McCain Predicts The Iraq War Will Be "Won" By 2013

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GLEN JOHNSON | May 15, 2008 09:18 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., acknowledges supporters, Thursday, May 15, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato)

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on the same side as Democrats clamoring for full-scale troop withdrawals.

The Republican presidential contender, in a mystical speech that also envisioned Osama bin Laden dead or captured, and Americans with the choice of paying a simple flat tax or following their standard 1040 form, said only a small number of troops would remain in Iraq by the end of a prospective first term because al-Qaida will have been defeated and Iraq's government will be functioning on its own.

"By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won," McCain told an audience of several hundred here in the capital city of a general election battleground state.

Later, as the Arizona senator drove to the airport on his "Straight Talk Express" campaign bus, McCain was peppered by reporters with questions about the timetable. He and his aides insisted there was a difference between ending the war and bringing troops home and, as they criticize the Democrats, announcing a withdrawal upfront without regard for the military endgame.

"It's not a timetable; it's victory. It's victory, which I have always predicted. I didn't know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win," McCain said.

The Vietnam veteran added: "I know from experience, you set a day for surrender _ which is basically what you do when you say you are withdrawing _ and you will pay a much a heavier price later on."

In the primary campaign, McCain had criticized former Republican rival Mitt Romney for hinting at a timetable.

Democrats challenged McCain's comments, led by presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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In a statement, the New York senator dismissed McCain and said he "promises more of the same Bush policies that have weakened our military, our national security and our standing in the world." The Barack Obama campaign said that while the candidate agrees with some of McCain's sentiments, "you cannot embrace the destructive policies and divisive political tactics of George Bush and still offer yourself as a candidate of healing and change."

Other Democrats equated McCain's comment with President Bush's May 1, 2003, speech on the deck of an aircraft carrier displaying a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

In his remarks, McCain peered through a crystal ball to 2013 and envisioned an era of bipartisanship driven by weekly news conferences and British-style question periods with joint meetings of Congress.

The senator conceded he cannot make the changes alone, but said he wanted to outline a specific governing style to show the accomplishments it can achieve. He backed up his remarks with a Web ad featuring similar content.

"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain said. "There is a time to campaign, and a time to govern. If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end; the era of problem-solving will begin."

To the disdain of some fellow Republicans, the likely GOP nominee has worked with Democrats on legislation aimed at overhauling campaign finance regulations, redrafting immigration rules and regulations and implementing government spending controls.

While that has cultivated a maverick image for McCain, the Arizona senator has also been accused of exhibiting a nasty temper _ swearing even at fellow lawmakers from his own party _ and unabashed partisanship.

In particular, McCain has clashed with the leading Democratic presidential contender, Barack Obama. After tangling with the Illinois senator on lobbying reforms, McCain questioned Obama's integrity in a publicly released 2006 letter.

McCain wrote he had thought Obama's interest in ethics legislation "was genuine and admirable," before adding: "Thank you for disabusing me of such notions." He accused Obama of "partisan posturing."

In outlining other potential achievements of a first term in his speech, the 71-year-old McCain implicitly was suggesting he would seek a second term, an attempt to mute suggestions he would serve only four years after being the oldest president elected.

In particular, he sees a world in which the Taliban threat in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced.

He added: "The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants. ... There still has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since Sept. 11, 2001."

McCain also pledged to halt a Bush administration practice of enacting laws with accompanying signing statements that exempt the president from having to enforce parts he finds objectionable.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on...
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican John McCain declared for the first time Thursday he believes the Iraq war can be won by 2013, although he rejected suggestions that his talk of a timetable put him on...
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- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

I think he should send his son so they can be the point man for daddy's war!! So they can come back with shinny medals. So they can call themselves war hero like the father. It not about the country it is about getting metals. This sounds just like George W Bush. I bet his son is getting the best brown nose treatment in the military. I am sick of this. Yes, they call him a war hero. I would like to tell him one thing the heros are the ones that never came back. The ones that are still live better thank GOD they are still alive. My brother never came back! So lets stop with the hero BS!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 05/16/2008

And . . . we should believe you . . . WHY?

Talk to me, buddy! My patience is running out! Bush just shot me in the butt today with his comments about Obama comparing him to Nazi appeasers . . . I'm holding on by a string here.

Damn, this is beginning to remind me of the Democrats back when they were crazy, disorganized and a joke to put it mildly. Damn, that is why I voted for Bush and I am living to regret it. Could it be . . . this is now who the Republicans are?

