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ADAM GOLDMAN and ROBERT TANNER | May 15, 2008 06:18 PM EST | AP

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This undated photo provided by the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shows the Democratic presidential hopeful, Obama, in New York City, while a student at Columbia University. Obama received his B.A. degree in political science in 1983 from Columbia. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)

NEW YORK — The way Sohale Siddiqi remembers it, he and his old roommate were walking his pug Charlie on Broadway when a large, scary bum approached them, stomping on the ground near the dog's head.

This was in the 1980s, a time when New York was a fearful place beset by drugs and crime, when the street smart knew that the best way to handle the city's derelicts was to avoid them entirely. But Siddiqi was angry and he confronted the bum, who approached him menacingly.

Until his skinny, Ivy League-educated friend _ Barack Obama _ intervened.

He "stepped right in between. ... He planted his face firmly in the face of the guy. `Hey, hey, hey.' And the guy backpedaled and we kept walking," Siddiqi recalls.

There was a time before Obama wore tailored suits _ when his wardrobe consisted of $5 military-surplus khakis and used leather jackets, and he walked the streets of Manhattan for lack of bus fare. It was a time well before the political arena beckoned, when his friends thought he might become a writer or a lawyer, but certainly not the first black man with a real chance to become president of the United States.

Obama spent the six years between 1979 and 1985 at Occidental College in Los Angeles and then in New York at Columbia University and in the workplace. His memoir, "Dreams from My Father," talks about this time, but not in great detail; Siddiqi, for example, is identified only as "Sadik" _ "a short, well-built Pakistani" who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party.

Obama's campaign wouldn't identify "Sadik," but The Associated Press located him in Seattle, where he raises money for a community theater.

Together, the recollections of Siddiqi and other friends and acquaintances from Obama's college years paint a portrait of the candidate as a young man.

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They remember a good student with a sharp mind and unshakable integrity, a young man who already had a passion for the underprivileged. Some described the young Obama's personality as confident to the point of arrogance, a criticism that would emerge decades later, during the campaign.

Not everyone who knew Obama in those years is eager to talk.

Some explained that they feared inadvertently hurting Obama's campaign. Among his friends were Siddiqi and two other Pakistanis, all of them from Karachi; several of those interviewed said the Pakistanis were reluctant to talk for fear of stoking rumors that Obama is a Muslim.

"Obama in the eyes of some right wingers is basically Muslim until proved innocent," says Margot Mifflin, a friend from Occidental who is now a journalism professor at New York's Lehman College. "It's partly the Muslim factor by association and partly the fear of something being twisted."

The young man Mifflin remembers was "an unpretentious, down to earth, solidly middle-class guy who seemed somewhat more sophisticated than the average college student. He was slightly reserved and deliberate in a way that I sometimes thought betrayed an uncertainty."

But another former Oxy classmate, Robert McCrary, now general manager of a contract sewing company, saw him differently: "He definitely had a cocky, sometimes arrogant way about him. ... He was not open to others."

Of course, he was only 18 when he arrived at the small liberal arts college nicknamed "Oxy." His freshman roommates were Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker, and Paul Carpenter, now a Los Angeles lawyer.

Carpenter recalled Obama as "a good bodysurfer" who had "a funky red car, a Fiat," and who also played intramurals _ flag football, tennis and water polo. "He was an athletic guy. He was gifted in that regard," said Carpenter. He also remembered Obama being "super bright. He could get through the course work in a fraction of the time it took me."

Obama had an international circle of friends _ "a real eclectic sort of group," says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India.

As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis. There were others, Thummalapally recalls: a French student and both black and white Americans, including Jon K. Mitchell, who later played bass for country-swing band Asleep at the Wheel (Mitchell remembers that Obama wore puka shell necklaces all the time, though they were not in style, and that "we let it slide because he spent a lot of time growing up in Hawaii.")

The friends got together often to watch basketball games _ they were Lakers fans _ and eat the southern Indian food that Thummalapally cooked with his cousin.

There was serious talk, too. Obama had concerns about U.S. foreign policy _ including the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran under Jimmy Carter, and American support of the Contras in Latin America.

Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.

"I want to get into public service," he recalls Obama saying. "I want to write and help people who are disadvantaged."

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In 1981, Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia. In between, he traveled to Pakistan _ a trip that enhanced his foreign policy qualifications, he maintained in a private speech at a San Francisco fundraiser last month. Obama spent "about three weeks" in Pakistan, traveling with Hamid and staying in Karachi with Chandoo's family, said Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary.

