Obama Wins Most Pledged Delegates, Returns To Iowa For Speech (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 05-20-08 09:36 PM   |   Updated: 05-28-08 05:12 AM

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Sen. Barack Obama passed a major milestone on Tuesday night, winning a majority of the pledged delegates in the Democratic race for president, according to estimates from the Obama campaign and several news outlets.

Obama's campaign also announced it had collected more than $31 million in April, "bringing his total amount raised so far this year to $167 million -- a staggering total that suggests his vaunted fundraising machine continues to churn."

The Fix's Chris Cillizza noted, "As has often been the case with Obama's fundraising, the breadth of his appeal is the most impressive trait. Of the $31.3 million Obama raised last month, 94 percent came in the form of contributions of $200 or less, and more than half of all the donations (52 percent) were in chunks of $25 or less."

Obama spoke tonight in Iowa, where he won his first victory in the Democratic race back in January.

"You have put us within reach of the Democratic nomination," he told cheering supporters in Iowa, the overwhelmingly white state that launched him, a black, first-term senator from Illinois, on his improbable path to victory last January.


Obama lavished praise on Clinton, his rival in a race unlike any other, and accused Republican John McCain of a campaign run by lobbyists.

"You are Democrats who are tired of being divided, Republicans who no longer recognize the party that runs Washington, independents who are hungry for change," he said, speaking to a crowd on the grounds of the Iowa Capitol in Des Moines as well as the millions around the country who will elect the nation's 44th president in November.

Watch video of the speech, or read the full text below:

You know, there is a spirit that brought us here tonight - a spirit of change, and hope, and possibility. And there are few people in this country who embody that spirit more than our friend and our champion, Senator Edward Kennedy. He has spent his life in service to this country not for the sake of glory or recognition, but because he cares - deeply, in his gut - about the causes of justice, and equality, and opportunity. So many of us here have benefited in some way or another because of the battles he's waged, and some of us are here because of them.


We know he is not well right now, but we also know that he's a fighter. And as he takes on this fight, let us lift his spirits tonight by letting Ted Kennedy know that we are thinking of him, that we are praying for him, that we are standing with him, and that we will be fighting with him every step of the way.

Fifteen months ago, in the depths of winter, it was in this great state where we took the first steps of an unlikely journey to change America.

The skeptics predicted we wouldn't get very far. The cynics dismissed us as a lot of hype and a little too much hope. And by the fall, the pundits in Washington had all but counted us out.

But the people of Iowa had a different idea.

From the very beginning, you knew that this journey wasn't about me or any of the other candidates in this race. It's about whether this country - at this defining moment - will continue down the same road that has failed us for so long, or whether we will seize this opportunity to take a different path - to forge a different future for the country we love.

That is the question that sent thousands upon thousands of you to high school gyms and VFW halls; to backyards and front porches; to steak fries and JJ dinners, where you spoke about what that future would look like.

You spoke of an America where working families don't have to file for bankruptcy just because a child gets sick; where they don't lose their home because some predatory lender tricks them out of it; where they don't have to sit on the sidelines of the global economy because they couldn't afford the cost of a college education. You spoke of an America where our parents and grandparents don't spend their retirement in poverty because some CEO dumped their pension - an America where we don't just value wealth, but the work and the workers who create it.

You spoke of an America where we don't send our sons and daughters on tour after tour of duty to a war that has cost us thousands of lives and billions of dollars but has not made us safer. You spoke of an America where we match the might of our military with the strength of our diplomacy and the power of our ideals - a nation that is still the beacon of all that is good and all that is possible for humankind.

You spoke of a future where the politics we have in Washington finally reflect the values we hold as Americans - the values you live by here in Iowa: common sense and honesty; generosity and compassion; decency and responsibility. These values don't belong to one class or one region or even one party - they are the values that bind us together as one country.

