CNN: Clinton Camp Pushing For Compromise In Formal Talks

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First Posted: 05-23-08 09:53 AM   |   Updated: 05-31-08 05:12 AM

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The punditry is abuzz after a report on CNN this morning that Clinton and Obama have held formal talks about her exit from the race, with Clinton outlining three possible scenarios. Bloomberg reports:

The two Democratic campaigns are talking about ways for Clinton, from New York, to drop her bid for president that may include joining the Illinois senator's ticket, CNN reported. Talks are in a "very preliminary" stage and are described as "difficult,'" the network said.

However, the revelation from CNN cites only anonymous sources. And an interview with David Axelrod on Thursday claimed that talks had not begun between the campaigns:

The chief strategist for the Obama campaign, David Axelrod, said Thursday that no overtures had been made by Mr. Clinton or any prominent supporters to place Mrs. Clinton on the ticket.


"There have been no contacts between the campaigns, and no one is looking for a deal of any kind," Mr. Axelrod said in an interview. "She's running for the nomination for president, as we are. We're focusing on closing out the nominating fight. We'll deal with vice presidential questions in sequence."

Talking Points Memo suggests that even if the report is overstating conversations between the campaigns, the disclosure of Clinton-Obama talks is significant:

On first blush I'm skeptical that there really are "formal talks" in the usual sense of that phrase. The report appears to lean heavily on sourcing from within the Clinton camp, which is notable. The significance here may not be that there are formal talks underway or that the vice presidency is under discussion. The real significance may be that this is the opening salvo from the Clinton camp ahead of the negotiations that would likely accompany her withdrawal from the race.

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Several Clinton supporters, including Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein, have been pushing for Clinton to join an Obama ticket.

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UPDATE: Suzanne Malveaux, the CNN correspondent who originally reported the talks, appeared on CNN to walk back her initial report slightly. She now suggests the talks between the camps are informal (as opposed to formal), and are primarily motivated by Clinton supporters. She still stands by the claim that the camps are in communication about a possible endgame. Take the distinction for what you will.

UPDATE: Well, if these talks are in fact taking place, then neither camp is fessing up about it. Greg Sargent reports on Election Central:

Well, I've just spoken to both campaigns about this. And their denials couldn't be more adamant.


Here's what Hillary spokesperson Howard Wolfson sent me:

1) There have been no discussions with the Obama campaign
2) The only scenario being discussed by this campaign is Senator Clinton's nomination as President
3) The report is 100% false

And here is what Obama spokesperson Bill Burton said:

"This is something that I agree with Howard on 100%."

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- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Perhaps he could create a new cabinet post overseeing women's issues. She could work with Michele on this.

When she turns her nose up at that, we'll know how sincere she is about the rights of OTHER women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 05/23/2008
- dhfsfc I'm a Fan of dhfsfc 6 fans permalink

These ideas are being floated by people associated with Hillary, including, possibly, Bill. The consultants don't want to lose everything. They want some continuing influence, and employment. The big donors are watching their money walk away if she gets nothing but if she is V.P. they still get the access they thought they were paying for. And Bill is a realist, He doesn't want to walk away with a cloud over the Clinton name.

So when Hillary says this is not something she is contemplating, she may be telling the truth. But people close to her are getting into the life-boats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/23/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

Hillary "NO WE WON'T"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/23/2008

Here's my suggestion for an exit strategy: Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/23/2008
- brizzle I'm a Fan of brizzle 3 fans permalink

Obama/Rendell. That's the ticket, yeah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/23/2008

Telling Hillary Clinton to withdraw from the race is like telling Rosa Parks to step to the back of the bus. HILLARY CLINTON WILL NOT, I REPEAT NOT STEP TO THE BACK OF THE BUS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/23/2008
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Oh, you posted this twice.

You are a troll so now I will ignore you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 05/23/2008
- HerbTee I'm a Fan of HerbTee 86 fans permalink
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Brizzle, I live in Chester County, PA, about 50 miles south of Philadelphia. I must give an absolute "NO WAY" to PA Governor Ed "Fast Eddie" Rendell as VP for Obama. Not only is Fast Eddie a solid Clinton operative, but publicly spoke ill racially of Obama's chances here prior to the PA primary. He has almost all PA city mayors in his pocket, including AA Philly mayor Michael Nutter. Senator Bob Casey of PA was the only man with the guts to support and tour PA with Obama in the rural areas. Almost all major PA politicians except Bob Casey turned their backs on Obama prior to the PA primary...­all of them lead by Clinton and Fast Eddie.

