Massive Blowback To NARAL's Obama Endorsement

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First Posted: 05-15-08 11:14 AM   |   Updated: 05-23-08 05:12 AM

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The endorsement of Barack Obama by the nation's foremost abortion-rights advocacy group is causing major fissures and backlash within the women's rights community.

Hours after Obama received the support of NARAL's Political Action Committee, the organization's Washington branch felt compelled to announce its continued neutrality and disappointment with the endorsement.

"We strongly disagree with NARAL Pro-Choice America's decision to endorse at this time," a press release from the group read. "To endorse Obama at this point in the race is an unconscionable slap in the face to Senator Hillary Clinton."

They weren't alone. In a hastily announced meeting late Wednesday night, several of Clinton's most high-profile female supporters lashed out against NARAL's PAC calling it "a betrayal," and "extremely unnecessary,"

"We feel abandoned by this organization today," said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Elizabeth Malcolm, the head of Emily's List, called the move "disrespectful" to Sen. Clinton, "who held up the nomination of a FDA commissioner in order to force approval of Plan B and who spoke so eloquently during the Supreme Court nomination about the importance of protecting Roe vs. Wade - to not give her the courtesy to finish the final three weeks of the primary process. It certainly must be disconcerting for elected leaders who stand up for reproductive rights and expect the choice community will stand with them."

In an interview with The Huffington Post, Martha Burke, the former chair of the National Council of Women's Organizations, said she was "disappointed and think they are wrong. It feels like they are abandoning a known ally for a less committed candidate because they want to jump on a bandwagon. I think the pro-choice community should stick by a woman who has stuck by them."

And in a phone conversation, Marcia Pappas, the head of National Organization of Women, New York -- who famously accused Ted Kennedy for betraying women by endorsing Obama -- would not even commit to supporting the Illinois Democrat in the general election.

"It is disappointing that an organization that stands up for the rights of women would rush to this type of judgment, especially when we only have three weeks left. And I would wonder what criteria they used to make that judgment, based on the fact that [Obama] chose seven times to vote present," she said. "We certainly know that John McCain is not good on women's rights and we hope that Barack Obama is better on it, but it remains to be seen when we have a candidate who did not stand firm when he could have done so. "

Combined, the blowback from NARAL's endorsement is enough to suggest that Obama, should he become the nominee, may face future political hurdles when reaching out to the women's rights movement. But his record, compared to both Clinton and McCain, is strong on the group's issues. He has received three straight perfect ratings in NARAL's congressional record, has consistently supported a pro-choice platform, and his seven "present" votes (which Pappas cites) in the Illinois Senate were driven, he says, by legislative strategy rather than policy disagreements. As NARAL's president, Nancy Keenan, wrote on the Huffington Post:

"Sen. Obama has been a strong advocate for a woman's right to choose throughout his career in public service. Since joining the Senate in 2005, he has worked to unite Americans on both sides of this debate behind commonsense, common-ground ways to prevent unintended pregnancy. He supports legislation to provide our teens with comprehensive sex education, prevent pharmacies from denying women access to their legal birth-control prescriptions, and increase access for family-planning services."

The endorsement of Barack Obama by the nation's foremost abortion-rights advocacy group is causing major fissures and backlash within the women's rights community. Hours after Obama received the sup...
The endorsement of Barack Obama by the nation's foremost abortion-rights advocacy group is causing major fissures and backlash within the women's rights community. Hours after Obama received the sup...
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Many of us who have worked under the broad umbrella of women's reproductive rights understand the problems associated with using the moniker "pro choice" - the term plays well with white college girls, but doesn't elicit the same feelings with women living in the communities of color (and there are good reasons for their ambivalence).
That said, I understand what NARAL is trying accomplish. They are trying to mend a tear in the umbrella that protects the reproductive rights of women by attempting to unite white women and women from communities of color. I do not disagree that it could be a unifying move. HOWEVER, TIMING IS EVERYTING. I think NARAL could have accomplished a more unifying move if they had waited to endorse. I worry that this will actually exacerbate the problems of communication between women who would otherwise link arms in the struggle for women's reproductive rights.
Again, I understand what NARAL was trying to accomplish. But, I would have advised them (had they bothered to ask) to wait until the Democratic primaries were finished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 05/16/2008

Where is Hillary's leadership in handling this threat? She doesn't have any, and it appears that she may actually appreciate and support their threat to undermine Obama. This does not help her to make a case to be VP, it only makes it less likely to have her on the ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 05/16/2008

I know some Yahoo would somehow spin this into being HRC's fault. People like you really make it hard for me to pull the lever for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/16/2008

Me too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 05/16/2008

Really?? You would really not "pull the lever" for Obama just because some of his supporters upset you? My God have you seen what some of the HRC supporters have said, not only on this site but on dedicated "HATE OBAMA" sites?

