Polygamist Sect's Children Should Not Have Been Seized By Texas, Court Rules

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MICHELLE ROBERTS | May 22, 2008 10:46 PM EST | AP

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Marie Steed, a member of Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, cries in front of the Tom Green County courthouse after hearing of an appellate court ruling during the fourth day of custody hearings near San Angelo, Texas, Thursday, May 22, 2008. The Austin, Texas appeals court ruled that the state had no cause to take their children. (AP Photo/LM Otero)

SAN ANGELO, Texas — In a ruling that could torpedo the case against the West Texas polygamist sect, a state appeals court Thursday said authorities had no right to seize more than 440 children in a raid on the splinter group's compound last month.

The Third Court of Appeals in Austin said the state failed to show the youngsters were in any immediate danger, the only grounds in Texas law for taking children from their parents without court action.

It was not clear when the children _ now scattered in foster homes across the state _ might be returned to their parents. The ruling gave a lower-court judge 10 days to release the youngsters from custody, but the state could appeal to the Texas Supreme Court and block that.

The decision in one of the biggest child-custody cases in U.S. history was a humiliating defeat for the state Child Protective Services agency. It was hailed as vindication by members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, who claimed they were being persecuted for their religious beliefs.

"It's a great day for Texas justice. This was the right decision," said Julie Balovich, a Legal Aid attorney for some of the parents. She was joined by several smiling mothers who declined to comment at a news conference outside the courthouse.

Sect elder Willie Jessop said the parents were elated, but added: "There will be no celebrations until some little children are getting hugs from their parents." He said his faith in the legal system will be restored "when I see the schoolyard full of children."

Every child at the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado was taken into custody more than six weeks ago after someone called a hot line claiming to be a pregnant, abused teenage wife. The girl has not been found and authorities are investigating whether the calls were a hoax.

Child-protection officials argued that five girls at the ranch had become pregnant at 15 and 16 and that the sect pushed underage girls into marriage and sex with older men and groomed boys to enter into such unions when they grew up.

But the appeals court said the state acted too hastily in sweeping up all the children and taking them away on an emergency basis without going to court first.

"Even if one views the FLDS belief system as creating a danger of sexual abuse by grooming boys to be perpetrators of sexual abuse and raising girls to be victims of sexual abuse ... there is no evidence that this danger is 'immediate' or 'urgent'," the court said.

"Evidence that children raised in this particular environment may someday have their physical health and safety threatened is not evidence that the danger is imminent enough to warrant invoking the extreme measure of immediate removal."

The court said the state failed to show that any more than five of the teenage girls were being sexually abused, and offered no evidence of sexual or physical abuse against the other children. Half the youngsters taken from the ranch were 5 or younger. Only a few dozen are teenage girls.

The court also said the state was wrong to consider the entire ranch as a single household and to seize all the children on the grounds that some parents in the home might be abusers.

CPS spokesman Patrick Crimmins said department attorneys had not decided whether to appeal. "We are trying to assess the impact that this may have on our case," he said.

CPS's umbrella agency, the Department of Family and Protective Services, issued a statement defending the raid, saying it removed the children "after finding a pervasive pattern of sexual abuse that puts every child at the ranch at risk."

"Child Protective Services has one duty _ to protect children. When we see evidence that children have been sexually abused and remain at risk of further abuse, we will act," the department said.

The decision technically applies to only 38 of the roughly 200 parents who challenged the seizure. But Balovich said she expected attorneys for all the other parents to seek to join the ruling.

Balovich said the court "has stood up for the legal rights of these families and given these mothers hope that their families will be brought back together."

Of the 31 people the state initially said were underage mothers, 15 have been reclassified as adults, and one is 27.

Five judges in San Angelo, about 40 miles north of Eldorado, have been holding hearings on what the parents must do to regain custody. Those hearings, which began Monday, were suspended after the ruling Thursday.

The custody case has been chaotic from the beginning. During the first round of hearings, held two weeks after the April 3 raid, hundreds of lawyers crammed into a courtroom and nearby auditorium, queuing up to voice objections or ask questions on behalf of the mothers who were there in their trademark prairie dresses and braided hair.

CPS has struggled for weeks to establish the identities of the children and sort out their tangled family relationships. The youngsters are in foster homes all over the sprawling state, with some brothers or sisters separated by as much as 600 miles.

 
 

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- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

Nationally, Texas ranks 47th in spending on child protection, and has had a pretty horrifying series of events related to child protection in the last 5 years.

