Clinton Supporters Plan To 'Swarm' DNC Meeting

So, if I have this right, here are the potential remaining battles in the 2008 Democratic Primary process: Primaries in South Dakota, Montana, and Puerto Rico. A meeting of the DNC Rules and By-Laws Committee to determine how the Democrats will continue to pretend to "punish" Florida and Michigan for moving their primary without actually enforcing any rules or handing down any penalties. Then, possibly, a superdelegate convention where uncommitted superdelegates will be forced at gunpoint to make a decision they could have plausibly made months ago. And finally, a full tilt bloodbath at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, which will prepare America for when John McCain is named King of America and Her United Anbar Provinces, propels us via time machine to the year 2013, and then explains how our Chinese overlords have forced us into a largely "Thunderdome-based" economy.

Speaking to the voters of the Sunshine State yesterday, Senator Hillary Clinton invoked the 2000 Recount Fiasco and spoke of the lessons learned. Now, for me, the lessons mainly are: "Do not allow the fate of our democracy to rest on David Boies' shoulders," but for Clinton, it's different:

"We believe the popular vote is the truest expression of your will...We believe it today just as we believed it back in 2000 when right here in Florida, you learned the hard way what happens when your votes aren't counted, and the candidate with fewer votes is declared the winner. The lesson of 2000 here in Florida is crystal clear. If any votes aren't counted, the will of the people isn't realized and our democracy is diminished. That's what I've always believed."

But that's not the only lesson she's learned from Florida:

The next Democratic donnybrook will be in a Washington ballroom.

Busloads of Hillary Clinton supporters will swarm a meeting next week at a D.C. Marriott, where Democratic Party elders hope to forge a compromise over Florida and Michigan's now-voided convention delegates.

"We really don't know what to expect, but we do know that the Clinton people are very organized," said a senior Democratic National Committee source.

Tactically, this takes a page right from the Karl Rove Recount 2000 playbook: send a mob of angry villagers to turn a relatively genteel process into a shrill folderol. Nevertheless, while the stage is set for roving gangs of superfluous supporters to disrupt the DNC proceedings, this will still be a model of decorum and tranquility compared to Clinton's other bizarre voter-rights reference, Zimbabwe. Though it should be noted that Zimbabwe's electoral strife would have been magnified one hundred-fold if it had featured Howard Wolfson conference calls.

Comments

[Parkhurst]

Unbelievable how chicken the Obamists are. They will tolerate no opposition. Gutless to the last. Well, hey guys, you're brave in anonymous groups - let's see how you perform face to face, one-on-one, at the convention.

You threatened race riots if Obama was not nominated. A bunch of yellow-livered gangsters. You want a floor fight -

looks like you're going to get one.

31st of May, seat the FL and MI delegates, then on to Denver - let's take back our party and stop the rot.

[Valkyrie]

Hey Parkhurst, if you're itching for a moronic fight, maybe you should head on over to the Republican convention where you and Hillary belong. Fight there.

[MaeScott]

Absolutely. Fall in line with the republicans, Parkhurst. You're no true Dem. We're sick of twisted lies. Go back to where you belong.

[Parkhurst]

Sorry sport, we're democrats, and it's our party you threaten. It is you guys who promise race riots if Obama is not nominated. Your gangster tactics will be met head on. We will not compromise with thugs.

See you at the convention.

[FirstShirt]

Now girls, leave a little red meat for the repubs. We are feeling very ignored.

[AfricanLived]

You can't make this argument AFTER Hillary has lost the race FAIR AND SQUARE... She has lost the race... what else do you want?

[Parkhurst]

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"Clinton is the biggest sore loser in 20 years. She has lost- why can't she and her supporters recognize that? Gawd."

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Maybe it's because she hasn't lost - gawd!

No delegate has voted and no delegate will vote until the convention. She already has the majority of the popular vote. There is nothing in the rules that say the candidate with the majority of the pledge delegates must be nominated. This was something invented by the Obama campaign.

Explain to me the rule that says she's lost? Look at the rules govening the nomination process. You can't do it, because according to the rules she hasn't lost. No votes will be cast by any delegate until the convention.

Now, read my lips, genius, just in case you didn't understand - there is nothing in the nominating rules that requires that the candidate with a majority of the pledge delegates be nominated - nothing.

