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ADAM GOLDMAN and ROBERT TANNER | May 15, 2008 06:18 PM EST | AP

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This undated photo provided by the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shows the Democratic presidential hopeful, Obama, in New York City, while a student at Columbia University. Obama received his B.A. degree in political science in 1983 from Columbia. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)

NEW YORK — The way Sohale Siddiqi remembers it, he and his old roommate were walking his pug Charlie on Broadway when a large, scary bum approached them, stomping on the ground near the dog's head.

This was in the 1980s, a time when New York was a fearful place beset by drugs and crime, when the street smart knew that the best way to handle the city's derelicts was to avoid them entirely. But Siddiqi was angry and he confronted the bum, who approached him menacingly.

Until his skinny, Ivy League-educated friend _ Barack Obama _ intervened.

He "stepped right in between. ... He planted his face firmly in the face of the guy. `Hey, hey, hey.' And the guy backpedaled and we kept walking," Siddiqi recalls.

There was a time before Obama wore tailored suits _ when his wardrobe consisted of $5 military-surplus khakis and used leather jackets, and he walked the streets of Manhattan for lack of bus fare. It was a time well before the political arena beckoned, when his friends thought he might become a writer or a lawyer, but certainly not the first black man with a real chance to become president of the United States.

Obama spent the six years between 1979 and 1985 at Occidental College in Los Angeles and then in New York at Columbia University and in the workplace. His memoir, "Dreams from My Father," talks about this time, but not in great detail; Siddiqi, for example, is identified only as "Sadik" _ "a short, well-built Pakistani" who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party.

Obama's campaign wouldn't identify "Sadik," but The Associated Press located him in Seattle, where he raises money for a community theater.

Together, the recollections of Siddiqi and other friends and acquaintances from Obama's college years paint a portrait of the candidate as a young man.

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They remember a good student with a sharp mind and unshakable integrity, a young man who already had a passion for the underprivileged. Some described the young Obama's personality as confident to the point of arrogance, a criticism that would emerge decades later, during the campaign.

Not everyone who knew Obama in those years is eager to talk.

Some explained that they feared inadvertently hurting Obama's campaign. Among his friends were Siddiqi and two other Pakistanis, all of them from Karachi; several of those interviewed said the Pakistanis were reluctant to talk for fear of stoking rumors that Obama is a Muslim.

"Obama in the eyes of some right wingers is basically Muslim until proved innocent," says Margot Mifflin, a friend from Occidental who is now a journalism professor at New York's Lehman College. "It's partly the Muslim factor by association and partly the fear of something being twisted."

The young man Mifflin remembers was "an unpretentious, down to earth, solidly middle-class guy who seemed somewhat more sophisticated than the average college student. He was slightly reserved and deliberate in a way that I sometimes thought betrayed an uncertainty."

But another former Oxy classmate, Robert McCrary, now general manager of a contract sewing company, saw him differently: "He definitely had a cocky, sometimes arrogant way about him. ... He was not open to others."

Of course, he was only 18 when he arrived at the small liberal arts college nicknamed "Oxy." His freshman roommates were Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker, and Paul Carpenter, now a Los Angeles lawyer.

Carpenter recalled Obama as "a good bodysurfer" who had "a funky red car, a Fiat," and who also played intramurals _ flag football, tennis and water polo. "He was an athletic guy. He was gifted in that regard," said Carpenter. He also remembered Obama being "super bright. He could get through the course work in a fraction of the time it took me."

Obama had an international circle of friends _ "a real eclectic sort of group," says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India.

As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis. There were others, Thummalapally recalls: a French student and both black and white Americans, including Jon K. Mitchell, who later played bass for country-swing band Asleep at the Wheel (Mitchell remembers that Obama wore puka shell necklaces all the time, though they were not in style, and that "we let it slide because he spent a lot of time growing up in Hawaii.")

The friends got together often to watch basketball games _ they were Lakers fans _ and eat the southern Indian food that Thummalapally cooked with his cousin.

