Michael Moore: "Fahrenheit 9/11" Follow-Up Not A Sequel

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DAVID GERMAIN | May 16, 2008 04:39 PM EST | AP

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In this May 23, 2004 file photo, American film director Michael Moore gestures while presenting his Palme d'Or trophy for his documentary film "Fahrenheit 9/11" as he climbs the steps of the festival palace during the closing ceremony of the 57th International Film Festival in Cannes, southern France. (AP Photo/Laurent Rebours)

CANNES, France — With his follow-up to "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore wants to examine America as an empire, study its standing since the Sept. 11 attacks and present revelations to surprise audiences as much as the first film did.

But he doesn't want to make a sequel.

"To just say it's a sequel is so wrong," Moore told The Associated Press on Friday at the Cannes Film Festival, where he met with potential international distributors for the film, due out in 2009.

The documentary announced this week at Cannes will be a broader chronicle than "Fahrenheit 9/11," which took President Bush to task over the terrorist attacks and the Iraq war.

"It would be easier and safer to make a sequel, if that's all it was, but this isn't about Bush. We all know this. Regardless of who the president is come November, we have a big mess, a big, big mess to be cleaned up, and I don't know whether it can be cleaned up," Moore said. "The toxicity of the spill may be so great that there's nothing we can do about it. If that's the case, where are we now as America and as Americans?"

"Fahrenheit 9/11" won the top prize at Cannes in 2004 and went on to top $100 million at the domestic box office, the only documentary to hit that mark.

Moore plans to keep details of the film to himself, saying he regretted talking too early about his health-care documentary "Sicko." Health insurers were able to mobilize against him, which "made it impossible for me to get in anywhere" for interviews, he said.

The new film, which doesn't yet have a title, is being financed by Overture Films, which is handling the U.S. release, and Paramount Vantage, which is overseeing international distribution.

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Chris McGurk, chief executive officer of Overture, said the new film will be something of a culmination of Moore's previous work, which includes the General Motors tale "Roger & Me" and the Academy Award-winning gun-control documentary "Bowling for Columbine."

"The country has sort of been rotting from within, and the culprits are big business, big corporations, kind of the conservative government," McGurk said. "`Bowling for Columbine,' `Sicko,' `Roger and Me' all could have been episodes inside the context of this film."

While Moore said the new film would go beyond Bush, he dropped strong hints that the president would remain in his sights.

"Our biggest enemy that we should have been afraid of during these last eight years was perhaps an internal one, and I don't mean ourselves," Moore said. "I mean people that were up to absolutely no good when it came to what was best for this country and best for the world.

"It's my sincere hope that next Jan. 20, it's not just a transition taking place at the White House, where the U-Haul pulls up to take his stuff to Crawford (Texas). I think there should be a perp-walk coming out of the West Wing. The crimes that these people have committed go far beyond _ and I'm not saying it on any kind of an emotional level or what my feelings are about Bush or whatever. I think there are very specific things that need to be looked at in terms of what they've done."

Moore, 54, scolded Hollywood for shying away from the Iraq War early on. He said "Fahrenheit 9/11" was the only war film to become a hit because it came out at a time when it touched a nerve, prompting people to question U.S. military action.

A recent wave of Iraq-themed movies bombed because support for the war has dwindled and most Americans now oppose it, he said.

"Because they didn't have the courage to put these films out when they were needed, the public didn't get to see them, the war continued," Moore said.

"When they finally started putting them out really last year and into this year, 70 percent of the public was against the war. Seventy percent of the public already knew that the war was no good, and they didn't need to spend Friday night at a movie theater after they've been working hard all week to sit there and be told this war is really a bad idea."