Another point: If you recall, Obama was roundly criticized by HRC in a debate to denounce and repudiate Minister Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam. Well, lo and behold, Minister Farrakhan was a guest speaker at a large Philly AA religious event where Fast Eddie himself attended as the mayor of Philly in 1997. There was Fast Eddie, singing the praises of Minister Farrakhan at the event. Ironically, Fast Eddie is Jewish!! Don't believe me? Then check this out:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxz8AEXbjjg&feature=related

Yet, this event was not mentioned and well hidden from the MSM prior to the PA primary. For Fast Eddie and HRC, the word HYPOCRITE comes to mind! Fast Eddie leaves me cold...a definite "NO" to him as Obama's VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 05/23/2008
- HerbTee I'm a Fan of HerbTee 86 fans permalink
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Sorry folks, my link doesn't work. Please try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxz8AEXbjjg&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/23/2008

I think it would be a disaster to put Bill and Hillary on Obama's the ticket. They have thier own agenda and he is a candidate of change. This is what this campaign has been about, change and getting rid of the good old boys politics. That would also unite the McSame ticket they would all come out to vote against the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 05/23/2008
- 1PALady I'm a Fan of 1PALady 2 fans permalink
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I think the Clintons are going to be in for a rude awakening when Obama shows up being his own man and not putting her sorry behind on the ticket.

Hillary - I don't think he's a Muslim.

Put her on the ticket, I don't think so. She can't be trusted!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/23/2008

My prediction is that she puts out the idea that she isn't really that interested in the VP slot, Obama offers it as a courtesy and then she surprises him and accepts it. Basically the same thing that happened with Kennedy and Johnson.

Who knows, maybe it will untimately be a good thing to have her on the ticket.

She and her husband still have a lot of clout in the party (despite everything) and maybe she could help put him over the top. She certainly would be good at the typical VP attack-dog role. I'm not her biggest fan by any measure but the girl knows how to fight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 05/23/2008
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Fighting is the problem with politics and the mindset of the country right now. All her presence would do is ensure that Republicans who would rather stay home than vote for McCain, will be spurred to the polls to vote against Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 05/23/2008
- Sioen I'm a Fan of Sioen 17 fans permalink
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And that's exactly what the Obama campaign (and lots of us supporters) do not want. We don't want that tired old divisive nonsense.

I don't want a politics that's about tearing at your enemy with your teeth. If I did, I would have voted for Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/23/2008

I think Obama and his advisors are smart enough to know better. I don't think he'll give in to all this political blackmail. Unless he really believes she would be the right VP and I can't imagine that to be the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 05/23/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

When the Obama camp takes the likely nominees for VP, including Hillary, I would be very curious to see what the polling shows them.
In the end it seems to me she would be more of a liability, but that is just my opinion, certainly not fact.
He will not be making this decision publicly for a good long while, but it sure is fun to speculate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/23/2008
- gr8abz I'm a Fan of gr8abz 4 fans permalink

I am a strong Obama supporter. My biggest beef with the Hillary has been her horrendous approach to Obama during the campaign. However (aside her unforgivable Iraqi war vote -- and yes that is a big one) her voting record (see League Of Conservation Voters)on everything else in the Senate has been excellent. I also liked the way she went after General Patraeus during his recent report to congress. She made it clear that Bin Laden is in not In Iraq but in Afhganistan and the Pakistan border region and we should get the hell out of Iraq. I know, I know -- she should have thought of that five years ago -- I agree. Still I think she'd be a damn good President. AND I AM NO TROLL for saying that so don't even try that one on me! Again I LUV OBAMA.-- I believe he has greatness and I am rooting for him and want Hillary to call it quits! But I think she'd make a great VP. I know many will disagree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/23/2008
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 122 fans permalink
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Sorry... but you said that you like some of the things Clinton has done... to most of the Obamagelicals here you are now a troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 05/23/2008
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how sad that this is very true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/23/2008
- sanywhere I'm a Fan of sanywhere 2 fans permalink
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you underestimate us. i don't like her very much; but, i am glad that gr8abz is on board with obama. i don't think gr8 is a troll. i would not like hillary as a veep though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/23/2008
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i suspect that you are a limbaugh junkie, you seem to just like to create dissension­... nothing constructive or objective - just anger - go to your happy place, it may help - haters aren't pretty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/23/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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Don't be dumb. Your comment is partly why some people think we are a cult. If someone says something positive about Hillary, they get pasted as if they just committed murder. Or if someone dares to question something Obama has done or offers the slightest criticism, the same. This is the Democratic party, in case you have forgotten it, where people are supposed to listen to differing opinions without going ballistic. Chill out.

