Obama: Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs Responsible For Rise In Hate Crimes Against Hispanics

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First Posted: 05-23-08 03:05 PM   |   Updated: 05-31-08 05:12 AM

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At a fundraiser in Florida Thursday night, Barack Obama accused anti-immigrant crusaders Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh of "ginning things up" to such an extent that there was a rise in hate crimes against Hispanics last year.

"A certain segment has basically been feeding a kind of xenophobia. There's a reason why hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year," Obama said. "If you have people like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh ginning things up, it's not surprising that would happen."

Politico's Jonathan Martin writes that Limbaugh addressed Obama's remarks on his radio show today and said that the remarks hurt his feelings.

"I actually don't believe this. Barack Obama, in my own state, raising money for his presidential campaign called me xenophobic at a fundraiser," Limbaugh said. "I thought this guy was the unity candidate? Calling me a Xenophobe? Responsible for hate crimes? My feelings are hurt here."

Earlier this year, promoting his book "His Panic: Why Americans Fear Hispanics in the U.S.," Geraldo Rivera called Dobbs a "hate-monger" and said "I would not shake his hand because this is a man that's done more damage to the cause of sensible, comprehensive reform than anyone with a microphone."

At a fundraiser in Florida Thursday night, Barack Obama accused anti-immigrant crusaders Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh of "ginning things up" to such an extent that there was a rise in hate crimes again...
At a fundraiser in Florida Thursday night, Barack Obama accused anti-immigrant crusaders Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh of "ginning things up" to such an extent that there was a rise in hate crimes again...
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Go Obama. Lou Dobbs has become a nut obsessed with immigration. As for Rush Limbaugh - he probably emerged from his mother's womb as a right wing crazy. Zealots promoting hatred against any one group are no not needed in this country and when they get access to airwaves and cable television, they engender more hatred and additional harm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

As Dobbs points out all the time, he is NOT against immigration. The US lets in more than one million immigrants legally each year. He and I am opposed to ILLGEAL immigration and drugs coming across our borders to the south in massive quantities. As Kennedy said in a speech that I saw him give in the Senate, the illegals prior to 1986 were running about 40,000/yr and now it is around 500,000/yr. THAT is the problem and the only way to stop that is to secure our borders. All that Dobbs says is that we have to enforce our laws and secure the borders. John Kerry said the same thing in his campaign by the way. To say that is racist as Obama does makes HIM unfit to be President since he feels that he will NOT have to enforce our laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/26/2008

Randy, if you ever bothered to tune into Lou's program...you would realize that Obama was dead on. Lou IS obsessed with the hispanic community and the borders. I agree that we need to secure our borders and prevent the illegal immigration of ALL immigrants...but every episode, every thought, every word is focussed on the hispanic community. His show is biased and racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 05/26/2008
- missusam I'm a Fan of missusam 8 fans permalink
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If the gov't was serious about illegal immigration and drugs, the border would be secured. This just confirms that all these declared wars i.e terrorism, drugs etc are phony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 05/26/2008
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You've obviously never seen Dobbs' horns poke out while he's talking about "illegal immigrants." You've obviously also never taken note of his tone, or that fact that he keeps rehashing the same old tired rhetoric which objectifies human beings and makes them scapegoats for the pitfalls of corporate capitalism.

Why doesn't Lou go after the very structure that has created the problem in the first place? I'll tell you why ... HE'D BE OUT OF A JOB. Don't make excuses for hatred; we're living in time where we need to be awake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

The FACT is that there are more hate crimes against whites than Hispanics according to the stats for 2006. There are THREE TIMES that amount of hate crimes against blacks than against whites. For Hispanics the total is about 800 for 2006 which is a drop in the bucket compared to our population. So it is hard for me to get terribly concerned that Hispanics are experiencing any major problem more than before.
The hate crimes against my grandfather was FAR worse than that reported against Hispanics. He had his business and home BURNED DOWN in 1917 because he had a German name. He didn't even speak German! That was done to tens of thousands of German Americans. In Texas German Americans were tied to the back of wagons and whipped through town, and some were outright murdered! The Texas legislature wanted to make it possible for any Anglo to arrest and imprison any German American for any reason. The law was modified so that only law enforcement officers could do that. German Americans could and were simply arrested for who they were, not for any crime. So I find it rather absurd that given that history that Hispanics have much cause for alarm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 05/26/2008
- missviv I'm a Fan of missviv 8 fans permalink
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so just because your grandfather's business was burned down no one can ever again complain about being racially discriminated against? your argument is so weak it's not even funny...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/27/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 152 fans permalink

Funny, I would read that story as an object lesson on why hate crimes laws are necessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/27/2008
- LawrenceL I'm a Fan of LawrenceL 5 fans permalink

Limbaugh said. "I thought this guy was the unity candidate? Calling me a Xenophobe? Responsible for hate crimes? My feelings are hurt here."