There was serious talk, too. Obama had concerns about U.S. foreign policy _ including the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran under Jimmy Carter, and American support of the Contras in Latin America.

Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.

"I want to get into public service," he recalls Obama saying. "I want to write and help people who are disadvantaged."

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In 1981, Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia. In between, he traveled to Pakistan _ a trip that enhanced his foreign policy qualifications, he maintained in a private speech at a San Francisco fundraiser last month. Obama spent "about three weeks" in Pakistan, traveling with Hamid and staying in Karachi with Chandoo's family, said Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary.

"He was clearly shocked by the economic disparity he saw in Pakistan. He couldn't get over the sight of rural peasants bowing to the wealthy landowners they worked for as they passed," says Margot Mifflin, who makes a brief appearance in Obama's memoir.

When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Siddiqi _ a friend of Chandoo's and Hamid's from Karachi who had visited Los Angeles. Looking back, Siddiqi acknowledges that he and Obama were an odd couple. Siddiqi would mock Obama's idealism _ he just wanted to make a lot of money and buy things, while Obama wanted to help the poor.

"At that age, I thought he was a saint and a square, and he took himself too seriously," Siddiqi said. "I would ask him why he was so serious. He was genuinely concerned with the plight of the poor. He'd give me lectures, which I found very boring. He must have found me very irritating."

Siddiqi offered the most expansive account of Obama as a young man.

"We were both very lost. We were both alienated, although he might not put it that way. He arrived disheveled and without a place to stay," said Siddiqi, who at the time worked as a waiter and as a salesman at a boutique.

The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama's time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won't, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan's Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn _ one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street. Siddiqi managed to get the apartment thanks to subterfuge.

"We didn't have a chance in hell of getting this apartment unless we fabricated the lease application," Siddiqi said.

Siddiqi fudged his credentials, saying he had a high-paying job at a catering company, but Obama "wanted no part of it. He put down the truth."

The apartment was "a slum of a place" in a drug-ridden neighborhood filled with gunshots, he said. "It wasn't a comfortable existence. We were slumming it." What little furniture they had was found on the street, and guests would have to hold their dinner plates in their laps.

While Obama has acknowledged using marijuana and cocaine during high school in Hawaii, he writes in the memoir that he stopped using soon after his arrival in New York. His roommate had no such scruples.

But Siddiqi says that during their time together here, Obama always refused his offers of drugs.

In his memoir and in interviews, Obama has said he got serious and buckled down in New York. "I didn't socialize that much. I was like a monk," he said in a 2005 Columbia alumni magazine interview. He told biographer David Mendell: "For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot."

In his memoir, Obama recalls fasting on Sunday; Siddiqi says Obama was a follower of comedian-activist Dick Gregory's vegetarian diet. "I think self-deprivation was his schtick, denying himself pleasure, good food and all of that."

But it wasn't exactly an ascetic life. There was plenty of time for reading (Gabriel Garcia Marquez, V.S. Naipaul) and listening to music (Van Morrison, the Ohio Players, Bob Dylan). The two, along with others, went out for nights on the town. "He wasn't entirely a hermit," Siddiqi said.

Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was "a hunk."

"We were always competing," he said. "You know how it is. You go to a bar and you try hitting on the girls. He had a lot more success. I wouldn't out-compete him in picking up girls, that's for sure."

Obama was a tolerant roommate. Siddiqi's mother, who had never been around a black man, came to visit and she was rude; Obama was nothing but polite. Siddiqi himself could be intemperate _ he called Obama an Uncle Tom, but "he was really patient. I'm surprised he suffered me."

Finally, their relationship started to fray. "I was partying all the time. I was disrupting his studies," Siddiqi said. Obama moved out.

In July 1985, after spending two years as a writer for a business newsletter and as a coordinator at City College in Harlem for an environmental and consumer advocacy group, Obama left New York for Chicago _ where he found a job, a wife and, eventually, a political career.

