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Union Leaders' Clash Over Dem Endorsements A Sign Of Racial Polarization

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May 14, 2008 10:12 PM


About Thomas B. Edsall

Thomas B. Edsall is the political editor of the Huffington Post. He is also Joseph Pulitzer II and Edith Pulitzer Moore Professor at the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism. From 1981 to 2006, he was a political reporter at the Washington Post. He is the author of Chain Reaction and Building Red America. Tom can be reached at edsall@huffingtonpost.com.


Some black leaders within the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) are complaining that under Gerald McEntee, Hillary Clinton's strongest and most outspoken backer in the labor movement, union money is being spent to build white turnout for the New York Senator in what has become a racially polarized competition for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a number of sources.

The conflict is emblematic of the intensifying hostility within Democratic ranks as the nomination fight slowly moves towards closure. The fact that the two leading candidates are a black and a woman has produced internal and external disputes involving civil rights, women's rights and a variety of other groups and leaders in the liberal wing of the party.

William Lucy, International Secretary-Treasurer of the 1.4 million member AFSCME, raised the issue of the union's spending on behalf of Clinton at a recent board meeting.

Lucy, according to sources, pointed out that Clinton is winning whites, while Obama is carrying blacks by 9-to-1 margins, forcing her supporters, including AFSCME, to concentrate on building white turnout.

In addition to his number two post at the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, Lucy is founder and president of the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists.

Tensions between McEntee and Lucy have been simmering outside of public view for years, and the Clinton-Obama contest has forced these tensions closer to the surface. While AFSCME under McEntee's direction endorsed Clinton, Lucy has personally given Obama $2,300.

A spokesman for AFSCME, who asked not to be identified, said only: "We don't comment on board discussions."

Sources familiar with the internal dispute say McEntee, who has a temper and does not tolerate disagreement well, has voiced outrage over dissent within his union. His anger has been directed not only at Lucy, but also at the Oregon State AFSCME, which defied McEntee and endorsed Obama. Oregon holds a primary this coming Tuesday, May 20.

Attempts to reach Lucy by phone and email were unsuccessful.

Nationwide, of the 16.9 million workers who are members of all the nation's trade unions, 2.4 million are black, 1.9 million Hispanic, and 657,000 Asian American, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. AFSCME, according to a spokesman, is 15 percent black.

McEntee's political stature rose dramatically in 1992 when he was one of the few labor leaders to back Bill Clinton. After Clinton won, McEntee enjoyed access to the White House and his calls to the president were returned. After McEntee's ally, John Sweeney, was elected president of
the AFL-CIO in 1995, McEntee became chairman of the labor federation's political committee.

McEntee and many other union officials took a hit in 2004 after they endorsed Howard Dean and had to watch his candidacy implode during the Iowa caucuses.

In the current election, McEntee has pulled out the stops for Clinton. So far, according to the Federal Election Commission, AFSCME has spent $415,800 on television and radio advertising, and has invested much more, $2.45 million, in a group called the American Leadership Project,
which has run ads for Clinton and against Obama.

Clinton met earlier this week with McEntee and other labor leaders to discuss her prospects and choices in the closing weeks of the campaign. McEntee pledged to stick with her until the end.

 
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The issue has nothing to do with black and white. The question that should be debated is very simple. Why has AFSCME spent millions upon millions of dollars in this PRIMARY campaign? The answer is very obvious-this union is being run by an individual who perceives himself a king. Whether or not the majority of AFSCME members supported the initial endorsement is certainly debatable. There is no question that the overwhelming majority of members would not support the outrageous expenditures that have accompanied it. There are a considerable number of people across the country who will not earn in a LIFETIME of work what their union(AFSCME) has spent on behalf of Sen. Clinton in Iowa alone. That is disgraceful by any standard. The King and his Court have attacked Sen. Obama repeatedly in misleading attacks despite his 100% rating by our union. Despite the obvious conclusion that Sen. Obama will be the Democratic nominee Mcentee continues to squander money on behalf of Sen. Clinton in states like Kentucky,Puerto Rico, and yes Montana. It is apparent that his arrogance knows no bounds and that his supporters on the E-Board lack the courage or decency to stop this madness. It is no longer acceptable to keep the union's business in the union, our members can ill afford this type of leadership and it is time that Mcentee and his accomplices be held accountable for their actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 05/19/2008

