McCain Predicts The Iraq War Will Be "Won" By 2013

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GLEN JOHNSON | May 15, 2008 09:18 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., acknowledges supporters, Thursday, May 15, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato)

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on the same side as Democrats clamoring for full-scale troop withdrawals.

The Republican presidential contender, in a mystical speech that also envisioned Osama bin Laden dead or captured, and Americans with the choice of paying a simple flat tax or following their standard 1040 form, said only a small number of troops would remain in Iraq by the end of a prospective first term because al-Qaida will have been defeated and Iraq's government will be functioning on its own.

"By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won," McCain told an audience of several hundred here in the capital city of a general election battleground state.

Later, as the Arizona senator drove to the airport on his "Straight Talk Express" campaign bus, McCain was peppered by reporters with questions about the timetable. He and his aides insisted there was a difference between ending the war and bringing troops home and, as they criticize the Democrats, announcing a withdrawal upfront without regard for the military endgame.

"It's not a timetable; it's victory. It's victory, which I have always predicted. I didn't know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win," McCain said.

The Vietnam veteran added: "I know from experience, you set a day for surrender _ which is basically what you do when you say you are withdrawing _ and you will pay a much a heavier price later on."

In the primary campaign, McCain had criticized former Republican rival Mitt Romney for hinting at a timetable.

Democrats challenged McCain's comments, led by presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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In a statement, the New York senator dismissed McCain and said he "promises more of the same Bush policies that have weakened our military, our national security and our standing in the world." The Barack Obama campaign said that while the candidate agrees with some of McCain's sentiments, "you cannot embrace the destructive policies and divisive political tactics of George Bush and still offer yourself as a candidate of healing and change."

Other Democrats equated McCain's comment with President Bush's May 1, 2003, speech on the deck of an aircraft carrier displaying a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

In his remarks, McCain peered through a crystal ball to 2013 and envisioned an era of bipartisanship driven by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.

The senator conceded he cannot make the changes alone, but said he wanted to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve. He backed up his remarks with a Web ad featuring similar content.

"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain said. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem-solving will begin."

To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the likely GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.

While that has cultivated a maverick image for McCain, the Arizona senator has also been accused of exhibiting a nasty temper _ swearing even at fellow lawmakers from his own party _ and unabashed partisanship.

In particular, McCain has clashed with the leading Democratic presidential contender, Barack Obama. After tangling with the Illinois senator on lobbying reforms, McCain questioned Obama's integrity in a publicly released 2006 letter.

McCain wrote he had thought Obama's interest in ethics legislation "was genuine and admirable," before adding: "Thank you for disabusing me of such notions." He accused Obama of "partisan posturing."

In outlining other potential achievements of a first term in his speech, the 71-year-old McCain implicitly was suggesting he would seek a second term, an attempt to mute suggestions he would serve only four years after being the oldest president elected.

In particular, he sees a world in which the Taliban threat in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced.

He added: "The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants. ... There still has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since Sept. 11, 2001."

McCain also pledged to halt a Bush administration practice of enacting laws with accompanying signing statements that exempt the president from having to enforce parts he finds objectionable.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on...
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on...
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- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

Grampy McCain has a senior moment and indulges in a little fantasyland talk in public. No idea how he'll accomplish any of it, but he figured it was worth putting out there, nonetheless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 05/16/2008
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 55 fans permalink

Maybe the good Senator is thinking in Dog years.
Hell, it would make as much sense as anything else coming out of his mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 05/16/2008

Jaysuss he looks old!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 05/16/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 209 fans permalink
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Mitt Romney, McCain's possible running mate, should now be referred to as "Mitt McFlip" and John McCain should heretofore be referred to as "John McFlop". They make a perfect couple.