We know you don't have any feelings, Rush, except fake outrage produced when the TV camera or microsphone is activated.

But what do you care about Obama's remarks, except as more fodder for your endelsss diatribe? You exist only because of the ignorance of the people who listen to you and actually believe you. That would be the 30% of America who doesn't read, and *only* gets it's "news" from Talk Radio.

Congratulations: you (and every other malcontent, large and small) have "proven" that it is possible to enrich yourself simply by spreading your deep (personal) unhappiness to others, who are foolish enough to believe your version of the Facts of any given situation..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 05/26/2008
- TimT I'm a Fan of TimT 2 fans permalink

I'm quite concerned about the direction that Barack is taking on this issue. I totally support his war position and feel that his health care position is good -- though it doesn't go far enough. And I can't imagine any candidate that would do more to heal our racial wounds.

But Barack seems to have an immigration policy that cares about supporting illegal immigrants -- instead of keeping immigration low and wages high. Of the three candidates, Barack seems least likely to support strong borders and go after employers.

From the beginning he's been my candidate -- I just can't stand the conservative elements of McCain's platform. But I just can't get behind a candidate that can't acknowledge the downside of immigration and won't fix the enormous drain that this has on our social systems. And my guess is that many other independents feel the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

As a good yellow dog Democrat, I WAS going to vote for whoever won the nomination. With this LIE that Obama has perpetrated, he has now made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to do so if he wins. I thought that I could NEVER vote for McCain, but I am now going to have to rethink that position. Dobbs has made it more than clear, that he is opposed as I am as ALL Americans should be, against ILLEGAL immigration. He cares less who or where the illegals are from. The FACT is that they should NOT BE HERE at all. If you do not think that they should obey the law, then you should vote for Obama.

With this statement Obama has now said outright that in effect he will NOT enforce the laws OR support the Constitution of the USA. I cannot in good conscience vote for a liar and one who will NOT willingly support the oath that he will be required to take should he win. I cannot believe that Obama did that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 05/26/2008

We are all God's children of all colors. It dont matter if you are a yellow or brown democrat. Dobbs and Rush spreads there hate every night. You can vote for McSame if you would like to see this war continue. If you would like to see our economy stay in the dumps and you can vot for McSame if you like the gas prices and going higher. If that is what you like then vote for your McCain. Dont be yelling when all these things happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

At least McCain knows that the high gas prices are a problem. Obama denies that they are and has NO program or proposals to bring them down. I recall the ridicule that Obama supporters heaped on Clinton for making her proposals while having NONE of his own to bring down the price. Clinton has proposed not only a Federal gas tax holiday, but also to open the SPR reserves and dump millions of barrels of oil onto the market. THAT will CRASH the price of oil. Of course, Obama and his folks will take a financial bath if that happens since they are the ones who are the speculators in oil driving the price up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/26/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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I'm for Obama and he's obviously very intelligent, but positing this argument is a no-brainer. lou dobbs nightly assails against Mexicans echos xenophobia throughout history. rush? he is like the radio hate mongers from the twenties and thirties. creeps like these have always been with us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 AM on 05/26/2008
- Bobrobert I'm a Fan of Bobrobert 9 fans permalink

Berlin Wall between Mexico and US???

What a waste of time and money.

Get a life.

Vote for amnesty and citizenship for all aliens who desire it in the U.S.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 05/26/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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not to mention the unequal treatment of erecting these walls, depending on how rich and connected to the plutocrats one is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 05/26/2008

Right on, Obama! We really need to begin a rational dialog on immigration, rather than get all excited by demagogues. Did you know OK will lose $10 billion over the next decade because they passed a xenophobic immigration law, and all their immigrants left? Did you know that most immigrants are high skilled workers, not 'illiterate peasants' as Colorado Rep. Douglas Bruce says? (Yes, we Coloradans are all very proud of him - NOT!) Did you know that American business counts on importing skilled workers and scientists from other countries, and that the cap for these H1B Visas is 65,000? Recently a Republican tried to double this cap and it was overturned because Congress and the Senate simply cannot have a rational discussion on this issue? This is why we need to watch congressional races very closely. There are many seats that can be won by Democrats, such as Mark Udall in Colorado. These folks can go to D.C. on Obama's coattails if we are smart about how we vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 AM on 05/26/2008
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 11 fans permalink

It's too bad Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh can't be charged, prosecuted and convicted for hate crimes which they are obviously guilty of and subsequently jailed. Unfortunately, the are far to rich and powerful to be dragged through out legal system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 05/26/2008
- iLogos I'm a Fan of iLogos 6 fans permalink

They have committed no crimes. They have inflamed feelings of fear and frustration, and turned them into hate superiority... but there is nothing illegal in them expressing themselves in public. They are not inciting violence, they are simply fanning the flames of what was already there.