Obama is just going to have to work his ass off to turnout new voters, and record African Americans to overcome whites that just won't vote for a black president. It's sad that in 2008 racism and prejudice is still so prevalent.
Take a look at this video from WV to see just how ignorant people still are in this day and age.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-q4MDQ0cDI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 05/16/2008
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Why are racist Americans proud of that fact? Why don't Republicans want to talk to non-White leaders? Why are women voting disproportionately? Why do uneducated Americans seem to outnumber educated Americans? Why are there hungry children in our country? Why are our troops still in Iraq? Why do Americans vote against their own interests? Why do people care if Gays and Lesbians marry? Why doesn't Bill or Hillary not wear a flag pin? Why is McCain running for President? What color are Cindy McCain's eyes? Why do people not vote, and then complain about who the elected officials are? Why does a poor little girl in Florida have to go on YouTube to get help after being raped? Why is our country an International laughing stock?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 05/16/2008
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PAposter ... Some people, like a child, ask many "WHY" questions? Simple answer = Because!
I'm a PERSON with a body, with white skin... I'm NOT now, nor ever will be, my body... My skin does NOT think... There are people who believe they're "Black" people... They believe in Race and Color... They self segregate by Belief, Race and Color... They believe in and work against what MLK Jr dreamed of, IE, "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King, Jr.
I don't like "Black" people... I don't like "White" people (Think: Skinheads, KKK)... I don't care about the Color of somebody's skin... Skin neither thinks, nor believes...
I have NO intention of ever Voting to put a person, running as a Black, White, Red, Yellow, or Brown, PERSON, into the Office of President... Barack chose to make HIS Campaign about Race/ Color... Barack's Campaign successfully played the Race/Color Card and blamed the Clinton's...
In General terms, the "Black" Community is a self segregating, failing Community... Far to many children with "black" skin tones are growing up "Black," going to prison, being single parents, etc... The "enemy" of the children with black skin tones is the "Black" Community... All the anger about other American's is self inflicted! POGO: WE have met the enemy and it is US... There are very few "White" people in America to do things to "Blacks"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/18/2008

Are we going to continue to show the foreign countries that America is racist? To continue this pettiness on race appears to do be driving a wedge between America and it's allies. Who can they trust? The rhetoric is catching up with the actions now. People do not like being engaged in this race war. our 3rd war among wars on the American People. When will it stop? When Do we stop? Folks have to join the unions with certain jobs, why should anyone be allowed to rush the race card. Folks appear to be so deeply engaged in pushing the clinton button to keep the confusion going. Why? What's up with this. Just Dare to say no to this pettiness and move on in life in a more positive manner

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/15/2008
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I think that unions can be very positive, however, it is things like this that make me dislike them. Sometimes when union leaders do things not in the best interest of all union members, it has the effect of making unions lose members. I don't blame Lucy for speaking up. I think that it was the right thing to do and I don't blame people for getting out of the union. I believe that this union should have withheld their endorsement until there was a nominee. Look at all of that money that has been spent and it looks like the endorsement was based on some leaders past relationship with Bill Clinton and I don't think that this was fair to Obama. I think that they need to get rid of McEntee, because that endorsement appears to benefit a few and not the mass. I think that we have to hold our union leaders accountable and this is why I agree with Lucy. This is why people get out of unions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/15/2008
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AFSCME

Should never of endorsed Hillary, two failers in a row for the Unions President and to think, millions down a whole, AFSCME's logo, waving over a loser, time and time again.

I tld them don't do this and t to wait until the nominee, or give some to both, endorse all Democrats, but no the President and exsecutive council knows better and look where we are now, out of millions and the winner is looking at us like we were the fools.

