Clinton Compares Florida, Michigan Situation To Zimbabwe Elections

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First Posted: 05-22-08 09:31 AM   |   Updated: 05-30-08 05:12 AM

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Hillary Clinton is pushing harder and harder to convince the DNC to count the votes held in Florida in Michigan. And with reports suggesting that she is just going through the motions of the election, Clinton has apparently decided to ratchet up the rhetoric. During a rally in Florida yesterday, she not only compared the current situation to the 2000 election, she also referenced rigged elections in Zimbabwe:

Desperate to get attention for her cause to seat Florida and Michigan delegates, Hillary Clinton compared the plight of Zimbabweans in their recent fraudulent election to the uncounted votes of Michigan and Florida voters saying it is wrong when "people go through the motions of an election only to have them discarded and disregarded."


"We're seeing that right now in Zimbabwe," Clinton explained. "Tragically, an election was held, the president lost, they refused to abide by the will of the people," Clinton told the crowd of senior citizens at a retirement community in south Florida.

"So we can never take for granted our precious right to vote. It is the single most important, privilege and right any of us have, because in that ballot box we are all equal. You're equal to a billionaire. You're equal to the president, every single one of us."

Steve Benen, for one, isn't exactly pleased with Clinton's comparison:

I'm 35, and have been following politics for quite a while, and I've never been so disappointed with a politician I've admired and respected. Yesterday's tactics weren't just wrong, they were offensive. For that matter, they seem to be part of a deliberate strategy to tear Democrats apart and ensure a defeat in November....


Instead of trying to help bring the party together -- Election Day is 24 weeks away -- Clinton went to Florida to argue that if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, his nomination will be illegitimate. And if the DNC plays by the rules Clinton used to support, it's guilty of vote-suppression -- comparable to slavery, Jim Crow, and Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe.

Meanwhile, the Obama camp has suggested their willingness to find some form of compromise. David Axelrod told NPR:

"We are open to comprise [sic]. We are willing to go more than half way. We're willing to work to make sure that we can achieve a compromise. And I guess the question is: is Senator Clinton's campaign willing to do the same?"


Axelrod continues: "Well, obviously, any compromise is going to involve some give, and that means if there's something on the table, we're willing to consider it. That may include us yielding more delegates than perhaps we would have, simply on the basis of the rules."

Hillary Clinton is pushing harder and harder to convince the DNC to count the votes held in Florida in Michigan. And with reports suggesting that she is just going through the motions of the election...
Hillary Clinton is pushing harder and harder to convince the DNC to count the votes held in Florida in Michigan. And with reports suggesting that she is just going through the motions of the election...
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- SFkid I'm a Fan of SFkid 3 fans permalink

The Clintons will go down in history as political babies. I can no longer stand any of them, they lack any sort of class or leadership. They want to be like the Kennedy's but are more like the Clampets. They need to be shut down by the PEOPLE because the Democratic leaders don't have the courage to stand up to them. Let her run and finish the primary then we can tar, feather them and banish them to Australia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/22/2008
- ZimboChick I'm a Fan of ZimboChick 92 fans permalink
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Tasmania to be precise

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 05/22/2008

Are there some very good psychoanalysts out there? Hillary needs treatment: an implosive therapy or systematic desensitization. Either process will work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/22/2008
- Mabila I'm a Fan of Mabila 10 fans permalink
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Thank goodeness America your voting system has a lot of integrity to it!
I hate to think of the election rigging that the Billary machinery would have been able to evoke just to het Hillary nominated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/22/2008
- Jaxxon I'm a Fan of Jaxxon 4 fans permalink
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What ever happened to following the rules?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 05/22/2008

the rule about following the rules is only in effect when convenient or advantageous --

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/22/2008
- FCBarca I'm a Fan of FCBarca 10 fans permalink
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Lunatic, she is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 05/22/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Somebody someday will make a movie about the Hillary train wreck.

Amanda Plummer could play the lead, I love her. She does "unhinged woman" real well. Her scene in the cafe in Pulp Fiction could be her audition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/22/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

I think Britney Spears would be better or maybe Sean Young....remember the whole Cat Woman thing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/22/2008

“Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!”

This complete “sham” about defending voters’ rights is making me ill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/22/2008
- rabprevent I'm a Fan of rabprevent 11 fans permalink

THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THEY SEEM RELUCTANT TO SHUT DOWN THIS NONSENSE AND SHOWING THEIR LACK OF COJONES. SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT THE CLINTONS IN THEIR PLACE AND THE FACT THAT SHE IS ATTEMPTING TO BLAME OBAMA FOR THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
IN MY OPINION, THE DEMOCRATS IN FL ARE TO BLAME, THEY GOT RIP OFF IN 2000 AND YET THEY FAILED TO USE THAT DURING THE ELECTIONS FOR GOVERNOR AND THE SENATE AND ALLOWED THESE BAFOON REPUBLICANS TO GET ELECTED. THEY NEED TO HAVE THE GOVERNOR VOTED OUT OF OFFICE ALONG WITH THE SENATE TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THESE CLOWNS.

PEOPLE IN FL NEED TO HAVE A LONG MEMORY FOR 2000 AND 2008 AND VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE, IF YOU DO NOT THINK THAT MOVING THE PRIMARY WAS NOT A TACTICAL MOVE ON THEIR PART, YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/22/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

The DNC should throw out the superdelegates in FL and MI who created this mess by breaking the rules. Punishment is absolutely required.

