Chuck Hagel Takes On McCain, Repeatedly Praises Obama

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First Posted: 05-20-08 10:06 PM   |   Updated: 05-28-08 05:12 AM

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Chuck Hagel is quickly becoming Barack Obama's answer to Joe Lieberman.

The Republican Senator from Nebraska was a political thorn in McCain's side on Tuesday night, repeatedly lavishing praise on the presumptive Democratic candidate and levying major foreign policy criticisms at the GOP nominee and the Republican Party as a whole. At one point, Hagel even urged the Arizona Republican to elevate his campaign discourse to a higher, more honest level.

"We know from past campaigns that presidential candidates will say many things," Hagel said of some of McCain's recent rhetoric, namely his policy on talking to Iran. "But once they have the responsibility to govern the country and lead the world, that difference between what they said and what responsibilities they have to fulfill are vastly different. I'm very upset with John with some of the things he's been saying. And I can't get into the psychoanalysis of it. But I believe that John is smarter than some of the things he is saying. He is, he understands it more. John is a man who reads a lot, he's been around the world. I want him to get above that and maybe when he gets into the general election, and becomes the general election candidate he will have a higher-level discourse on these things."

Hagel, speaking to a small gathering at the residence of the Italian ambassador, took umbrage with several positions taken by the McCain campaign, including the Arizona Senator's criticism of Obama for pledging to engage with Iran. Engagement is not, and should not be confused for, capitulation, he argued.

"I never understand how anyone in any realm of civilized discourse could sort through the big issues and challenges and threats and figure out how to deal with those without engaging in some way...."

Hagel then offered a wry tweak of his GOP colleague. "I am confident that if Obama is elected president that is the approach we will take. And my friend John McCain said some other things about that. We'll see, but in my opinion it has to be done. It is essential."

Hagel, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, went on to belittle the tendency for some within his own party to disparage those who tout diplomacy. "You take some risks in talking about this," he said, "especially in the Congress, because you can immediately be branded as an appeaser."

And when asked to respond to rumors circulating within political circles that the Bush administration was ginning up the possibility of war with Iran, the Senator even raised the specter of impeachment.

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"You've got the power of impeachment, now that is a very defined measure if you are willing to bring charges against the president at all. You can't just say I disagree with him, let's impeach him," said Hagel. An attack on Iran without Congress' consent, he added, "would bring with it... outstanding political consequences, including for the Republican Party."

Finally, he charged that if the preeminent foreign policy objective is to achieve security in Israel and stability within the broader Middle East, then the Bush track -- which McCain has endorsed -- is ill-advised.

"If you engage a world power or a rival, it doesn't mean you agree with them or subscribe with what they believe or you support them in any way," he said. "What it does tell you is that you've got a problem you need to resolve. And you've got to understand the other side and the other side has got to understand you."

Much of Hagel's address, hosted by the Ploughshares Fund, was spent weaving between Obama praise and McCain quips. He urged the media, for example, to focus on important policy issues an "not just why Barack [doesn't] wear flag pins on his lapel."

Asked whether he would be open to serving as Secretary of Defense in a hypothetical Obama administration, Hagel demurred. But in the process, he praised the Illinois Democrat for being open to a bipartisan cabinet.

"Take me out of the equation," he said, "I do think that the next president and Obama has talked about this, and McCain not as much, I think he is going to have to put together a very wide, smart, experienced, credible, bipartisan cabinet. And that is going to be required absolutely."

Chuck Hagel is quickly becoming Barack Obama's answer to Joe Lieberman. The Republican Senator from Nebraska was a political thorn in McCain's side on Tuesday night, repeatedly lavishing praise on th...
Chuck Hagel is quickly becoming Barack Obama's answer to Joe Lieberman. The Republican Senator from Nebraska was a political thorn in McCain's side on Tuesday night, repeatedly lavishing praise on th...
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- spy3811 I'm a Fan of spy3811 2 fans permalink

We like Chuck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/22/2008
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me 2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/23/2008

I keep blogging "Chuck Hagel for VP on Obama's ticket". Just think another first! Maybe this country will have a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/22/2008
- cartach I'm a Fan of cartach 7 fans permalink

As regards impeachment it's just more of the same rhetoric. Those who can make possible a definite move towards the start of impeachment proceedings always back off or change subjects when pressed. Why talk about impeachment in the context of Iran when Bush and his cronies have done enough to deserve impeachment ten times over already?. Why talk about it at all unless you are prepared to do more than that and are actually starting to do it? It's become a hollow threat and just another reason for the world to ridicule the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/22/2008

I agree with Chuck regarding impeachment. It is too naive of democratic majority not to have set the ball rolling at least by starting the procedure. At least by that act, they would have shaken the stubbornness of Bush and Cheney and their administration and would have been more affective that arose regarding Iraq and a lot of domestic programs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 05/22/2008
- greenwitch I'm a Fan of greenwitch 6 fans permalink

Another reason to adore Kucinich. He tried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/24/2008
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My senator may be a fiscal conservative to my Trotsky populism, but he's a man, a statesman of principle forged in the organic realities of life, not the abstractions of detached insularity from the consequences of life by privilege and connections.

Bugsy Heretical Polemicisit
Job 1:6-12

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 05/22/2008

Job 1:6-12 indeed. How long shall we remain Satan's plaything? Even united the tower of babel fable awaits us. Nevertheless, pubic honesty and collaboration is all we have. Sometimes I feel like a motherless child. Freedom. Let it ring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 AM on 05/22/2008
- bella I'm a Fan of bella 3 fans permalink

Here is a snippet of Chuck Hagel's voting record in the Senate:

He does not support a women’s right to choose

Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation

Voted NO on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore.