That is the country I saw in the faces of crowds that would stretch far into the horizon of our heartland - faces of every color, of every age - faces I see here tonight. You are Democrats who are tired of being divided; Republicans who no longer recognize the party that runs Washington; Independents who are hungry for change. You are the young people who've been inspired for the very first time and those not-so-young folks who've been inspired for the first time in a long time. You are veterans and church-goers; sportsmen and students; farmers and factory workers; teachers and business owners who have varied backgrounds and different traditions, but the same simple dreams for your children's future.

Many of you have been disappointed by politics and politicians more times than you can count. You've seen promises broken and good ideas drown in the sea of influence, and point-scoring, and petty bickering that has consumed Washington. And you've been told over and over and over again to be cynical, and doubtful, and even fearful about the possibility that things can ever be different.

And yet, in spite of all the doubt and disappointment - or perhaps because of it - you came out on a cold winter's night in numbers that this country has never seen, and you stood for change. And because you did, a few more stood up. And then a few thousand stood up. And then a few million stood up. And tonight, in the fullness of spring, with the help of those who stood up from Portland to Louisville, we have returned to Iowa with a majority of delegates elected by the American people, and you have put us within reach of the Democratic nomination for President of the United States.

The road here has been long, and that is partly because we've traveled it with one of the most formidable candidates to ever run for this office. In her thirty-five years of public service, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has never given up on her fight for the American people, and tonight I congratulate her on her victory in Kentucky. We have had our disagreements during this campaign, but we all admire her courage, her commitment and her perseverance. No matter how this primary ends, Senator Clinton has shattered myths and broken barriers and changed the America in which my daughters and yours will come of age.

Some may see the millions upon millions of votes cast for each of us as evidence that our party is divided, but I see it as proof that we have never been more energized and united in our desire to take this country in a new direction. More than anything, we need this unity and this energy in the months to come, because while our primary has been long and hard-fought, the hardest and most important part of our journey still lies ahead.

We face an opponent, John McCain, who arrived in Washington nearly three decades ago as a Vietnam War hero, and earned an admirable reputation for straight talk and occasional independence from his party.

But this year's Republican primary was a contest to see which candidate could out-Bush the other, and that is the contest John McCain won. The Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans that once bothered Senator McCain's conscience are now his only economic policy. The Bush health care plan that only helps those who are already healthy and wealthy is now John McCain's answer to the 47 million Americans without insurance and the millions more who can't pay their medical bills. The Bush Iraq policy that asks everything of our troops and nothing of Iraqi politicians is John McCain's policy too, and so is the fear of tough and aggressive diplomacy that has left this country more isolated and less secure than at any time in recent history. The lobbyists who ruled George Bush's Washington are now running John McCain's campaign, and they actually had the nerve to say that the American people won't care about this. Talk about out of touch!

I will leave it up to Senator McCain to explain to the American people whether his policies and positions represent long-held convictions or Washington calculations, but the one thing they don't represent is change.

Change is a tax code that rewards work instead of wealth by cutting taxes for middle-class families, and senior citizens, and struggling homeowners; a tax code that rewards businesses that create good jobs here in America instead of the corporations that ship them overseas. That's what change is.

Change is a health care plan that guarantees insurance to every American who wants; that brings down premiums for every family who needs it; that stops insurance companies from discriminating and denying coverage to those who need it most.

Change is an energy policy that doesn't rely on buddying up to the Saudi Royal Family and then begging them for oil - an energy policy that puts a price on pollution and makes the oil companies invest their record profits in clean, renewable sources of energy that will create five million new jobs and leave our children a safer planet. That's what change is.

Change is giving every child a world-class education by recruiting an army of new teachers with better pay and more support; by promising four years of tuition to any American willing to serve their community and their country; by realizing that the best education starts with parents who turn off the TV, and take away the video games, and read to our children once in awhile.

Change is ending a war that we never should've started and finishing a war against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan that we never should've ignored. Change is facing the threats of the twenty-first century not with bluster, or fear-mongering, or tough talk, but with tough diplomacy, and strong alliances, and confidence in the ideals that have made this nation the last, best hope of Earth. That is the legacy of Roosevelt, and Truman, and Kennedy.

That is what change is.

That is the choice in this election.