The Democratic party has no discipline. They had better get some, fast. That is why they keep losing elections, or getting elections stolen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 05/22/2008
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There's a little key on your left marked "Caps Lock."

Tap it once and if you ever touch it again you will suffer a fate worse than death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 05/22/2008
- keriheb I'm a Fan of keriheb 6 fans permalink

This lady is mad, split the party and kick the Clintons to the curb.

All these threats and dishonest arguments and threats of nuclear whatever.

The only nuclear action is to split the part and get rid of political trash called Clinton with their sexism and racism and war mongering and preferential treatment.

Cut them off and split them out of the party and let the chips fall where they may.

Let Howard Dean take the heat for being so weak and the rest of dems in Michigan and Florida should be sent out to sea for causing such mayhem.

It is time to move on get the death over with. Let HRC die and the party move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/22/2008
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Such class!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 05/22/2008
- nibblybits I'm a Fan of nibblybits 14 fans permalink

Politico is reporting that Clinton supporters are organizing to bus people to the Rules and Bylaws meeting in DC on May 31. They plan to storm the meeting, even though there are strict rules about noise and the audience will not be allowed to speak.

These people need some lives. They can't seem to deal with reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 05/22/2008
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They're using the Bush tactics from Florida in 2000.

How very Hillary of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/22/2008
- mnash I'm a Fan of mnash 3 fans permalink

Sounds like a good time for the superdelegates to step out and take control. Problem is they are afraid of the Clintons. I can't believe she is threatening the DNC and they are doing nothing. As I looked at the headline with that picture, it gave me the impression something else was going on . Are all the people in Zimbabwe black? And do we really want a president, male of female in the White House who throws tantrums like this?? Or a VP like that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/22/2008
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Are you serious? LINK!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/22/2008

It really isn't that difficult to get to politico.com without a link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/22/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Probably lots of Republican poseurs in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 05/22/2008
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 63 fans permalink

Meanwhile, the most ridiculous part of the Bill and Hillary show is their insistence that they are being unfairly treated as they continue to run a campaign awashed in debt and little substantive chance in overturning the delegate lead. Yet, they whine and groan that Obama is getting a free ride and that she is fairing less as a woman than he as a black man, which is a blatent lie at best.

If this candidate wasn't a Clinton which means more than the simplistic label of female that she pushes around whenever its convenient for her, Hillary would have been ushered out of this race shortly after losing 11 straight contests. In many of those contests, Hillary not only lost but lost big, but the MSM treated her differently as it was in their best interest to sell the 'Bill and Hillary' continuing drama.

The pure dishonesty and overt lies of the Clintons must never be allowed to reside in our Whitehouse, ever again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/22/2008
- IraqVet04 I'm a Fan of IraqVet04 3 fans permalink

Oh the irony.

Quote of the day: "Tragically, an election was held, (she) lost, (she) refused to abide by the will of the people."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/22/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

"The whole idea of superdeletates is, they are supposed to exercise their independent judgment, and I think we should respect that."

She wants the superdels to overturn the will of the people. It's near the end, if you want to listen: http://youtube.com/watch?v=J_eBIpEuO4U

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 05/22/2008
- SeaOats I'm a Fan of SeaOats 2 fans permalink

This is horrible to watch.

Her oddball sense of entitlement has descended into psychosis, and
everyone around her, including her husband, is encouraging her descent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/22/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

And that is just the thing...imagine if she DOEs steal the nomination this way.

The GOP will have a veritable PARADE of shrinks making commercials saying she is mentally unstable.

Quite frankly I think she is. Now I know candidates are not supposed to have mental defects or something like that - my question is - when EXACTLY do they ever test to make sure candidates are NOT nuts? And how did Bush pass?

I mean at this point you don't have to be a rocket scientist or even a shrink to see Clinton has some severe reality issues. And that is serious. I think she is -seriously- disqualified for running for president on the basis of being nuts. Seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/22/2008
- chs1965 I'm a Fan of chs1965 2 fans permalink

Didn't Clinton make a statement in October 2007 that it was clear that the votes in MI and Fl would not count? Oops, she obviously misspoke then and now is catching her error. She may have said this after 11 p.m. , when we all know that she and Bill are tired and are not responsible for what they say.
If superdelagates had any cojones they would stop this sociopathic woman now. Oh, I am sorry, that is sexist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/22/2008
- candyc I'm a Fan of candyc 13 fans permalink

I've been reading about how this will end. All along, I've been under the impression that if another 70 or 80 SuperDs pledge to Obam, the nomination is his. period.

Now I'm reading that this awful woman can simply suspend her campaign and still insist on being nominated at the convention!
Have we all been duped?
Does any one know the answer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/22/2008

The pivotal point, IMO, is the Rules meeting on the 31st. If a compromise is reached, but Clinton appeals the ruling, it goes to the credentials committee at the convention. This has been their plan for anyone who has been paying close attention. The only ones who can stop this (possibly) is the supers, by choosing a side before then. 2025 must be reached before the Rules meeting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/22/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

You can read her words, and Obama's, from September 2007. They both pledged to respect the DNC rules.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/chrnothp08/pledge083107resp.html

Only Obama was true to his word. Obama at least urged FL and MI to obey the rules because he WANTED them to be counted. Clinton dissed them, thinking Super Tuesday would cinch it for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 05/22/2008
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