The people that should go to jail are the ones that have actually committed the crimes.

If the corporations employing Misters Dobbs and Limbaugh had any ethics or morals they would deny them the platform to continue their pandering tirades. The government though should take no part in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

Should the people who broke our laws entering illegally go to jail too? Illegal entry for the second offense is a FELONY! How about the illegals who are convicted of crimes, should they be deported? Most of you think not. Should those who are guilty of ID theft, perjury, document fraud, simple fraud, and other crimes be sent to prison? If you or I commit such crimes WE will go to prison. Should illegals be exempt from our laws?

The reason most Americans are so upset is that they see this double standard and preference given to illegals by law enforcement. They also see the pro-illegals supporting the MOST reactionary elements of US power such as the Chamber of Commerce who want to import MORE cheap labor to drive down our wages. It is Obama and his supporters who are the supporters of reaction and conservatism. That is why I cannot vote for Obama. I will NOT vote for a man who wants to bring down my wages and screw the American workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 05/26/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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The 2 crimes (no penalty) :

1. Lou Dobbs, Limbaugh & Hannity should have their "guns" (microphones) taken away from them.
They're like big male BRATS who haven't earned the maturity to handle a microphone.

2. Anyone who actually listens to these 3 cockroaches needs serious evaluation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/26/2008

What are the actual numbers Obama ? Just saying "hate crime rates against Hispanics have doubled" means absolutely nothing without the actual numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/25/2008
- iLogos I'm a Fan of iLogos 6 fans permalink

Actually that is not true. The doubling of any crime statistic is cause for extreme worry... but if you are interested that information can be found through the FBI.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 AM on 05/26/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 156 fans permalink
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Methinks Obama misplaces blame.

I think I'd place the blame on tougher economic times, the widespread recognition that illegal immigrants displace American workers, and most importantly on the fact that illegal immigrants are just that: Illegal.

Nothing makes you mad like your neighbor flagrantly violating the law while the cops continually ignore it, when the same cops go out of their way looking for a reason to bust you.

I have many views that many others would describe as "liberal", but permitting illegal immigration to swamp the job market that our children need to enter before they are even old enough to enter it isn't one of them. Are we supposed to forget that the "labor" Business is trying to underbid, disorganize, and destroy with illegal immigration is us?

Why do any of us ever serve this nation, if we are only to give it away on a silver platter to the "reconquistas" because Business likes cheap labor?

And at the other end of the economic scale, why should America subsidize the social and economic costs of Latin America's incredibly off-balanced inequality curve with our taxes and jobs - again, simply because Business likes cheap labor?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/25/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 156 fans permalink
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I don't think my views are going to matter, though. The Administration is making an end-run to garner the Hispanic vote by changing the rules for "temporary non-agricultural guest worker" (or H2-B) visas.

Neat changes, too..."temporary" goes from 10 months to 3 years (longer than a lot of today's marriages!), direct application to the Feds replaces state workforce agency oversight, and you would only have to say you tried to fill a job with U.S. workers instead of prove that you tried.

lollll...poof....instant bucketfuls of new Republican voters: "Look at what the Republicans did for the people from your home country!!!". (Which might be the real reason why Obama took such a slant - how else is somebody who aspires to bring change to deal with embedded criminals who hold power?)

What nobody seems to want to recognize is that the illegal immigration problem itself stems from the crushingly distorted inequality curves in Latin America.

However, our continuing to permit a deluge of illegal immigration allows Business to suppress wages here and will cause our increasingly unbalanced inequality curve to catch up with those the illegals are fleeing!