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CANNES, France — With his follow-up to "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore wants to examine America as an empire, study its standing since the Sept. 11 attacks and present revelations to surprise a...
CANNES, France — With his follow-up to "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore wants to examine America as an empire, study its standing since the Sept. 11 attacks and present revelations to surprise a...
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With folks like Kundera around, who would ever need an emetic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 05/17/2008

What ever happened to the second part of the title to Fahrenheit 911: "the temperature at which democracy burns?" Was it deemed to unwieldy for a grammar-challenged public to grab onto? I only wish he had spent more time-like maybe a whole other movie-about the stolen election in Florida.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 05/17/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 80 fans permalink
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I hope Michael Moore will put on film what our guts have been telling us for a long time: The U.S. is being used by corporate gangster to exploit Third World nations and their people.

In the words of one of America's great patriots, General David Sharp, USMC:--

"I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar soaked fingers out of the business of these (Third World) nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. And if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the `haves' refuse to share with the `have-nots' by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don’t want and above all don’t want crammed down their throats by Americans.­"

I think our military has understood the problem for a long time going back to General Smedley Butler USMC who said he was a "racketeer for capitalism". Unfortunately, the American people are slow to put 2 and 2 together; who rely on the MSM to convince them that 2 plus 2 is other than 4.

Praise be to our our documentary film makers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/17/2008

praise be to michael moore. sicko was his best work yet, but he did not get that much credit for it. i hope he is able in this next movie to examine the rot within the fabric of american culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/17/2008
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To Hare's remark below:

you write: "He loves America and wants it to be a more decent and humane place."

Michael Moore hates America. He wantts to teir down the institutions that have made us a free prosperous society, and rebuild America into an image more reminiscent of the Former Soviet Union.

Isn't "Fat Communist" an oxymoron?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 05/17/2008

Hmmm, let's see...
A country governed by the rule of law, not the rule of Bush
A country that doesn't invade other countries because it feels like it
A country that doesn't torture people (having to write that actually sickened me a little. Imagine--our great nation, the beacon of freedom and justice to the world, actually tortures people, just like the Khmer Rouge and the Nazis)
A country that looks to overcoming fear, not using it as a political tool to scare the people

I could go on.

Michael Moore is openly criticizing and condemning these acts.

Mr. Moore is a patriot. Everyone who fights for a better America is a patriot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/17/2008

Don't pester this poor deluded right-winger, they have all been in denial ever since the Cold War ended 19 years ago. They have mainly been concerned about how they are going to justify the same Cold War level of military spending to fight insurgents riding around in the back of pickup trucks with home built bombs and used military rifles. There's no danger from a nuclear weapon, only the countries that support Bush in this regional conflict have nuclear capability. However, these countries best tow the line or they could become Bush's next target of opportunity !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/17/2008
- Fotios I'm a Fan of Fotios 16 fans permalink

'Dissent Is the Highest Form of Patriotism'
-Thomas Jefferson

According to Thomas Jefferson, Michael Moore is one of the biggest patriots in this country and you are similar to the people who were opposed to the Revolutionary War!

Why do you hate America so much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 05/17/2008

How many fat communists have you ever seen?
Do even know what an oxymoron is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/17/2008
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"Do even know what an oxymoron is?"

Not sure.

But I do know a MORON when I see one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/17/2008
- tulsey I'm a Fan of tulsey 2 fans permalink

You think America is free and prosperous? Facts in evidence would indicate otherwise,But hey, American idol is on. Paula rocks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/17/2008
- mikekev58 I'm a Fan of mikekev58 8 fans permalink

Cite the facts that America is not free and prosperous.

Your ability to write that on this post indicates the highest freedom there is, apart from which all freedom is meaningless.

And despite high gas prices, I see loads of Americans still driving to the malls and buying stuff they need and want.

Bush has been bad for the US, but he has not eliminated our freedom or our prosperity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/17/2008

Right-wingers hate America.

San Francisco is America--neocons curse it every day.
Hollywood is America--same deal.
Boulder, Colorado--O'Reilly complains about it all the time.
Ann Arbor. Berkeley.
New York. Oregon. Wisconsin.
Massachusetts.
The "coasts."
Blue states everywhere.

Why do you hate America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/17/2008
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America isn't a place, it is an idea.

It is the notion that humans own themselves.