Good thing he's not known for holding grudes, I stopped my contributions the day, I got a advertismant in the Mail with my Unions logo on it, with Hillary smiling, I promtly with drew and wrote a stern letter.

I donate and will donate directly to the candidate of my choice, local and National. sorry brothers and sisters, the Head is in the tank with too many losers for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/15/2008

What did you withdraw from? Just contributing to Hillary or the Union?

It's all well and good to withhold contributions if you want to, but you're not much of a union person if you pull out of the union because you disagree with the leader's decision to endorse Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/15/2008
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Don't you have to pay union dues?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 05/16/2008

I have always thought highly of Bill Clinton until this nominating process and he brought out the race issue.I've also since learned how NAFTA came about,and its sickening because I supported him for so long and defended him strongly.I belong to a union and believ me when I say they are worthless and self centered. They have totally turned are unions into a corporation and god knows somebody needs to check into this for all union workers sake.They have sold us down the drain and its time we woke the hell up because they are dedinitely part of the promblem too. Now they are all about lining their own pockets and leaving the workers to fend for ourselves! God help us because we are taking it from all ends!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/15/2008

Bill Clinton brought out the race issue?

Isn't Obama black? Wouldn't that fact alone have brought out the race issue.

Barry has tried to avoid identification with his chosen race (yes, he chose to identify as a black man rather than a white man) by being photographed with crowds of white, young and youngish adorers. In Philly, Barry made a visit to a black area only once, and that was on the primary day. He had Philly in the bag, but he never bothered to show respect to the black people of Philly. Outgunned as she was, Hillary Clinton campaigned in both North Philly and West Philly. She knew Philly was gone, but she showed respect to the people she knew were going to vote against. her.

This bogus "race issue" and "race baiting" that Bill Clinton and Hillary are accused of is sheer lunacy. The record does not support either accusation.

90% of black are voting for Barry; nothing Hillary could say or do would've changed that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 05/15/2008

What you are referring to is a case of good old time pandering..make an appearance, promise what you think the folks there want to hear and never give those folks another thought if it isn't to your political gain. There was nothing more to Hill's visit than old machine politics at work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/15/2008
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For the record, I am sick and tired of folks saying that 90% of African-Americans are voting for Obama and implying racial bias.

When Bill Clinton ran -- both terms -- HE got 90% of the African American vote.

When John Kerry ran -- guess what? HE got 90% of the African American vote.

Get over yourselves and know the facts. Rants like that make me sick to my stomach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/15/2008
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"The record does not support either accusation."

But their rhetoric during this campaign has like "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too."
When I heard that I thought to myself, "why on earth would you be comparing him to a clown like Jesse Jackson." Then I figured out he was comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson because they are both of African decent. I get it now. Bill Clinton is a sleaze bag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 05/16/2008
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First of all Barack Obama is biracial, only Whites label him Black. Most intelligent people do not dismiss his mother. He didn't choose to be "identified" as Black, that's all you see when you look at him, you learn differently only when you listen. Senator Obama spent plenty of time in and around Philly. The race issue is only "bogus" to non-Blacks. Blacks always back the strong Democrat in the race, that has never changed. It just wasn't Hillary year, there is a woman out there that will represent all Americans, and her gender will be of little consequence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 05/16/2008
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hmmmm i used to be an member of AFSCME before my employer abused me and then cut my wage and then RIF'ed me. And this is the point. They are a union that pretends to be a union with out the union trimmins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 05/15/2008

I always say if your union isn't working for the workers it's because there aren't enough wokers working in the union. Unions just like governments have a tendency to forget who pays the bills and it's up to us to make sure they don't forget by being there and aware.