You know what, as I have posted before, the nominee will be the winner of this election - whomever it is will have won according to the rules that everyone understood and agreed to from the beginning. If you are a dem and you support HRC then there is no credible reason for you not to vote for Obama if he is indeed the winner of this election process. Really, there is no reason at all to vote for McSame who is pro-war, anti- woman, no healthcare, no plan for economy or jobs - really you need to seriously think about what you are saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 05/16/2008
- richmc I'm a Fan of richmc 5 fans permalink

Hillary needs to get out. The next President is going to appoint two, maybe three Supreme Court Justices. Look at Scalia. He's seventy and morbidly obese. He could drop any time. Do you want McCain to get to replace him? How about Suter? Or Ginsburg? People need to acknowledge what's at stake here. This bickering is counterproductive. She's been mathematically eliminated. She needs to get on the Obama bus with everything she's got, or you can kiss Roe v Wade and probably a lot of other civil freedoms goodbye. If she's so great, she needs to get real about what's up and put a shoulder to the wheel. Show some integrity. She got beat. She couldn't beat McCain, anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 05/16/2008
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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NARAL's decision reiterates the fundamental smartness women demonstrate every day. Their reasoning is cool, dispassionate and logical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 05/16/2008

STFU Obama Bot. You are an OBama supporter, and it's the only reason you want her out of the race. She is staying in because her supporters want her to stay in. We only have 3 weeks left and she has not been attacking OBama. She was the first to defend him over McCain and Bushes remarks about Hamas and IRan. Nobody but her should make the decision and assholes like you shouldn't push her out. She's been working her ass off for two years and she has close to 17 millions loyal supporters and many donors who want her to finish and not quit when the finish line is so close. Just settle down, 3 weeks is not a long time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 05/16/2008

Bill3rdterm: you start with "STFU Obama Bot" and end with "just settle down"???????

Listen EVERYONE needs to settle down and understand that it s all going to be fine- better than fine. Don't you think that Hillary and Barack have spoke, they probably talk close to every damn day - they know what's up. This Country is finally on a path back to greatness and Barack and Hillary are leading the charge. Mathematically, yes, it looks like Barack will be the dem candidate, but that doesn't mean that Hillary is not going to be a huge part of the this movement. They both have over 17 milliion people who have come out for them in primaries and caucuses - so they are both as credible as the other. The nominee will be the one who WON this election according to the rules that everyone agreed to and understood going in - there will not be any back room deals that over turn the voters- it just will not happen that way. No one can cry foul if everyone plays by the rules right?. Only one can be at the top of the ticket and whomever that is needs to be supported by all of us because it is our country that is at stake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/16/2008
- luvthelaw I'm a Fan of luvthelaw 4 fans permalink

I am an Obama supporter and agree she has every right to stay in the race. My only question is whether it is financially a good idea. If you guys want to donate enough money to keep her in the race, that's terrific. I am worried about the 20-25 million that her campaign owes to people that someone has to pay and if she stays in, that's another 10 million or so added on. It's not fair to not pay the vendors who have supplied things for her campaign. If she can get the money, she should stay in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/16/2008

The only legitimate reason for Hillary to stay in at this point is to "unwind" the extreme feelings people like you have for her candidacy so they can get behind the party's presumptive nominee Barack Obama. Defending him ONE time from a Republican attack is only a start to what she should be doing. She needs to be doing much much MUCH more. If she can't do those things she does need to step aside so he can start to heal the party by himself. So I suggest you calm down yourself and quit promoting an environment cundusive to McCain. Do you really want an ultra right wing Supreme Court? Do you want to stay in Iraq? Do you want our health care not to be addressed? If you keep it up that is what you are saying you want by your actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 05/16/2008
- Marrigan I'm a Fan of Marrigan 3 fans permalink

Beyond the echo chamber of the one-issue fanatics, NARAL doesn't enjoy much support or respect. If someone is willing to throw their vote away over this, then it doesn't make them any different than the far right-wing anti-abortion single issue voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 AM on 05/16/2008
- bish66 I'm a Fan of bish66 4 fans permalink

Just imagine for a second that NARAL had endorsed Clinton (and she has a good enough record for such an endorsement, an even better record than Obama)

Would there be an outcry that NARAL snubbed Obama? I guess not. Camp Obama would downplay it, saying "that's a women's issue, no wonder that they picked a woman."