The same question that first led us to Iowa fifteen months ago is the one that has brought us back here tonight; it is the one we will debate from Washington to Florida, from New Hampshire to New Mexico - the question of whether this country, at this moment, will keep doing what we've been doing for four more years, or whether we will take that different path. It is more of the same versus change. It is the past versus the future. It has been asked and answered by generations before us, and now it is our turn to choose.

We will face our share of difficult and uncertain days in the journey ahead. The other side knows they have embraced yesterday's policies and so they will also embrace yesterday's tactics to try and change the subject. They will play on our fears and our doubts and our divisions to distract us from what matters to you and your future.

Well they can take the low road if they want, but it will not lead this country to a better place. And it will not work in this election. It won't work because you won't let it. Not this time. Not this year.

My faith in the decency, and honesty, and generosity of the American people is not based on false hope or blind optimism, but on what I have lived and what I have seen in this very state.

For in the darkest days of this campaign, when we were dismissed by all the polls and all the pundits, I would come to Iowa and see that there was something happening here that the world did not yet understand.

It's what led high school and college students to give up their vacations to stuff envelopes and knock on doors, and why grandparents have spent all their afternoons making phone calls to perfect strangers. It's what led men and women who can barely pay the bills to dig into their savings and write five dollar checks and ten dollar checks, and why young people from all over this country have left their friends and their families for a job that offers little pay and less sleep.

Change is coming to America.

It's the spirit that sent the first patriots to Lexington and Concord and led the defenders of freedom to light the way north on an Underground Railroad. It's what sent my grandfather's generation to beachheads in Normandy, and women to Seneca Falls, and workers to picket lines and factory fences. It's what led all those young men and women who saw beatings and billy clubs on their television screens to leave their homes, and get on buses, and march through the streets of Selma and Montgomery - black and white, rich and poor.

Change is coming to America.

It's what I saw all those years ago on the streets of Chicago when I worked as an organizer - that in the face of joblessness, and hopelessness, and despair, a better day is still possible if there are people willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it. That's what I've seen here in Iowa. That's what is happening in America - our journey may be long, our work will be great, but we know in our hearts we are ready for change, we are ready to come together, and in this election, we are ready to believe again. Thank you Iowa, and may God Bless America.

Sen. Barack Obama passed a major milestone on Tuesday night, winning a majority of the pledged delegates in the Democratic race for president, according to estimates from the Obama campaign and severa...
Sen. Barack Obama passed a major milestone on Tuesday night, winning a majority of the pledged delegates in the Democratic race for president, according to estimates from the Obama campaign and severa...
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People could you imagine the foreign policy debate between Clinton and McCain?

McCain: No I'm going to Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.

Clinton: Well I'm going to obliterate Iran.

McCain: I'm not going to talk to Iran's leaders.

Clinton: I'll kick Iran's leaders in the balls.

McCain: I'm not going to let Cubans send their family's remissions and let Cubans travel there either.

Clinton: I'm going to rendition Cubans that try to go to Cuba.

Where does she differ from McCain? She has triangulated to be equal with McCain on foreign policy so she can beat him on the economy. If she steals the nomination or worse damages Obama enough to let McCain win we will still be hated around the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 05/21/2008
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Do you guys always have to make stuff up to try to make the point that your really can't make unless you make stuff up. I'm only asking this because all you obama guys heads explode when you think Hillary makes stuff up. LOL We never hear the end of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/21/2008
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While some is made up the statements both Clinton and McCain made on Iran are true and on Iran and Cuba that's both their true positions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 05/21/2008
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Geez, loosen up! I thought it would've been funny if it wasn't so true, but then, the truth comes through a lot easier when you speak in jest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 05/21/2008

US guys are citizens she is a senator and she is running for the president
of the united states
what is your point Hillary lies and make things up like sniper fire !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 05/21/2008

THE RIGHTS OF HUMAN BEINGS !
By scorpi2000 - Jan 27th, 2008 at 11:08 pm EST
Barrack is not campaining for the rights of one particular group.
He is campaining for the rights of human beings.