Obama/Not Hillary '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 05/23/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

Your post has merit. I dont see any trolliness to it.
As far as her making a good VP, all we can do is speculate just as we hope Obama will make a great President but we really dont know.
Only time will tell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 05/23/2008

Obama needs someone who is in favor of his agenda not opposed to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/23/2008

She's not opposed to his agenda. A slight difference on their health care proposals is the only difference in their respective policies. That's why this campaign has come down to style and personality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/23/2008

I used to agree that she'd be a good President. I know she was a decent Senator. But after this campaign, it's hard to see how the Republican oppo machine wouldn't take every opportunity to derail an Obama/Clinton ticket using her own campaign words and her past with the Rove crowd. If Obama and Co. really see her potential to unite overcoming those problems, then .... Well, I'll vote for the Dem ticket no matter what. But I think they would end up with more negatives than positives. It's going to be difficult at this point no matter who they choose because of this huge division. Seems like it would be much more helpful for Sen. Clinton to be given a cabinet position and have her out there in the months before November campaigning hard for Sen. Obama in order to realize that position. Of course, it would be hard to find a position that she would consider worthwhile after losing the option of the Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/23/2008
- Dalpine I'm a Fan of Dalpine 6 fans permalink

Hillary holding her supporters hostage for the VP spot is probably Rove's idea. McCain can't win without Hillary on the Democratic ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/23/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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That's possible. I do think Hillary's Comparison Speech---where she compared her struggle to the Civil Right's Movement, Women's Sufferage, etc.,---so­unds like Rove. Add to those the Zimbabwe thing and Bush vs. Gore thing and she had appealed to every type of person in America---black, white, rich, poor, and everyone inbetween, which also sounds like Rove. Hillary was trying to get them all behind her to fight...he­r own party. Hoping to bully her way, with the masses behind her, to the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/23/2008

Picking the "Dragon Lady" as a running mate would be a huge mistake and would confirm the allegation that Obama is a typical politician. No he shouldn't!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/23/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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True, but the other side is that if he doesn't, Hillary will be on every talk show in the land accusing him of not trying to unite the party...af­ter her 'epic struggle'. Of turning down her 'hand of friendship' and scoffing at her own attempts to unify the party. I can hear her now---her and countless surrogates. Like Lanny Davis...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/23/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

Sometimes I wish I could remove Lanny Davis' tongue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/23/2008
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So basically - Pick me or I'll burn this mother down!!

Obama won't fall for it.

If she wanted a spot she should have run a respectful campaign.
You cant pee on people and then expect them to embrace you.

I strongly doubt that and African Americans will ever vote Hillary again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/23/2008
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And if she does that, she will be laughed out of town and out of the Senate. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that it is Hillary who is not uniting the Democratic party. Obama has gone overboard on being polite and courteous to Hillary. Personally, I'd like to see him deck her, but I do admire his restraint.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/23/2008

Hillary is setting this all up so that should Obama win, he would be seen as having won the Presidential nomination by illegitimate means.

Just as had occurred with Bush 2, Hillary seems to be orchestrating a similar scenario if Obama wins -- demonstrations at Obama's Inaugural, constant turmoil within the Congress, antagonism towards him from within his own Party, chaos, so that the way is clear for her to run easily against her own Party head in 2012. And the weakling Democratic leaders and wishy-washy delegates still uncommitted can't seem to grasp this basic fact. Wil there even be a semblance of a Democratic Party in four years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/23/2008
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Enough with the conspiracy theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/23/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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Not all conspiracy theories are false.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/23/2008

Bush hasn't taught you to respect conspiracies yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/23/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

I think you are correct.

So on May 31 the DNC must seat FL and MI in some ways acceptable to those states (NOT 100% of MI to Hillary nobody in their right mind thinks that's fair). They MUST punish someone, so should punish the individuals who voted to break the rules. Strip them of their status in the party forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

My guess is Hillary has been positioning herself for the VP spot on the ticket. If she keeps the race going until the convention there isnt a snowballs chance in hel l that she could ever win the democratic nomination in 2012 or any other year, because the likely scenario is Obama will lose the general if he doesnt start campaigning in earnest against Mccain soon. She would be viewed as the cause for his loss. And her standing in the party would be greatly diminished. Which leads me to believe she is trying to use,, more or less, strong-arm tactics to make him choose her as his running mate. It is possible she is negotiating for some other top appointment.
I hope so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 05/23/2008
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There is much to consider. Yesterday, Obama addressed a quesstion about placing a rival on the ticket even if that rival had a spouse that was a "pain in the butt." His response was interesting, citing the team of rivals used by Lincoln. There is precedent for putting Clinton on the ticket, the Clintons weathered the storm and impeachment. They survived the Republican onslaught and Bill Clinton had a high approval rating on leaving office.