NARAL's endorsemen­t... Well, I can only shake my head and prepare myself for the next big Obama endorsement, the National Rifle Associatio­n... Or would they rather endorse Michael Moore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 AM on 05/16/2008
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If I have used a word or two unfamiliar with anyone by all means Google it or use the dictionary on your bookself. I attended high school when it had a bit of meaning (class of '84.) I went to a bit of college taking courses that I thought might "round" me as an individual -- no English classes though which might have helped me with my syntax and grammar. Most of my (what might be consider to be the slimmest) of knowledge I gained from watching and listening to others.

Again I am sorry for going so tangential.

Off into the ether does my insignificant rant fly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 AM on 05/16/2008
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I am using a good number of the fibers of my being not to go off on this statement with complete vitriol and condemnation. If I should exceed the constraints with which I try to bound myself, I ask for the forgiveness of those that I offend.

What BS!! That didn't take long did it? I am sick, and ou guessed it, tired of people claiming an endorsement "doesn't matter", "came too early", " came too late", "is the most significan­t." If people are too f'ing lazy to form their own opinion and express it, then why are you wasting your time and mine to write it again. It is not like most people have not encountered opinions that were almost dictated to them.

If someone is offended by someone's statement then fine. Spell out what offends you and precisely why.

But I will not accept opinions based on misandry as surely as I do not accept those based on misogyny! There are opinions, attitudes, and behaviors that I reject from both sexes. And if you have nothing of note to say about something, then by all means bring on the extraneous arguments. (a sarcastic statement I must point out due to my own shortcomings of the English language.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 AM on 05/16/2008
- Lolasmom I'm a Fan of Lolasmom 9 fans permalink
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I applaud NARAL for doing the right thing:
Vote for a person of integrity, that is brilliant.
Hillary is a liar and worries about one thing only- HERSELF!

She has won all that is coming her way- she is wasting money she does not have, and she does not have the numbers, and is winning in her mind only.

Please stop bringing up FL and MI. She broke the rules there too. NO ONE WAS ON THE BALLOT in MI except for herself, and she declares SHE WON IT!
DELUSIONAL!

ALSO, when Bill won, he was going to stand up for GAYS IN THE MILITARY- and all he did was adopt don't ask don't tell! SHAME ON THEM!

in short- BRAVO NARAL for doing the RIGHT THING at the RIGHT TIME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 05/16/2008

Obama's camp would never say "that's a womens issue..." that's ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 05/16/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 358 fans permalink
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I'm not worried about Democrats. Instinct will take over. When Hillary's supporters recover a little, and start listening to the junk McCain is spewing, they're going to react against it as strongly as they ever did, and we'll forget all about these loathsome primaries.

McCain isn't going to do anything about global warming. He's never going to get out of Iraq. He will go to war with Iran. And he will appoint the most hard-line conservative judges he can find to the Supreme Court. I have to think even Republicans are hoping McCain will lose, when they consider the seriousness of the stakes.

When the chips are down, we'll pull together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 05/16/2008

don't count on it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 05/16/2008

I think this is what one would have expected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 05/16/2008
- Rubiconski I'm a Fan of Rubiconski 30 fans permalink
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HEY HILLARY PEOPLE

YOU are why she is losing. PURE HATRED.

Hillary WILL endorse Obama....I can't wait to say...Told ya so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

Another bridge burned! Another voter alienated

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 05/16/2008

don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 05/16/2008
- Shozen I'm a Fan of Shozen 8 fans permalink

Then prepare yourself for another four more years of Bushivism. Four more years of war. Four more years of recession generating policies, Four more years of decline for America. And the overturn of Roe. What a feminist position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 05/16/2008

Forgive me if I don't believe that you were EVER going to vote for Senator Obama anyway. If an anonymous bloggers "words" can cause you to vote Repugnant or not vote at all then you are a very weak person indeed. How are you certain that this person is actually an Obama supporter? There is no sure way that you can be, yet you choose to immaturely turn against Barack Obama for words that aren't even his?

