Steven Soderbergh Defends And Explains Epic "Che"

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DAVID GERMAIN | May 22, 2008 08:41 PM EST | AP

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Puerto Rican actor Benicio Del Toro is seen at the "Che" press conference during the 61st International film festival in Cannes, southern France, on Thursday, May 22, 2008. (AP Photo/Francois Mori)

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CANNES, France (AP) _ Unless it is one of his "Ocean's Eleven" casino romps, Steven Soderbergh never makes things easy for an audience.

With his epic film biography of Latin American revolutionary Che Guevara, which premiered at the Cannes Film Festival, Soderbergh defiantly has made the story he wanted to see, one that will prove a very tough sell to some audiences.

The two-part saga runs four hours, 30 minutes. It is almost entirely in Spanish, a particular challenge for U.S. viewers who dislike subtitles. It dispenses with many cliches of the biopic, offering virtually no insight into the origin of Che's brand of humanism, instead presenting impressionistic glimpses of Che's idealism in action during the Cuban revolution and his attempt to foment a similar transformation in Bolivia.

Soderbergh was prepared for reporters' skepticism on all fronts at a Cannes news conference Thursday.

On shooting in Spanish:

"You can't make a film with any level of credibility in this case unless it's in Spanish," Soderbergh said. "I hope we're reaching a time where you go make a movie in another culture, that you shoot in the language of that culture. I'm hoping the days of that sort of specific brand of cultural imperialism have ended."

On the length:

"Just the further you get into it, it felt like if you're going to have context, then it's just going to have to be a certain size," Soderbergh said.

On the unconventional structure:

"I find it hilarious that most of the stuff being written about movies is how conventional they are, and then you have people ... upset that something's not conventional," Soderbergh said. "The bottom line is we're just trying to give you a sense of what it was like to hang out around this person. That's really it. And the scenes were chosen strictly on the basis of, 'Yeah, what does that tell us about his character?'"

Starring Benicio Del Toro, the Oscar-winning co-star of Soderbergh's "Traffic," as Guevara, the two films were shot as "The Argentine" and "Guerrilla." The cast includes Franka Potente, Catalina Sandino Moreno and Demian Bichir as Fidel Castro. Soderbergh buddy Matt Damon, part of the star-studded "Ocean's Eleven" ensemble, makes a brief appearance.

"The Argentine" juxtaposes Guevara and Castro's late 1950s triumph in Cuba with flashbacks to their early planning days in Mexico and Che's visit to New York City in the mid-1960s, when he was greeted with condemnation and death threats over the Castro regime's iron-fisted rule.

"Guerrilla" follows the downfall of Guevara as his grass-roots campaign in Bolivia degenerates into a handful of scraggly, starving rebels on the run from vastly superior government forces in the jungle.

Che was executed in Bolivia in 1967. Much of the world now has only a superficial grasp of Che as a symbol of revolution from T-shirts and posters depicting his boldly smiling face.

While it may be hard to persuade audiences to see it a first time, the story requires repeated viewings to really appreciate it, said Del Toro, also a producer on the project.

"It reminds me of the painter who did a portrait of this lady, and when he gave it to the lady, the lady said, `That portrait doesn't look anything like me.' And the painter said, 'Oh, it will,'" Del Toro said. "I really think that eventually, those people, when they see the movie for the third time, they'll start seeing things, they'll start seeing dimensions and angles, maybe a look or a smile or the use of this or a character here and there. ... I know them very well, but I'm still finding stuff."

The films were presented as one entry at Cannes under the name "Che." They played without credits, the way Soderbergh would prefer to see it initially released to general audiences.

"Here's what I would like to do is, every time it opens in a town, let's say, that for a week, you can see it as one movie for the first week, and then you split it off into two films," Soderbergh said. "That's what I would like to do is have a sort of roadshow engagement, no credits ... a printed program that comes with the movie. To me, that would be an event."

How the films actually will play in the U.S. and other countries will depend on deals Soderbergh strikes as he shops it around to distributors at Cannes.

"Che" is competing for the top prize at Cannes, the Palme d'Or, which Soderbergh won with his feature debut, "sex, lies and videotape," in 1989.

While Soderbergh talked seriously and passionately about his desire to make the films, he also had a ready wisecrack for his motivation:

"It's all a very elaborate way for us to sell our own T-shirts," Soderbergh said.

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Is anyone else offended by the line "It is almost entirely in Spanish, a particular challenge for U.S. viewers who dislike subtitles. "

People think Americans are so dumb and lazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 05/24/2008


like many people in countries that are not called the united states of america, i speak 3 languages. most americans speak...american. they can't even sit through british films.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/25/2008

No, I really don't think they meant to offend. There's tons of people who don't like subtitles. But I do agree with the director, you can't make a movie about Che' and it not be in spanish. This will be the kind of movie you'll have to watch several times to really get it. A four hour long movie, geez, you're really gonna have to be a huge Benicio/Soderburgh fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 05/24/2008

Traffic and Solaris are very cool Soderbergh movies that I feel are very re-watchable, so I expect this work to be worth seeing. Anything Del Torro is in is also worth a look. (Fenster!)
The Motorcycle Diaries was a very entertaining film about how Che became Che, and it was in Spanish. Perhaps Soderbergh has made an unedited 4-1/2 hour action sequel?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 05/23/2008

The only film of his I have ever liked was Bubble, and even that had a bad music score so it wasn't great, just good. I find it funny that the director has made a 4.5 hour film that requires explanations to sell it to an American audience. In the past he has specialized in what I call Soderbergh Lite, taking complex and intellectually stimulating foreign films like Traffik and Solaris, scraping the heart of the story out, and packaging the Amero version as something even stupid moviegoers can enjoy. Why not just re-distribute the original? Because he doesn't think we're smart, that's why. It's also the explanation for the seizure inducing editing of his popular Hollywood movies. He thinks we are dumb. Soderbergh: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/23/2008

Eerie parallel with Medellien from HBO's Entourage. Was that not a coincidence?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 05/23/2008

My thoughts, exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 05/24/2008

I wonder if Soderbergh paid the family the rights of his story?The family has numerous
lawsuits throughout the world for back royalitie of the sale of his likeness,Hey if the former
wife of Elvis can do it as many others followed suit why not Che's?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 05/23/2008

Mel Gibson released a film in "Assyrian Neo-Aramaic | Aramaic | Latin | Hebrew" according to IMDb. If a movie is good, there are still enough non-mouth-breathers in this country who'll go see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 05/22/2008

One of the reasons I could never stand Brian DePalma's movie "Scarface" is that two minutes into the movie, the Al Pacino character says: "okay, we have to practise our English so for now on, no more Spanish" which, of course, was just an excuse to appeal to American audiences who don't like reading subtitles. So, kudos to Soderbergh for sticking to Spanish.
As for the movie, I wonder whether Soderbergh glossed over Che's main job in the Cuban Revolution, which was as an executioner. Che loved to personally execute people, including children. And hundreds were killed under his watch. How was this portrayed, if at all, in the film?
I wonder, also, how Che's death was portrayed. Che died like the coward that he was...was that shown or was it mythologized?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 05/22/2008

I've read that the film skips over the dark side Che, including the executions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/24/2008

that's a shame, and invalidates the entire project.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/25/2008

Scarface was smart enough to realize that speaking Spanish would get him nowhere in his quest for domination of the Florida drug trade...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/22/2008

I saw both films. Yes, they are two normal length features, and they are both brilliant works. Soderberg is an extraordinary artist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 05/22/2008
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