I think the government isn't the only place that needs a scrubbing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/15/2008
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Why is anyone still trying to turn voters out for Clinton? This race has been over for almost 3 months!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 05/15/2008

i don't think any one is trying, they seem to be "turning out" all on their own. what does that tell, given that this race has been over for 3 months? could it be that voters are sending a clear message about senator obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/15/2008

well stated finlandstation.

what do Obamanistas have against democracy anyway?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 05/15/2008

This is not about Obama. a message got twisted that only the men who claim to be men of no color are are acceptable for running as President. Any man of color appears to have to be vetted by what every ASSOCIATE who HE knows from day one, says, does, or professes to be. And regardless of this outcome, that Man of color, aka Obama is having to pay an out ragious, uncalled for unamerican price for. Praise the Lord, My father did not have to make a choice of who he was in this this world. an American can be mixed with any other ethnic blood, except African, as long as he looks WHITE, regardless of demeanor, he is treated as white. It's that knowledge that someone is part African regardless of skin color, that person is treated unfairly. Many folks are getting tired of this division. It is on the rise now because Hillary wanted to win the votes at any cost. Hill is still engaged in child's play called tag me for the WH. This long grueling race dividing Primary is over, but no one has "tagged" Hillary, yet. So we keep going on and Hill is saying to the people of no color...VOTE for me,forget about the Dems, It's about me. This is so in appropro...Stop this drama. Delegates go to Obama. Stop this child's play and lets grow up and heal our scarred party. Please do not let this UNION further divide us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/15/2008

tells that they won't accept reality. the level of unreality among clinton voters these days is pretty high. yes she should continue through all the states if she wants. but she has already lost the nomination unless she strongarms superdelegates to overturn a fairly won race. if you push it, i suppose that's a legitimate political tactic, however distasteful. but most people accept the reality that she will not be the nominee unless she uses that tactic and causes such a huge uproar that we would then lose the GE election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 05/17/2008

heyk6007
why are obama supporters so against workers and unions? is this another trend we can look forward to if by some divine intervention he wins this fall?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/15/2008

Troll! Definately a Troll!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 05/15/2008

I support Obama.
I support workers.
I support Unions that give mebers votes on how money is spent.
I support democracy and debate as well.
Hope AFSCME can be united.

Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 05/15/2008

It's unfortunate that Clinton supporters are so desperate that they would risk the well being of America over their political ambitions. It should be noted that even though blacks have supported Senator Obama by a wide margin. He has not encouraged racial behavior. Quite the contrary, Obama has encouraged inclusion and the dismantling of barriers between people. Hostilities between people need to be resolved not perpetuated. That should be what national leadership is all about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/15/2008

you can't be serious. it was the obama campaign which started the fight about racial labeling in the first place. and as we can see by the posts on this site, his supporters continue to throw racial insults about low life, white workers in west virginia and pennsylvania. there is hardly a single post that doesn't in some manner express racial bigotry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/15/2008

"A troll or not a troll?" That is the question!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/15/2008

The Clinton supporters are risking the well being of America over their political ambitions?

What well being?

Have you been in a coma for the past 7.5 years?

What the hell is "racial behavior"???

America is a beautiful tapestry of diversity, and tapestries don't have colors that bleed into each other. The wonder of America is that there are so many different groups who live together relatively peacefully and who contribute to each other in so many ways.

What Barry has done is not being inclusive, it's being elusive. He's run from the fact he is a black man, until he was forced to confront the fact as a result of Rev. Wright.

The facts are the 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, whether he sought that vote or not. And it's hardly surprising that 90% of blacks are voting for him.

We Clinton supporters care about the state of affairs in America every bit as much as any of Barry's supporters, and to say otherwise is to drive the wedge further into the divide that now exists between the two political wings of the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/15/2008

Whoa there Nellie! There aren't two different wings of the democratic party. During primaries we may prefer one candidate over another for the nomination....but after the majority decides on one candiate that's becomes the party's choice...Story over and better luck next time...that's how democracy works...majority rules and the same is true of the Democratic party.

Frankly since you chose to refer to Senator Obama as Barry and your remarks are leading, I find it hard tp believe you have ever supported Senator Clinton or any other democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/15/2008

Will this nomination race finally put to bed the notion that republicans are the only party of bigots and racist. There are bigots and racist in all walks of life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/15/2008

You are correct. Even among the blacks this is just as true.

With 92% of black voters voting Obama. I don't need to say another word.