Pitiful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/16/2008
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I would like to know how many times you can announce that our vote has has been lost by alienation. How many times are you going to vote anyhow?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 05/16/2008
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In my following post I meant to type "your" and not "our"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 05/16/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 167 fans permalink
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True enough!

So what will Hillary's real supporters do?

If they are Dems, they will vote for the Obama in November.

Any claiming they will vote for McCain are now and always have been Republican Trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 05/16/2008

Don't forget "other" in the voting booth. I bet it will receive a ton of protest votes against Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 05/16/2008
- LisainNYC I'm a Fan of LisainNYC 10 fans permalink

Hope you are right about her supporters v. trolls.

But I am sorry to say there were tons of posters on the NARAL site who claimed they had been loyal members for years, would now give their money to Emily's list, and would be voting for McCain in the fall. Many made disgusting comments mentioning "Hussein" as a middle name, that "they would vote for their own minority [sic]", that Obama was just an"arrogant, empty suit" (read uppity black man). (It is up to us to show NARAL some love at http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/

or

https://secure2.convio.net/choice/site/Donation2? 1901.donat­ion=form1&­amp;df_id=­1901&JServ­SessionIdr­007=ei8wxw­d1w1.app43­b

Many also spewed Clinton Camp talking points (which are totally false since Planned Parenthood ASKED him to vote present) about Obama not being a strong pro-choice candidate. I certainly hope these were Repub trolls, but I don't think so. I won't add fuel to the fire by calling them what they really are.

Additionally, a new and nasty group "Clinton Supporters Count Too" out of Ohio claims it will actively campaign to undermine Obama.

I agree that most of her supporters will vote for Obama, but there sure are some doozies in her camp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

Well, I guess this is the last straw for me. I have always believed that, though I am a Hillary supporter, I would be quite willing to vote for and actively suppor Obama if he becomes the nominee.
This NARAL endorsemen has changed everything for me. It seems gratuitous in nature and makes me feel as a long time activist and supporter of abortion and wormens rights that.....I will allow the Obamabots to reap what they have sown.
We, older wome fought hard so thaat you, younger women could have so many of the options you have today regarding reproductive rights. This is not only abortion but basic birth control. Do you not know that the Birth Control Pill was once illegal? We fought that battle for you.
Perhaps it is time to let you go ahead and re-fight those battles for yourselves. Maybe people like me will just NOT vote for Obama. Just let Idiot McCain do his Right Wing thing. Let all of you who now take your reproductive freedom for granted, FGHT TO WIN IT BACK against the king of odds that we faced to win it the first time. Only now, you face the army of the Christo-fascists. It might be that much harder.
I am tired of their insults, taunting and self-aggra­ndiziement­. I am tired of their labeling of 'racism' at every turn.
You may now have the nomination. BUT, can you now win the Presidency after having burned my bridge????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 05/16/2008

Let me get this straight, you fought hard in the 60's and 70's for women's reproductive rights and are willing to throw it all away because NARAL endorsed Obama? Do you always let other people make your decision for you like that? I, too campaigned for women's rights and would not vote for McCain or sit this out if my life depended on it, which I actually fell it just might.

You may have been around a while but sounds like you need to grow up a bit and think for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

Yes, You have it straight. I think that these younge women have taken it for granted that they will always be able to have birth control, even though it is the stated goal of many of these (anti-choice) organizations that 'life begins at conception' therefore making many forms of birth control...­including some birth control pills illegal. There are ballot measure on some states ballots (Colorado) this fall that seek to do just that. I find this very disturbing.
So many Obama supporters don't realize this basic female freedom is under such threat. But aside from that. NARAL did not need to make any endorsement at all at this time and I believe that they did this because former President Kate Michelman has a vendetta against Hillary. Even though I believe Obama is Pro-choice and Pro-woman, I have become so digusted with the attiitude of his supporters that I now believe they should have to fend for themselves since they seem to want to insult me, trash me, marginalize me, discount me, and otherwise disregard my thoughts, feelings and opinions. Why, then, should I want to vote for their candidate. I have seen the supporters. What, then, does that say, about the candidate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 05/16/2008

Hillary supporters are in stage 2 of the 5 stages of grief over her failed primary campaign: Denial, ANGER, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. Hillary herself seems to be in stage 3 and 4 right now. Let's hope they get to stage 5 sometime in the summer or early fall, and then they can cast a rational vote in November. Obama won the Democratic primary weeks ago, and NARAL is only endorsing the winner after the fact. What is the big deal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 05/16/2008