And if anyone hasnt noticed, THIS INCLUDES EVERYBODY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 05/21/2008
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That's my right too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 05/21/2008
- Rendon76 I'm a Fan of Rendon76 16 fans permalink
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How can you not like this guy? You gotta be some kind of person not to like this guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 05/21/2008
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Baracks halo developed some crusty tarnish once his supporters started calling me a racist because I voted for Hillary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

What does is supporters - and anonymous strangers on a blog, have to do with Obama? Oh! The answer is, -nothing-. It is a straw man.

You aren't asinine enough to drag out THAT old logical fallacy are you?

If you cannot argue honestly - without resorting to "tricking" people with logical fallacies and misdirections - then you are intellectually weaker - don't you know that? If you could win a debate fairly, THAT is when you would be "smarter".

So just stop it. you are a racist if you voted -against- Obama for color. You are not a racist if you voted -for- hillary becuase you thought she was the better candidate. You aren't THAT stupid as to not know this difference, are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/21/2008

Why did you let his supporters change your opinion of him? There are tons of nice McCain supporters, but I still think he's a d*ck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/21/2008
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I don't think your a racist...but I think you support someone who is a race baiter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 05/21/2008
- JhNyc I'm a Fan of JhNyc 10 fans permalink

Baloney. Nobody called you a racist simply for voting for Clinton. That doesn't make you a racist, nor does it mean you aren't one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 05/21/2008

Please don't take the comments of anonymous bloggers etc. sway you to self hatred. develop thick skin. It's not like either candidate has said any of the viral or vitriol comments to you personally. Judge the candidates not the blogger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 05/21/2008
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I don't know if anyone saw David Gergen but he was visibly upset that people in this country still vote just based on race. He said Hillary should tell voters not to vote for her if they are just voting for her because she is white. He said she should pull back on her Wright comments as well. He said Hillary is fine with using sexism but does not care if people are voting for her just because they are voting against an African American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 05/21/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

That because he knows that it was her intent when she said "Hard Working Americans, White Americans".

This is why Obama didn't go to WV and KY....

The exit polls show that her tactic worked and also showed the Supers that she is a race baiter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 05/21/2008
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I'm actually glad Obama did not campaign in WV and KY with Hillary working up her rabid supporters who seem to be foaming at the mouth. I worry about Obama's safety and it was just not worth the risk to got to WV or KY for what, to lose by 33 instead of 35.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 05/21/2008
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It's not Ok that white people vote for Hillary because she's white but it's Okie Dokie that black people vote for Barack because he's black. You have a very interesting double standard going there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/21/2008
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That is not the case, however.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 05/21/2008
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Since Clinton was leading the black vote until she alienated them, I would beg to differ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 05/21/2008
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That wasn't what the post said at all. Most of Obama's voters in Tuesday's elections were white. Nearly everyone I know is voting for Obama, and none of us is AA. I do know a few AA Republicans, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 05/21/2008
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One group of people are voting FOR a person that makes them proud AND some African Americans feel like I do that he is a better candidate than the others based on who he is and what he speaks for a better America and a better world.

The racist is voting based an hatred and fear thast hass nothing to do with the candidates stance on the issues

and btw, did you complain all the past elections when AA's voted for whites?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 05/21/2008
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Woman voting for Hillary because she is a woman and African Americans voting for Obama because he is AA is a matter of pride and novelty because being white is a neutral factor considering the history of American politics. If you don't understand the difference it's your ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 AM on 05/21/2008
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more people need to say that

I could really learn to loathe the clintons (i am just about there already)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/21/2008

Your screen name suggests that you like quantum physics... so will take it for granted that you are intelligent.

1. Gergen was upset -- BUT -- many people have pointed out on OTHER SHOWS, that the exit poll question asked "was race a factor".... just because something is a "factor" doesn't mean that it's the ONLY reason for their vote.

2. It's UNFAIR that the media didn't ask exit pollers in Oregon and Kentucky if "sex was a factor"?
There are an equal number if not more who would never vote for someone based on sex -- being a woman.