WELL, THIS IS IT . . . I believe I have just dropped into the Obama camp . . . thanks, Bush! It took your really stupid remarks today to finally cut my chord with the Republican Party. And, I am beginning to believe he is the only one who can really turn this country around . . . and perhaps the entire free and unfree world, too.

Why? Obama can . . . because he believes he can!

- - - what the hell ever happened to you, Bush? Thanks - you just convinced me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 05/16/2008

The Democrats definition of flip flop. You mischaracterize and take out of context what presumtive President McCain says, then say he has change when he makes another statement that is perfectly in tune with what he said earlier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 05/16/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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Ok, like saying he was willing to speak with Hamas but now isn't because his
"nice guy" campaign is willing to use it against Obama?
Flop, flop! Flip, flip!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 05/16/2008
- Rashnak I'm a Fan of Rashnak 5 fans permalink

Both sides guilty- Obama's usage of the 100 years comment was not what McCain meant and hopefully you are smart enough to know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 05/16/2008

McCain: wants more war
Obama: wants more war
Clinton: wants more war

WHAT'S the difference?
KUCINICH voted AGAINST the war (like, I believe, RON PAUL, & unlike Hillary & McCain) and against war funding (like, I believe, RON PAUL, & unlike Hillary, Obama, AND McCain) KUCINICH pushes for IMPEACHMENT & REAL ACCOUNTABILITY (unlike Hillary, Obama, AND McCain) .

How did we get stuck with three overhyped losers that support war (even though some of them PRETEND not to, you know those pretty little anti-war speeches to get elected so they can then feed the war machine)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 05/16/2008
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Your are just being infantile they is a clear difference between McCain and the Democratic candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/16/2008

I believe your confusion is shared by Kucinich. In a Democracy you need voter support to be a viable Candidate. If you're not able to garner that support it indicates that you're not very good at getting your message out or that your message doesn't resonate with voters. Why don't you pass that on to Kucinich for 2012?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 05/16/2008

Poor Republican! We know how you people hate it when the truth comes out. The Republican motto is, "It does not matter what the truth is, as long as you can stop people from learning the truth."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 05/16/2008
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Very interesting article in the NYT magazing discussing the Vietnam war vets in the Senate. There is allot between the lines but I find one passage very telling about McCain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18mccain-t.html?ref=politics

"There is a feeling among some of McCain’s fellow veterans that his break with them on Iraq can be traced, at least partly, to his markedly different experience in Vietnam. McCain’s comrades in the Senate will not talk about this publicly. They are wary of seeming to denigrate McCain’s service, marked by his legendary endurance in a Hanoi prison camp, when in fact they remain, to this day, in awe of it. And yet in private discussions with friends and colleagues, some of them have pointed out that McCain, who was shot down and captured in 1967, spent the worst and most costly years of the war sealed away, both from the rice paddies of Indochina and from the outside world. During those years, McCain did not share the disillusioning and morally jarring experiences of soldiers like Kerry, Webb and Hagel, who found themselves unable to recognize their enemy in the confusion of the jungle; he never underwent the conversion that caused Kerry, for one, to toss away some of his war decorations during a protest at the Capitol. Whatever anger McCain felt remained focused on his captors, not on his own superiors back in Washington."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 05/16/2008
- Rashnak I'm a Fan of Rashnak 5 fans permalink

Yeah- McCain was in that nice cushy Hanoi Hilton with fresh sheet service every day while Kerry was on his boat.

It is foolish to demean his service. That strategy is bound to fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 05/16/2008
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You are being overly sensitive. Read the whole article it shows how McCain's perspective of deploying forces changed over time. I was not demeaning his service at all. But it is interesting that every other Vietnam vet in the Senate has a different opinion on Iraq than McCain. I just thought this passage showed why he had a different view of the war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 05/16/2008

The American version of the former Soviet Union's "5 Year Plan". You can be sure that a Rethug president will make sure the war continues past the next election for President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 05/16/2008

Obama AND Hillary BOTH have plans to continue the war after Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 05/16/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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Watch out for McBush and his Lap Dog Joe LOOserman!

Lieberman On Bush Comparing Democrats To Nazi-Appeasers: "The President Got It Exactly Right"

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/lieberman-bush-appeasers/

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/16/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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Reporter calls McCain’s ‘2013′ speech a ‘magic carpet ride.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/reporter-calls-mccains-2013-speech-a-magic-carpet-ride/

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 05/15/2008
- droog I'm a Fan of droog 3 fans permalink

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You're pants are on fire and you are DONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/15/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 74 fans permalink
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My poor eyes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/16/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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As if once would not have sufficed....

