Rumsfeld On 2006 Election: "The Correction For That...Is An Attack"

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First Posted: 05-13-08 01:55 PM   |   Updated: 05-21-08 05:12 AM

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An ongoing exploration of the documents related to the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program has unearthed a clip of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld suggesting that America, having voted the Democrats back into Congressional power, could benefit from suffering another terrorist attack, and doing so in the presence of the very same military analysts who went on to provide commentary and analysis of the Iraq War.

As documented by Newsvine, it all went down at a valedictory luncheon Rumsfeld hosted for those analysts on December 12, 2006. Many of the "message force multipliers" named in the original New York Times piece were in attendance, including David L. Grange, Donald W. Sheppard, James Marks, Rick Francona, Wayne Downing, and Robert H. Scales, Jr. They were treated to an extraordinary conversation (Newsvine has highlights, the hour-long clip of which can be found here) with Rumsfeld, that included many jaw-dropping moments, such as Rumsfeld admitting that in Iraq, the U.S. "can't lose militarily, but...can't win by military means alone," an agreement that Iraq could use a Syngman Rhee-type dictator (because that's what democracy smells like!), and a lengthy passage where Rumsfeld jokingly offers a bottle of champagne to anyone who could kill Moqtada al Sadr. You sure don't see too many people joking on al Sadr these days!

But by far the most extraordinary part of this luncheon is the antipathy the gathered members exhibit toward the American people for having the temerity to vote the Democrats back into power. When Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans the lack of "sympathetic ears" on Capitol Hill, Rumsfeld offers that the American people lack "the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats." What's to be done? According to Rumsfeld, "The correction for that, I suppose, is [another] attack."

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there.


RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less...

Less than a week ago, the Department of Defense did a document dump on their program to use retired military analysts as surrogates on network and cable news to pimp the administration line on the Iraq War - something we now know they did on at least 4,500 occasions. Over at TalkingPointsMemo, a thread has been opened for those who want to sift through the material and highlight key discoveries.

So far, dedicated TPM readers have unearthed a number of noteworthy finds, of which this audio recording of this luncheon is perhaps the most astounding.

An ongoing exploration of the documents related to the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program has unearthed a clip of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld suggesting that America, having v...
An ongoing exploration of the documents related to the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program has unearthed a clip of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld suggesting that America, having v...
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- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 81 fans permalink
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Dr. Strangelove speaks out.

Why do NeoCons think of Democrats as a foreign army trying to take over the US? Why do they have such little respect for Democracy that they want Americans to think that there is only one viable party, no matter how corrupt, inept or insane that party may act?

As much as I loathe Republicans today, I want them to become a viable choice for the US again. Even if I support Democrats today, the Democratic Party would mutate into something unbareable without a viable alternative. Rumsfeld is really preaching dictatorship and one party rule based on fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/13/2008
- shengirl I'm a Fan of shengirl 10 fans permalink

Because they're fascists. Anybody who has a different opinion from a fascist is not an adversary, a rival, they're an enemy who must be obliterated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/13/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 109 fans permalink
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It took some work, but Rummy makes the Communists in Beijing look really good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/13/2008
- syllepsis I'm a Fan of syllepsis 24 fans permalink

You mean conservatives. You don't mean Republicans.
There will always be conservatives. But fpr God's sake, no more Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/13/2008

wow that is soooooo true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/13/2008

Could have something to do with the way the Democrats tried to steal a national election in 2000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 05/13/2008
- JHancock I'm a Fan of JHancock 15 fans permalink
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You neo-NAZI fascist trolls are a scream. You really do live in your own non-reality based Asylum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 05/13/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment.

One would think with all the gathering doom out there we would have seen the terror alert level change from yellow to orange a few times since 2004. Of course, we haven't seen hide nor hair of that multicolored bullshit barometer in 4 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/13/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

No kidding! That whole line of logic is flawed. Seems to me these extremists accomplished exactly what they set out to do. Drain us of our money, decimate our constitution and keep us mired in a war that kills our young people, not just in Iraq but here in the U.S. (Average of 18 Iraq veterans a day committing suicide). Sounds like this administration is guilty of collusion, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/13/2008

Unf*&king Believable
This man belongs in jail.
He is a raving lunatic.



