"You Don't Quit Until You Finish What You Started"

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SARA KUGLER | May 17, 2008 05:42 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., reacts after dipping a bottle of whiskey into red wax at Maker's Mark Distillery in Loretto, Ky. Saturday, May 17, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

LORETTO, Ky. — The day of campaigning had barely begun and Hillary Rodham Clinton was already eyeing the whiskey.

The Democrat wasn't drowning her sorrows, she was touring Kentucky's Maker's Mark distillery as she soldiers on despite a difficult week. Her opponent, Barack Obama, continues to draw more Democratic forces into his camp and has largely ignored her while tussling with certain Republican nominee John McCain in a general election-style dispute over foreign policy.

But Clinton is acting as though the nomination is still within her grasp, beginning a multi-day swing through Kentucky on Saturday with a tour of the famous distillery in Loretto, where its first bottle of bourbon whiskey was created in the 1950s. Perhaps she is hoping for a replay in Kentucky of the election boost her much-publicized shot of whiskey gave her last month in Pennsylvania, where she won the primary.

This time around, Clinton put on gloves and safety goggles and joined the assembly line to dip a bottle of whiskey in Maker's trademark red wax coating, saving the drinking for later.

"There are some people who have been saying for months that this is over, and every time they say it, the voters come back and say, 'Oh no it's not, we're not ready for it to be over,'" Clinton told supporters as she stood on a stage in front of a stack of whiskey barrels.

"You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started, and you don't quit on America."

Clinton began her day in Kentucky on just a few hours of sleep following a redeye flight from Portland that landed at 5 a.m. She boarded the flight after a day of campaigning in Oregon, which votes Tuesday along with Kentucky. Known for her ability to catch up on cat-nap sleep just about anywhere, Clinton rarely seems as exhausted as she must be, although sometimes it shows.

As she began to sign her name on the wall at a cannoli bakery in Salem, Ore., on Friday, Clinton paused for a moment with her black marker in the air and turned toward the press crowded around her to ask what day it was.

Later that evening, during a televised town hall meeting in Portland, she was asked to describe the high and low points of the campaign.

The best times, she said, are whenever her daughter Chelsea joins her on the trail. The low point, she said, "is just being sleep-deprived and trying to get to more places than there are hours in the day to possibly cover."

"But every day something happens that really convinces me how important this is, and energizes me," she added.

Clinton is hoping for a big win in Kentucky, and plans to campaign here every day until the primary. The state's demographics resemble neighboring West Virginia, which gave her a much-needed victory last week.

Both states are overwhelmingly white, rural and have more residents below the poverty line and without college degrees than the national average _ the kind of working-class voters that have helped boost Clinton to victory in other states.

But Obama is favored to win Oregon, where 52 delegates are at state _ one more than Kentucky. Obama already enjoys a delegate advantage that makes it mathematically unlikely for Clinton to overtake him in the primaries, and that advantage continues to widen. Her campaign instead hopes to win over the influential party leaders and elected officials known as superdelegates with the argument that she would be the better Democrat to face McCain in November.

At another stop in Kentucky on Saturday, Clinton targeted McCain for promoting an economic agenda that she said would be "nothing less than four more years of George Bush economics."

Clinton told a few hundred people gathered in a gymnasium at Kentucky State University in Frankfort that McCain puts special interests first and middle class families last.

The Republican National Committee retorted that Clinton was launching a "desperate" attack and would subject the country to higher taxes and spending.

It has been harder in recent days for Clinton to portray herself as McCain's natural opponent. She was left to essentially watch from the sidelines as Obama and McCain engaged in a spat this week over how the United States should treat the leaders of rogue nations, giving the sense that a general election battle is already beginning to take shape between the two candidates.

And lately, instead of criticizing her Democratic opponent, she's taken aim at the media and the political pundits who are counting her out.

Clinton dismisses them in a new television ad airing in Oregon. The spot features clips of political pundits as an announcer says: "In Washington, they talk about who's up and who's down. In Oregon, we care about what's right and what's wrong."

And in her remarks in Kentucky on Saturday, she portrayed pundits and the media as out of touch elitists who have jobs and health care, and no idea what it's like to worry about making ends meet.

"They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for _ I'm running to be a champion for all of you," Clinton said.

She is still drawing crowds at her campaign events, but they are less raucous, and some of supporters admit they are concerned. Many remain upbeat, but are more reflective about the state of the primary race, which ends June 3 with contests in Montana and South Dakota.

As Clinton wrapped up a speech on the porch of a farmhouse in Bath, S.D., one day this week, 85-year-old Roy Heintzman said as he walked away: "I hope she's got an ace up her sleeve. She's going to need it."

 
 

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"You don't quit on people and you don't quit until you finish what you started, and you don't quit on America."

