West Virginia Exit Polls: Early Highlights

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A West Virginia voter enters the polls at City Hall in South Charleston, W.Va. Tuesday, May 13, 2008.(AP Photo/Bob Bird)

Highlights from preliminary results of exit polls in the West Virginia Democratic primary on Tuesday. The polls were conducted for The Associated Press and television networks:

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THE BILL CLINTON FACTOR

Three quarters of Hillary Rodham Clinton voters said Bill Clinton's campaigning was important to their vote. More than half of Barack Obama voters said the former president's campaigning was of little or no importance.

THE REV. WRIGHT FACTOR

Two in 10 voters said Obama shares the views of his fiery former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, "a lot" and three in 10 said Obama shares Wright's views "somewhat." Nearly a quarter said Obama shares Wright's views "not much" and a quarter said the candidate doesn't share his one-time preacher's views at all.

GAS TAX HOLIDAY

Seven in 10 Hillary Clinton voters supported her idea to suspend the federal gas tax for the summer. Obama opposes the plan and a little more than half of his voters called it a bad idea.

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ECONOMIC WORRIES

More than six in 10 voters picked the economy from three choices as the most important issue facing the country. About one in five picked the Iraq war.

Clinton voters were more likely than Obama backers to say the economy was hurting their families a lot. Half of Clinton voters said the current recession or economic slowdown has affected them and their families a great deal. About three in 10 Obama voters said the slowdown has affected them a great deal and more than half said it affected them somewhat.

RACE, GENDER AS VOTING FACTORS

One in four Clinton voters and about one in 10 Obama voters said race was an important factor in their vote.

About one in five Clinton voters said gender was an important factor in their vote. Nearly as many Obama voters said that.

CHANGE VS. EXPERIENCE

As in earlier primaries, most Obama voters said the candidate quality that mattered most to their vote was that he can bring about needed change _ a signature of his campaign. A third of Clinton voters cited experience but as many picked change.

UNFAIR CAMPAIGNING

As in other states, West Virginia Democratic primary voters were more likely to accuse Clinton than Obama of unfair campaigning. Even half of Clinton's own voters said she campaigned unfairly, as did three-quarters of Obama backers. Three in 10 Obama voters said their own candidate campaigned unfairly while more than half of them said Clinton hit below the belt.

COMMANDER IN CHIEF

About one in 10 Obama voters acknowledged Clinton as more qualified to be commander in chief. Very few Clinton voters said that of Obama.

LOOKING AHEAD TO THE END OF THE NOMINATION FIGHT ...

If they had to choose, seven in 10 voters said they'd prefer that their candidate wins the Democratic presidential nomination, even if the race continues for months. A quarter said they'd prefer the race ends as soon as possible, even if their candidate loses the nomination.

... AND LOOKING AHEAD TO NOVEMBER

Barely a third of Clinton supporters say they'd vote for Obama over John McCain in a November matchup. As many claim they'd vote for Republican John McCain and a quarter said they would not vote for president. If that horse race were Clinton vs. McCain, half of Obama backers say they'd vote for Clinton, about three in 10 say they'd back McCain and the rest would stay home.

DEMOGRAPHIC HIGHLIGHTS

As expected, roughly 95 percent of West Virginia Democratic primary voters were white. Half of voters were from rural areas.

It was one of the oldest electorates among 31 Democratic primaries with exit polls to date, with four in 10 over age 60. The only other states with somewhat similar numbers were Arkansas, Arizona, New Mexico and Oklahoma _ and Hillary Clinton won all four states.

It also was the electorate with the highest proportion _ just about seven in 10 _ of people who lack a college degree thus far this primary season. The same held true for whites without a college degree _ again, historically a strong Clinton group.

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Preliminary results from exit polling by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International for The Associated Press and television networks. Partial samples of 1,016 voters in 30 precincts around in West Virginia; sampling error plus or minus 4 points.