___

Andrew Roth knew Obama at Occidental and in New York. He speaks bluntly: "The thought, believe me, never crossed my mind that he would be our first black president."

And yet, here he is, on the brink of the Democratic nomination. And he's gotten there with the help of some of those friends from so long ago.

Neither Hamid nor Chandoo would be interviewed for this story; Hamid is now a top executive at Pepsico in New York, and Chandoo is a self-employed financial consultant in the New York area.

Both have each contributed the maximum $2,300 to Obama's campaign, and records indicate each has joined an Asian-American council that supports his run for president. Both also are listed on Obama's campaign Web site as being among his top fundraisers, each bringing in between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions from their networks of friends.

Both also attended Obama's wedding in 1992, according to published reports and other friends.

Thummalapally has stayed in contact with Obama, too, visiting him in New York, attending his wedding in 1992 and joining him in Springfield, Ill., for the Feb. 10, 2007, announcement of Obama's run for the White House.

President of a CD and DVD manufacturing company in Colorado Springs, Colo., Thummalapally also is listed as a top fundraiser on the campaign Web site.

Siddiqi has not kept in touch. His has been a difficult road; years after his time with Obama, Siddiqi says, he became addicted to cocaine and lost his business.

But when he needed help during his recovery, Obama _ the roommate he drove away with his partying, the man he always suspected of looking down at him _ gave him a job reference.

So yes, he's an Obama man, too. Witness the message on his answering machine:

"My name is Hal Siddiqi, and I approve of this message. Vote for peace, vote for hope, vote for change, and vote for Obama."

___

Associated Press writers Deborah Hastings in New York, Justin Pritchard in Los Angeles, Gene Johnson in Seattle, and AP researchers Judith Ausuebel and Barbara Sambriski contributed to this story.

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Great article, but this will be used against him for the Pakistani friends however, it will not work. What an impressive man.

Obama 2008

Someone that has always dreamed of helping others, our next POTUS! Yes!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 05/16/2008
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 12 fans permalink

While you contemplate Obama's 'dreams' of helping the poor and downtrodden, ask yourself this. Why are so many of the poor in America, the blue-collar workers whom Obama and his supporters routinely mock as uneducated and clinging to guns and bibles, voting mostly for Hillary?

Does their lack of education, of which you Obama supporters remind us daily on this site, mean they are all just a bunch of bigots? Or, have these poor fools, who do not have the luxury of fantasy, figured out something about Obama, that you are ignoring?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 05/16/2008
- mortrefuge I'm a Fan of mortrefuge 12 fans permalink

Perhaps they have limited sources of information, therefore they lean towards the familiar even if it is slightly tarnished. Perhaps they are easily manipulated hearing their trusted sources of information telling them the things that push their buttons. Maybe they believe what they hear, whether or not the information is true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 05/16/2008

It's because they let fear of what they are not familiar with control their destiny. Instead of trying to understand why they fear things that are unfamiliar and try to combat it, is my guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/16/2008
- sky2evan I'm a Fan of sky2evan 9 fans permalink

rblackbird,

60% of WV voters rated the economy as the #1 issue, and yet 67% voted for Clinton... the $109 million candidate who is $20 million in debt.

Republicans are not the only ones who lack good judgment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 05/16/2008

Yeah... lets get some of the quotes, these enlightened opinions that I just can't seem to grasp for some reason... I guess it's my eagerness to lean towards facts, that we've seen from the news:

"He's a Muslim and you know that has a lot to do with it... I know he did but I don't believe him" - clear cut example of willful disregard for information. Or is it my willful luxury of fantasy?

"I guess cuz he's another race, I'm sort of scared of the other race cuz we have so much conflict with 'em." - clear cut example of WTF? I didn't realize the 1 black person to every 9 white people she's referring to was such a problem for the majority! But I'll just ignore that pearl of wisdom...

