CNN: Clinton Camp Pushing For Compromise In Formal Talks

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First Posted: 05-23-08 09:53 AM   |   Updated: 05-31-08 05:12 AM

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The punditry is abuzz after a report on CNN this morning that Clinton and Obama have held formal talks about her exit from the race, with Clinton outlining three possible scenarios. Bloomberg reports:

The two Democratic campaigns are talking about ways for Clinton, from New York, to drop her bid for president that may include joining the Illinois senator's ticket, CNN reported. Talks are in a "very preliminary" stage and are described as "difficult,'" the network said.

However, the revelation from CNN cites only anonymous sources. And an interview with David Axelrod on Thursday claimed that talks had not begun between the campaigns:

The chief strategist for the Obama campaign, David Axelrod, said Thursday that no overtures had been made by Mr. Clinton or any prominent supporters to place Mrs. Clinton on the ticket.


"There have been no contacts between the campaigns, and no one is looking for a deal of any kind," Mr. Axelrod said in an interview. "She's running for the nomination for president, as we are. We're focusing on closing out the nominating fight. We'll deal with vice presidential questions in sequence."

Talking Points Memo suggests that even if the report is overstating conversations between the campaigns, the disclosure of Clinton-Obama talks is significant:

On first blush I'm skeptical that there really are "formal talks" in the usual sense of that phrase. The report appears to lean heavily on sourcing from within the Clinton camp, which is notable. The significance here may not be that there are formal talks underway or that the vice presidency is under discussion. The real significance may be that this is the opening salvo from the Clinton camp ahead of the negotiations that would likely accompany her withdrawal from the race.

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Several Clinton supporters, including Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein, have been pushing for Clinton to join an Obama ticket.

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UPDATE: Suzanne Malveaux, the CNN correspondent who originally reported the talks, appeared on CNN to walk back her initial report slightly. She now suggests the talks between the camps are informal (as opposed to formal), and are primarily motivated by Clinton supporters. She still stands by the claim that the camps are in communication about a possible endgame. Take the distinction for what you will.

UPDATE: Well, if these talks are in fact taking place, then neither camp is fessing up about it. Greg Sargent reports on Election Central:

Well, I've just spoken to both campaigns about this. And their denials couldn't be more adamant.


Here's what Hillary spokesperson Howard Wolfson sent me:

1) There have been no discussions with the Obama campaign
2) The only scenario being discussed by this campaign is Senator Clinton's nomination as President
3) The report is 100% false

And here is what Obama spokesperson Bill Burton said:

"This is something that I agree with Howard on 100%."

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- gditty I'm a Fan of gditty 29 fans permalink
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They're playing both sides just in case the DNC committee doesn't rule in their favor on the 31st.

1.Actively denying their own campaign rumors to not appear to be in a weak postition to compromise.

2.Keeps the campaign going, thus money coming in to pay the bills (debts) while claiming they still have a shot at POTUS.

3.Gives the media talking points and forcing the Obama campaign to answer countless questions about it, if he refuses to answer it makes Obama appear not willing to make peace within the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 05/23/2008
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CNN = CLEARLY NONSENSE NEWS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 05/23/2008
- McPander I'm a Fan of McPander 4 fans permalink

I have to start to agree with Fox News at this point ....Clinto­n News Network

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 05/23/2008
- Krikkit I'm a Fan of Krikkit 14 fans permalink

How did a story go from "negotiations by Clinton backers" become "formal talks between campaigns" ?

I just read the CNN story. They say some of her backers are exploring three exit strategies, not the campaign and not the candidates in formal discussions. Bloomberg did a disservice.

For the sake of clarity, the three options these backers are exploring are a vp slot, the offer of a vp slot that Hillary first agrees to decline, and a scenario where Obama does not even offer the slot. They discuss the advantages for Hillary being on the ticket, the impossibility of a negotiated offer and decline of the VP spot due to distrust between the campaigns, and the potential political consequences of ignoring her altogether.

Sounds like another supporters pitch to to the Obama campaign to me and nothing more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- gditty I'm a Fan of gditty 29 fans permalink
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Plant a seed (rumor) watch it grow...ask Obama countless questions about the rumor until he feels compelled to comprise, if he doesn't accuse him of not doing what's best for the party.

Keep repeating and reporting the same rumor until it develops into truths so Hillary can "save face" without appearing weak. While Hillary moves the goalpost (threatening to go to the convention) these backers "her campaign" explores exit strategies knowing the DNC will probably rule in Obama's favor on the 31st.