Highlights from preliminary results of exit polls in the West Virginia Democratic primary on Tuesday. The polls were conducted for The Associated Press and television networks: ___...
Highlights from preliminary results of exit polls in the West Virginia Democratic primary on Tuesday. The polls were conducted for The Associated Press and television networks: ___...
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- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Exit polling reportedly showed that 81% of those white people voting for hillary said that race mattered to them! The only antidote Obama has to insure his nomination is millions of new, progressive "educated" voter registrants ... he'll sweep many states demonstrating the educated reasoning of a new and better america.

I guess most believe that Dr. King was just a one liner, "I have A Dream" ... not ... Dr. King, on the very night before his murder he stated in a sermon "Why America May Go to Hell!" I was very young then ... now, I get it! Dr. King said that most americans are unconsciously racists!

However, some say that Dr. King's view of america was always told with a hopeful edge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 05/14/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Will the question ever be asked why hillary can't get the african american vote. why is it that obama is now responsible for 81% of WV exit polling reflecting "race" matters to those voting for hillary???

is he being told that his skin is THE ISSUE?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/14/2008
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Yep. If you listen to the pundits, the racism that pervades 'blue collar' America is Obama's problem. Go figure, others' racism is HIS problem ... okie dokie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 05/14/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

It's astounding!! Bill plows through every american state highly populated, "so-called" hard-working white americans only preaching racist code (and sometimes blatant) and that's somehow obama's mountain!

I actually (stupid) me thought we had grown as a nation just a little bit!

Although as reported WV is mostly "uneducated"!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Wait a minute...Hillary's whole argument about how Obama might not carry the swing states in a general election, rests on this: that he didn't carry them in the primaries. But as we know, voters don't always vote the same way in a general election as they do in a primary---and that can be applied to Hillary as well! What makes her so sure that all the people who have voted for her in these primaries, will vote for her again in November? There could be as much risk in selecting her as the nominee as she wants the superdelegates to think there is in selecting Obama as the same. She is trying to snow the superdelegates with an argument that isn't that strong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 05/14/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Well I was going to stay despite the posting problem but it's beginning to drive me potty.
I wish you a good night, a Oyasumi nasai and a Gute Nacht too. Chins up, stay safe.
See you later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 05/14/2008
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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I'm betting it's a traffic-related glitch. My favorite site screw-up was several weeks ago, when the first page of the comments repeated itself three or four times. Huff-Po is paying the price for popularity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 05/14/2008
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Look people are going to hate me for this, and I may hate myself for it. I cannot stand this Clinton character. If she is included on the tickect --- da-mnation I cannot bring myself to declare it. Let it suffice that I do not want her to have anything to do with Obama's ticket or campaign I will SERIOUSLY reconsider my decision.

If this is what American politics is at present, and I have been involved in it for twenty four years, I do not want to have anything to do with it anymore. I suppose I must attribute this to watching any of the MSM again. With her on the ticket the election is lost. She has way to much baggage, it will bring out about every rethug ( I cannot blame them at this point.) Look at her negatives for God's sake. I am sick of politics as usual. I can swallow any pride and work for a Fortune 100 again for a couple of months, get a quick 20k and leave this doomed country. I've reached my limit!!!!! This is not what I was taught in school regarding what America is and should be. I will be content to start a small family somewhere where we either live in peace or are annihilated with the rest of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 05/14/2008
- anons I'm a Fan of anons 4 fans permalink

The number one problem with Clinton being on the ticket for me is that it hits Obama at one of his weaknesses, which is also his strength- he hasn't been in washington long.

If Hillary gets anywhere near the white house, her and her husband will run shit because they wield more power than he does- Obama becomes a sheep amongst wolves then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/14/2008
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I couldn't agree more. Bill had a huge part to play with how we got here today. I voted for the man twice. It seems as though I wasn't paying much attention at the time. I was going through several levels of personal maturing/ Getting most of the news from CNN, and about the only voices of dissent were coming from Rethugs who were off course lying about everything under the sun.

Then I started doing computer programming contracts for Fortune 100 in '95. I was coming into companies that were down sizing. I was seeing people who worked with commitment for twenty years and being thrown to the side. I was making 8 times most of the employees there on the factory floor, and I felt what I did was much easier. Made me feel like crap.

Anyway over the next decade I saw what outsourcing and profit driven agendas were doing to America. Didscovered this was done with major aid of the Clinton machine. We were nothing but pawns in their selfish little world. And I believed him when I barely ever beleive a politician.