No more than there is anything in the rules that says the candidate with the majority of the popular vote must be nominated- - but both have a reasonable argument to take to the convention.

Now Einstein, what part of the above don't you understand?

[GingerB]

Michelle Bernard, one of MSNBC's new "political analysts," said, "There is no way the super-delegates can take this away from Barack Obama. There will be race riots in the street."

She's the only one I've ever seen or heard of who made any such comment. Go aim your bravado her way face to face, one-on-one. Go kick her "yellow-livered gangster" butt.

In the meantime I'll be laughing.

[gwhizz]

here we go again with the riot threats.

Obamanation's creed: If we can't convince them, we'll terrify them!

[Softnsweet]

Parkhurst ,

Well what is Hillary, she is starting a race riot.

[ApolloniaCreed]

In your first sentence you say Obama supporter are "chicken" and then you go on to say they want to start a "race riot"... they seem a little contradictory, no? Chicken, yellow-livered gangsters? *laughs* ...and you intend to take your party back from whom? Other Democrats? Thanks for the laugh...

[SURRYMARK]

If Obama picks Clinton for VP, I'm almost certain that I would still vote for him, but I won't send any more money. How about you?

Hillary on the ticket would simply be too much of the old stuff, and, if elected, we'd once again have a lying, manipulative, secretive person speaking for the United States.

[gladys46]

Can't see Hillary Clinton being even an option for Obama to consider as VP. She voted to authorize G.Bush's agressive war mess ... she said she wanted her vote back ... but, never actually apologized as other democratic candidates did! Perhaps she or M.Pinn decided that she would appear "weak" had she "apologized" for her vote .. it's vertually too late for those apologies though! Further, she is no option for Obama's consideration since she is "they" The Clintons ... twofers ... as was clearly said by that other side ... nobody wants even to imagine Bill Clinton in that White House with nothing to do! Hillary and Bill would be a hellava way to begin a "change" administration!

[Earl]

I won't vote for anyone who argued in favor of George Bush's Iraq war. Thus, if Obama is not the Dem candidate, I'm voting for Nader.

I find it disappointing how the MSM only asks people if they'd vote for McCain if their first choice wasn't on the Dem ticket. To me, that kind of fake "choice" is just moronic.

[likeicare]

Aren't hese the same people who were howling with indignation about Obama supporters' suggestions that they might boycott the GE if the Clintons were allowed to steal the nomination from him, a few weeks ago? And now they're threatening a "seige of the Bastille" strategy to coerce the powers that be?

This seems disingenuous at best, and hypocritical at the very least.

Why does the Democratic Party continue to put up with the Clintons' bullying? Is there no one in the party's higher echelons who has the balls to stand up to these two old egomaniacs and tell them that their 15 minutes of fame is O-V-E-R?

[Blackstone]

Barack Obama should claim 100 per cent of the popular vote of all registered democrats in caucus states that he has won. This seems only fair as these voters are not represented in Clinton's popular vote claims.

[Blackstone]

It may have escaped peoples notice but Hillary Clinton has long since lost the nomination. Superdelegates are simply waiting for the end of the primaries before coming out for Obama. Hillary can kick and scream about MI and FL but they are going to be seated without giving any advantage to her. The populer vote is simply a meaningless political smokescreen, this was always a delegate race
somebdy tell me that i'm wrong

[jubo]

(is the picture from James Whale's Frankenstein?)

[Biracial1]

Let the "swarm" protest. After this, she will lose her Senate seat in 2012 and become outcasts in the Democratic Party !!!!!!

[JohnKemp]

Relax

Obama will be declared the "illegitimate" nominee by the DNC; it's too scared to do otherwise.

Pretty dumb, though, to have wasted so much time & money on a bunch of meaningless primaries; in 2012, just let the super-delegates decide the whole thing from the beginning.

[dollars2donuts]

How "illegitimate" when he's won almost twice as many states, the REAL popular vote (which includes caucus states and not MI where he was not on ballot), and almost 200 more delegates!

*Race* is the only thing that can be motivating your myopic fuzzy math. Go by a calculator, "my friend".

Clinton/Rove '08

[McPander]

Unite...he really doesn't have to:
To the remaining Hillary supporters here is my suggestion for Obama's next move.
Pick Chuck Hagel as VP.
Then pledge to compromise on Judges with the religious right. The only issue that keeps the religious right out of the party is abortion. Make it a states rights issues, sinse for the most part the clinics are gone.