Interesting factoid: Marleigh Meisner, spokeswoman for Texas CPS, not only was in charge of the FLDS children, but also the Branch Davidian children taken into custody from Waco.

WIKIPEDIA
... A 2004 report by Texas Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn was very critical of the Texas foster care system... The Comptroller stated that in fiscal 2003, 2004 and 2005, respectively 30, 38 and 48 foster children died in the state's care. The number of foster children in the state's care increased 24 percent to 32,474 in Fiscal 2005, while the number of deaths increased 60 percent. Compared to the general population, a child is four times more likely to die in the Texas foster care system. In 2004, about 100 children were treated for poisoning from medications; 63 were treated for rape that occurred while under state care including four-year old twin boys, and 142 children gave birth. A 12-year-old boy died in December 2005, suffocated while being restrained from behind by an employee of the facility. Another died May 30, after drowning in a creek during a bicycle outing. A three-year old was treated for poisoning from an atypical, mind-altering anti-psychotic drug.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Department_of_Family_and_Protective_Services

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

Read EUGENE VOLKH's piece on the appellate court's decision. On Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eugene-volokh/texas-appellate-court-rul_b_103124.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 05/23/2008
- vmonter See Profile I'm a Fan of vmonter permalink

They got some sweet hairdoos

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink
Moderator's Pick

HuffPost's Pick

Costs to-date to the State of Texas:

Department of Family and Protective Services $2,174,302
Health and Human Services Commission $1,045,656
Department of Public Safety $970,000
Department of State Health Services $930,563
Other state agencies $191,828
Total state agency costs $5,312,349

Volunteer organization costs
Salvation Army $51,302
Other $8,251
Total volunteer organization costs $59,553

Vendor costs
Bus costs $633,736
Baptist Child & Family Services $527,236
Wells Fargo Pavilion $10,100
Total vendor costs $1,171,072

City and county government costs
City of San Angelo $820,000
Tom Green County Not available
Schleicher County $81,607
Other $42,727
Total city, county government costs $944,334

TOTAL ESTIMATED COSTS $7,487,308
Source: Governor's Division of Emergency Management preliminary, unaudited estimates
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/05/16/0516eldoradocosts.html

Some Texas state legislators would like to charge the FLDS for these costs.
Wonder how much of this goes to privatized operations like CPS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/23/2008
- vmonter See Profile I'm a Fan of vmonter permalink

GOP has no fear. China will pick up the bill yet again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- Marrob See Profile I'm a Fan of Marrob permalink

Yeah, how dare Texas!!!! 13 year old girls having sex with older men and having babies, the nerve!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/23/2008
- LeonBNJ See Profile I'm a Fan of LeonBNJ permalink

Would it be possible that upon the return of the children and families to the FLDS compound that some kind of frequent on-site supervision and monitoring be done to protect all parties?
This compound's connection to a leader facing serious sexual criminal charges and the allegations of multiple partners marriages which are against the law did present an elevated risk that triggered the Texas CPS actions. Then too you had the Waco matter where action didn't happen soon enough to prevent that disaster. It's is too bad the CPS didn't narrow down to the situations and persons most at risk, at most a couple of dozen families, and deal with them. Now they got many in the conservitive religious community upset and indeed they may have violated civil rights and religious rights laws. I suspect any week now massive lawsuits in Federal court vs. the State of Texas for their actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 05/23/2008
- bujeeboo See Profile I'm a Fan of bujeeboo permalink

I heard this morning that there are a few children have claimed abuse of some sort, but because this case was prosecuted as the entire group, the entire case had to be thrown out when it was found to be without merit. Texas CPS will no doubt still pursue individual cases and not necessarily be returning all children back. I was glad to hear it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/23/2008
- JonasH See Profile I'm a Fan of JonasH permalink

It's heartening to see that religion and the american way of life is intertwined. Separation of church and state, never!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/23/2008
- meltcober See Profile I'm a Fan of meltcober permalink

Though I am no fan of this sect - the state of Texas was absolutely wrong in how they handled this situation. Obviously, if there is clear evidence of abuse, those directly involved must be proscecuted and the child involved must be protected. But this clearly needs to be handled on a case-by-case basis. To wholesale remove 400 kids from their parents based on suspicon or innudendo and without hard evidence reminds me of the worst totalitarian practices of the Nazis or the Soviets. We have a Bill or Rights in this country that protects individuals from those heavy-handed tactics. And yes, the Bill of Rights protects even those with bad hair or different religous practices.

