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McCain Backer Hagee Said Hitler Was Fulfilling God's Will (AUDIO)

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May 21, 2008 01:24 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God's behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a "hunter," sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God's will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.

Going in and out of biblical verse, Hagee preached: "'And they the hunters should hunt them,' that will be the Jews. 'From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.' If that doesn't describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can't see that."

He goes on: "Theodore Herzl is the father of Zionism. He was a Jew who at the turn of the 19th century said, this land is our land, God wants us to live there. So he went to the Jews of Europe and said 'I want you to come and join me in the land of Israel.' So few went that Hertzel went into depression. Those who came founded Israel; those who did not went through the hell of the holocaust.

"Then god sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says -- Jeremiah writing -- 'They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,' meaning there's no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don't let your heart be offended. I didn't write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel." (Listen to the audio below.)

The sermon, which was first posted by Bruce Wilson on his site, Talk To Action, adds another element to Hagee's controversial stance on the state and history of Israel. It also may provide a new round of political headaches for McCain who has admitted that seeking out Hagee's endorsement was a mistake, but still declared himself "glad to have" it.

A spokesman for Hagee confirmed the authenticity of the remark, which can be found at around the 1:08 mark of his sermon "Battle For Jerusalem."

Since McCain secured the endorsement, both his campaign and Hagee have been pressed to explain a series of derogatory remarks the Reverend made about the Catholic Church, including his reference to the institution as "the Great Whore."

Hagee has since apologized for those remarks. But his interpretation of the role of the Nazis could be harder to dismiss, in part because McCain and Sen. Barack Obama are expected to compete heavily over the Jewish vote come the general election, in part because McCain has said he admires Hagee's commitment to Israel, but mainly because similar theories have found their way into much of the Reverend's writings.

As Wilson notes, in his 2006 book "Jerusalem Countdown", Hagee proposed the theory that "anti-Semitism, and thus the Holocaust, was the fault of Jews themselves -- the result of an age old divine curse incurred by the ancient Hebrews through worshiping idols and passed, down the ages, to all Jews now alive." He also wrote that "Most readers will be shocked by the clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews."

Hagee is considered, in many political circles, to be one of the most passionate and strident supporters of Israel. He has spoken at AIPAC conferences and leads the evangelical group Christians United for Israel. But his views of the country, while possibly shared by others in the evangelical community, can be, at times, startling. Holding to the belief that Armageddon will come to earth following the reestablishment of the Kingdom of Israel, Hagee has advocated an aggressive war against Iran and has opposed any Israeli military withdrawal from the West Bank.

McCain, at least in the public record, has sought to thread the needle with the Hagee association: distancing himself from the controversial comment while reaping the political benefits of the Reverend's endorsement. Appearing on ABC's "'This Week" in late April 2008, McCain criticized Hagee's past remarks on the Catholic Church, but said that, "I admire and appreciate his advocacy for the state of Israel, the independence of the state of Israel."

 
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Well, I'm sorry for being a little behind the times. McCain has rejected Hagee's endorsement, along with another religious figure's for spewing on Islam. I guess there's hope for ol' Johnny-boy yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/25/2008
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The only reason this guy hasn't been totally shut down and maybe even prosecuted for his hateful ways is because he believes in having an Israeli state. A "friend" of Israel. Right. At the first opportunity he'd call for it's destruction, just as he is seeking Armageddon (I can't imagine someone in their right mind actually seeking Armageddon). For those of you who are unaware, Armageddon calls for, among other horrors, the death of a third of humanity. This f*cker is actively seeking *billions* of people being killed.

He calls himself a Christian--in name only. Anyone who is an advocate of hate and death cannot truly be a Christian. Anyone who knows anything about Christianity knows that it is based on the teachings of Christ, and at the foundation of Christ's teaching is love for humanity, whether high or low in society, whether good or bad in behavior, whether right or wrong in action, whether left or right in political orientation, whether accepted or rejected in the world. Hagee is no Christian. He is an evil little man who has subverted his charge with the wickedness he perpetrates. May God help him, and John McCain if he should keep his support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/25/2008
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Why must we be subjected to this man's twisted hate-mongering remarks? He is the worst shrill screeching, full of misapprehensions and misguided commentaries. He uses the Bible the way a butcher uses a cleaver, flinging his one-sided narrow-minded rationales around like blunt-force objects, bludgeoning the very spirit of the truth.

He says Hitler was sent by God. I see. So all the evil and death that resulted from Hitler's war of aggression that ended up with untold millions of people being killed, including 6,000,000 Jews, was God's idea, God's responsibility, God's fault? Oh, wait, the Jewish deaths are the fault of the Jewish people, the other millions of dead are God's fault? And the reason for sending Hitler was to give a really strong incentive to the Jewish people to establish a homeland in Israel?

Maybe someone here can come up with more off-the-wall, stunningly absurd, purely insane theories as to the whys and wherefores of Hitler's "purpose"?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/25/2008
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Congratulations on getting a mention for your article on Meet the Press.

You've been doing terrific work lately!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 05/25/2008

Hagee also said that "Jesus would return like Godzilla marching across America with firey breath and laser beam eyes incinerating all the sinners including the gays, abortionists, feminists, the ACLU and that Judgement Day is close at hand."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 05/25/2008

If the univers [all of Creation (metaphorically)] is the way Hagee says it is and God is as portrayed by these Christian Zionists I sure don't know if that is a universe I want to be part of.

Actually Fundamentalists like Robertson, Hagee, Bin Laden, Ahmadinajad and those idiots who run Burma all prove there was evolution and they went downhill.