That they own their past, their present and their future; and are thus entitled to Life, Liberty, and property.

MM wants property taken from the rightful owners, and distributed to each according to their needs.

That is not America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 05/17/2008

I think on January 20th we should send Cheney and Bush to the Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/17/2008

I honestly think that's the only way we can regain our standing in the world. Because that would show the world that we don't need to be beaten in a war to do the right thing. That we as a people still stand for good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 05/17/2008
- drumz I'm a Fan of drumz 59 fans permalink
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I'm sure it will be great! Thanks MM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/17/2008

I couldn't agree more, Mr. Moore:

'I think there should be a perp-walk coming out of the West Wing. The crimes that these people have committed go far beyond _ and I'm not saying it on any kind of an emotional level or what my feelings are about Bush or whatever. I think there are very specific things that need to be looked at in terms of what they've done."'

Hopefully, the People pay attention and vote for honesty, an accounting and reconciliation, possibly in that order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 05/17/2008

Hmm..I wonder what details he has. He is really a genius when it comes to film.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 05/17/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 107 fans permalink

go get them michael. went to see sicko and people laughed and cryed during the movie but when it was over they clapped. only have seen that one other time at the end of a movie.

my friend on the drive home said "I thought we had the best health care in the world". she has had he same job for 25 years and also had insurance.

great movie.

keep it up.

I read somewhere that you had halli burton stock. please tell me this is not true. me thinks it was a right wing repub slam on you. those folks have to be new souls with their greed and lies.

you are one of the few that realize that for profit medical care will not work. universal health care in america for corp profit will bankrupt the country. already is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 05/17/2008

Michael Moore has a token amount of Halliburton stock so he can attend stockholders meetings and cause trouble. It's a cool thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 05/17/2008
- faithfully I'm a Fan of faithfully 2 fans permalink

Wasn't he a member of the NRA too-so he could visit the late Charlton Heston?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 05/17/2008
- vandegrasse I'm a Fan of vandegrasse 195 fans permalink
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Check these vids out Michael.
http://www.youtube.com/user/salariatus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 05/17/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

Michael Moore is a hero
He can make a billion $ and I don't care.
No one else stood up to the Bush regime when and like he did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 05/17/2008

"Michael Moore is a hero. He can make a billion $ and I don't care. No one else stood up to the Bush regime when and like he did."

Michael's earned HIS billion. Can't say the same for the Bush regime!

Look forward to seeing his next documentary!

OBAMA '08! (IF it's not too late!)
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/17/2008

Agreed! MM is awesome! Go OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/17/2008
- Myshkin57 I'm a Fan of Myshkin57 16 fans permalink

Yeah... nothing wrong with getting rich as long as you aren't stepping on people to get rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 05/17/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 113 fans permalink
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I heard he made money on Halliburto­n... anyone who actually knows if this is true?
If it is then he is a hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/17/2008

Did you even SEE F 9/11?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 05/17/2008

Deja vu. Here we go again. Homosexuals are front page news and Michael Moore is putting together another Bushbash 'documentary'. I have to hand it to Mikey. Unilke Bill Clinton, at least he goes out and does some actual work to rake in his $100 million.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/16/2008
- drumz I'm a Fan of drumz 59 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/17/2008
- filo I'm a Fan of filo 74 fans permalink
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Who is James Pence? i have no idea. If you are a liberal left wing nut like me you will love these videos. If not ...tough.

If I were a Terrorist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1EXKLVgEx0&eurl=http://www.crooksandliars.com/

Warning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMT1aMV7y0

Cindy Beer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fK6pGQZXN8

Annie Oakley And Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zl00fKOZc

Enjoy !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/16/2008
- lechatnoir I'm a Fan of lechatnoir 7 fans permalink

thanks dude, just watched the first one and I love it. You're gonna like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AX9_aNnhKc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/17/2008
- We I'm a Fan of We permalink

No I'm not a neocon. Check out this 2007 documentary on Michael Moore by my fellow Canadians Debbie Melnyk and Rick Caine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Dissent