Far better for the majority of Americans, I believe, to pressure Latin America to change their tax structure to redistribute income, and to hell with the cries of outrage of the neocons, neoliberals, and Republicans who are behind the dramatic shift in our own inequality curve since 1980 .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/25/2008

Just a couple of points:
1. If you refer to my post above, the majority of immigrants to the US are high skilled workers, coming here on H1B visas
2. Do you really want to do stoop labor in the beet fields? Do your children?
3. Most illegals are part of families where several members are legally here, so if we split the families we create both economic and personal hardship
4. States, such as OK, that pass draconian anti-immigrant laws actually lose out economically
5. The Republican controlled Congress (until 06) has authorized tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, and that's doing far more to hurt you than those who come to work in agriculture.
6. If we could actually have a rational discussion of the issue, and how it really ties to other economic issues, we would be a lot better off, because then we could make policy decisions that are intelligent, rather that put bandaids on the problem, as has been done for decades

Oh, and illegals cannot vote. Hope you're aware of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 05/26/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

The problem is that illegals CAN and DO vote. They caught one illegal in WA who had a voter ID card and had voted. The unfortunate part is that there is now no way to check if a person is a legal voter. THAT is why we have no stats on how many vote illegally. The only thing preventing them from voting is the oath they have to swear that they are citizens and are eligible to vote legally. Since illegals have shown no willingness to abide by any of our laws, committing perjury is no problem since the pro-illegals think that they should never be prosecuted for it.
As an election judge, if I see a person who is under age 65 and who speaks no or limited English, I will have to ask more questions to see if they are legally eligible to vote. Even if they have a valid registration card, I will have to find that they are originally from Puerto Rico or that they are from the Valley or some other rural place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 05/26/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

Illegals can't vote, that was funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 05/26/2008
- iLogos I'm a Fan of iLogos 6 fans permalink

You have several VERY false assumptions rooted in your post.

1. there has been nothing but a causal link between illegal immigration and unemployment of legal residents/citizens. The administration likes to tout numbers citing that unemployment is at a low, acceptable, even desirable number. Hard for GOP leaning citizens to argue AMericans not having jobs because of the rise in the numbers of illegal immigrants and at the same time saying unemployment is dropping.

2. Do you have some sort of illegal immigrant vision? I only ask because last time I checked there was no way to tell if the Spanish-only speaking Hispanic living next door was born and raised in Seattle, Washington, but the Canadian across the street drove down from Alberta three years ago and just never left.

3. If you want to fight illegal immigration the two best things you can do is punish the businesses that hire them and create a trade and economy balance that allows for both skilled and unskilled labor in neighboring countries to find and keep work in their own country. If you want to find the reason for the migration of workers from south of our border check our trade policies and the government of President Vicente Fox.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 05/26/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 156 fans permalink
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"...a causal link between illegal immigration and unemployment of legal residents/citizens. The administration likes to tout numbers...."

Any numbers this Administration uses are subject to their policy of ensuring that all data and conclusions released to the public are "on-message", which is tantamount to saying that anything else will be suppressed - which they have in fact been caught doing.

Further, 30 years ago fast food joints (as one example) were full of students paying their way through college. Now, employers grab up illegals or H2-B workers because they don't have to worry about continual training requirements, displacing our kids and forcing them to take out huge student loans that cannot be walked away from even if that means their and their parents' Social Security checks must be garnished.

"Do you have some sort of illegal immigrant vision?"

lolll...actually, I'm a rude son of a bitch. I've asked to see ID numerous times before...and since I for some reason look like a government official, if they take off running I draw the appropriate conclusion.

"If you want to find the reason for the migration of workers from south of our border check our trade policies and the government of President Vicente Fox."

Again, why should America be required to subsidize failed and inequitable policies in other nations? Perhaps we should instead invade them as we did Iraq, and take the responsibility for reforming their aristocracies out of their hands?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 05/26/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

Great points! Whatever has happened to reason and common sense?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 05/29/2008
- AnnieinOR I'm a Fan of AnnieinOR 24 fans permalink

how do Dobbs wife and kids feel with him being so anti-mexican? His wife is mexican, and his kids are half. SICK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 05/25/2008
- asemaany I'm a Fan of asemaany 3 fans permalink

He keeps saying he has problem with illegal immigrants! just to have his say here

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 05/25/2008
- Breni I'm a Fan of Breni 8 fans permalink

AnnieinOR - Dobbs is against those who ILLEGALLY ENTER OUR COUNTRY - ILLEGAL ALIENS - got that? NOT 'LEGAL'. Illegal aliens come in ALL races and colors - but to be sure, the HUGE majority ARE from Mexico/Hispanic heritage. His wife is an AMERICAN (with Mexican ancestors). There ARE Mexicans who are Americans.