A Blue Star Mom

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/13/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

Its really saddening all the crimes we see that will go unpunished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- bayviking I'm a Fan of bayviking 32 fans permalink

Rummy is still onto the Republican talking points after fucking up BushCo's illegal Iraqi aggression.

The pubs can't seem to remember that there have been about (28) domestic terrorist attacks since 9-11. They are certain that if they repeat their lies frequently, most people will buy into their bullshit.

Anthrax Attack, Teen Cessna into a Florida highrise, Mohammad and Malvo, Moslem assault weapon attack on the LA ElAl Ticket counter, Bosnian Moslem attack of Trolley Square in Salt Lake City.....a­nd on and on

Our incompetent corrupt leaders don't care how many lives they destroy or dollars they to fulfill their Israeli agenda. Its just more money in the bank for their Military Industrial Complex Cronies. We are saddled with the worlds most expensive, ineffective weapons. They didn't work on 9-11.

Charlie used Afghans to beat Russia for about $1 Billion. These clowns are losing more than that every day. Yet, they continue to tell us we need them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/13/2008
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I saw a bumper sticker that said, "I never thought I'd miss Nixon" and thought,

If you thought Rummy & Cheney were bad, wait 'til Addington & Feith rule US!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/13/2008
- LaurieLee I'm a Fan of LaurieLee 2 fans permalink

Did you see the traitor Feith on The Daily Show last night? He is the @&%$&^% stupidest man in the world, it's true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 05/13/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

He's a lying lawyer for a lying, criminal administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/13/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 391 fans permalink
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Rumsfeld, Cheney and Rove all got their start in the Nixon administration. Where do you think the "Unitary Executive" concept came from? Remember the "Imperial Presidency"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/13/2008

The concept of an "Imperial Presidency," was envisioned long before Nixon. Consider that Nixon's political career came into being because Prescott Bush advertised for someone who would run against one of his political opponents back in the early to mid-1950s. Nixon responded to the ad and the rest is, as they say, history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/13/2008
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Spirited Dona says-- beyond, belief, that Rum is looking for an attack, a positive attack to this country; to show us not to vote a democratic senate. did he criticize Wright?
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It will take your mind off of this!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 05/13/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/13/2008
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 19 fans permalink

I heard Rumsfeld was going to be made a "Hoover Fellow." Many of the professors and students protested about this and I haven't heard much about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/13/2008
- Mr Grey I'm a Fan of Mr Grey 5 fans permalink

I think all the Rethuglicans need a few months in Gitmo as a warm up to their trials for crimes and misdemeanors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/13/2008

I seriously think that french neoconservative president Nicolas Sarkozy whose brother OLiver has Carlyle Group connection would protect every former member of Bush administration

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- syllepsis I'm a Fan of syllepsis 24 fans permalink

Sarkozy's latest approval ratings are 32 percent. Doesn't augur well for said war criminals' long-term prospects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/13/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 633 fans permalink
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I could go along nicely along through life without ever seeing that son of a bitches smirking face ever again. Huffy, don't ever post that mug again, unless the story is about his war crimes trial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/13/2008

I couldn't be more in agreement. Have him occupy a gitmo cage and provide a steady aspartame diet.

Gitmo and aspartame are among Rumsefeld's many crime. Rumsfeld was on President Reagan's transition team and a day after taking office appointed Hayes. No FDA Commissioner in the previous sixteen years had allowed aspartame on the market.

http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive15.htm

Is there no end to these so called "people?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/13/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 633 fans permalink
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Thanks for the link, a disgusting pig he is .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/13/2008

We should have a web site up with him using photoshop in Gitmo, like a live web cam and a countdown until 2099

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 05/13/2008
- Leda I'm a Fan of Leda 9 fans permalink

Hey it worked for the Repugs before.. don't put Anything past them...
not even 911....
Bush was so unpopular until 911-then he became our big protector.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/13/2008
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Somebody explain to me how someone becomes our "big protector" due to the worst attack ever on American soil happening on his watch.