You can still fight for womans reproductive rights without supporting Naral. The bottom line is NARAL is an organization that is made of supporters, members, volunteers and donors. THe majority of them are supporters of HRC, the fact that the leadership would go against the will of there members is a slap in the face. All they wanted was for them to wait until Obama won the nomination. I just don't get why NOW?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 05/16/2008
- pearbrandy I'm a Fan of pearbrandy 3 fans permalink

Merg, this kind of brinkmanship has no place in feminism - and I speak as a 36 year old feminist. It is pathetic and divisive but more to the point, completely unneccessary. I think you should be ashamed of yourself for selling your values down the river because someone spoiled your party - a male nominee who actually supports your values. Or do all Clinton supporters share her 'burn the children and the village to get to the white house' MO. despicable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

I am most certainly not ashamed. Your say I should be is of no interest to me. You sound like George Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 05/16/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

As a woman I cannot believe you would elect to stand for McCain who will appoint a judge to overturn Roe vs Wade!!! WOMEN WAKE UP!! DO NOT BLAME OBAMA FOR THE NARAL ENDORSEMENT BLAME NORAL!!! I AM A WOMAN THAT WILL SUPPORT OBAMA because he will stand for all of our issues and Hillary just said that it would be a huge mistake for any democrat to vote republican. Too much is at stake here people bigger than just womens rights but our rights as human beings. Our sons and brothers dying in Iraq and all you people can cry about is a stupid endorsement that is not really going to do much good for Obama!! Stand up for Obama woman because he is our nominee and he will fight for our rights!!! We must not be decided people because the stakes are to high and the cost is the blood of our men and women in Iraq as well as our right to choose.
DEMS MUST UNITE TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICANS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 05/16/2008
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Please, oh please do not forget our daughters and sisters that are dying as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 05/16/2008

why don't you vote for mccane? when roe v wade is reversed keep your mouth shut!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

I won't vote for McCain...i­t would gag me....but I am past child bearing years...I don't have to worry about an unplanned pregnancy. Do you? Go fight your own battles...­I'm through with you. and NARA. I do kind of feel bad for Obama cause he probably doesn't deserve this anger that I feel toward all of his nasty supporters. He seems like a decent enough guy, too inexperienced for my preference but, I could have voted for him. still ..I can just vote for local races...an­d skip the presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 05/16/2008
- jpetaluma I'm a Fan of jpetaluma 2 fans permalink

Merg,
Don't punish Senator Obama for this endorsement. What, should he have said NO? I am 57, and also have fought for a woman's right to choose. Why all the petty revenge talk. If you vote for McCain the Supreme Court will be irrevocably packed with consevative judges who will overturn Roe. They will also continue this war where 4000 troops have lost their lives, thousands have seriously life altering disabilities, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people have lost their lives or been displaced. Explain to the children of a child who hasn't seen their father in 15 months that we can't end this war right now because NARAL supported Senator Obama, so we just have to vote for McCain now. How shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 05/16/2008

Just stop pretending Obama is so innocent and everyone around him happens to be guilty. I am a lifelong Democrat, and I can assure you after all the things we have learned about Obama-- Reverend Wright, Rezko, Willaim Ayers etc.. I AM OVER HIM. I will never vote for him. Hillary Clinton has been treated like shit by the MSM. Everyone knows that. So yes, I have tremendous belief in her. I ALSO STILL BELIEVE SHE CAN WIN. Obama clearly believes it too, or he would not try so hard to defeat her. The problem is the way he goes about which is "old dirty politics." You know the tactics he swore he would never use.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 05/16/2008
- bish66 I'm a Fan of bish66 4 fans permalink

I'd rather say Obama is punished by his endorsements. MoveOn.org, Kennedy, Kerry, Michael Moore, NARAL. He is already the most liberal senator in the Senate and this string of liberal endorsements will scare conservative voters away. The big issues in the GE will be same-sex marriage, abortion, gun control, Iraq, the economy.

People feel strongly about these issues and while it will win him votes in the blue states, it will lose him the red and swing states. You can't win on the blue states alone, you need swing states and surprise pick-ups such as Arkansas which Clinton would win against McCain by 14 (!) points.