They will do anyting and I do mean anything for themselves. This race bating BS and the rest of Her/their campaign just undersores it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 05/14/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Let's wait and see what happens by june. Please don't do anything desperate
just yet. We've stood it out this long, we can stick it out until then I'm sure.
Do something nice for yourself and get away from the news, newspapers and
the crazies taking up too much space on the TV. You will feel better after a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Listen to Kalima. Don't watch the news for a fortnight. I've done that, and my depression is just lifted away and I get a whole new outlook. The news about politics can drag you down, for news outlets have an agenda, just as individuals do; and because of that they are often unfair and they even lie. I know what you mean about Hillary, but Kalima is right: it will be over soon. In my experience, the Clintons have a way of just wearing people out, for they will never let go. But this time they will have to. If I am wrong, you will survive, we all will--and live to vote another day. The MSM is not God, it only thinks it is---and you obviously are a person of independent thought, not gullible, not vulnerable to propaganda. Don't go just yet. OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/14/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Thank you abby and yes, this works for me every time and not just in
politics either. Get away from whatever it is that is bringing you down,
if for some reason you can't do it physically then try to do it mentally.
Try long walks in quiet places, listening to your favourite music or just
taking long baths or saunas. For me it's closing the curtains, lighting a
candle, burning my favourite incense while cuddling of of my 6 cats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Take a look at this Kos diary, Cocteaus, it might cheer you up and give you renewed perspective, I know it did that for me. Here's the link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/13/20401/9789/544/515069
Abby

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 05/14/2008
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(3 of 3)
The argument that allowing everyone else to vote and holding back the SD pledging is turning into a bunch of scared pols tring to protect whatever power they might have left before Nov.

But yes the answer is to turn of the darn tv again. And do what i can to help Obama and our country. But I will not live in this country with a Clinton in the white house or maybe even with her as Majority leader. I don't think it will happen, but then again she is evil, blind ambition, and greed personified so it is still possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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I'm not much for conspiracy theories---although I'm not among those who think that if a theory is the conspiracy type, it must be false, either. What I am wondering is if we have been set up, we who support Obama. Suddenly everyone was using the word 'inevitable', not about Hillary but about Obama. It ruined Hillary, as we know. I now wonder if it will ruin Obama. The MSM knew it ruined Hillary, maybe those in the MSM who are biased toward her, hoped it would ruin Obama too.
I doubt this, I just raise it as a possibility. One thing I know: overconfidence is dangerous---and many Obama supporters have been talking as if it is, yes, inevitable that he is the nominee. My Dad used to say that declaring victory too soon was a fast way to defeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 05/14/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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it's more than that, EVERYONE is SICK of the CLINTONS!!
...they have had their time, time to refresh and MOVE OVER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 05/14/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Music to my ears, if only..............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 05/14/2008
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MSM;s method of grabbing ratings for as long as possible is the simplest explanation. But I seem to be losing my bearings -- what do I know at this point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 05/14/2008
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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The press declared Obama the likely winner more than two months ago. Then he became the winner. Now he's back to probable winner.

Either the media is pulling something, or those folks are not entirely sure of how our system works. But it's their job to know....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 05/14/2008
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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Hm. Actually, the MSM did the reverse--it forecast doom for Hillary, and has been doing so in a big way since the latter part of February. Prior to that, we had yakking TV heads making sarcastic comments about "Queen Hillary" and her alleged nerve and hubris. In the absence of the media repeating that Hillary is toast, she very probably would have done much better--as in, better than Obama. That's what the media didn't want. As it stands, it's nothing less than incredible that she's done so well against Obama (something that pisses off our almighty press). Had Hillary not done as well as she had, Obama would have won the required no. of delegate votes and, with them, the nomination.

The press has worked overtime to confuse voters in regard to whether or not Obama has won, and exactly what "numbers" are needed to win the nomination. Their elementary Arithmetic (sorry, "math") is based on wishful thinking. It also gives Obamites an insult to toss at any HRC supporters who dare to question the rumor mill. (E.g., we don't care for "math.")