Case in point: 1993-1994 -- Universal Health Care

She quit a lot of Americans then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 05/19/2008

Is Hillary implying her own ends have failed to meet lately?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/18/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 05/18/2008

Hmmm....so the GOP knew Hillary was going to be a leg-biter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/18/2008

How do you know its HC and BO? Best not to play at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/19/2008

Hey, the spelling's bad enough for this to be real....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/18/2008

"You don't quit until you finish what you started" I agree but if what you started is finished before you quit, then you are DONE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/18/2008

We don't need their help... were doing fine without them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/18/2008

"You don't quit until you finish what you started." In Hillary's case I see the merits of the argument since it is merely her and her supporters on the treadmill. But, it's an argument that too closely parallels, "stay the course," for my blood. But, that empty philosophy was offered up as a copout for not having any ideas that worked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 05/18/2008

"You don't quit 'til you finish what you started?"

Excuse me, but isn't this the same thing Bill told Monica?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 05/18/2008

That's probably what he said to Monica and Gennifer and Sally and Juanita and Kathleen and ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 05/18/2008

More GOP red herrings...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 05/18/2008

Hillary talking to her favorite toy.
She has not had Bill in at least 20 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 05/18/2008

Well what Hillary started is FINISHED! Say goodnite! Hillary goes on and on stumping vicariously assuming her husbands job experiences and accomplishments as her very own "when my husband was president ..." Okay, okay Hillary! There you stand in front of barrels of Bourban in Kentucky (top shelf stuff which your supporters can most probably ill afford) in yet another pant suit (looks new) telling half-truths again!

Hillary, say nite, nite!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 05/18/2008

That's right gladys46, she started, she finished, she should be proud, and get behind the presumptive nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/18/2008

Has Hillary quit on her gas tax holiday proposal? I don't hear anything from her about this any longer. Memorial Day is just around the corner, the unofficial kick off of the summer driving season....What about all the hard working white people who need and deserve this holiday from over priced gasoline? Has she quit on them? Is she fighting for them in Congress to get this bill passed? Has there been a windfall profits tax on the oil companies passed that I somehow missed?


Obama '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/18/2008

Exactly, "mfsomom", just as we all said then, it's all Bullsh*t! Are people crazy, do they really think she and Bill are going to mess around with their investments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 05/18/2008

She was just pandering.

It worked in PA but not so well in NC & IN.

Now she is claiming the media is picking on her.

We will have a women president one day, but not this lier who is not qulified to run a corner store.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/18/2008

I was being sarcastic. of course she was pandering...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 05/18/2008

Remember when (then President) Bill Clinton's anatomical irregularities were exhibit A in a state employee's sexual harassment suit? And how that scandal led to the news of his affair with an underage White House intern? We all felt sorry for Mrs. Clinton back then and many still do but that is no reason to make it up to her by nominating her for President. Mrs. Clinton and her husband feel they should be back in the White House when actually they both belong in therapy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/18/2008

Poor, poor HIllary. She made another really poor choice just today. She picked a Methodist church in Bowling Green to attend and then had to sit stern faced through a sermon on adultery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/18/2008

Dear Hillary -

I don't know if you remember this, but back in the day there was this great song that your hubby used. It was a Grateful Dead tune called "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow".

There's a lot of wisdom in that, because - let's face it - sometimes thinking about today is depressing. But there truly are no limits to the power of the imagination. Shoot for the moon, and even if you fail, you'll land among the stars!

So keep wishing upon your star. Never, never, never give up! He or she who last laughs, has the last laugh after all - and sometimes that's the best laugh, as the saying goes.

Sincerely,

Your Friend OTAYPANKY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/18/2008

Hillary, be a good girl and take your ball and jacks and go home. . . and get some sleep.

Maybe when you finally wake up from a sleep deprived month, IT WILL make sense to you.

Now, go girl, you can do it!

Signed,

An Admirer, not a Supporter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 05/18/2008

Ah, the fresh breeze of hope, change and unity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/18/2008

We repeat

It is cheaper to lose than to quit.
If she quits here debt is nearly double.
If she loses - the big boys running her campaign don't get bonuses.
If she quits - here re-election in NY will be challenged
If she loses - she's a heroine
If she quits - no DNC brokering a buyout of her debt
If she loses - she has 'face' Odd but true

She actually has very limited options before the first week in June.
The rest is all a non-story.