The only things left to doom Obama are endorsements from Carter, Pelosi and Gore. People talk about Clinton being divisive. Well, you ain't seen nothing yet. The only thing Obama is about to unite is the Republican side for a "last stand".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 05/16/2008

shameful and oh so stupid and for what, MRS Clinton, who would sell anyone out to realize her dream of being the first woman president? And the support is for her reproductive organs for who could support her for her record? Like no one who has the ability to do research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 05/16/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

Democrats we have the power now so let's not give it up because feelings are hurt. I was not happy with the Tone of the Clinton camp but I still respect her now and will not allow anyone to call her out her name and I am black. But I am ready to stand behind Obama and be a part of this great change that is coming. It will all be over soon everyone so just relax like Hillary said people and breathe. Hillary already said she will do everything in her power to make sure the Democratic nominee wins. I actually want to Thank Hillary now for running a hard campaine againts Obama because she has prepared him for the hell that the Republicans will bring and now he is ready to complete his destiny!

BEWARE OF REPUBLICANS IN ALL BLOGS POSING AS DEMS TO DIVIDE THE PARTY!!! LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/16/2008

Concur, in the strongest of terms.
The democratic party is a large party. Let us take the time to remember that we are, in fact democrats and what it is we stand for rather than be manipulated by those that stand against.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 05/16/2008

I have to say I agree. i am reading some of these crazy postings and sensing many of these are by paid repub staff. They just don't compute, the wacko things people are saying. I have been a lifelong dem and live in a very conservative part of the country, so I hear all kinds of stuff, but some of these posts are clearly wolfs in sheep's clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 05/16/2008
- rzan I'm a Fan of rzan 6 fans permalink

I think you may be right. They really must be Republican plants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 05/16/2008
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Yes I have noticed the same of these bifurcating, bivalves. Slugs truth is your salt and there is plenty to go around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 05/16/2008
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"CocteausTwin See Profile I'm a Fan of CocteausTwin

Yes I have noticed the same of these bifurcating, bivalves. Slugs truth is your salt and there is plenty to go around."

No offense, but that's really incoherent. Punctuation and basic sentence structure are your friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 05/16/2008
- fair1234 I'm a Fan of fair1234 2 fans permalink

Democrats, beware of Republicans that are posing as Clinton supporters talking about Clinton or Mccain 08!!! They want to divide our party and we must all stick togther. Obama is going to beour nominee so let's support him. Even Hillary defended him today againts Bush and Mccain attacks and that is called taking care of our own!! Obama supporters need to be more rspectful of Clinton Supporters and Clinton Supporters need not blame Obama for things that have gone wrong in Clintons Campaine. Also, EVERYONE STOP THREATENING TO BE DUMB TRAITORS AND VOTE FOR MCSAME!!! THINK OF OUR DEAD SOLDIERS AND THOSE THAT STAND TO DIE HOPING WE CAN MAKE THIS CHANGE FOR THEM!!! We need to all work together and DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!! We crippled the Republicans in Tennessee even with their Rev Wright ads that did not work. They are saying those negative commercials pushed more dems to the polls to vote because we are sick of the old divisive politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/16/2008
- JABean I'm a Fan of JABean 3 fans permalink

So long to NARAL donations. They have just turned themselves into an obsolete organization. Who they think has been given money to them all these years? The very ones they summarily dumped. Shame on them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 05/16/2008

Shame on them?
For supporting a candidate with a 100% voting record?
I suppose, by your comment if Anita Bryant was campaigning for the democratic nomination against Obama she should get the support of women?
Now I begin to fully appreciate that it has noting to do with positions on issues. Thanks for the clarification.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 05/16/2008

Shame on them for going against the will of there members.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 05/16/2008

You get an amen from me! I am proud of Naral and in truth Obama is my candidate and the certain nominee. That any woman would threaten to reek havoc and throaw an election to a hundred percent anti women candidate is ludicrous. What have we fought for but to be treated the same, oblivious to gender? That means we make our choices the same way and do not blindly support any one with a vagina for anything against anyone with a penis. The concept is idiotic. Hillary Clinton is not owed the presidency and neither is Barack Obama or John Insane. We get to choose and the people have chosen. In the Republican choice a man living in the prism of Viet Nam and "It's a mans world". The Democratic choice is not a product of the sixties but was instilled with enough of the idealism to be able to navigate a world that has by and large lost its ideals. If we are truly tired of the inequality it should be inequality for anyone. Being female doesn't necessarily make one right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/16/2008
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 11 fans permalink

This is a troubling. I worked thirty years in Democratic campaigns, long enough to know that Hillary is one of Naral's greatest champions. I once lobbied Clinton's White House to appoint a friend to a federal office. The word came back that he was not strong enough on abortion. A woman was appointed instead.