Television viewers, just be sure to follow the bouncing flip-flops on your television screen this Fall. They'll be flip-flopping all over the place in the upcoming campaign. It'll be difficult to follow them with all of the flip-flopping going on. People will understandingly get dizzy and confused. (Both, of course, will eventually flop in a huge way in their fruitless attempt to win the presidency in November.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 05/16/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 209 fans permalink
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McCain, just 5 more years in Iraq? ...What Americans can't take is four more years of a Republican presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 05/16/2008
- julieeiluj I'm a Fan of julieeiluj 3 fans permalink

Sorry Ancient One. That is five years too long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 AM on 05/16/2008

What the Democrats need to do here is to replay all the many statements McSame has made about the Iraqi war that have turned out to be incorrect. That will make it clear to everybody that the senile old warmonger is clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 05/16/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 05/16/2008

McCain should be asked if he plans to include Iraq Occupation costs in the Federal Budget (not as an 'emergency' spending measure). If he can predict events in the future with this supposed clarity, surely he can budget for them, as well.

Also, if our current troop rotations are insufficient to maintain force levels for the time period he is projecting, he ought to be asked if a military draft (hopefully with no deferrals for 'knowing somebody') is necessary to supplement our armed forces.

And... he ought to be asked if we need a tax increase to pay for all of the borrowing that has been done to fund this occupation to date. Or... does he support fighting "wars" on credit?

If he loves this occupation so much and believes it's so important, let's see him pay for it and staff it adequately. I believe that is in keeping with traditional conservative values.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 05/16/2008
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 391 fans permalink
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Five more years, probably another 3000-4000 dead, and we'll have accomplished what the Iraquis and Iranians could not do: fight a war for an entire decade.

Sorry John, we're not buying your snake oil.

And I'd like to ask you something: What the hell DO you stand for? I don't know anymore, you've changed your position on everything so much. Didn't you excoriate Mitt Romney for coming up with a time table?

I though Hillary was desperate to become President and say anything, but you make her look like Obama, John. How do you keep track of your lies? Do you have a staff member who does it for you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 05/16/2008
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 15 fans permalink
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McCain predicts a 95% reduction in Iraq War projections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/16/2008
- cfc I'm a Fan of cfc 2 fans permalink

This lying bastard will say anything to get elected...he's so full of shit!!!!!!!!! Even more distrubing is plenty of people will believe this psycho.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 05/16/2008
- Texvol I'm a Fan of Texvol 2 fans permalink

How astonishing that achieving "victory" will require exactly enough time for McCain to complete his first term in office. How stupid does he think American voters actually are? Here are a few question the MSM reporters ensconced on the Straight Talk Express might consider asking between their martinis: (1) what exactly does "victory" mean in this context, (2) how many Americans will have to die to achieve that "victory," (3) what change in tactics and/or strategy is necessary to achieve this "victory," (4) how much will "victory" cost, and how will it be paid for, and (5) how does McCain's promise of "victory" differ from the same empty promise we have heard from George Bush and Dick Cheney for the last five years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 05/16/2008

If only the reporters on the Lincoln straight talk express had asked him those questions in 1861. We could have saved ourselves 600,000 fatalities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 05/16/2008
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RC did you fail American history or something? Equating the American Civil war to Iraq is utterly disingenuous. The Civil War was fought for a moral cause based in reality. While the Iraq war was fought based on lies. I can go into every difference but that would take a whole thesis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 05/16/2008

"We could have saved ourselves 600,000 fatalities."

But at the cost of having the United States destroyed as a nation and having slavery continue. Winning the civil war was essential to the survival of the United States.

That is in no way the case with Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 AM on 05/16/2008
- Texvol I'm a Fan of Texvol 2 fans permalink

What is your point, RC? That we shouldn't care? That we should just do what we are told? That it doesn't matter what the next President's policies will be?

By the way, your analogy is poor for several reasons, but for one, Lincoln was actually elected in 1860 and the Civil War hadn't started yet. For another, we weren't the ones who started it, the Confederacy did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 05/16/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 05/16/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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If your reply was to me then I can tell you it was nothing that Obama
said but what I heard with my own ears, with provided video on the
TV and the internet. I'm capable of making up my own mind by the
way, and nobody thinks for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/16/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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This was for Rashna below.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 05/16/2008
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DiaperRash belongs in McCain's depends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 05/16/2008
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New main thread on Conyers possibly arresting Karl Rove, in case you're wondering where everyone has gone...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/conyers-on-rove-someones_n_101998.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 05/16/2008
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