Binx101
The Almost Daily Binx
http://binx101.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/18/2008

I agree you should finish what your start but in your case you taught you would be finish on Super Tuesday. Thats why you ran out of money and did'nt campaign for the caucuses, now when your campaign is in the tank and you looking for a miracle you want to finish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/18/2008

I used to admire and respect Bill and Hillary Clinton. Sadly that has changed and I see neither of them as role models for anyone anymore. This latest pretense that she is fighting fot the people is laughable in light of the actual reality. Didn't she expect her opponents to do exactly what she refuses to do when she thought she would get the nomination on Super Tuesday? She wouldn't have had the 2025 delegates. MI & FL wouldn't have counted. She had no plans to campaign in the remaining states and had spent all her money by then, thinking it would end there. But she fully expected her opponents to bow out gracefully. It was good enough for her to expect such consideration, but apparently ridiculous for her opponents to expect the same from her.
And clearly, despite her public statements to the contrary, bowing out gracefully is something that she is incapable of:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/17/201822/559/46/517625

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/18/2008

Everyone should read "The Stealth Campaign to Delegitimize Obama", the Daily Kos article
linked. I have just posted the entire piece at a political message board I frequent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 05/18/2008

That's pretty powerful stuff, along with being scary. I encourage everyone to read the post and to keep the link handy. Then any time you see a Hillary supporter claiming that Obama is not winning, send them to that link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/18/2008

Does Hillary have a drinking problem? She is always drawn to the whiskey. You can say that early on Hillary was a fighter and believe her when she says don't count me out but she now looks and sounds like a loser. Very few people are going to care whether she wins Ky because it won't mean anything. This has been over for sometime now but the media has chosen to go along with the Clinton's and pretend that she is going to make a comeback. From everything I have read the superdelegates are going to put Obama over the top Tues and that is what will make news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/18/2008

She's a role model for young women, and the longer the television cameras are trained on her, the better. The irony is that all the hatemongering being visited upon Clinton by the establishment (i.e. the mainstream media, the Repub. and Dem. parties) will be directed at all women aspiring for higher office or positions in management in the years to come, because not enough people stood up and cried foul when it could have done some good. There's such a disconnect from the oppressive anti-woman cultures that we've created around the world and the idea that our government would actually want to impose the same scenario at home. No jobs, no driving, no education, no bank accounts. (Last time I checked, Saudi and UAE investors were buying up huge stakes in U.S. banks and corps in lockstep with the failing economy and rising oil prices. The Bush-Cheney objective here seems pretty clear.) We can bury our heads in the sand or drink the sand by supporting Obama, but either way, Clinton's defeat spells real doom for this country and this planet. All these complaints about a protracted election cycle are just more propaganda. Nobody sees the big picture anymore, just the little picture on You-Tube and the one on the evening news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 05/18/2008

Hillary's campaign tactics are not recommended strategy for future women candidates. The media didn't do it to Hillary she brought about her own inelectability by her own behavior. There will be future successful women candidates eventually but not if they copy her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 05/18/2008

She meant to say hard working white color Americans, I do believe.
As to that silly media question:
"No woman with Obama"s résumé could run," "No woman could have gotten out of the gate." Women are still held to a double-standard, and they tend to buy into it themselves.
But for many women, whether or not they support Mrs. Clinton, the long primary campaign has left them with a question: why would any woman run?
Many feel dispirited by what they see as bias against Mrs. Clinton in the media " the "Fatal Attraction" comparisons and locker-room chortling on television panels.
"Who would dare to run?" "The media is set up against you, and if you have the money problem to begin with, why would anyone put their families through this, why would anyone put themselves through this?" http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/weekinreview/18zernike.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
Clinton Wins W. Virginia, Obama Wins the Headlines
In doing so, (John) Edwards also helped Obama win the race for exposure last week. Overall, Obama was a significant or dominant newsmaker in 68% of the campaign coverage, well ahead of Clinton, who finished at 53%. And their coverage was very different. Despite her 41-point win in West Virginia, her narrative included considerable speculation about how long she would stay in the race and whether she might end up as Obama"s vice president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/21/2008

You are correct, Hillary Clinton has spoiled the chances for higher office for women for years to come. And your BS about all the "hatemongering" that has been visited upon Clinton is just that, BS. All the media has done is to point out all the nasty things she has done during this campaign. And even then, they have gone very lightly on Clinton. How many times did you see her racist remarks about "hard working White Americans" played on the MSM? You didn't see it? Well that's because it wasn't covered on most of the MSM. About the only news station that covered it was MSNBC. Now, compare the number of times the MSM addressed the Wright controversy. Now, do you get it? Hillary is making you all into victims. Do you like being a victim?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 05/18/2008

We must be living in parallel universes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/18/2008

A voice of reason on this blog. When somebody can adequately explain to me what I can expect in a "transcendent" candidate and future administration I will be only too willing to listen. What I see is someone with a very thin resume and little experience who talks a good game. The only answers I get back are full of anger, insult, and vagueness. They say they do not need my vote now so they won't be too surprised that when it is not available in November. Too many women have been demeaned and insulted throughout this primary and Sen Obama has not absolutely nothing to address it. Too little, too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/18/2008

I'm not sure why a presidential candidate should address what people say to each other, or why people take what anonymous people say on the internet so much to heart. And if you are referring instead to the media, then shouldn't the focus be on working to equalize the messages in the media instead of blaming Obama? Or maybe I'm missing your meaning? Please explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/18/2008