3. Gergan suggested Hillary HELP Obama out and say... "hey if you're voting for me cause I'm white, I don't want your vote." Again, we don't know if anyone is voting for her JUST because she's white. ALSO.. to be fair, Gergan should or could have suggested that Obama say: "anyone who votes for me cause they don't want a woman, then I don't want your vote." or TO BLACKS...
"if you're voting for me just cause I'm black... I don't want YOUR vote."

4. He never said that Hillary didn't care racism. Stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 05/21/2008
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Are you an idiot? Race should never be a factor, just as sex shouldn't be a factor. I don't think anyone should be against Hillary Clinton because she's a woman. They should be against her because she voted for the Iraq War, she gave Bush the greenlight on Iran, she lied about Bosnia, and I can go on and on. The problem with YOU Hillary supporters, you're okay with accepting votes from racist, but then you want to go and put an astreick next to your name and say you're not a racist.

If you're willing to accpet those votes and make excuses for them - you may not be a racist, but as Bush tried to pin on Obama this week, you're certainly an appeaser of racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/21/2008
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The fact that 21% said it was a factor to a stranger in front of other strangers mean it was real racism. In fact you can probably triple that number. The real question to ask is "how many people do you know that vote based on race?" This is how sociologists have learned to ask race questions to strangers to get a real feeling for race relations. When they asked this type of question to voters in NC over 50% of Clinton voters said they knew people who voted considering race.

Also the wright question was another give away. Over 50% of Clinton voters said Obama agrees with those views which is absolute fiction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

--2. It's UNFAIR that the media didn't ask exit pollers in Oregon and Kentucky if "sex was a factor"?
There are an equal number if not more who would never vote for someone based on sex -- being a woman. --

I think this is the only thing of your I have ever agreed with. I, too would like to know the answer to that question - I am sure sexism HAS been at least a small factor but we will never know because they never ask this question.

As to the rest though - listen, it is a racist state with a small black population. therefore when that large a percentage say race is a factor you can be sure that race was probably the biggest factor. I have been around people like that - even the "open minded" ones consider themselves "separate" from blacks and simply will not vote for a black guy.

No amount of denial from you will change how these people think and act.

But realisitically, I am sure some of them did vote for her because they liked her, to be sure. But a large percentage of them did not vote -for- her so much as they voted -against- the black guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 05/21/2008

I would hope you are as intelligent as you seem to be: but when a poll and exiting voters tell someone they are not voting because of race (that is the factor)! I saw the Gergen piece and he's absolutely correct. A leader a woman like Hillary should not pander nor pride herself with bigoted/racists voters. Set the example, she knows Barack does not harbor the sentiments expressed by Rev. Wright and those people who say he shares those views are simply using it to validate a racist sentiment. (Not all, but quite a few).

To suggest that Barack has a problem with 21% of Bigots is an insult. It's the 21% that have a problem with him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 05/21/2008
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I do believe that as for the people who said they would "never vote for a black man" one can assume that race was pretty much the ONLY reason for their vote. I also recall Hillary stating that "Working, Hard working, White voters, vote for me" and not for Obama, as though it were one of her strengths.

As for black voters (like myself) why would we continue to vote for someone who (along with her husband) used the race of her opponent as a weapon against him in order to appeal to voters who have racial biases, for their own political gain?