If 911 had happened on Clinton's watch, Clinton would've been run out of the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 05/13/2008
- Jetling I'm a Fan of Jetling 5 fans permalink

Read Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine". It's not the first tme it's happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/13/2008
- reggieb I'm a Fan of reggieb 83 fans permalink

look at drudge's headline. bush is "worried" about another attack on us soil......­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/13/2008

... So he can cancel this Presidential election and hold onto power as long as the gullible Kool-Aid drinkers will let him. Sick fearmongering power-hungry wackos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 05/13/2008
- SarahZim I'm a Fan of SarahZim 7 fans permalink

I mentioned this theory floating out there about the possibility of Bush canceling the election because of a terror threat to my husband. He said if that happened then Bush would find out the real purpose of the 2nd amendment . This was my husband, a liberal, over educated science geek, so I want to believe that that could never happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/13/2008
- munkii I'm a Fan of munkii 2 fans permalink

nothing new about this "theory", it's been around since early 2007

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 05/13/2008
- RobtBrock I'm a Fan of RobtBrock 6 fans permalink

If Bush were really worried then he might work more than three hours per day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 05/13/2008

A war crimes trial for Bush and company needs to begin immediately after Bush leaves office in January. I have had with this administration's arrogance and reckless disregard for the lives of Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/13/2008
- SarahZim I'm a Fan of SarahZim 7 fans permalink

Not too mention the crimes against the constitution. Al Gore illuminated it perfectly. If an administration had tried to do that in the youth of the constitution they would be HANGED. How dare they do that, shame on us all for being so numb to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 05/13/2008

In an interview in the early 1990s, Bush Sr. said this (paraphrase): If the American knew just what we have done to them, they would chase us down in the streets and lynch us.

The goal of a group of elitists for at least the last century has always been world domination. And these people have the means and the power. The don't like the "national identity" concept, they want to go back to "class identity." They are the enemies of democracy and we must stop them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/13/2008
- edsel I'm a Fan of edsel 4 fans permalink

If I'm not mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong we were attacked when Bush was in office. I don't believe these people think that they can keep us safer because there in the majority. What a f-----g lug nut

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 05/13/2008
- PollyTics I'm a Fan of PollyTics 7 fans permalink
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I hate to admit this, but I am not surprised that Rumsfeld AND the others in this administration use fear and the threat of an attack as reason enough to persuade voters to "their vision" of America. It's frightening to assess that these folks have the power to do what they may to change the course in an election, nor am I surprised that so many feel that they may have already done so in 9/11. While I was never one who believed they "arrange" 9/11 to take place, I do believe they may consider such a thing to further their own power and control in this world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/13/2008
- Melizzy I'm a Fan of Melizzy 18 fans permalink

I know it's hard for most people to fathom, but if you research controlled demolitions and really look at the footage from 9/11, it's very clear that all THREE of those buildings were brought down by verifiable controlled demolition techniques. Google it and ask any architect you know about it. It's absolutely chilling. So then it's a question of who set the charges inside the buildings. Now THAT is yet to be shown. But these comments from Rumsfeld do not surprise me one bit. I really hope Barack Obama is our next president and he launches full investigations into all the shady and immoral actions of this administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/13/2008

Sorry -- I'm an Obama supporter too -- but that idea is pretty crackpot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/13/2008

Yay, the morons have arrived.
One has to ignore a mountain of evidence to buy into the 911 conspiracy theories. Once you stop reading the tripe and start asking hard questions, that's when the 'troofer' bullshit becomes clear. I'm sorry to mock you 'true believers', but you're just plain gullible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/13/2008
- ejay579 I'm a Fan of ejay579 9 fans permalink
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What is not difficult for me to fathom is this pack of pricks sitting on intelligence about the impending attack on the WTC and deciding to do nothing because they figured they could use to scare the shit out of America and implement their idea of a new world order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/13/2008
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