"He was clearly shocked by the economic disparity he saw in Pakistan. He couldn't get over the sight of rural peasants bowing to the wealthy landowners they worked for as they passed," says Margot Mifflin, who makes a brief appearance in Obama's memoir.

When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Siddiqi _ a friend of Chandoo's and Hamid's from Karachi who had visited Los Angeles. Looking back, Siddiqi acknowledges that he and Obama were an odd couple. Siddiqi would mock Obama's idealism _ he just wanted to make a lot of money and buy things, while Obama wanted to help the poor.

"At that age, I thought he was a saint and a square, and he took himself too seriously," Siddiqi said. "I would ask him why he was so serious. He was genuinely concerned with the plight of the poor. He'd give me lectures, which I found very boring. He must have found me very irritating."

Siddiqi offered the most expansive account of Obama as a young man.

"We were both very lost. We were both alienated, although he might not put it that way. He arrived disheveled and without a place to stay," said Siddiqi, who at the time worked as a waiter and as a salesman at a boutique.

The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama's time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won't, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan's Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn _ one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street. Siddiqi managed to get the apartment thanks to subterfuge.

"We didn't have a chance in hell of getting this apartment unless we fabricated the lease application," Siddiqi said.

Siddiqi fudged his credentials, saying he had a high-paying job at a catering company, but Obama "wanted no part of it. He put down the truth."

The apartment was "a slum of a place" in a drug-ridden neighborhood filled with gunshots, he said. "It wasn't a comfortable existence. We were slumming it." What little furniture they had was found on the street, and guests would have to hold their dinner plates in their laps.

While Obama has acknowledged using marijuana and cocaine during high school in Hawaii, he writes in the memoir that he stopped using soon after his arrival in New York. His roommate had no such scruples.

But Siddiqi says that during their time together here, Obama always refused his offers of drugs.

In his memoir and in interviews, Obama has said he got serious and buckled down in New York. "I didn't socialize that much. I was like a monk," he said in a 2005 Columbia alumni magazine interview. He told biographer David Mendell: "For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot."

In his memoir, Obama recalls fasting on Sunday; Siddiqi says Obama was a follower of comedian-activist Dick Gregory's vegetarian diet. "I think self-deprivation was his schtick, denying himself pleasure, good food and all of that."

But it wasn't exactly an ascetic life. There was plenty of time for reading (Gabriel Garcia Marquez, V.S. Naipaul) and listening to music (Van Morrison, the Ohio Players, Bob Dylan). The two, along with others, went out for nights on the town. "He wasn't entirely a hermit," Siddiqi said.

Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was "a hunk."

"We were always competing," he said. "You know how it is. You go to a bar and you try hitting on the girls. He had a lot more success. I wouldn't out-compete him in picking up girls, that's for sure."

Obama was a tolerant roommate. Siddiqi's mother, who had never been around a black man, came to visit and she was rude; Obama was nothing but polite. Siddiqi himself could be intemperate _ he called Obama an Uncle Tom, but "he was really patient. I'm surprised he suffered me."

Finally, their relationship started to fray. "I was partying all the time. I was disrupting his studies," Siddiqi said. Obama moved out.

In July 1985, after spending two years as a writer for a business newsletter and as a coordinator at City College in Harlem for an environmental and consumer advocacy group, Obama left New York for Chicago _ where he found a job, a wife and, eventually, a political career.

___

Andrew Roth knew Obama at Occidental and in New York. He speaks bluntly: "The thought, believe me, never crossed my mind that he would be our first black president."

And yet, here he is, on the brink of the Democratic nomination. And he's gotten there with the help of some of those friends from so long ago.

Neither Hamid nor Chandoo would be interviewed for this story; Hamid is now a top executive at Pepsico in New York, and Chandoo is a self-employed financial consultant in the New York area.

Both have each contributed the maximum $2,300 to Obama's campaign, and records indicate each has joined an Asian-American council that supports his run for president. Both also are listed on Obama's campaign Web site as being among his top fundraisers, each bringing in between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions from their networks of friends.

Both also attended Obama's wedding in 1992, according to published reports and other friends.

Thummalapally has stayed in contact with Obama, too, visiting him in New York, attending his wedding in 1992 and joining him in Springfield, Ill., for the Feb. 10, 2007, announcement of Obama's run for the White House.

President of a CD and DVD manufacturing company in Colorado Springs, Colo., Thummalapally also is listed as a top fundraiser on the campaign Web site.