This endorsement betrays Hillary. It will not do Obama tremendous good, and will do Hillary bad. It seems pretty stupid because it shows that regardless of what you do for Naral, its leaders are fickle and untrustworthy. It is also driving a big wedge in the Party.

But Naral's board are not the only Democratic hangers-on boarding Obama's boat to share in the power that will flow if Obama wins. But, Obama is also attracting almost all the big Democratic presidential losers: McGovern, Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, and Edwards. He also garnered Tom Daschele who, despite being Majority Leader, lost his Senate seat. These people have no experience in winning presidential campaigns. They are only experts in losing. However, with Obama unable to put Hillary away, with Hillary winning more votes than Obama since March 4, with Hillary continuing to poll ahead of McCain while Obama can not do better than tie, and with Hillary currently leading McCain in states having over 270 electoral votes while Obama lags behind McCain by 60 electoral votes, there is reason to believe that Obama's boat will become known as the Ship of Fools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 05/16/2008
- rzan I'm a Fan of rzan 6 fans permalink

I hope it does do Hillary bad. The kind of crazy rhetoric in response to this endorsement will only turn off a lot of people, including women of sanity. NOW likened Clinton's losing this election to being gang-banged. This is an insult to rape victims and an insult to women. You are supporting a woman whose true self has been revealed in this campaign. No one has done it to her. She has done it to herself. Quit being a victim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 05/16/2008

Gangbanged is not a rape term, it's a porn term, but anyway. THe members of NARAL have a right to be pissed off, there leadership went against the will of the organization. All they had to do was wait until Obama won the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 05/16/2008

That's right. And they are all about to learn the natural laws of winners and losers: No matter how many losers you put on one team, they will never beat a team that has one true winner. I believe all Hillary really needs to do now is stay in the race until the Convention. In the meantime a concerted effort by her supporters plus the self-evident facts about which collection of voters represents the core constituency of the Democratic party, that the SuperDelegates will eventually realize the folly of their ways. Of course, some grass roots encouragement of preparing primary opponents to elected SuperDelegates will also help them decide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 05/16/2008

Where was Hillary Clinton when the "all call" went out to defend a women's right to choose when it was under direct threat in South Dakota?
MIA
Obama was the ONLY United States Senator to answer the call.
I suppose for Miss. rblackbird the voices of feminists like Alice Walker & Kate Michelman are those of valueless traitors to the feminist movement in America. I choose to believe otherwise and have and continue to find their words & actions of great value to the cause of advancing women's civil rights in America
Let's see who stands up and uses the upcoming democratic primary battle in South Dakota to give voice to women's reproductive civil rights now that they under direct threat once more. And we will see how the hard earned money & recourses are put to use in this important battle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 05/16/2008

clinton lost 12 in a row. back to back to back. your choice is a loser, and i guess you are to sit here and complain about your choice being outdone, and out classed. give it up. go vot for mccain, so that you dont have to worry about abortion, since it will be illegal, with fools like you carrying the torch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 05/16/2008

Outdone and out classed? More people have voted for HRC then Obama and that's the bottom line. You can continue tooting your own horn if you want, but it won't garner any support for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 05/16/2008
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The Quinnipiac poll taken yesterday has Obama leading McCain 47%-40%, and Clinton leading McCain 46%-41%. The results are more favorable towards Obama, obviously, but the difference is within the margin of error, so the good news is that either Democratic candidate can beat John McCain.

However, the point is moot. Hillary Clinton has been mathematically eliminated from the nomination. Her only winning scenario is for the superdelegates to overturn the will of the voters, and that absolutely won't happen, particularly at the pace that Obama has been picking up superdelegates of his own. The race is over, and NARAL knows it.

I'm sure that NARAL had a tough decision, and all things being equal, they would have preferred to give their endorsement to Hillary, who has certainly been their champion as you said. But, all things aren't equal, and NARAL wanted to make a show of support for the presumptive nominee while their endorsement still mattered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/16/2008

Hmm. buddhistmonkey, you omitted the fact that Clinton beats McCain in FL/OH/PA and Obama loses to McCain in FL/OH in a poll by the Quinnipiac 5.1.08

Hmm. could this be because Obama is disenfranchising Florida? I am curious what a poll in MI would show...