The stupid media (other than Dobbs) portray all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS as just 'immigrants' - that's a HUGE insult and disservice to all LEGAL immigrants - the ones who did it the RIGHT way. The ILLEGAL immigrants also make it bad for the LEGAL immigrants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 AM on 05/26/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

Xenophobia — pure and simple. What a terrible thing to say about anybody... Crass and thoughtless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 05/29/2008
- cylindar I'm a Fan of cylindar 7 fans permalink

LLimbaugh and Dobbs are on the way out. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/25/2008
- xmw I'm a Fan of xmw 18 fans permalink

one can hope...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 05/25/2008
- Breni I'm a Fan of Breni 8 fans permalink

cylindar

LLimbaugh and Dobbs are on the way out. Good riddance to bad rubbish

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Dobbs out? You wish! That will NEVER happen. Dobbs is probably the only fair and honest journalist that can be found in this sea of media vipers!


Ohhhh....boo hoo! Some 'ole meanies are talking about my 'idol' - they need to be fired! Boo hoo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 AM on 05/26/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

You can't compare the two, Dobbs is very critical of the Bush administration, he is opposed to illegal immigration, as are many Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 05/26/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

The unfortunate comments made recently by Barack Obama about Lou Dobbs shows that — unfortunately for all people who seem to think that Obama is in some way holier-than-thou than the other candidates — that Barack is simply another ordinary, run-of-the-mill propaganda spouter and will, once in office, continue running the country as a corporocracy. I agree that either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton will make far better presidents than John “Bomb Iran” McCain, but that’s not the point, they will become puppet presidents for the ongoing corporocracy that is the real power running the USA.
I'm always amazed how sheep-like American voters are, getting all of their news from the infotainment media — all owned by corporations and most of the information & news adding up to propaganda.
There are, however, some truly intelligent reporters to be found among the trash of the infotainment media and Lou Dobbs is one of them. When you listen to Dobbs you have to think. He refuses to spoon-feed information to his audience. Dobbs does not “feed xenophobia” and is not “ginning things up” in respect to anything that would have to do with “hate crimes against Hispanic people.” Barack is transparently and shamelessly fishing for votes among Hispanic voters here without taking time to understand the true issues involved and without taking time to learn anything about the good work that Dobbs is doing to help the cause of Hispanic people. (Dobbs - Part I)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 05/25/2008
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"Biogroup," you are misguided. Obama is simply talking about Hispanic topics of interest because he IS talking to Hispanics. What, should he talk about African American or Jewish topics when he addresses a Latino crowd?
I mean, come on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/26/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 54 fans permalink

I thought he was talking to all of America, not just pandering to specific groups, I thought he wanted to unite us all,not just say what one group wants to hear, to get their vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/26/2008
- mcgreen I'm a Fan of mcgreen 4 fans permalink

Barack is on the money.

I was so shocked to hear Hillary claim that sexism is rampant and racism is only soso.

As a woman, I know that sexism is still around. But in my experience xenophobia and racism are 100 times worse. And that's an older white woman speaking about what she perceives, I'm sure the recipients hear it lots more then I see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/26/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

For Barack Obama to stupidly lump Lou Dobbs with Rush Limbaugh is a real mistake and demonstrates tremendous ignorance. Rush Limbaugh is a wise-mouthed, right wing ideologue who often shoots his mouth off before engaging brain.
Lou Dobbs on the contrary is a highly respected journalist who has won many awards for his work and has a PhD in Economics from Harvard University. Many who criticize Dobbs are those who are either not intelligent enough to understand what he says or who can only handle their “news” in 30 second sound bites, but many more are among the corporocracy and Lou Dobbs scares them to death.
And this is the main factor at work here. Lou Dobbs is a populist. He is for the little guy, the ordinary citizen. He is a strong supporter of Hispanics and their desire to be treated as fairly as other Americans. For obvious reasons he is not popular with those who are members of or support the corporocracy. Because he has so many populist supporters and because his arguments so intelligent he serves as a lightening rod for criticism from those of the corporocracy. So next time you want to know who is on the side of the corporocracy versus who is on the side of the people and that person is slamming Lou Dobbs now you have your answer. So is Obama really on the side of the little guy, or is it all just talk? (Dobbs- Part II)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/25/2008
- tecpatl I'm a Fan of tecpatl 2 fans permalink