Watching Japanese movie..... Kibakichi.... heh.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 05/16/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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Iraq Veteran: Why Is McCain ‘Fighting To Kill’ ‘My One Hope And Dream,’ To Go To College After War?

Today, nine members of Iraq Veterans Against the War testified before the Congressional Progressive Caucus about their experiences fighting in the Iraq war................

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/veterans-question-mccain-gi-bill/

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 05/15/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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Freaking Liar.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/15/2008

LET'S RID OURSELVES OF THE WORST WARMONGER IN THE BUNCH, MCCAIN NOW
http://www.petitiononline.com/JDAlvey1/petition.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/john-mccain-is-breaking-t_b_88434.html

Plus there's this:
Military Favors Ron Paul Over McCain " Delaware :: Ron Paul
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. ... (4. The Secret Government... Can you post the link to the petition so we can have this debate take place. ...
ronpauldelaware.wordpress.com/.../military-favors-ron-paul-over-mccain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 05/15/2008
- dotmafia I'm a Fan of dotmafia 45 fans permalink
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I very much urge people to read this post and please pass it along:

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/05/all-the-preside.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/15/2008

From a skim I'd have to say GOOD WORK!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/15/2008

John McCain talking about bi-partisanship and the Democrats responding with the same old obnoxious partisan comebacks is how he's going to beat you people in November. Keep it up Democrats. You're making this much easier for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 05/15/2008

Yawn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 05/15/2008
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He's not talking about bi-partisanship. It's in your imagination. He's talking about more Bush policies, and since when has that been bi-partisan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 05/15/2008

You idiot-Independents! are poling almost 3-1 for Obama The 27%-ers--I guess you call that "US" are finished,beaten and through!Hope you donate all your cash to the Repukes this year-your return on investment should be about ZERO! Get lost, troll!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 05/15/2008

Oh, save a few bucks for the Karl Rove Legal Defense Fund!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 05/15/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Sure - uh-huh - yeah, right. Bet you didn't pass history just like Bush and Kevin James.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 05/15/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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That was so fun to watch today..... goes to show talking points will not satisfy those who are educated..... and they call us the Kool-Aid drinking cultists.... hahahahaha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 05/15/2008

This is absolutely classic GOP textbook strategy. Whenever they are faced with a pickle, they say it will be resolved in 5 years.

Remember in 2004, Bush promised the deficit would be cut in half in 5 YEARS... not 4 years... but 5 YEARS.

This frees him of all responsibility if the debt is not cut in half. In fact, today the debt is at an all time high.

But anyway, this is classic because with McCain saying it will be won in 5 YEARS... it frees him of all responsibility.

But as I've been saying... we've already won in Iraq... weapons gone (check... not that they were there anyway), Saddam dead (check), free people (check... whatever, go be free).

There is no reason to stay there until 2013. Even the most stonch republican should say that we should of left in early 2007... as soon as Saddam was put to death. But we didn't do that, and thats because I believe theres another reason and a strong motive as to why Bush and his right wing friends want to stay in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 05/15/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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The five year plan, sounds so Mao and Stalin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 05/15/2008
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You beat me to the punch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 05/15/2008
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For people who remember history Stalin was famous for his 5 year plans. Of course after five years Stalin killed anyone after five years that could remember the plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 05/15/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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Well ... let's see. If we make ten times as much progress in the next five years as we've had in the last five years, we'll be out of there ...

... OMG. A hundred years won't be nearly enough.

What is we make fifty times as much progress as we've made in the last 5 years ??

Uh ... let's see ... 328 ... factor the growth of insurgents ... 948 ... factor not being able to seal the borders without at least a million boots on the ground ... carry the 10 ... mmmmm ... square root of unemployed men times the number of hours they don't have electricity ... times years of sectarian suppression of one faction by another ...

... 4,276 ...

... times suicide bombers cubed ...

Uh ... no. It'll still be 943 years before we "win" the war - the war that, according to Bush AND our own military commanders, cannot have a military solution.

So ... you're talking out of your ass. There can be and will be no "victory" in any military sense, because we're NOT going to commit genocide on the entire Iraqi population. The only "solution" to Iraq is to leave.

Your calculations are faulty, because they fail to factor in the Iraqis themselves, over which we have ZERO control. And since we have ZERO control over the Iraqis, prognostications about how long our mission will take are nothing but horseshit.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 05/15/2008
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