Personally, I voted for Obama because he is in my opinion, the best candidate, by far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 05/21/2008
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I saw that too KQuark. He seems to understand something that a lot of "working class" Americans don't or can't see. Racism is a luxury that we can't afford anymore. Racism is hard to kill once it's nourished. It's like Frankenstein run amok when you lose control of it. He sees like so many "educated" Americans that we are at a pivotal point in our history. We have a special opportunity to place a special guy with a special skill-set into the Presidency. This man, Obama, can actually change things and get things done. He has led by example. His only problem is that he's running in a year when so many women had invested so much emotionally in the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. (If Jesus had run this year he'd be on their shit list too). The measure of a leader is what they do in hard times. When faced with the Rev. Wright controversy, the "Bittergate" idiocy, the Michelle "american pride" stuff. He has been unflappable and cool. He has always congratulated Hillary on her victories and good nights. He's found something left in the tank to buoy his supporters even in his most disappointing times. He has run an extremely effective campaign. Out maneuvering the most powerful political machine of the last 25 years. "INEVITABLE" remember! Hillary is playing with matches in a gasoline pool by doing this...BUT IT IS ALL ABOUT HER ISN'T IT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 05/21/2008
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A sad happy day; the sun shines yet rain drops abound.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/21/2008
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Considering 21% of Dems in Kentucky said race was a factor, I worry about Obama regardless of which party - a racist who wants to do harm to Obama has no party affiliation other than being a racist. If this election has showed me anything, it showed that Dems can be just as racist, and it's not really that open of a party. At least Republicans will tell you to your face - that I can respect. Either way, I'm leaving the Democratic Party but I'm voting for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 05/21/2008
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For all the talk from clinton supporters and saying you will NEVER vote for Obama
I hound this picture and article from the NYT
It is an awful picture

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/world/middleeast/21sadr.html?ref=middleeast

This is how America is now defining SUCCESS> it makes me sick end this war now
as emotional as this primary season has been it is NOTHING as to the problems facing the world and here at home

DO NOT VOTE FOR MORE OF THIS DISASTER

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 05/21/2008
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Uhhhhh, Hillary voted for this. I think her supporters support this effort.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 05/21/2008
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I didn't think so until the "Total Obliteration" comment she made :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 05/21/2008
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Her supporters do not care. She has polarized the Democratic Party to her ends so that Obama cannot win in the fall. Her self fulfilling prophecy is coming true even though at one time Obama would have won by a landslide. I have never been proud of the Democratic Party under the Clinton's slash and burn politics that is based on their narcissistic quest for power and money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 05/21/2008

It seems Obama and Clinton have something in common. Apparently... BOTH are very polarizing. And someone who runs for president 7 months after getting into the US Senator, is someone who is interested in serving his EGO instead of his constituents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 05/21/2008

Will someone please call Hillary at 3 AM and tell her with respect to the rules she agreed to, she has lost and it is fraud to continue asking for money claiming she can never win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/21/2008
- JhNyc I'm a Fan of JhNyc 10 fans permalink

Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 05/21/2008
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as well as badges, LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 05/21/2008

I really really want an answer to this question, and I'm really hoping for a legitimate answer sans snark please.

For the Hillary Clinton supporters.....

During his 1992 campaign one of Bill Clinton's favorite lines was "If you Follow the Rules, you can get anywhere in America."

This primary season, the DNC set up rules by which all candidates as well as state parties were expected to follow. One of these rules was that no primary be scheduled before a certain date. Both the FLA and MI state Dem parties broke these rules and scheduled their primaries before that date. As a punishment, the DNC said that if these two states did not move the dates of these elections, their votes would not be counted, and more importantly, their delegates would not be seated at the convention in August. All of the Dem candidates agreed, in writing, that they would abide by the DNC's decision and not campaign there, as well as not recognize ANY OUTCOME of those elections.

Why then is Hillary Clinton saying these votes are to be counted, and how does this live up to the "play by the rules" ethic?

Please, a REAL answer to this question would go a long way...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 05/21/2008
- Bagger I'm a Fan of Bagger 17 fans permalink
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Don't worry...they always ignore facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 05/21/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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It doesn't..... Hillary is a liar... She has no ethics.... no morals.....

At least in Michigan... it was well known that we would not count..... by the rules.....

She wants to change the rules.... like playing Monopoly with a cheater...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/21/2008

Well, because it's sexist.

Never mind pledging to abide by rules and following them.