I hope the higher courts in Texas affirm this decision, and if not, I hope the Federal courts will have the opportunity to remind the "great" state of Texas that the U.S. Constitution isn't just a piece of parchment, and oh yes, Texas actually ISN'T its own country - despite the over-the-top state nationalism that pervades there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/23/2008
- Economike See Profile I'm a Fan of Economike permalink

Why do they all look like the Andrew Sisters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 05/23/2008
- ishmael See Profile I'm a Fan of ishmael permalink

Why didn't they remove the men instead of the women and children, and then sort it all out? However unhealthy and potentially unlawful this situation may have been, at least some of these children were no doubt traumatized by the intervention itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/23/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango permalink

Which is why Child Protective Services has an impossible job. Damn if they do, Damn if they don't.

Here in Colorado there were recent stories about 6 or 7 children who died from abuse not caught by authorities.

I know nothing about Texas CPS but would bet they are underfunded and over worked. The Republicans refuse to give them the resources they need, and then are the first to slam them.Want to bet the problem begins in the Governors office?

P.S. Where are all the wackos who were outraged about the Branch Davidians and Waco? Seems like an identical situation. Except the FLDS didn't use guns. Were those people only defending the rights of Branch Davidians to shoot Federal officers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

Marleigh Meisner, spokeswoman for Texas Child Protective Services, who is in charge of handling the FLDS children, was also in charge of the Branch Davidian children taken at Waco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 05/23/2008
- TimmySlagle See Profile I'm a Fan of TimmySlagle permalink

" Where are all the wackos who were outraged about the Branch Davidians and Waco"

Still here. Still outraged.

The difference is, that in the Waco case, the BATF came in with guns blazing. You should read up on the story a little. You might be surprised to learn that you don't know as much about the Branch Davidian raid as you think you do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 05/23/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango permalink

As I recall there were allegations of child sexual abuse. From the Australian Ambassador.

And they had a lawful warrant.

Is it your position that authorities shouldn't serve warrants? it is my understanding that serving warrants is not optional.

But where is your outrage over what the state of Texas has done?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/23/2008
- whatsmyname See Profile I'm a Fan of whatsmyname permalink

TIMMYSLAGLE....THAK YOU YOU GET THE GOLD STAR FOR TRUTH TODAY.....TEXAS, AND ITS MYSTERIOUS PHONE CALLS IN THE NIGHT --STOMPING ON EVERYONES RIGHTS SO READILY, ARROGANTLY, THAT THEY GET THE RED STAR ON THEIR FLAG... WE KNOW THEY WILL WEAR IT PROUD.... STILL HAVEN'T MOVED A MUSCLE TO GET THE KIDS OUT OF THOSE GOD-FORSAKEN FOSTER FACILITIES (they're NOT homes) !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 05/23/2008
- Gasparilla See Profile I'm a Fan of Gasparilla permalink

Wrong. They were serving a warrant. The Davidians chose armed resistance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/23/2008
- primordialsoup See Profile I'm a Fan of primordialsoup permalink

You, being from CO should know that Social Services is far from noble in all they do. In some areas, at least, they are actually given incentive to place children in foster care. They are given bonus money if they do. That doesn't sound like they always have the child's best interest in mind. I personally know of two cases where children were permanently taken from their biological parents and given to foster care. The circumstances in these cases were far from destructive or abusive to the children. I suggest you do some research on how Social Services really operates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 05/23/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango permalink

And 6 or 7 cases where the children are dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/23/2008
- Gasparilla See Profile I'm a Fan of Gasparilla permalink

We have nothing more than your claim of what you "personally know"'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 05/23/2008
- poisonpen2u See Profile I'm a Fan of poisonpen2u permalink

I rarely post but this entire situation is bothersome. The fact many feel these girls are 'forced to marry geezers' is puzzling. How about that gross Hugh Hefner in the pj's with all those Playmates? Maybe some women like geezers. Point being: If these sect-raised girls believe it is 'normal' then it's normal for them. The sect is following the Bible in their beliefs about marriage and I believe it is wrought with tales of multiple wives. (Plus what about that deal where the handmaiden was 'forced' to have Abraham's child for his barren wife?)
An underage girl gets pregnant in Texas every 10 minutes according to stats and I don't see the state prosecuting those cases with charges of statuatory rape. I also read the age of consent was 16 in Texas until two years ago which means many of these girls were able to consent on their own. I totally agree with the post about the fundamentalist being behind this. (Google the Governor and you can easily see why he did not intervene.) It was a Constitutional travesty IMO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

I don't intend to make light of forced arranged marriages for underaged girls. It's immoral and illegal and the FLDS has got to stop, regardless of what their prophets and doctrine say. BUT, every time I read comments on these FLDS threads that use the phrases, "filthy old man," or "dirty old geezer," I have the same mental association. Hugh Hefner and his living Barbie dolls. I wonder how many underaged girls looking for glamour and fame end up at the Playboy Mansion? But that's mainstream sexual brainwashing, isn't it? We can live with that--I guess.