We don't have to follow them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 AM on 05/25/2008

A neighbor once gave me a tape of Hagee narrating dramatizations how the anti-christ will come and the world will end. Needless to say, this neighbor and Hagee are both a couple of fruit loops.

To be fair, I am an atheist, but If you think I am just bashing them for being religious, you can read my defense of the polygamist sect, which is really a defense of the Constitution, here:

http://www.leeroyfdermit.com/2008/05/those-polygamists.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/24/2008
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I wonder why CNN left out the sentence where Hagee said "Well that will be offensive to some people. Well, dear heart, be offended." That was very damning and verified that he knew what he had said and meant to be understood clearly. I find it very revealing that McCain would just go grab a "spiritual leader" off the shelf without even reading the label so to speak. Obviously McCain has no spiritual leader and can't discriminate from a true spiritual person and some joker who obviously is not a very loving caring individual that promotes a God that kills and hates people not of the appropriate background. Apparently, he has no concept of decency and true intelligence to draw from either. Hagee clearly promotes a God that wants war and killing in the name of ethnic cleansing. These are unevolved people and they should not be in leadership positions, clearly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/24/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/24/2008

Pastor Hagee is no anti-semite. Real anti-semites do not teach people about Herzl nor do they accurately describe Hitler's behavior. Its shameful that a wedge is driven between Pastor Hagee and Senator McCain. People would have more understanding if they would listen to more of Pastor Hagee's sermons and listen to him in context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 05/24/2008

Perhaps so.....but all Fundamentalists...including Bin Laden, define scary.And, essentially, no matter their respective, carved in grantie tennets, it is what they have in common that is the issue. They have exited their brains and are on blind autopilot, hostage to the belief that whichever Bible they orchestrate everything by is literal in& absolute every word.

They live, ergo....from the outside IN, So this or that blind follower not fitting precisely into some model is moot. Step back and see all this Big Picture, cross culturally. Then ponder the brilliance of The Founders of America in separating church and state and how that has become increasingly compromised in recent years and the impact of that.

Short of making that journey of exploration....we will be doomed to us against THEM AND STUCK IN FALSE ALLIANCES....forget sacrificing individual intelligence to a given mass mindset. REPLICANTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/24/2008

I don't think Pastor Hagee, nor Reverand Wright's beliefs are comprable to Bin Laden's. Neither Hagee nor Wright promote violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 05/25/2008

You know this sort of sounds just like what several were saying about Rev Wright.
Such a double standard!
It seems to be a different set of rules for whites and blacks!
Clinton and McCain has gotten away with murder throughout this entire process!
I do not want to here Obama sat in the church for 20 years, Obama attended that church for more reasons than just Rev Wright. Even though I know it WAS Obama not McCain/Clinton or that reason would be exceptable. Double standard! I hope Obama pulls this off with all the obstacles he face.
Geraldine Farraro said Obama would not be this far if he were not a black man. He would not be so badly treated if he were not a black man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 05/24/2008

No, I don't see a double standard. Reverand Wright has promoted Zionism too. He promotes African Zionism. I don't condemn reverand Wright's Zionism, only his anti-americanism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 05/25/2008

See, here's what is really scary to me, speaking as someone who doesn't believe in Hagee's invisible friend. He honestly believes that he wasn't anti-semitic at all. He believes that sometimes God wipes out millions of people who don't follow his plan, and the only way you can avoid that fate is to live according to Hagee's, and others like him, interpretations of "prophecies" that were written in a book a couple of thousand years ago.

Take a look at this article from Hagee's local paper:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/politics/stories/MYSA.052308.hagee.EN.3899414.html

And make sure you read the statements by Rabbi Aryeh Sheinberg and by Rev. Hagee and tell me that, according to their so-called "logic," you couldn't justify any atrocity that takes place on our planet on their imaginary friend's plans being subverted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/24/2008
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I was just on the campus of Northwestern U where the college republicans have Hitler photos and references to Liberal fascism (associated with the sales of some silly book). All I could think of was how conservative Hitler was--loved money and "business" and was against diversity. I'm glad that Hagee is backing me up on this perception.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/24/2008

Yeah I am not buying into this spin. McCain did not sit in Hagee's church for 20 years. He did not donate over 20k to the church. Hagee did not marry McCain&Cindy.Hagee did not baptize his children. McCain did not name a book after one of his sermons. It is sad the media defends obama on every issue while they commit CHARACTER ASSASSINATION on the Clintons. Rev.Wright get a pass? Typical white people who cling to guns&religion will not fall for this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/23/2008

People like you... Obama attended that church for 20 years because they did a whole hell of alot for the community. Rev Wright was not the only person in that church, Obama attended for reasons other than Wright.
McCain went after Hagee's endorsement for over a year (or longer), knowing what his beliefs were....
Also, you need to listen to the Wright sermon in its entirety, before you jump to judgement! What Hagee said was more evil than anything that Wright said.
By the way Rev and/or pastors of your church marry people and baptise their children that is completely that is WHAT THEY DO- perfectly normal.
Obama grew up fatherless, so he looked up to Wright as a father figure. That is why he did not denounce him in the beginning. I respect for Obama for sticking to his guns no matter what MSM and others like you said.
He denounces him when he needed to!
Just because you love someone does no mean you share their views!
Wake up people and stop being racist and unfair, because you are jealous of Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/24/2008
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"Just because you love someone does no[t] mean you share their views!" I just thought the statement bore being repeated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/25/2008

Hmmm, Hagee sez god sent Hitler.

Hagee sez he [now?] hates Hitler.

Does that mean Hagee hates the entity that sent Hitler?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 05/23/2008

MAJOR LOON!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 05/23/2008
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