It's just sexist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 05/21/2008
- SuiginTou7 I'm a Fan of SuiginTou7 68 fans permalink
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Wait a minute, following the rules is sexist!?! (This should be good,) Explain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 05/21/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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someone said on the obama.com blog, Clinton's name was on the ballot and Obama's name was not, those who "wrote in" Obama, had their ballot was thrown out... this is hear say from a blog, if anyone can back that up or deny it, please do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 05/21/2008
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The answer to your question is that the DNC is going to seat MI and FL in some capacity. Since you seem to be so concerned about the rules, why are you blaming Hillary for what the DNC is doing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 05/21/2008

I'm not...but she was the one who insisted the delegations be seated AFTER she agreed to not recognize the results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 05/21/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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I blame her for telling people that Obama is trying to BLOCK a vote that was NOT LEGITIMATE. More lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 05/21/2008
- chendri887 I'm a Fan of chendri887 24 fans permalink
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The Clintons are such sorry sad sack losers. They would destroy this country to serve their own egos. I can't tell the difference between them and the Republican party. It would be nice to turn the page on thirty plus years of conservative governance and get back to a more progressive way of leading, a way that has been missing, frankly, since the FDR administration. Why do we always have to wait until a crisis produced by conservatism before people return to the progressive values that serve this country's citizens best? Stand for something, Democratic party! And if you're wrong, so be it. But at least make a stand for the people of this country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 05/21/2008
- Optimist I'm a Fan of Optimist 10 fans permalink

Relax, it's over. Time to focus on McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 05/21/2008
- Bagger I'm a Fan of Bagger 17 fans permalink
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Hillary supporters don't know what they are. They're not conservative and they're not progressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 05/21/2008

It's called a personality cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 05/21/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

I've been an Obama supporter for a long time.
Having said that, however, I think we should also be gracious winners.
If out intention is to unite this country - there is no time like the present.
Let's follow the lead of our candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 05/21/2008

marthlois - I've posted similar comments with no luck. What I've come to realize is, the reason Obama supporters can't let it go of their anger is because Hillary continues to try and break the rules -- one day it's MI and FL, the next day it's caucuses shouldn't count, you name it she's trying it -- again this is where the anger comes from. The feeling your candidate is playing by the rules and it's not enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 05/21/2008
- ethancorso I'm a Fan of ethancorso 242 fans permalink
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Any fair seating of the Michigan and Florida delegates would not move Clinton into the lead. Super Delegates are declaring their support for Obama in a steady but constant stream. Hillary's only path to the nomination involves a devastating change in the way Barack Obama is perceived by the public, and I'm still not sure that she won't try and do just that. She knows that it doesn't have to be true, and that Republicans would relish an opportunity to aid and abet. Am I being too cynical?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

No. I think she is that low also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 05/21/2008
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She'd go that low, no doubt about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 05/21/2008
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I am totally convinced now that Hillary has done permanent damage for the general now. Where I thought it was a slam dunk for any Democratic Candidate. Hillary has irreconcilably damaged Obama's chances in the fall. Hillary's electablility argument has become a self fulfilling prophecy that has taken us past the point of no return. When I see Republican operatives like Tucker using Hillary's words the doubt is sinking into Democrats minds. When I see middle age and older woman like Ferraro saying that she will probably not vote based on the hate that she has built up from non-existent slights. Then I see real damage to the Democratic Party. Hillary you have achieved your goal of operation chaos. Time to start working on plan B. I hear Vancouver Canada is really nice because I refuse to live in this country under McCain or Clinton in 2012 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 05/21/2008
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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And when I see Hillary using Karl Rove's "analysis" as part of her argument, I want to puke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 05/21/2008
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I have to admit I have a major case of Clinton fatigue. I have not problem going after the Republicans but this civil war is getting to me. I am more and more disappointed with the Democratic Party. The party that once stood for diversity is eating it's young the sate the power of the Clintons. I'm tired of hearing more people who voted for Clinton will vote for McCain over Obama. It just reminds me of the delusion and insanity that got us 8 years of Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 05/21/2008
- caywen I'm a Fan of caywen 7 fans permalink

Both candidates got what they wanted tonight. Clinton got her landslide victory in the state she really needed it, so she lives to see another day. Obama gets a convincing victory in one of the contests and finally reaches the majority of pledged delegates.

So, tonight, everyone's generally happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 05/21/2008
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How can you even say that?