From US DHHS CDC (Does that say anything about our messed up culture and its attitudes toward pregnancy? CDS = Center for Disease Control and Prevention. ) About one-third of girls in the United States get pregnant before age 20. In 2006, a total of 435,427 infants were born to mothers aged 15"19 years, a birth rate of 41.9 live births per 1,000 women in this age group. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/AdolescentReproHealth/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/23/2008
- DixieMelody See Profile I'm a Fan of DixieMelody permalink

Poison, you write ". . . many of these girls were able to consent on their own."

"Consent" has nothing to do with these marriages, at least not on the part of the girls involved.

They are chattel, offered up by their biological fathers to The Prophet in marriage to whomever he has chosen (on God's direct instructions to him).

What girl at age 14, 15, 16. . . or any age would "consent" to marry a man in his 50s, 60s and even up to his 90s in the case of Rulon Jeffs, if she felt she had any other choice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/23/2008
- Gasparilla See Profile I'm a Fan of Gasparilla permalink

The bible takes precedence over the law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

It's always a dilemma for religious people: follow the law of the land or of God. Don't think that's ever going to change. Some people would rather face imprisonment, torture and death than give up their faith, and you don't have to look at history books to find examples of religious martyrdom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/24/2008
- majorteddy See Profile I'm a Fan of majorteddy permalink

I think this all is just funnier than hell. The Republicans are always criticizing the government and social service agencies for running their nose into people's business. They are always reducing everything to thirty second soundbites or less and ripping any government intervention in family life and education as "Democrat Big Government". Now here you have a very messy situation where the state has stepped in, perhaps without proper or probable cause and taken over 400 children from their parents. maybe there was a lot of questionable stuff going on , but it won't be over for a long time and is going to prove messy. So Rick Perry, the Republican governor has stepped in the doggie doo and is tracking it all over the floor. Does anyone feel sorry for him and the other Republicans involved in this mess. No! One questionable note is that the Baptist Church national organization has been trying for years to go into Mormon areas and recruit Mormons to "real Christianity". Note that when the buses came to get these kids and women from theYFZ ranch, they said Baptist church on the side. Now , I know that this Fundamentalist Mormon sect is not the same as the members of the Church of Latter Day Saints, but this brings up a point---Was this raid inspired or precipitated by the actions of the Baptists? Was the phone call actually from the Baptists, and not from inside the compound?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/23/2008
- hoopesaz See Profile I'm a Fan of hoopesaz permalink

I've wondered the same thing. When I saw the baptist preachers saying what a blessing it was, and how they had been praying for an opportunity to preach to these people in the name of Christ, chills went down my spine.

I don't have any proof that they did anything, but the circumstances certainly were coincidental at best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/23/2008
- Trueheart See Profile I'm a Fan of Trueheart permalink

There's nothing funny about this. Maybe you meant to say "ironic"? You're not the first person to bring up questions about what is really going on politically with regard to the FLDS, other fundamentalist religious groups, and the government of Texas. I'm not from that part of the country, but it does seem that the taking of almost 500 children was an extreme measure motivated by a lot more than responding to an emergency abuse call--which turned out to be phony. It would be interesting to hear from people who could discuss this issue without veering off the rails into Rantsville.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 05/23/2008
- philinmedford See Profile I'm a Fan of philinmedford permalink

Sorry, but I don't see this as a Republican or Democrat issue. That's where I think you are wrong. This type of action, which I see as abhorrent, is in ALL government. I think it comes down to who really is in charge of things, and that's the legal community. THEY are the only ones that benefit. When this whole thing went down, they had something like 400+ lawyers who rushed to the scene "smelling blood" (and a big payday) We need to quit blaming the party in charge and take our country back from the people who are really in charge. Do you really think that the "blame game" that goes back and forth between Dems and Repub's will change the fundamental problem? For example, both parties will continue to vote themselves raises and work less and less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 05/23/2008