This will strangle the Hillary part of the party and double the base of the democratic party.
It has been shown that women will vote for McCain just like they did for Bush in 2004 then abortion isn't that important to them anymore.
This would make the Democratic party invincible for the next 50 years.

[gladys46]

I expect Donna Brazil (ck sp) and and many of the other "true" feminist who serve on that board to stand tall for truth and what is fair vis a vis the rules initially brought forth by them as the rules deciders!!

Obama ought not be penalized by the results of anything that Fl and Mi party leaders made clearly their own authority to do, to have happen! Although the republican leaders of Fl are absolutely accomplices in this mess .... Fl democratic leaders should have could have made far more noise in attempts to cause this eventual mess not to happen! Hllary Clinton should have, could have made much noise back then ... now is most certainly not the time nor it Hillary's noise now in the best interest of the democratic part!! No matter this triade from Hillary's "babyboomers" this primary must not by any means be slanted just to give Hillary an edge over Obama after people who had the authority to make rules did just that ... THEY MADE THE RULES nd Obama respectfully obeyed those same RULES!!

[Parkhurst]

McPander wrote:
"Unite...h­e really doesn't have to:
To the remaining Hillary supporters here is my suggestion for Obama's next move."

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Uh, the "remaining" Hillary supporters are the MAJORITY of the party, genius.

I think there can be no compromise with these Obama cultists. This is turning into a fight for the soul of the democratic party against these nuts, and we the majority must unite to defeat this cancer.

No surrender and no compromise with thuggery.

[McPander]

Next week you will not have a cndidate in the race....th­e next move is to decide if the radical HRC supporters can be brought back if not then my Obama nuclear option would be a good approach.

[gladys46]

...."remai­ning" Hillary supportors are the MAJORITY of the party ...

Hillary has no "remaining" supporters ... Hillary can't win a thing without the african american base ... you might want to ask that "huge" base of the democratic party .... hey answer is ... WE will sit it out buddy ... Hillary won't win many, many states that she is eronerously attempting to usurp!! Without the african american base ... J.McCain will walk right into that WH basically unasailed

[cheforacle]

You are delusional. It is the Hillary supporters who are thinking of going to the DNC meeting. They are the ones considering thuggery. Obama has won the majority of the popular vote. Hillary lied when she says she has always believed in counting the votes in FLA and MI. She is not worthy of being President as she is a well-documented liar. The millions of Obama supporters are not cultists just as 99% of Hillary's supporters are good Americans.

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

“Uh, the "remaining" Hillary supporters are the MAJORITY of the party, genius.”

Black people vote for Democrats over 88% in the general election, congressional, mayoral, and gubernatorial. No other sect of the Democratic Party is as loyal as black people.

“Hard working Americans, white Americans” vote overwhelmingly Republican. AND will continue to do that. They don’t like abortion and they don’t like Civil Rights. These are you state-rights folks who left the party after 1964.

Bill Clinton lost the white vote AND only won the presidency because Perot and Bush 41 split the white. Hence Hillary’s former position to “screw them”.

Hillaryites buy whatever mama bear sells.

[DMW1]

Please provide numbers showing how she possibly has the majority. And try to use real math, not Hillary math. Are you discounting all the caucuses like Hillary?

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

"This will strangle the Hillary part of the party and double the base of the democratic party.
It has been shown that women will vote for McCain just like they did for Bush in 2004 then abortion isn't that important to them anymore."

I totally agree with this statement and everything else you said. This abortion thing keeps Dems from keeping the majority.

[Lisette]

Sounds like Hillary is going to crash and burn.

God she is really spinning out of control.

[Mattatat]

I have news for you. Hillary Clinton is not who you should be worrying about.

Every day now, John McCain is softening up Obama with small, but effective punches. Commenting about his inexperience, his age, and yesterday, Rev. Wright again. He is trying to slowly destroy a candidate that does not like to play tough. And we're still almost half a year away from the election.

So before you decide to continue your idiotic rants about Hillary Clinton, I'd suggest you remember that Obama is going to need someone as tough as her to get down in the mud with McCain; thus allowing Obama to stay above the fray.

Those that are still whining about Clinton, get your head out of your a*s.