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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I meant long before February, I meant all last year. Lots of the news I watched in 2007 seemed to assume she wouldn't have any real competition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 05/14/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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Zanti, It's not about the "Math"

It's about the fact that the Clintons' have shown their true colors

during this campaign disappointing many former supporters.

The largest factor is that we have a much better candidate in Obama, otherwise

we would support her over McCain.

The only math that matters right now is how far in debt she is willing to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 05/14/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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British Columbia is beautiful

great sailing out out Victoria

nice educated people.....

I'm just saying........

It's alway good to have an escape plan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 05/14/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 607 fans permalink
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I agree that we shouldn't be overly confident, but Clinton was the "inevitable nominee" before the primary even began and before the first election was even held. It was a delusion. Obama, on the other hand, has become the "inevitable nominee" based on the reality that he is leading in all of the metrics that will determine the nomination and on the very realistic unlikelihood of Senator Clinton being able to overtake his lead or to take it away from him through the super delegates.

The only way the "inevitable" concept can hurt Obama is if his supporters are so confident that they don't come out to vote! So, while I agree that we should not be too presumptuous, especially knowing the Clintons, I believe we have every reason and right to anticipate Senator Obama's nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Yes, but what about the independents and cross overs who haven't yet decided? Lots of voters are psychologically drawn to the underdog, and if Hillary is now portrayed as the underdog and Obama as The Inevitable One...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 05/14/2008
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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You mention " the very realistic unlikelihood of Senator Clinton being able to overtake his lead or to take it away from him through the super delegates."

This is too circular, mainly because Obama's lead, at least as reported by the media, INCLUDES the SD vote. See what I mean?

The press is lying when it insists we know the results already. We don't. They're managing that lie primarily via superdelegate vote counts. Any meaningful predictions have to be based on the "numbers" as they stand PRIOR to the convention. Once we start projecting and mixing those projections into our math, we may as well be using Tarot cards, imo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 05/14/2008
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Let's take a deep breath. I don't know anyone that supports Obama that is taking this thing for granite. Look at this situation... Obama is giving the Democratic Party establishment a run for it's money (literally). He's taking on the Clinton's. He's changing the face of politics. He's motivating people. He raising money like no one has ever done before. This is pretty amazing and I think most people including myself looks at this and says today was a good day and move on. This should not be easy, this task is exceptionally hard. The MSM can spin Obama's problems any which way they want but people are making the numbers speak. Overconfidence isn't in the vocabulary of an Obama supporter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 05/14/2008
- RThM I'm a Fan of RThM 4 fans permalink

Hey everybody, the REAL victory party's in Mississippi. Meet you there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- anons I'm a Fan of anons 4 fans permalink

Obama supporters have been painted as cultists for the longest time..but

what do you call people who cheer and support a woman who rallies you to a lost cause then asks money-from her working class base, the only people she's got left and the ones suffering the most- for that lost cause which will IN FACT go toward her debt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/13/2008

The Republicans are losing their base!!! Doesn't anyone care about the big picture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 05/13/2008
- anons I'm a Fan of anons 4 fans permalink

Just had to vent, point taken BUT...

Losing their base on account of who and what is that base gonna do in the general??
Why do people keep pretending like we dont have another 6 months..6!! do you know how much shit is gonna change by then? The big picture is impossible to see cause it never stays still

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/13/2008
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 27 fans permalink

A kid sold his bike to help fund her hopeless campaign.

That just about says it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/13/2008
- anons I'm a Fan of anons 4 fans permalink

i know! i can't believe she actually said that!!
that kid is kickin his parents in the shins right now for making him do that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/13/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 38 fans permalink
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that kid should sell his shoes and send the money to Mark Penn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/13/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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That kid's parents should be ashamed of themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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To use children like that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 05/14/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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Kalima, and anyone else having trouble with the Reply button---they might be trying to limit the number of times that the same two posters can reply to each other. Something makes me think so, I could be wrong...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 05/13/2008
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 15 fans permalink
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It appears to be consistent. After 4 tiers of comments, no more comments can be made. You'll have to copy/paste and start a new comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/13/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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The only reason I can think of for them to limit the amount of replies between the same two posters, is to (1)discourage cyber fights, and (2) discourage two posters from simply taking over a thread (even when not fighting).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 05/13/2008

Um...we already figured that out, abby...but it doesn't happen on all the threads, that's what is so wierd about it !!! At least it wasn't earlier today.