It's all about Hillary...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/23/2008

I hope this does not happen. HRC has proven that she is not trustworthy. She would drag down Obama's message of change; the Clintons are representatives of the past including more scandal and baggage than a new direction can handle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/23/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

No Silly Name,
I agree 100% the Clinton era is OVER and Sen. Obama should not be boxed in to carrying along the Clinton baggage !!
Please Sen Obama DON'T let them tell you who and how to pick your VicePresident !!
You Sir have earned the right to move on away from the Clinton's and their Slime Machines !!
Obama / Webb 09 Just a Thought !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 05/23/2008
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ABC has been spreading rumors for months. This is just another. The Clinton camp is looking for any kind of traction after wading into quicksand. Obama will let them sink a little deeper until the pretext of them making demands is supplanted by the desire to breathe. Then the hand will come out. But not before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 05/23/2008
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agree, it's the media's way of testing the waters, by floating this turdblossom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/23/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

Please Sen. Obama !!
No Clinton,YOUR CHOICE !!!
Just a Thought OBAMA / WEBB 09

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 05/23/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

Please Barack, don't let them pressure you into taking her as VP........­........sh­e has no respect for you as a candidate or as a person. She has tried to undermine you from start to finish. I don't trust her or Bill at this point. Too many dead bodies in the wake of the CLinton's to not be cautionary.

If you want give her something else, like in Healthcare or something. Just not VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 05/23/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

The last thing Obama needs is the Clintons riding on his back in November. Does his campaign and does the nation really want their politics, finances and peronal lives open for scrutiny? I just want the dishonest, self-interested Clintons to GO AWAY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/23/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

If Obama put Hillary Clinton on the ticket he will qualify himself as one of the biggest hypocrites in history. He cannot claim to be about Change and committed to ending divisive, destructive, corporate-serving politics if he intends to run with the Clintons. They will sufficate and dominate. They mean, dishonest poltiics will rule, and they will undermine Obama to serve the special interests they represent.

I hope Obama has the strength of character, vision, confidence and good judgment to say no to Hillary and move forward with the campaign, administration, consensus building and constructive change he has promised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/23/2008
- Aleka4 I'm a Fan of Aleka4 47 fans permalink

I have no doubt that he realizes this as much as we do, and that he has no intention of taking her.

I don't think the problem is him, I think the problem is that Clinton and her supporters are now, in effect, holding the entire party and the GE hostage in order to try to strongarm it. That is a whole lot of pressure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/23/2008
- soot I'm a Fan of soot 3 fans permalink

If Obama taps Hillary to run the ticket with, can he fire her later? LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 05/23/2008
- soot I'm a Fan of soot 3 fans permalink

Why would Hillary want to serve on the ticket with somebody who hasn't "crossed the threshold?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 05/23/2008
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or "He cannot win, Bill, He cannot win" - no thanks - she is so self-absorbed, there is no room in the room for anyone but her and Bill Clinton -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/23/2008

NO NIGHTMARE TICKET!!!

OBAMA-RICHARDSON '08!!!

Do we want a game changer or a game over??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 05/23/2008
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I agree - game changer - NEW BLOOD in the White House, no more LIARS, Bill Clinton, GWB, Hillary - all proven liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 05/23/2008
- reelcobra I'm a Fan of reelcobra 6 fans permalink

I was a Richardson fan when he was playing semi-pro ball in the Dodgers organization. He'd be a credible VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 05/23/2008

I think so too. I rather liked him when he was running as a candidate, and it would certainly help with the Latino vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 05/23/2008
- JohnnieP I'm a Fan of JohnnieP 4 fans permalink

After Hillary's pathetically-run campaign and the demeaning way she treated Barack from day 1,
HRC deserves no official position in the newly elected Obama administration, whatsoever. The Clin-
ton's don't want occupy the Blair House, they really want to occupy the White House. Obama can
find a much better running mate than backstabber Hillary, anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/23/2008
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amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 05/23/2008

Solely on the grounds you just described, no she doesn't deserve it but the reality is that she will have to be offered something big in both the short term (such as help with her campaign debt) and in the long term (a position of power in the Cabinet, such as Secretary of State or Attorney General) in order for her to agree to not force it all the way to the convention floor, campaign for him (in a positive and constructive way) between now and the general election in order to swing some of her voters his way, and continue her support and provide positive influence (which is still considerable) in his direction for his policies once he is elected.

As a side note, in my opinion, if she forces this all the way to the convention floor and the credential committed, she will have damaged her political reputation and any future bid for President irreparably.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/23/2008

I too think that Hillary, much as many of us are angry with the way she has behaved, has alot of power at the moment. After all, she will have about 40-45% of the pledged delegates at the convention. That counts for something, though, what I don't know. Other than a hope of a place on the Supreme Court, I don't know what Administration position she should be offered where she won't bring things down with her drama and double-dealing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/23/2008

Just bow out, you've lost Hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/23/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Best line of the campaign: Obama tells questioner that he would even use McCain to run homeland security under an Obama presidency if he thought it was best for America. Lol!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/23/2008
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Peggy Noonan is calling Hillary soft, a whiner, a cry baby, and a sissy in her latest column.

My favorite part:

“It is prissy. Mrs. Clinton's supporters are now complaining about the Hillary nutcrackers sold at every airport shop. Boo hoo. If Golda Meir, a woman of not only proclaimed but actual toughness, heard about Golda nutcrackers, she would have bought them by the case and given them away as party favors.”

She is. She hasn’t fought for anything meaningful her entire time in Washington. She claimed she was against NAFTA from the start, but actually held pro-NAFTA meetings. She voted for the war with actually reading the NIE. She voted for the Kyl/Liebermann Amendment, where was the fight at that time?