"I don't like the Hussein thing. I've had enough of Hussein." - I rest my case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 05/16/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 78 fans permalink

As a foreigner observing this I would say that the lower middle class is still too
prejudiced and that will prevent them from voting for Obama. Nothing else matters
to them. If the word "muslim" crops up they gladly accept it and justify their
reasoning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/16/2008

OK. We can all see where this is going, and I'd bet it's going to continue to get even uglier ...

Pakistani Muslim buddies in his past, a recent story creeping up the other day titled something to the effect 'Does Obama really new the Jewish vote', Bush's speech in Israeli and the sneaky worded - nonetheless obvious - yesterday, Lieberman's statement yesterday, and on and on.

We get it. This 'he's a secret Muslim' thing -- coupled with Reverand Wright explosive rantings -- is going to continue to dog Obama.

And it's not going to be win over the West Virginia esq voting base.

But, seems it's better for public consumption and discussion now, as opposed to October/November in terms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 05/15/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 78 fans permalink

Last I checked on the net Obama is AIPAC just like Hillary and the rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 05/16/2008

It seems that Obama has more of a history of living in New York than carpetbagger Hillary does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/15/2008
- candyc I'm a Fan of candyc 14 fans permalink

This is really interesting. I'm sending it to everyone I know.
I'm pinching myself. Could we possibly be lucky enough to have this guy as our new POTUS?
omigod. Please let it be true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 05/15/2008
- Rianna I'm a Fan of Rianna 13 fans permalink

This is an amazing story. To think that Clinton and McCain called Obama an Elitist!!!

Obama is a true American success story. He has lived a life of hardship, and in this article, one can
see how loyal, patient, and brilliant he is. It is a shame that this part of his life, is unknown to the voters.
If they want to vote for someone who would understand their hardship, and the problems they face; Obama would be that candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 05/15/2008
- wagadog I'm a Fan of wagadog 47 fans permalink

I nearly cried when I read this.

Obama has real Aloha...and what we call in New Zealand "Mana."

Aloha is that effective compassion and calm and being centered and grounded.

Mana is almost untranslatable, except that when you see it you know it...it's the accumulation of wisdom in action, the good deeds with good intent that make people instinctively look up to him.

Obama is not only going to be our first mixed-race black-white president...

...he's going to be our first Pacific president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 05/15/2008
- undecidee I'm a Fan of undecidee 4 fans permalink

What a common story of life as a struggling student. Who would have thought that a young man whose only thoughts were to help others would end up being a nominee of the democratic party and quite possibly the POTUS.

It is a pity if people does not vote for him because of his name or because they are scared that he will bring our soldiers home from Iraq without first making sure that we WIN the war. Or that he will remove the tax cuts for the wealth and give it to the middle class... something like Robin Hood. Or believes that his wife is not proud to be an American. (BTW, I never tell people that I am an American when I am in another country because I am actually ashamed to be an American because of GWB and his wars).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 05/15/2008

the guy sure has a disproportionate number of pakistani buddies for an american kid
maybe he was trying to discover the heritage behind his middle name...

before you knock down my post... can you respond to this poll....
polling obamabots.... : how many close pakistani friends did you have in college??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 05/15/2008
- jpcline004 I'm a Fan of jpcline004 11 fans permalink

Hussein isn't Pakistani jack@ss. I'm sure all brown people look the same to you though.