Siddiqi has not kept in touch. His has been a difficult road; years after his time with Obama, Siddiqi says, he became addicted to cocaine and lost his business.

But when he needed help during his recovery, Obama _ the roommate he drove away with his partying, the man he always suspected of looking down at him _ gave him a job reference.

So yes, he's an Obama man, too. Witness the message on his answering machine:

"My name is Hal Siddiqi, and I approve of this message. Vote for peace, vote for hope, vote for change, and vote for Obama."

___

Associated Press writers Deborah Hastings in New York, Justin Pritchard in Los Angeles, Gene Johnson in Seattle, and AP researchers Judith Ausuebel and Barbara Sambriski contributed to this story.

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- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Oh goodness i can see how the GOP will spin this. I mean wanting to help Poor people all your life you know thats a NO NO in AMerica its a bad thing its the evil socialist rearing its head. We dont help Poor people in this country we help RICH people and let Poor people fend for themselves.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/15/2008
- SShaw490 I'm a Fan of SShaw490 38 fans permalink

Well, helping the rich get richer makes enough crumbs fall from their tables that everyone can have at least one crumb a day. So helping the rich helps the poor, too. See?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/15/2008

Yes, we have seen how well that works in the real world...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/15/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

I'm waiting to hear those ads on the radio where Obama explains "when things get rough I will always stand with the muslims" that should win some votes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/15/2008
- GBecker I'm a Fan of GBecker 3 fans permalink

Hold your breath while you're waiting, ok? Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 05/15/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Its better than the REPUGS and George Bush's mantra: when things get rough I will STAND on the backs of middle class America while I take a DUMP on the constituion of the US. The difference is one is SPECULATION and the OTHER IS FACTUAL guess which is which.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 05/15/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 05/15/2008
- DAVESEAN I'm a Fan of DAVESEAN 3 fans permalink

GOD BLESS OBAMA FOR GIVING SADIQ A JOB REFERENCE EVEN AFTER HE WAS THROWN OUT OF THE HOUSE BY THE SAME MAN...SUCH A BENEVOLENT SPIRIT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/15/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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what a great American story.

makes me proud!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/15/2008
- pearbrandy I'm a Fan of pearbrandy 3 fans permalink

Old friends recall George W Bush's early days as being squandered (as have all his days) and spent in an indulged, privileged, alcoholic haze - dodging the draft and getting all kinds of help from daddy's friends because "Dumb as a Post" Dubya needed all the help he could get to tie his shoelaces.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 05/15/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 05/15/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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I'm sorry. How many years did Barack go to college?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 05/15/2008
- SShaw490 I'm a Fan of SShaw490 38 fans permalink

When I was young - from age 8 to age 12 - I grew up in Saudi Arabia, around the time of the Six Day War. I remember being in Cairo seeing starving children on the streets covered with flies; I remember being in Bankok and seeing people living on rafts in the river because that's the best they had; I remember being in Beirut and seeing beggars sitting at the entrance to a gold market, and how strange that juxtaposition of weath and need was. I also remember going to normal Saudi people's houses, and they were so hospitable and so inviting; I remember noticing they didn't sleep on beds and they said it was because they liked to sleep on the roof at night, and I thought that was the neatest thing in the world. I remember being in Switzerland and seeing shop owners literally washing the street in front of their shops to start the day; I remember the ruis of Greece and Rome. There's nothing more impactful in a young person's life than seeing the way the rest of the world lives.

People think a president should have experience in the military or he's not really ready for the job. I think a president needs experience living overseas, really being immersed in another culture, or he's not really ready for the job. I think Barack Obama is ready.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/15/2008

I TOTALLY agree! Traveling and living in other places is the best way to understand our place in the world. Every president needs to have had that education!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 05/15/2008

absolutely...

i should encourage my mexican gardner and guatemalan cook to run for president...

after all they has as much foreign policy experience as obama based on their upbringing and travels ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 05/15/2008
- pertello I'm a Fan of pertello 5 fans permalink

Wow. The true man is known in his youth. Take away the polish and flair and we see a young Obama. And it is still such an admirable picture. The more I learn about Obama the more I am so happy that he may be our next president. I just hope he gives back what the Rove McCain Bush pigs will be throwing at him. I hope he plays it as tough as they do. If he thought Hillary was tough he hasn't been on the receiving end of Karl Rove's mudslinging. He should go have a talk with Kerry. And Gore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 05/15/2008
- SShaw490 I'm a Fan of SShaw490 38 fans permalink