Keep telling the tech people there is a problem...they'll get so sick of us, they'll fix it !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/13/2008
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Is it just me or does anyone else wish that some of the articles would include the moderation rules that will be used with that particular article? I at times like the rules or the system to be spelled out clearly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 05/13/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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That's hardly fair are we just supposed to argue with the posters we disagree with?
I answered you about the cell phone post, halfway down the page. I'm getting dizzy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/13/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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I think it's time to bring in the police.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 05/13/2008

Ok ...People...

Earlier today I suggested we bring this race to an end..I got 2 "I'm with ya's" and a whole mess of people sleeping through the day. Here's my proposal...

Obama needs about 150 delegates to be the "presumptive nominee", correct ???

If your Governor is Democrat....
If your Senator is Democrat...
If your Rep in Congress is a Democrat...

Call them...email them...tell them as a constituent you urge them to publicly support Sen. Obama !!

You mean to tell me we can't between all the bloggers here, come up with 150 super delegates to voice their support ???

Oh - One person today told me "the SD's will come out in spurts. For 150 SD's to all come out at once would humiliate Hillary Clinton !!"

HUH ??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 05/13/2008
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 27 fans permalink

I said that, because it would be rather humiliating to have that many superdelegates come out for Obama (and against Hillary) at one time, and I don't think that that's Obama's style.

But after reading news stories (and posts on this site) about the race baiting Bill Clinton has done in West Virginia, I no longer care.

Humiliate away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 05/13/2008
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Any links? I've somehow missed them but certainly believe it happened/.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 05/13/2008
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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Neither Obama nor Hillary can win a sufficient number of delegate votes (not counting promised SD votes) to win the nomination. The decision will therefore have to be made at the convention. That's why the media and the Obama campaign (a very tight duo) have been insisting for the past two months that Hillary may as well get the hell out--they want Obama to be the only one left. Such is the threat she poses to him. Such is the CLOSENESS of the race.

I don't know what all this business is of SDs coming out ahead of the convention and declaring, but the fact remains that the final say will be had AT THE CONVENTION. At which point, the SD votes will count.

And not before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 05/13/2008
- McFlipFlop I'm a Fan of McFlipFlop 15 fans permalink
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Can you say "Presumptive Nominee"? What do you think McCain's title is right now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 05/13/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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Will you please give me a scenario where Hillary can win, and I promise to shut up!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 05/13/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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Here's a web site that makes that very thing to do easy... push them to commit!!
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 05/13/2008

Lobbying is bull...People want to sit on their thumbs, and just let it happen as it happens !!!

You forget.....

WE THE PEOPLE !!!!!!

I, personally, have contact with my Congressman, and I called his local office today, and I emailed him !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 268 fans permalink
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kevinseven---I can't reply, below, to your reply to my reply, because the Reply tab has gone missing again. All I wanted to say was: what ARE you talking about? What 'test'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 05/13/2008

Sorry, abby, that was a reply to my question to kev !!!

Wish HuffPo would straighten this reply crap out !!!

Anyway, kev, I emailed you...never heard back. Just wanted you to know & cuz I was curious !!!

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 05/13/2008

Hey I'm all about giving Hillary her due tonight she won! BUT, BUT I'm not going to let this current media spin I just heard that's starting take shape with out saying something -- which is ONCE AGAIN they are attempting to move the goal post for Obama. I just listened to Pat Buchanna screaming about how Obama has to prove he can do better among white voters to prove he can win-- now I think we all know why he didn't have a reasonable outcome in WV -- as does Buchanna. Unless Obama is willing to bleach himself their is only so much he can do among some of these not so liberal thinking voters. But notice they don't mention the states where he won like Iowa, ID and othesr with a majority of white people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 05/13/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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Too late to bleach himself, Hillary supporters are already brainwashed, they think she can win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 05/13/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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she can't go on forever broke!