News flash, good universities have diverse student bodies and yes we do become friends with each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 05/15/2008
- bentenrai I'm a Fan of bentenrai 3 fans permalink

Go find out yourself, the guy is pretty transparent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 05/15/2008
- atienne I'm a Fan of atienne 32 fans permalink
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Snobama, do you get out much and meet people? I had Pakastani friends and I live in rural Pa.!! I also did in college. It's amazing how if you come out of your bubble, you actually meet people that...may be...gee, I don't know...DIFFERENT than you? It's not a bad thing, trust! I have friends from all over the world and I would never trade my experiences with them for anything. Is it BAD to have friends from different lands? Do you have any friends at all? You seem very mistrustful. And that, my friend, is a problem that you need to take care of within your own heart!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 05/15/2008

allow me to knock down your post ...

i was at Occidental College from 83-87, so just two years after Obama left for Columbia. i'm a white guy and i grew up in a republican family, however i had a very similar experience to his in that about half of my circle of friends were international students. two friends were from Pakistan, others from Sri Lanka, India, South Korea, Venezuala, Columbia, Chile, Mexico, Peru, Brazil, Iceland - you get the picture. each year Oxy matriculated about 425 new students, of which probably about 30 were foreign students. from my recollection, Pakistan was always well represented. [years later, when i was a trustee of the college, i figured out why foreign students are attractive to the college (besides the obvious value of diversity) -- they almost always pay full tuition and board.]

so, no, it was not at all unusual in the 80s to have college friends from Pakistan, especially at the better colleges like Oxy and if one was open to learning different perspectives. and i might add that Pakistan was not a hotbed of islamic radicalism in those days, indeed my friends from that region were generally secular or minimally observant, smoke, drank, went to cramps and ramones concerts, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 05/15/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

There are a lot in the military. So what are you saying? So if I have many pakistani friends in the military would you see that as a problem. This is stupid!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 05/15/2008

Buddies with Pakistani Muslim... coke was snorted... OK, well, that's all we need to know. Thanks, we'll get back in touch if we need you. No, really, thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/15/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

Obama writes in his book about his job at a New York newsletter publisher but what Obama writes is mostly fiction. In his book he tells about seeing his reflection in the shiny elevator doors, wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase, and imagining himself a captain of industry. He claims to go out to interview Japanese bond traders, but none of it is true. In a blog about 5 people that worked with Obama made comments, said he was aloof, never wore a suit, never left the office, never interviewed ANYBODY for ANYTHING. From reading that blog it's easy to see that Obama is a legend in his own mind, blowing up anything he does far past the reality. Obama always talks about being a "community organizer", can someone tell me what that means and what he actually did?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 05/15/2008

Hank48188 - " Obama writes in his book about his job at a New York newsletter publisher but what Obama writes is mostly fiction".

I suggest you spend more time doing "your own research" instead of replying on republican web sites before you discredit his books as fiction! Please provide the resources for the information are quoting. I would bet a pay check you've never even read his books?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 05/16/2008
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Dig the 'fro.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/15/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 31 fans permalink

He drove a Fiat...OMG there is noway I could vote for him again.......he just doesn't understand what it feels like to have nothing......With him living this type of life there is noway he could every understand what it feels like to wonder if you're going to have enough gas to make it to work all week......

OBAMA08!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/15/2008
- ann1 I'm a Fan of ann1 12 fans permalink

What a very down to earth future President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/15/2008
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That is an inspiring story. A reflection of intent and purpose in a man who from all accounts really eschewed material things at an early age. One cannot help but think of Ghandi and how he too decided to help his people.

Not very many Ivy League lawyers would have chosen that path to the Presidency.

Considering the elitist label that was being pinned on Obama a documentary on the early Obama would be useful to help put some focus on young Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/15/2008
- DavidMG I'm a Fan of DavidMG 13 fans permalink
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This is one highly evolved human being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/15/2008
- paragrafH I'm a Fan of paragrafH 5 fans permalink

Yes. A very good way to put it. And isn't it heartening to learn that the man of integrity we see now is the same in so many respects as the man he was then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/15/2008
- devadasi I'm a Fan of devadasi 26 fans permalink

I agree with you DavidMG....Obama is one evolved human being. The crudeness and crassness of people that don't get that is fascinating. His presidency will create a much needed shift of consciousness in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/15/2008
- DavidMG I'm a Fan of DavidMG 13 fans permalink
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This a beautiful discussion. So much heart. Thank you posters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/15/2008
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