Moore undermines the core objective of exposing the neocons for what they are by using misleading tactics. Watch it. I was very surprised. You'll like him less if you like him now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/16/2008
- swamijo I'm a Fan of swamijo 3 fans permalink

not ONE little thing in Moore's movies is untruthful, otherwise you'd have seen slander lawsuits flying from every right-wing, chickenshit chickenhawk he outed...it­'s ALL verifiable, and Mike's 'tactics' are nowhere near as reprehensible as those of the war criminals he exposes...­I like him more every day and so should every American who supports free speech and that quaint little thing called the Constitution! Go peddle your 'misleading' BS someplace else!!! (ever heard of 'WE' the PEOPLE'?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 05/16/2008
- We I'm a Fan of We permalink

Take a deep breath. Watch the Canadian documentary. Remember that it was Canadian money (Alliance Atlantis) that financed at least some of his films - including his Oscar winner. The goal is to make the strongest case against the neocons, but although entertaining, Moore employs similarly distorted neocon tactics, to advance his own solipsistic agenda. There is one particularly pathetic scene in 'Manufacturing Dissent' where he's asked whether he's invested in Halliburton and he uncomfortably avoids and deflects even when the papers are quite clear that he is, deeply. WE're on your side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 05/16/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 77 fans permalink

WE,

You are the new winner. Cleverest troll on Huff Po.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/17/2008

That's not saying anything at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/17/2008

Love him. Sorry but your ruse failed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 05/17/2008
- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 17 fans permalink
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I LOVE HOW EVERY TROLL POST STARTS WITH "I'm not a neocon" or "I'm not a Bush supporter"

Hilarious.

I don't know what the talking points focus groups are telling the Republican National Committee, but apparently, now, every talking point has to be prefaced with "I'm not a...."

Really pathetic. The trolls are running out of anything to say. Yet, they keep trying to post.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 05/17/2008
- Fotios I'm a Fan of Fotios 16 fans permalink

I'm not going to buy that piece of trash Canadian Neocon Documentary, but from reading the wiki you posted, they make three claims of misleading tactics. The primary one is that Michael actually did interview Roger Smith before beginning work on Roger and Me... and who cares? Do they actually have footage of this interview? Even a transcript? I doubt it.

Secondly, they claim that 40% of the doors MM tried to open in Canada in Bowling for Columbine were unlocked, but MM never showed the locked doors. Once again, who cares. It was a very small point in the movie and 40% is still an impressive number.

Lastly, they mention that a Bush quote was taken out of context, but it wasn't. It was meant to be a joke, but it was in very bad taste for a President like Bush to say. And the republicans never jump on quotes out of context either.

So in conclusion, this documentary is grasping at straws, doesn't debunk any major points MM makes and you may actually get dumber if you watch it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 05/17/2008
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I'm a fan of Michael Moore, but he isn't a saint and he doesn't walk on water. The two people who made the documentary are the furthest thing from neo-con you can imagine. In your country, they'd be regarded as raving left-wing loonies. The fact is that they found some things Moore had done that weren't quite on the up-and-up. I can tell you from direct personal experience that sometimes he doesn't honour all his obligations.

I'll say it again to be perfectly clear: I remain a fan of Moore's. I have great respect for him, and the courage he showed by standing up and crying "Bullshit!" when almost everybody else in your country was joining the neo-con parade. Nevertheless, he cut some corners in his work, and in doing so he provided ammunition to the very right wingers we all detest.

And, yes, I will be forking out good Canadian dollars to go and watch his next film.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 05/17/2008

Heaven knows he has enogh information to go on. Difficulty is going to be finding something, some gaffe, some corruption, some treachery that we haven't heard of. The only bombshell he could give us at this point, what we haven't heard, but what would make us happy is -- Congress is ready to impeach!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 05/16/2008

If someone took the book "Road to 9/11" by Peter Dale Scott and did a straight up documentary of the exhaustively researched facts in this excellently written work, they would have all they need to make an airtight case against Cheney, Rumsfield, et al

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/17/2008
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