired of politicians, trying to get elected because of their particular faith. It is a blatant mixture of church and state to use one's religion in a political campaign. Obama thought his faith would be a big plus for him, candidate wise, but it blew up in his face. Just like the whole racial issue brought up by Obama. That too blew up in his face. This might be acceptable among "progressives," but it sure as hell won't be OK with the GOP and their paranoid supporters. They will have Obama looking like Malcolm X and Huey Newton, all rolled into one. Doesn't have to be true, the GOP supporters don't give a rat's ass about the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 05/13/2008

Obama didn't bring his faith into the campaign. The republican right wing ultra conservative religious idiots did! (Limbaugh, Hannity, et all) We're over it. We get it. You don't. The GOP has been renamed... Gimpy Old Party...

Gimpy is a cripple who sold lead-pencils in Market Street. His legs have been cut off almost to the hips, and he gets around on two little platforms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 05/13/2008

Obama went on a faith tour of the south, with a rabid homophobe, at that. He devotes an entire chapter in his book to faith. Don't tell me he never brought faith to his campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/13/2008
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Obama was never Muslim...h­is father was not Muslim...h­is grandmothers were never Muslim, His Mother was never Muslim....­HE WAS?IS NOT MUSLIM.
sheesh...c­an't people read?

He never used his religion..­.if he did provide link. NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

The other factor that seems to brand Obama as a Muslim is the belief that he took the oath of office on the Koran. Actually, the name of ther person who did this is Representative Keith Ellison, Democrat of Minnesota. This seems to have so many confused because they are both black men who took office about the same time. That's like suggesting that Jim Webb and George Bush have the same outlook on the war in Iraq because they were both Governors. Well, they are both white guys and held similar positions, so they must have the same beliefs, right?

No one ever went broke underestimating the inellectual laziness of a lot of our fellow Americans.­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 05/13/2008

For a muslim to swear an oath with his hand on the Bible is meaningless. I don't believe that particular bit of crapola about Obama. The idea is to swear by the deity of your religion. It means nothing to make promises to a deity that you don't follow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

I have no idea why more people don't grasp what you just said. If you are going to swear an oath, it would mean nothing unless you swore it on something you honor.

If I were an athiest, I would probablly swear on the honorable name of my parents to show that I meant to keep my word and do my best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 05/13/2008
- Purobi I'm a Fan of Purobi 13 fans permalink

I am an immigrant (legal one). Came here as a graduate student almost 26 years ago. I was and I still am surprised to find how few Americans can actually "think" and "read". People like you are minority. My dear adopted country has been stolen by lack of education and independent thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/13/2008

While we're on the subject of intellectual laziness, you might want to look up Jim Webb. I know he's the new Obama camp cause celebre, but he was never governor. He was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan and he barely won his Senate seat as a recent covert to the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

Believe it or not, I knew he was formerly a Republican. I knew he was in the Reagan administration. I also know that he has asked more tough questions about the Iraq war than almost any other senator. He "barely won" his Senate seat, but he did, didn't he.

Thank you, research guy, for the clarification, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 05/13/2008

Also keep in mind that the Koran that Rep. Ellison used to take the oath of office belonged to Thomas Jefferson. And, while I'm at it, that Hussein is also the name of the late King of Jordan.

Criticizing Sen. Obama for his middle name is like criticizing Charley Rose because he shares a name with Charles Manson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/13/2008
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As I understand it, during the time of Mohamet and immediately after, as the movement of Islam was spreading, the conquering armies would give the conquered the privilege of becoming a Moslem in which case they had to "fight" for Islam or you could remain, say, Christian or Jewish in which case you paid heavy taxes and had less rights.

In order to avert conversions for convenience it was established that the worst sin of all was to convert to Islam and then give it up afterwards. The death penalty was the sanction for apostasy of that sort.

I don't see where any of this has to do with Obama's story which is quite different. He was raised by Christians and chose to become a Christian as an adult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/13/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 429 fans permalink
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This is more a reflection on where we are as a country.

Did you realize that 9% of the electorate still believes he's muslim?

This has less to do with incompetent media, and is more a reflection on the fact that much of America is retarded.

I don't think we have a choice but to adopt Canada's suggestion where all of the cool states merge with them, and we leave Jesusland to fend for itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 05/13/2008
- glesslib I'm a Fan of glesslib 24 fans permalink

It has a LOT to do with incompetent media, though. I found out who took the oath of office on the Koran, one of the favorite Obama rumors, just by Googling that phrase. I have never heard one talking head clarify this by giving his hame. That's just sloppy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/13/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 429 fans permalink
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Anyone who wanted to know about it can find it. Anyone who wasn't necessarily interested in things like facts have no interest in learning. If you gave some dough-head a link with definitive proof, better yet, if you provided them with photos of Obama taking the oath with a bible, they'd get that much more angry that a muslim has his hand on the bible while taking the oath.

It's discouraging, but there's an end. Give it about 8,000 years, and the herd will be thinned a la Darwin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 05/13/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

It is sad, I wish Obama would talk about the digital divide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/13/2008

Um, I don't think there are many Canadian suggesting that your "cool" states merge with us. That is more like wishful thinking by some Americans. BTW, Canada has its own maddening set of flaws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/13/2008
- NYC07 I'm a Fan of NYC07 66 fans permalink

New motto for the NYT : " The New York Times , Where the Idiots come home to roost"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 05/13/2008
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