Lou Dobbs DOES NOT have a PhD in Economics from Harvard. He has a bachelor's degree, which is , oh overeducated, superintelligent one - quite different. As for being highly respected, you are completely incorrect. Whatever respect he once had has been lost by his nightly tirades of pure hatred. He is not capable of having rational discussions with people, but, instead, he invites other racists that agree with him, or he just yells and insults those that do not. You should read the boycottdobbs.com website for more documentation that proves he is a racist, a propagandist, a distributor of misinformation, and an umbrella for Nazi groups. You criticize others for being "sheep" that depend on infotainment for their news, but what do you think CNN is? Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Wolf Blitzer, John King, Dana Basher, Candy Crowley, and the recent hiring of TWO recent graduates of the Bush school of corruption prove that CNN is really trying to become the new Fox news. It is a corporate machine that is climbing the ratings ladder on the backs of the working class and immigrants. Are you even aware of the corruption and conflicts of interest which cost Lou Dobbs his original job as host of Moneyline? He was known for being SOFT on corporations and over-friendly with their CEOs, even enjoying numerous free flights on their personal jets. He is just earning MILLIONS by attacking immigrants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/25/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

Your messages speak for themselves – so full of propaganda and unproven character assassination they cannot be taken seriously. I’ve never seen anybody seriously cite a Wiki article, and as for the Wall Street Journal, well you can’t get any more corporocracy than that & I could go on & on, but I will not. And don’t get me wrong, I’m no blind devotee of Lou Dobbs, I simply admire and respect his intelligent, cogent presentations of populist politics and philosophy on a television channel which indeed all too frequently embodies the corporocracy (with it’s 2-party political straightjacket) and the infotainment media circus.
What this is supposed to be about is Obama and his slamming of Dobbs out of his ignorance while speaking as a political candidate for President of the US. I’m not worried about my own ignorance or yours but I sure as heck am concerned when a guy who everybody seems to want in the White House next year spouts off on a subject about which he is obviously uninformed. And in case he thinks its not important there are almost 1 million people who hang onto Lou Dobbs every word every night and those 1 million people have a geometrical impact on millions of other populist-leaning folks. The populist movement is growing hard and fast. I think we all want a president who can lead this country and stop making the USA appear as the laughing stock of the world.
(Dobbs Vitriol Response – Part II)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 05/25/2008
- biogroup I'm a Fan of biogroup 2 fans permalink

I find your hatred and vitriol for Lou Dobbs sadly typical. Thank you, however, for correcting the single error in my posts, that of naming Dobbs’ degree from Harvard as being a PhD when in fact you are correct that it is indeed a bachelor’s degree. How that is relevant enough to the discussion for you to put the “does not” in all caps however is again revealing of the immense amount of rage you have to express.
You write: “As for being highly respected, you are completely incorrect. Whatever respect he once had has been lost by his nightly tirades of pure hatred.” Have you ever watched Lou Dobbs? I have never seen a single “tirade” by Dobbs, let alone one of “pure hatred.” He’s a pretty loving and passionate journalist who truly cares about what happens to ordinary people – including illegal immigrants – whom he often worries over and discusses in light of the lousy way they are treated once they make it into this country: their unspeakably low wages, poor living conditions, etc.
(Dobbs Vitriol Response – Part I)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 05/25/2008
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When Lou Dobbs comes on I TIVO his ass away.
Anderson Cooper has the most intelligent program on CNN.
David Gergin (sp?) is my favorite pundit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 05/26/2008
- tecpatl I'm a Fan of tecpatl 2 fans permalink

As for his " numerous" awards, those were all given for his previous work covering the business world. He has not received ANY awards for his immigration coverage from any respected organizations. He has received two awards from right-wing racist umbrella groups. One from the Center for Immigration Studies, which is founded by the Federation for immigration Reform - a group that has been declared a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. FAIR also received $1.4 million from the Pioneer Fund - described by a Wall Street Journal editorial as a "white-supremacist outfit devoted to racial purity through eugenics." (From Wiki article). He also received an award from the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, another right-wing think tank that DOES NOT disclose its funding and is known for its work for tobacco CORPORATIONS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/25/2008
- certainot I'm a Fan of certainot 3 fans permalink

i agree dobbs and limbaugh are not operating on the same level. dobbs is basically a tick on limbaugh's ass, feeding off the propaganda groundwork done on talk radio. dobbs has used this issue to pander to the xenophobes and if you listen to Amy Goodman's (Democracy Now) interview with him you'll see what a liar he is. the whole anti immigration issue has been used by rove/bush to get support for voter suppression and Orwellian ID legislation to help the GOP in their need to steal elections. dobbs is riding that all the way to the bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 05/25/2008
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