If you count FL/MI, then From ABC News: Clinton: 16,691,283 Obama: 16,647,926
So, perhaps the superdelegates should follow the will of the people.. and go with who is winning the popular vote...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 05/16/2008
- Merg I'm a Fan of Merg 5 fans permalink

You are wrong. NARAL had only ONE DECISION TO MAKE. That decision was the decision NOT TO ENDORSE ANY CANDIDATE UNTIL THE GENERAL ELECTION. Particularly when there are 2 pro-choice candidates. NARAL is and issues organization; it is well beyond its mandate to endorse any candidate based on anything othere than the candidates pro-choice, pro-woman stance. In this case, both candidates are equal; ergo=no endorsement. period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 05/16/2008

Take your victim votes and go home ladies. When you get home, start looking around for any old coathangers you've got lyin around the house. They'll be in big demand if McSame gets in.Oh, and if you've got kids/grandkids prepare for The Draft. Tuzla Annie 20012!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 05/16/2008

Stop being a condescending asshole. Calling woman victims because they are pissed that the organization they donate, support and volunteer for went against there will, is not playing the victim. If the leadership of the NRA or any other organization that is made up of thousands of supporters went against the will of those members, there would be outrage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 05/16/2008

Excuse me, but I must have understood what the women's rights movement was and is all about. Did we as women not want the right to make decisions and be respected for our decisions? Did we as women not want the freedom of choice in matters of family, home and profession? Are we to flock around the first viable female presidential candidate just because the candidate is female? Do we no longer have the option to chose whomever we want for President without all the women's organizations calling us traitors? Hillary Rodham Clinton is NOT ENTITLED to be President of the United States. She is not the only politician who has supported women's rights since the movement began in 1923. We can thank many, many politicians for helping move the ERA through Congress. Unfortunately, the ERA was never made a part of the constitution because it lacked ratification by three states.

Now NARAL is being challenged for endorsing Barrack Obama, the first viable Multiracial presidential candidate. It is apparent that some of our women's organizations want equality based on gender without regard to equality based on gender, race, religion or sexual orientation. I'm disappointed. I'm a 55 year old, Multiracial woman who has been looking carefully at both Obama and Clinton. It's difficult when you have two historic candidates running in the same year, and no one has the right to question the decisions of others.

Let's move forward, not backward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 05/16/2008

But she is entitled to be the Democratic nominee. She has earned it and has demonstrated more than enough competence that no one is doing her any favors by supporting her nomination.

What is unacceptable to the core constituency of the Democrats is the way they have been treated with such contempt by the Obama campaign. In addition to the contempt the Obama campaign has falsely painted the core Democrats as racists.

The whole Obama campaign has been nothing more than a cynical attempt by Kennedy, Pelosi and others to stop the ascendance of Hillary. Kennedy did the same thing to Carter in 1980, so he is not new to this game.

The contempt for the core Democrats reached a peak on WVa this week as they were written off by the MSM and the Obama campaign as just a bunch of uneducated poor white racists. This is on top of the contempt already shown to the baby boomers and to women, in general, but in particular with the treatment of Hillary, herself.

This cannot be allowed to stand, and a caretaker McCain would probably be better than this arrogant elitist Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 05/16/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

Oh my good lord.

The woman lost fair and square. Period, end of story.

What is WITH you people that have to blame everyone but Hillary? No one did anything TO Hillary, she sunk her own battleship.

STop being victims. Jeez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 05/16/2008

No one is ENTITLED to be the Democratic nominee. Whoever wins the most delegates, according to the DNC rules, is the nominee. Since no one will attain the number of required pledged delegates, the super delegates get to weigh in. But no one is ENTITLED.

Barrack Obama has earned the nomination and has demonstrated more than enough competence that no one is doing him any favors by supporting his nomination. He has won more pledged delegates, more popular votes, more states, and is leading in the super delegate count. The Florida and Michigan issue has yet to be determined, although I do not believe it will change the delegate battle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 05/16/2008
- PoohBear I'm a Fan of PoohBear 2 fans permalink
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With a name like "RichLiberal", the stench of TROLL is overwhelming. Beware of the Rush-bots coming to these boards to sew seeds of division. This current group of Repubs is the closest thing to fascism that America has ever dealt with. Whoever the nominee is we must unite for the future of our democracy and freedoms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 05/16/2008
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