Racist and Bigots, as defined by Webster, applies to blacks who are voting Obama because he is black.

So when you make statements such as this, take a look in the mirror, or better yet take a look at the election results among black voters.

What's that old saying, when you point your finger at someone, there are three others pointing back at you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/15/2008
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Funny, none of you 'whites' were upset as year after year, blacks have FAITHFULLY carried White democrats to higher offices. Now that they've got an exciting Black/White candidate and are enthusiastically helping the progressive wing of the Party.

To say it is SIMPLY 'race', is to ignore all the times they've chosen 'White' candidates over other Black, politicians.

So maybe you should take your own advice, about pointing fingers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/15/2008

Black voters do not support black republicans like they support Barack. And blacks actually favored Clinton before Bill's South Carolina/Jesse Jackson comments and all of Hillary's race-bating comments like the "hard-working whites" and MLK wouldn't have accomplished anything without LBJ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/15/2008

For 200 years or so 100% of black voters have voted for white candidates but there are millions of whites who refuse to vote for a Black man even if he were Ronald Reagan. Maybe blacks like Obama for what he says and who he is rather than what he is. Gosh, he is half white. Blacks politically do not support Condi or Clarence Thomas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 05/15/2008

You presume that blacks are voting for Obama because he's black. It is quite possible they're voting for him because they beleive we need to come together as a nation. they along with Asians, Indians, Latinos, and Jews have fought side by side with whites in wars to preserve this country and the freedoms you enjoy. And upon returning, were excluded from this society, and without the rights and freedoms they fought for . Many who fought, came home to only to be lynched or degraded. And yet, have demonstrated their patriotism, beyond and above the call. Not for glory, but because they beleive in this country. My father and I are on that list.
In short, Blacks are voting for Obama to bridge the divide, because he is the only candidate with that message. Sadly, you perceive something negative from a positive and unfortunately appear fearful. It is folk like you who use excuses like, "no experience, all the blacks are voting for him", to hide your racism and disdain for those who have sacrificed for you and the rest of this country, to make it a better place for, "all of us". I can only say to you, when you know better, you do better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 05/16/2008

I don't think that was ever an assumption! Was it? Ugly people are just ugly people no matter how they vote...I thought that was a given!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 05/15/2008

i agree, but why are so many obama supporters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/15/2008

Another great example of the fair mind, team building spirit of HILLARY's Coalition. This is what she would bring to the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 05/15/2008

The unions have supported Hillary because she has supported them there is no other reason. Recently a company named American Axle forced union worker to go on strike over wages and health care, Hillary took time out during her campaign to write a letter to the head of the axle company C.E.O. Mr. Richard Dauch pointing out the hugh profit"s the company has made overseas at the expense of American workers and encouraged them to pay union workers a livable wage. Where was Obama during this time, and why was he silent during the strike?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 05/15/2008

Forced to strike? Strikes are a negotiating ploy and are optional not forced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/15/2008

Strikes are forced by the company when they need tax write-offs. The companies do this by lowering wages to a sub-standard rate, or by taking away benefits that would cripple many working families, sometimes they ignore health and safety issues. I guess it is true that the workers could stay and work at the lowered rates of pay while the companies reap record profits, or just work in unsafe working conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 05/15/2008

The Clintons have done nothing for unions except lip service. In fact their policies have hurt the union movement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/15/2008

Reagan hurt the union outsourcing hurt the union and the American people have hurt the union. Everytime someone buys a product that isn"t American made it hurts the unions. Please point out how the Clintons have hurt the unions, and please don"t point to NAFTA because Bill Clinton did not start NAFTA the former President Bush started NAFTA and Bill Clinton had to support it to win the election that year. I would wager that you buy foreign cars and have lead based painted toys from China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/15/2008
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HA! Clinton the 'Union's best friend'. bwaaahahahahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/15/2008

and Obama is? Show me something he has done for the unions? Anything!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/15/2008