Voted for the bankruptcy bill

Voted YES on allowing lobbyist gifts to Congress.

Voted YES on require photo ID (not just a signature) for voter registration

Voted NO on funding for National Endowment for the Arts

Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers

Voted NO on adding 2 to 4 million children to SCHIP eligibility

Voted YES on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000

Voted YES on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping

Voted NO on implementing the 9/11 Commission report

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/21/2008

wow - thanks for the information here. very informative indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 05/21/2008
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This guy hates McCain. He thinks McCain isn't conservative enough. It's also personal.
Keep in mind.....he is very right wing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 05/22/2008

It appears that many other posters, heaping praise on this piece of work, haven't pondered the list that you've thoughtfully provided, and its meaning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/22/2008
- PollyTics I'm a Fan of PollyTics 9 fans permalink
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Whereas I have liked Hagel on some subjects, it is always good to remind ourselves of all of Hagel's past votes.

While he may seem to be a good fit at the moment, we need to remember his stand on policy matters that concern us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 05/22/2008
- Moose49 I'm a Fan of Moose49 8 fans permalink
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Thanks and all of this is important to keep in mind. And these are all good reasons why Hagel as veep should be off the table.

At the same time, I would have no problem with Hagel being named secretary of defense, where his portfolio would be limited to areas where he and Obama are in sync.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 05/22/2008

I know. Much as Hagel is spot on about Iraq and foreign policy, his voting record is 99% Bush.

Pity, really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 05/22/2008

Let's hope Hagel isn't one of a dying breed. A lot of Democrats yearn for the legitimate debate and opposition that an honest conservative - and Conservative - bring to the game. McCain might have been one of those people at one time, but since campaign 2000 he surrendered his soul to the Dark Side. The NeoCon knuckleheads did what the North Vietnamese could not . . . they broke McCain's spirit, and his moment in history is gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 05/21/2008

I'm not too sure about the what the North Vietnamese didn't (or couldn't) do. Remember, all we have are his memoirs (rememberances). Nobody to back up Ol' Crash's claims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 05/22/2008
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There were others with him that back him up. He may not be the one I'll vote for,but, I have no doubt that he served his country well. He is a war hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 05/22/2008

I think Chuck is absolutely fabulous

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 05/21/2008

I think it is time for the good, decent people of Connecticut to apologize to the rest of the country for returning Joe Lieberman to the US Senate after he lost the Democratic primary. We will forgive you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 05/21/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 134 fans permalink

Either Webb or Hagel is Obama's savior. Either would be ideal to function as Obama's Agnew, his relentless, completely credible (unlike Agnew, but you get my drift), and ideally brutal attack dog on the complete debacle Iraq has been for America. Both Webb and Hagel can go more than toe to toe with the tottering McCain on the heroic macho meter, including their decorated service in Vietnam. And both can be used relentlessly to go after the Appalachian whites who were stimulated to vote against Obama by Clinton's racist encouragement of the Wright smear which her camp probably fed to You Tube in the first place. The winning strategy for Obama has been demonstrated by Clinton: Fight the general election as a relentless, macho battler for Democratic populism. Attack McBush with everything you've got. Fight to the death, with a genuine Rambo like either Webb or Hagel at your side. And ask Hillary's women if they are really so bitter that they are willing to betray all of the the liberal values of their whole lifetime--racial progress, opposition to wars, and, above all, commitment to a woman's right to choose--out of some stupid pique over supposed sexism in the primaries. In the general, Strickland and Rendell will be using their machines FOR Obama, not against him. And Sen. Byrd can campaign with him in WVA. Nuff said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/21/2008
- BlueBoomer I'm a Fan of BlueBoomer 28 fans permalink

I had a similar thought as I began reading this thread...that Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel really ought to figure into the next Democratic cabinet somehow.

BTW, I heard another "what about" the other day: Hillary for the Supreme Court...

Thoughts, anyone?...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 05/22/2008

FYI - has been a topic of conversation among folks I know . . . including trial judges, lawyer types. Wouldn't be the worst choice, IF she was legitimately interested. She has the education, gravitas. Query: does she have the moral, constitutional, intellectual compass?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 05/25/2008

A republican with a brain - who knew?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/21/2008
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Chuck Hages IS my favorite Republican but it is a list that contains only one name - HIS. The problem I have with him, though, is that he was the CEO of Election Systems & Software (ESS) which has been HIGHLY implicated in many of the voting machine fraud cases.

That's not to say that Hagel is in any way responsible, but I'd sure like to know more about it before I would be happy with him on a ticket led by a Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/21/2008
- kee I'm a Fan of kee permalink

Hagel for VEEP for Barack... Now, that's the ticket!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/21/2008
- bobo209 I'm a Fan of bobo209 9 fans permalink

According to the Convention:

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, such as:

a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm;
c) Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Although the phrase “in whole or in part” sounds ambiguous, its ambit has been restricted by judgments of the International Criminal Court. According to the Rapporteur for the Preparatory Commission of the International Criminal Court, “The accused aimed to destroy a large part of the group in a particular area.”

The International Criminal Court for the former Yugoslavia concluded that “The killing of all members of a group within a small geographical area” was tantamount to genocide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/21/2008

I have been split between Hagel and Webb as far as VP for quite a while now. I don't think that Barack can go wrong with either of them. Barack is no ideologue and he needs someone like-minded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/21/2008
- KarenKaren I'm a Fan of KarenKaren 9 fans permalink

Hagel and Webb, I agree, would be great. Another pick, Governor Ritter of Colorado. Hagel sure does make a lot of sense and brings honor to his party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 05/21/2008

The onlt problem with Webb is that we would be giving up a real nice senate seat in Virginia, one that was hard to get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/21/2008
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