Yeah, Hillary is tough alright. She is fighting Democratic processes, Tim Russert, some guy with an “Iron My Shirt” sign, mean bloggers, etc etc.

None of those got us into the Iraq though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 05/23/2008
- reelcobra I'm a Fan of reelcobra 6 fans permalink

Hey Tiff,

Need your advice.

Now that we are clearly kicking al Qaeda's ass all over Iraq, and now that the Iraq Army has the Iran thug proxies on the run, how do I keep telling people we need to surrender in a hurrry?

That was easy and popular at Code Pink protests, and Holllywood coctail parties, but normal Americans are starting to notice, and even anti-war Organs of MoveOn like the New York Times are beginning to admit the truth.

How do we keep the magic going, at least until next year's Oscar parties?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 05/23/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

One guy with a sign saying "Iron My Shirt", if he even existed, is evidence of the vast sexist conspriacy that has denied Hillary the nomination to which she is entitled? Could it be that much of the nation has looked at Hillary on her merits, judged her unqualified, dishonest, untrustworthy and dvisive, and rejected her candidacy. Only Hillary the eternal victim would assume bias is involved.

Does Hillary really think the tyrants, dictators, terrorists, shrewd competitors, and opportunists of the world are going to treat her fairly? Will they give her what she wants when she screams "sexism'? Can the nation really afford to put Hillary in the presidency because it would be politcially correct?

Much to his credit, Obama has run on his intellect, character, good judgement, distinctive life and professional experience outside of Washington, vision, and capacity to unite.

Hillary's arrongant campaign has been based on a sense of entitlment, compensation for vicitmization, family ties and lots of lies.

If there is justice in the universe, Hillary will soon be out of the game and out of the stadium. The nation needs to move beyond the Clintons and the Bushes and their mean, divisive politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 05/23/2008
- reelcobra I'm a Fan of reelcobra 6 fans permalink

Imagine a 100% false article on the Huffington Post! Dogs and cats sleeping together!!

Let's get back to something important.

Now is the time to shine on these Devil Preachers!

We Obamaniacs finally have an issue to hit back on.

After being pounded for our guy's associations with religous race baiting bigots, terrorists, and political sleazebags, we have the press seizing on the Hagee thing as though there is equivilance.

We have to stay on message here.

Remember..­.

1.) McCain accepting an endorsement from a religous nut IS THE SAME as Obama's 20 year relationship with a racist church. No difference.

2.) McCain accepting and then rejecting Hagee's support in a matter of months IS THE SAME as Obama's launching of Wright after 20 years.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!!

Go get 'em CNN, Time Mag, CBS, MSNBC, New Republic, et. al.

BHO '08!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 05/23/2008
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“1.) McCain accepting an endorsement from a religous nut IS THE SAME as Obama's 20 year relationship with a racist church. No difference­.”

Actually it is a lot worst. I have heard of that theology from pro-Israel pro-Zionist Christians, so I am not entirely sure why McCain didn’t know where he stood with regard to the Jews returning to Israel after the Holocaust.

Obama seems more sympathetic because he was not out to connect with Rev. Wright out of political maneuvering, but for Christian fellowship. Most Christians, like myself, go to church for worship and fellowship and do not subscribe to all the beliefs of said pastor. You traditiona­l/Christia­n values Republicans should know that.

What McCain did was seek an endorsement from a very powerful Evangelical pastor to win over the religious right. He did this without actually knowing what Hagee’s theology was. See; that’s what mavericks do, right? They maneuver and befriend folks they have no idea about for the sole purpose of winning over a sect of voters.


McCain should have stuck to his secular self and stayed away from the Evangelicals. He doesn’t speak their language and has no idea how to connect with them. Throwing a very powerful Evangelical pastor under the bus isn’t they way to do it. Also, Evangelicals have been voting against McCain in the remaining primaries. He has got a problem. A big one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 05/23/2008
- reelcobra I'm a Fan of reelcobra 6 fans permalink

Okay, just so I am clear...

You are saying the fact that Obama brought his young girls to sit in front of a guy who:

**preaches that their brains are different from the brains of little white girls
**preaches that their own government created a deadly disease (AIDS) to kill them
**preaches that Farrakhan is a great man
**preaches that we had 9/11 coming because of our evil

is less offensive than McCain accepting and then renouncing an endorsement from a guy he has met once or twice?

WOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 05/23/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

you don't sound like a Obama supporter. You sound like a Bush-Clinton era addict to politics as warfare. "finally have an issue to hit back on." We are trying to change the poltics of division and concentrate on ideas, policies, the future of the whole nation, not just red or blue pulrality.

The Reverends issue in both directions is a media hyped distraction from big issues. It serves the Bush-Clint­on-Corpora­te agenda of dividing the nation into warring camps that can never agree on anything. The result is the oil companies, banks, health-care/drug, defense contractors RULE us.

McCain will defeat himself, if you let him, just like Hillary did. No need to match their tactics, that is the old style politics we are trying to get past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 05/23/2008
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