K6007 why don"t you jump into your little foreign car and go to the library read a book and stop being the idiot that you so clearly are. Maybe your mommy let you chew on one to many lead painted toys while you were growing up, because you clearly can"t answer one simple question. WTF has Obama done for the unions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/15/2008

Have I offended you k6007 really you must learn not to take things so personal. Now go and play with your lead painted toys and take a heparin every two hours. Come back when you can answer my question. Here I will ask you again because the lead obviously makes your brain work alot slower. WTF has Obama done for the unions? Maybe you can answer this one WTF has Obama done for the poor who lived in the Rezko housing project? Never mind I remember now he took the buy out money and bought him a million dollar house next to a plot of land that Rezko's wife wanted for a flower garden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/15/2008

There was this one guy in a big white house who decided to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Barack spoke out against it. Where was Hillary during this time and why did she support that murderous decision until 2006?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 05/15/2008

Sorry Dear! But that is what we call pandering. While Hillary has an aide to whip off a letter, she still supports Nafta, Cafta etc with only cosmetic changes and she even lied about pushing for passage.

That is just more of the same old politics as usual. Giving pennies with one hand while taking dollars with the other and patting you on the back all the while. I say any major Organized Labor Leader who still wants to play that game needs to go right along with the rest them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/15/2008

Bowling anyone? Pandering?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 05/15/2008

So many of you do buy into HRC's comments abouts hard-working Americans...white Americans. Well, there are many hard-working people of color, Asians, Latinos, African Americans, who pay dues to labor unions...all of them are green. If the weren't so much fear of the Clinton machine, this particular union would have waited, like the UAW and the IAFF, until the nomination process was complete. It didn't take a rocket scientist to realize the Dem nomination process was going to go the way it has. If McEntee wasn't so focused on his own personal agenda, he would have been astute enough to recognize the Clinton machine was running out of steam long before this electiojn cycle. Its not like having access to the Clintons was empowering this bargaining unit to make things better for the rank-and-file. Our municipal employees get screwed all the time. People of color are not leavinbg this country. It belongs to all of us. The sooner it is accepted and we all look out for one another, the better off will be as a nation and perhaps our reputation as a true superpower will be restored. But then, you can elect McBush and we can keep sending our husbands, wives, sons, and daughters to fight an unnecessary war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/15/2008

Your comment is obserd.

All you have to do is look at the fact 92% of blacks voted for Obama.

In no election does someone get 92% of a vote. There was a recent election where a dead man on the ballot received 28 % of the vote.

If you applied a reasonable difference in the black vote at 60% Obama and 40% Clinton.

What would you have....

Hillary Clinton leading Obama in the popular vote, elected delegates, and super delegates.

The black voters have made this election about race. It is obvious they voted based on race. And in November the Democrats better not do any crying if they put Obama up against McCain and Obama loses because white voters will either stay at home, or in most cases vote McCain to keep Obama out.

Anyone thinking differently isn't on the street talking to white voters when it comes to who they will vote for if the Democratic Party puts Obama out there as the nominee.

Lastly, 20 percent of the population may be black. But in the general election there will be 80% of the voters who will be white. If you think Obama is going to overcome those numbers. You are sadly mistaken.

Hillary Clinton will win. Obama will lose. That's the reality check.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 05/15/2008

ABSURD, the word is ABSURD.

Makes sense you support Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/15/2008

please wrap your mouth in duck tape and crazy glue your fingers together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/15/2008

Only 13% of the population is black.

Stop stating statistics that are not factual.


Hillary's popular vote theory is anything but democratic. In Michigan Obama is not on the balllot. Hillary counts her votes, but none....not one for Obama. As if that would ever happen, did you see that crowd last night when Edwards endorsed Obama in Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/15/2008

Wrong on SOOO many levels.

Hill LOST... Get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/15/2008

No, your comment is absurd. What your saying is ALL BLACK PEOPLE VOTED FOR OBAMA SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS HALF BLACK AND THEY ARE TOO!
Are you f**** insane?

I'm so offended by your post "THENEWS"! People like you are the reason America is as divided as it now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 05/15/2008
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