[BlueStateMan]

She'll support the Democratic nominee in the final analysis..­.. but you're right about where the ire should be directed.

[RoSull]

I feel like Obama has had to tred lightly because of HIllary Clinton. I truly believe that once Obama is the official democratic nominee that he will not stay on the defensive for long. HIs campaign and the democratic party as a whole has learned from letting the republicans set the tone of the general election.

I certainly am not whining about HIllary Clinton. and I feel as if she could have been a very effective running mate 4 months ago. At this time, I think she is better served as an ardent supporter and that there are better choices that Obama can consider for VP. Better options that have stronger (and more credible) foreign policy experience.

[CocteausTwin]

I am not whining when I say I don't trust her. If you think Obama will not be tough as nails with Mccain you are mistaken. He has shown respect to Clinton because she is a fellow Democrat. One does not be able eat one on their own to prove they are tough.

McCain is toast.

We hope you will join us even if Clinton should not be on the ticket.

[KansasMamaforObama]

Mattatat, don't you worry your pretty little head about Obama. He has been doing just fine. He is tough enough and getting tougher by the day.

[gladys46]

John McCain is effectively loosing each and every issues based argument!! From sane foreign policies to a generous GI bill for our vets to religious associations (not that that should ever have become a political issue in the first place)!

If any truth be told and aired on this rediculously slanted, spun out, electronic media and Obama is given the air time to rebut McCain and Hillary (since she continues to attack him) he (Obama) will traunce McCain! McCain is an angry person, he is a knee-jerk reactionary ... and does not possess the temperment that an american president ought to possess ... our country needs cooler heads, thoughtful heads and by all means someone who does not consider WAR our very first reaction or response unless we or our closes allies which includes Israel are actually militarily attacked by anyone!

Again, McCain is loosing miserably every real argument, one-by- one, day-by-day!

[jkpcguru]

One of the biggest reasons Obama CAN'T put her on the ticket is

HER AND BILL CLINTON ARE CURRENTLY BEING SUED for Campaign Finance Fraud in California.

Obama doesn't need his VP to be entangled in a Lawsuit

Don't believe me???

Google Peter Paul or go to http://www.peterfpaul.com/

She's probably fighting hard to make it to the white house so she can make the problem go away

[katzooks]

You underestimate the Clintons. They have, they can and they will do as they jolly well please. And don't expect the reality police to step in and fix this.

The Clintons have shown the same arrogance toward the Peter Paul lawsuit as Karl Rove shows toward the Justice Department. Such is the privilege of unchecked power.

The key is for Obama to continue a campaign of integrity, which includes NOT letting anyone blackmail him into adding Hillary to the VP ticket.

[jubo]

...and it reeks of implosion.

[jubo]

About the 'superdelegates lawsuit against the DNC'. Why wait so long?

Something's up.

[Valkyrie]

I had an immediate suspicion of the timing as well. I think the lawsuit is to tie up the matter until convention for Hillary.

That way Hillary can keep saying the matter is unresolved and keep going.

[LuckyKay]

Of course in hindsight the Clinton campaign sees the problems with caucuses, punishing states for moving up primary dates, etc. They were discovering all of these problems as they encountered them in the middle of the primary race. Herein lies the serious problem- they didn't know how to campaign for each state's election. Barack Obama and his campaign studied the rules, did their homework on delegate allocation and formulated their campaign to gain a majority of pledged delegates to secure a victory. If you don't know the rules or how to play, you shouldn't be in the game. It's like entering a basketball game and not knowing the rules and complaining about your loss because you didn't know you couldn't travel with the basketball or double dribble (I'm not great with sports analogies).

Regardless of how "close" the race is, a win is a win. Hillary Clinton said that herself. No one cheated her out of it. The ineptitude in which she ran her campaign is to blame, nothing more, nothing less. The math is against her. She cannot claim a majority in the popular vote because two of the caucus states Obama won do not report these numbers.

While it is unfair, I always wonder what Hillary Clinton would be doing if the roles were reversed. Something to think about.

[SaddieMcCall]

After Bill having been involved in two Presidential elections in the past, how could they not know the rules? How does someone with so little experience (as they love to point out) be so much more knowledgeable and skillful at playing and winning by the rules?

[MaeScott]

I want a president that I feel I can trust. I just don't trust her.

[DMW1]

6 out of 10 Americans don't trust Hillary Clinton