He seems to have an impervious nature about mudslinging and stuff like that, like he just doesn't notice it very much. I think he just knows it's false, that it's a lie and as such he doesn't pay it any attention. It's a good thing - he's going to get a lot of it. But he's the right man at the right place at the right time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 05/15/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 60 fans permalink
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I guess if he doesn't bow to the wealthy land owners, he is perceived as arrogant. Listen to him, though, and it is all about the message, and the voter. Listen to Hillary, and it is all about her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 05/15/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

At least there a re some recollections of him in LA,,,We have no recollections of him in Illinois... Except for Rezkow, Farrakhan,Wright, Emil jones and Blagojovich

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/15/2008
- Purobi I'm a Fan of Purobi 14 fans permalink

Sounds like it is indeed your memory problem. Focus Factor????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 05/15/2008
- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

And all the papers for the Illinois time are missing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/15/2008
- ProfEvil I'm a Fan of ProfEvil 2 fans permalink

For a young man at that age to say all he wants to do in life is to help people is a remarkable thing.
These are things I just started thinking about in my early thirties.
The more I read or hear things about his childhood, the more I respect and admire him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 05/15/2008

Meh, I don't think that "wanting to help poor people" is that odd for young people, especially for those with more international backgrounds. It's very hip to be a socialist or communist when you're young. I'm American, but grew up in Asian & Europe and went to many Intl schools. Socialism & communism was the fad and so everyone felt the need to prove just how much more they care about the poor. I was a communist from 14-16, then became a socialist and now I've become less of a "bleeding heart liberal." I go to Columbia, which has a tradition of student social activism so it doesn't impress me that Obama was like that when he was in college. That is just being another number among the self-righteous crowd. I've grown more cynical about all the self-righteousness in this fad. Most of these do-gooders only care about the poor because they know that is the road for political power. Obama has learned how to play the political game. I'm sure the "poor" are on the least of his priorities now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/16/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 91 fans permalink
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"I'm sure the "poor" are on the least of his priorities now." ???

I'm sure you are wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 05/17/2008
- gregrocker I'm a Fan of gregrocker 8 fans permalink

Radio comedy guy Phil Hendrie on L.A.'s progressive talk says Obama has a hidden arrest in L.A. which needs to come out soon. Now Hendrie pretends to be for Obama but I dont' trust him since in a previous radio gig on KFI, he lost a million fans being the biggest pro-war bully on the radio (and that's sayin a lot). But if it is true, I agree it needs to come out asap and I hope someone with the Obama campaign follows up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 05/15/2008
- Syco I'm a Fan of Syco 4 fans permalink
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0you have to find proof first

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/15/2008

phil hendrie voted for bush in '04.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hendrie

that's all i need to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/15/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 91 fans permalink
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"biggest pro-war bully on the radio" is for Obama???

DUBIOUS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/17/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 91 fans permalink
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"Radio comedy guy Phil Hendrie on L.A.'s progressive talk" ???

PROGRESSIVE TALK is the new buzz word for the Republican Lite. These are conservatives who want to distance themselves from the losing GOP and Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/17/2008

I don't understand how this article make Mr Obama look good. We were planning on releasing the same exact story as a hit piece. I mean he drove a Fiat for Christ's sake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 05/15/2008
- barrista I'm a Fan of barrista 8 fans permalink

If this was your idea of a hit-piece, you're pretty weak on the attacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 05/15/2008
- uheardme I'm a Fan of uheardme 10 fans permalink

sarcasm i think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/15/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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It only doesn't make him look good if you're xenophobic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/15/2008
- bessie1 I'm a Fan of bessie1 4 fans permalink

Day 4 of the flag pin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 05/15/2008
- PaulLoeb I'm a Fan of PaulLoeb 11 fans permalink

People mature and learn ethics along the way, but it's nice to read that he always seemed like a basically decent person to his friends. And as I learned reading Dreams From My Father, he's someone who's kept crossing all sorts of different worlds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/15/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

No elitist would let Barack Obama into his society, this guy didn't even have bus fare. Hillary on the other hand was eating high on the hog and this guy is an elitist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 05/15/2008
- IslandGyal I'm a Fan of IslandGyal 50 fans permalink
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He slept in an alley-way the first night in NYC, because he didn't have money for a hotel room. Also, when he visited his brother in DC and the brother was having marital problems, he couldn't stay at his house, so he stayed in a cheap hotel, and left DC earlier than planned, as he couldn't afford to stay. I don't know any elitist who can relate to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 05/15/2008
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