If there is any truth to the October surprise rumors and to counteract the Wright controversy, Obama may need a dogged campaigner and old campaign war horse like Bill Clinton. He is a hugely popular figure among the working class, Jewish and Hispanics, he can actually be an asset to the ticket. He may be an albatross but hes a likable albatross. I am seeing an inevitability here.

I believe Hillary Clinton will be offered the spot first and she will take it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 60 fans permalink
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Where was this speech that Obama answered the question that you site?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/23/2008
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It was on CNN a while ago, I'm not wild about HRC's behavior, I m an independent but will vote for Obama. One has to look at the reality of the politics of it though. Its a rough and dirty business, HRC knows how dirty it is better and YES she does fight very dirty. But the Clinton support base is strong and they are fiercely loyal. They are a force to contend with. Obama will be making history if he puts her on his ticket in more ways than one. If his is to be a transformational presidency then putting a woman--the most visible woman on the ticket--is the best way to achieve it.

The Clintons have survived the Republican attack machine, and believe me, they are coming.

OBAMA/CLINTON 08

from an OBAMA supporter.­..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/23/2008
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Because it really worked for them, huh? If they couldn't take out an unknown black senator - what makes you think they are a plus for him, they have gone out of their way to destroy him? He has plenty of loyal allies that will help him - he does not need their ugly old way of politicking - that is exactly what he wants to change - NOT perpetuate. Wright is minor compared to what will be dredged up with the Clinton skeletons that are shaking as we speaking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/23/2008
- 1PALady I'm a Fan of 1PALady 2 fans permalink
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I certainly hope she isn't offered and if so, I hope she does not accept. I've had enough of this woman to last me a life time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/23/2008
- Flagal I'm a Fan of Flagal 7 fans permalink

She will accept. It is the second most powerful position in America, and obviously Hillary has a insatiable lust for power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/23/2008
- on2them I'm a Fan of on2them 23 fans permalink
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Just wondering how you think with Clinton on the ticket they could avoid the Republicans constant loop of Hillary saying John McCain is more capable of CIC and Obama has just a speech or the countless other verbal slamming she has said that would be obvious ammunition for the RNC. Do you think she could just say..."nev­er mind"? Just curious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 05/23/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

That is not how to pick a running mate!

The vice president may become president without another election. It is Obama's obligation to choose someone who would be the best president to replace him.

It isn't a consolation prize or a reward for having stuck out impeachment a high approval rating.

This is more than a game, it's our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 05/23/2008
- DB55 I'm a Fan of DB55 5 fans permalink

The vitriol of my fellow Obama supporters towards Hillary is understandable given the campaign she has run (and is still running). But Obama is running as a uniter; shouldn't he start with uniting the Democratic party? Hillary as veep would be problematic in many ways (Bill being the biggest problem) but it would probably be better to have them in the tent than out of it. And I do think that the energy and enthusiasm of the Clinton supporters will be essential in the GE.

At any rate, Obama should make his choice based on who would give him the best chance of defeating John McCain - and if he comes to the conclusion that it's Hillary, that's who he should pick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 05/23/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 27 fans permalink

Hillary supporters have said time and time again they won't vote for Obama even if clinton was on the ticket so what is the advantage of having her on the ticket if it's not going to bring more voters in? None that I can see.

HER SUPPORTERS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.....­SO NO NEED FOR HILLARY TO BE ON THE TICKET.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/23/2008
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Only a portion of her supports have said such, and if they really want McCain over Hillary, they're idiots in that.

So please don't paint all of us Clinton supporters with your grossly false brush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/23/2008

This sounds suspiciously like an argument that HRC would make to justify her nomination. This election is about change, and the greatest change that this country needs is the restoration of integrity
and dignity to the Oval Office. To collaborate with the Clintons for the sake of winning would result in a very hollow victory indeed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 05/23/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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I agree, and I just did a post on this, above---only mine was about how Hillary will accuse him of not caring about unifying the party, if he doesn't reach out to her...with the VP or some other high post. Her and Bill are masters at turning things back on their opponents. It's part of what lawyers do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/23/2008
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