Obama's got his money from "real donors" that REALLY want a change, "good" has to prevail in the end here, IT HAS TOO, or I will have lost hope!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 05/13/2008
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Buchanan has been driving this disingenuous argument all month! He insists that Senator Obama is "weak" because he can't change the hearts of racists! Obama is doing very well among white voters who can see beyond the color of his skin, and without whom he would not be leading in this election. But Buchanan is speaking from his own racist perspective when he makes this argument. People who are placed in a position to express their opinions, as Buchanan is, have a tendency get a big head (literally and figuratively), and begin to believe that their opinion really matters and that everyone thinks like they do. Among the other things I've noticed is that they never ask why Hillary cannot win the African American vote or how she can win in the general without them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 05/13/2008

Might want to ask the question why Hilary didn't take Obama's call congratulating her on her victory, but she did take McCains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 05/13/2008
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How do you know that? Just curious---who reported it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 05/13/2008

It was on here earlier tonight...when Obama called to speak to Hillary, she "wasn't there" !!!

I think MSNBC said it...I could be wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 05/13/2008
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Bubba blocked his number.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/13/2008
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I know this huge win it tough on you Obama supporters. Just give us Hillary supporters a little celebration time. Come on, where's your good loser role modeling? Let's hear some... go hillary, way to go hill, we're with you sister, woo hoo. I'll start you off..

Way to Go Hillary!! Take it all the way to the white house!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 05/13/2008
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I'm not against giving you that time, I know how chuffed I'd be if Obama had won with a margin like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 05/13/2008
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Such margins he has indeed had......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 05/13/2008
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Go away Hillary.

You are crushing the Democratic party.

Stop draining the party's coffers. End your egotistical and pointless chase of the nomination.

Obama is the nominee.

Oh, congratulations of being the preferred candidate of poorly educated older white people. That must really make you proud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 05/13/2008
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Way to go Hillary, and I DO mean that!

And I will restrain myself from further comments, except to say that I hope you will be with us when Senator Obama takes it all the way to the White House.

OBAMA 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 05/13/2008
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Of course it was huge, no one expected an Obama win..Now will you encourage her to bow out while she's on top? We knew the rednecks wouldn't vote for the black guy. I think you're going a little too far with the White House thing..WAY TO GO HILLARY!!!! Ok, I congratulated her, now let's get back to reality. SHE CAN'T WIN THIS THING!!! Might as well get out while she's on top. Puerto Rico is not going to help..by the way, believe it or not Obama picked up 6 delegates in WV!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 05/13/2008
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This was anything but tough on me. It was her speech that i found hard to swallow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 05/13/2008
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I am so glad old people, I am one, are on the way out. Younger generations are smarter, more open minded, well informed, and very involved. They don't see color, or gender. I hope Obama makes his number on priority: EDUCATION. We cannot risk another wave of well meaning, but uneducated citizens and voters. I long for the day when everybody can see spin, and calculation, and not be fooled by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 05/13/2008
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rosal, that same conversation has been going on ALL over today, lets these youngen's change the world like we once tried, they have our support!

Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 05/13/2008
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THank you, I'm a young voter, new voter and the most important thing to me is EDUCATION. All of America's problems, as far as i'm concerned, can be traced back to our eroding educational system. Do you know your history, do you know what your govt is doing and has done in the past, do you know how to manage your finances?

I never understand why a capitalist society doesn't teach its children how to manage money. thank you for your words

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 05/13/2008
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Please do not leave us. we still need our straight thinking elders! And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. If it wasn;t for your efforts, we would not be in this glorious position today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 05/13/2008
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Don't go, stay here with us. I was taught to look up to older people---for they have experience of life, and, from that, wisdom. That we can learn from. Don't ever again say you are glad you are on the way out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 05/14/2008

Hey Abby4ever, thanks for your comment makes us oldies feel we do still have something to offer. -- BUT I agree with Rosal if it were not for the youth in the country who are supporting Obama in huge numbers and demanding change, this country would not have the chance to move forward in the right direction. I've been so happy to see how Obama has gotten the youth in this country engaged and involved! I think the results from this campaign have proved allot of the older generation in this country are stuck in a rut - I exclude myself LOL --

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