We are no closer to a nominee and she is making Obama a weaker candidate by the day. This country IS showing that it is racist and won't vote for a black man. I'm back to where I was before this election started. America is not ready to vote for a black person no matter who it is. The worse part is the party that is not supposed to be racist is showing it's hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

The Appalachia region is -not- "The country". It is a small region. Please keep it in perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 05/21/2008
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Well, KQuarks, no offense, but I think it's kinda unfair to Oregon (not to mention Iowa, Nebraska, Washington State, Idaho, etc.) to say that *America* is racist and won't vote for a black man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 05/21/2008
- Bagger I'm a Fan of Bagger 17 fans permalink
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Maybe you are not ready for a black president because I'm sure not. But I voted for Obama anyways because I know in my gut he's the best person in this country for the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 05/21/2008
- caywen I'm a Fan of caywen 7 fans permalink

Well, not literally everybody - obviously you're not :-)

As an Obama supporter, I'm satisfied. He rocked Oregon and got his delegate majority. I would say his argument to the superdelegates just got that much more convincing.

I still believe this year we'll leave behind the racism and prejudice. I like Obama's approach. Slow, steady, smart, and respectful. He shouldn't try to rush things and do rash tactics for risk of looking impatient and possibly unpresidential. Trying to push Hillary out of the race would be a dean scream.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 05/21/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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actually if listen to what Obama said tonight, if you REALLY listen, we are getting stronger from here on out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/21/2008

What Hillary and the talking heads fail to point out is that if Obama had gone into this primary season thinking that he needed popular votes rather than delegates, he would have still won! He would have gone with (as one previous poster says) laser-like precision and target the CA and Texas and all the States necessary to win the popular vote. Hillary Clinton would still have sat on her laurels and depend on name recognition and her husband's legacy to win. Obama worked his ass of in Iowa, New Hampshire and all of the early states. Obama ran a clever campaign to get the delegates he was told he would need. Now they want to change the rules in the middle of the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 05/21/2008
- DaDawg I'm a Fan of DaDawg 2 fans permalink

Watching the speech and reading an article on rhetoric Obama's uses, I realized one of the main reasons why I like him much more then Clinton. Has Obama ever said when I am elected President? It seems he always says when we win. I think Clinton uses that line or some variant several times in her stump speech. Rhetoric wise that is a major difference making Obama's speeches much more effective then Clinton's. People would rather hear, when we get in power then why I get in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

He is really a brilliant politician.

Its too bad the haters are unable to see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 05/21/2008
- tene I'm a Fan of tene permalink
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You're right. I never noticed that. I did notice though that she almost always refers to Obama as "my opponent" whereas most (if not all) of the time he refers to her by name and title, Sen. Clinton, seems to convey more respect. It may seem like not a big deal, but I think little subtle words like that make a difference and I notice that a lot of her supporters think of him that way, too. I think it helps people to subconsciously look at him as the enemy. (Just my 2 cents with my psych degree. lol. oops, I guess now I sound elitist. lol)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 05/21/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

I agree with you, I have noticed that also. The other thing that bothers me is how little she ever congratulates him or in any way acknowledges his triumphs.

She seems very graceless and petty by comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 05/21/2008
- Bagger I'm a Fan of Bagger 17 fans permalink
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The Hillary supporters like the idea of a leader who puts herself/himself above everyone. Obama supporters generally like to feel apart of a team like we are the ones with the power. Hillary supporters like to be lead by a supposed omnipotent leader that will solve all of our problems. Those are the stereotypes I find cosistent. For some, the talk of "we" and "us" is foreign and actually makes them uncomfortable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 05/21/2008
- Kynn I'm a Fan of Kynn 7 fans permalink

That's one of the first things I noticed. More that Obama uses "we" and "use" when talking about his presidency and the future.

Hillary almost always uses "I" when talking about her presidency and how she sees the future.

With Obama it's what we can do. With Clinton it's what she can do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 05/21/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 119 fans permalink

he lost kentucky. hey it is a racist southern state. enough said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 05/21/2008
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