Pelosi: Clinton Loss Won't Mean Women Suffer A 'Step Back'

Bloomberg:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said women won't suffer a "step back" if Democrat Hillary Clinton loses her presidential bid, and rejected the idea of sexism in the presidential campaign.

Clinton, 60, a New York senator, is "bigger than all of it"' and has shown "courage," Pelosi, a California Democrat, said in an interview with Judy Woodruff broadcast on the PBS NewsHour last night.

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Comments

[Deparis]

Madam Speaker, with all due respect, but how on hell can she still win if the nominee is going to be determined by delegate count as you rightfully pointed out? This type of talk is exactly what feeds Sen. Clintion's delusion and ego in keeping this nightmare going.

[missusam]

Exactly, talking out both sides of her neck. Gee whiz.

[marc1antony]

Obama has not officially become the nominee yet, although inevitable, she has to play the diplomatic role and acknowledge Hillary, or she will be accused of favoritism and sexism.

[olivia]

In the realm of what is possible in the universe Hillary could still win. The superdelegates who have committed to one candidate or another can still change their minds. That is unlikely but it is what Hillary hopes. And if Nancy Pelosi says the race is over, you know what the reaction will be.

Pelosi is keeping the peace. Good for her.

[ATLiberal]

What do Indira Ghandi, Golda Meier and Margaret Thatcher have in common??

They NEVER, EVER used the sexism card while slugging their way to the top. That is a crutch that Hillary has used pretty extensively of late.

So, to my way of thinking, if you have to resort to playing the gender card when you lose, maybe you aren't as "tough" as you like to say you are, Sen. Clinton.

[walk0nwalls]

Funny you mention Thatcher. Clinton reminds me a lot of Thatcher.

That is not a compliment.

[thepoliticalcat]

Not to be nitpicky, but it's G-A-N-D-H-I. I get really sick of people misspelling the name of the Father of the Indian nation (no relative of Indira's, her maiden name was Nehru).

[ATLiberal]

My apologies. I stand corrected.

[Fergie13]

"NEVER, EVER". Really. How big a fool are you? People work with the cards they are given. It's not a crutch it's more of a burden, ask Sen Obama. Folks here at HuffPo don't want to talk, they want to find new followers, and I'm not buying. Best of luck.

[ATLiberal]

The cards they are dealt? You think the U.S. in 2008 is more misogynist than Indian culture decades ago?

[CAPTAINSKIPPY]

Nancy Pelosi, unable to triangulate toward impeachment, toward progress.

[barackobama4prez]

As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton, I feel Condi Rice has set women back even more. As a Black woman I can't understand how Condi Rice felt it would be at benefit to her or other women...or other Black women .... to be the one to serve under Bushes term.

[whitey7]

Do all black women have to share your opinion? (even if you are right)

[barackobama4prez]

Hell, women in my own family disagree with me. My point is, I wish she wouldn't have done it. She should not have done it in my opinion. My opinion isn't worth anything to her so it doesn't matter. Just venting. I wish she would have been a Democrat is all, maybe working on an administration like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. Maybe I am wrong but it's how I feel. She's on the wrong side and DEFINITELY on the wrong administration. What a waste of good skills.

[utd]

She is an ideologue. You probably don't subscribe to what they believe and neither do I, but they feel the same way about us. The same party who freed the AA slaves managed to make slaves out of the entire middle class. Their agenda has nothing to do with race or women beyond what can be exploited from them. It's about money and power, which oddly seems to be Hillary's agenda as well.

[Deparis]

Good point. Condi has always been in the Bushy money greed tank, she has never been a principled woman. Look at her bio.

[olivia]

Condi's loyalty was to herself and her own ambition. She did not represent women or her race at all.

[TheNuff]

It's a JOB! If it were offered to me I would have take it!

[barackobama4prez]

can she live with herself and the decisions she made on this JOB is the question. I couldn't. I could never condone torture. Condi will never represent my values.

[politricking]

I am an Obama supporter and I strongly dislike many of Condi's policies, sitting as an executive for an oil company didn't help either. However, I don't see her serving under Bush having to do with setting women, black or other, back. If anything, it's a plus. It's a position of power and a woman is at the helm.

While it's true Pelosi has not come through entirely, I'm still rooting for her. When a Democratic majority takes power this year, as Icahn put it, there will be runaway legislation. I can't wait.

[barackobama4prez]

If I could have lunch with her I would. I would like to look in her eyes (Condi Rice that is) and ask her what the hell she was thinking.

[Countess]

Hillary Clinton has at least proved that a woman candidate can be as bad as any man. She has been a terrible candidate in so many ways it it is difficult to know where to begin. She plays the same way as the FOX news boys and worse and her uplifting promise to obliterate Iran was so inspiring as were her promoting herself as the great white hope. She has offered very little positive in this campaign and she deserves to lose no matter what her gender is.

[metrext]

This is a good sign.

She is just laying the groundwork for the Pelosi Club's support of Obama. Similar to Edwards glowing comments about Hillary, this is a sign that the Supers are about to come out in force after all primary votes are cast.

[ObamaEdwards]

Let's hope so. And let's hope Clinton takes the hint and gets her dinghy out of the water. Because if the party has to push her out, it's going to get ugly. The Clintons are nothing if not sore losers.

[burnt]

only the delegates count... the real message.

[KillTheMessenger]

Nancy says it as she sees it. And she happens to be right. Again.

[Gonefishing]

A Clinton loss could actually help gender equality. Any woman can win like a man but can a woman lose as gracefully? It's character not chromosomes that matter.

[thecanadian]

Amen

[thepoliticalcat]

Yes, women can lose gracefully. They've been doing it for centuries, dammit. CLINTON can't lose gracefully, and that's a whole different kettle of fish.

I swear that woman is a disgrace and a millstone around the neck of every other woman on the planet. She inspires sexism.

[MyThought]

Oh gee, Pelosi's big ego wouldn't be a factor would it? She's top banana right now and she wouldn't want to share the "I'm important" spotlight right now would she? Face it, Hillary would be better than Pelosi or Harry Reid in their positions right now.

Pelosi should keep her mouth shut - stay neutral as possible and act like she can handle the position she's in - she hasn't been a roaring success at this point.

[savertime]

Many Americans STILL believe that character, integrity, ethics and principles (redundant?) matter!!
You obviously don't!! A third term for Bill Clinton will be just as nauseating as a third term for
George Bush.

[patmancando]

You captured my thoughts about Pelosi........she is jealous that HIllary might be elected Prez..which would steal her thunder. I don't know how many were as proud of Pelosi attaining 3rd in line for the Prez, as I was, or how many of them are equally as disappointed with he performance in the position of Speaker of the House. What a bomb!, and she herself might have set the prestige of women in politics back years.

[YankeeCanuck]

I respectfully disagree. While I may not agree with everything Pelosi has said, she speaks with reason. And, there is a streak of misogyny that runs straight through our culture. She ought to know. But she has risen above it.
HRC has done it her own way, perhaps with some ill-advised campaign tactics. But like Obama she has energized a cohort of voters who are becoming interested, many for the first time, voters of all ages. That is important.

[Deparis]

MyThought,

The last time I checked, Speaker Pelosi has stayed neutral and has not endorsed any candidate (which I think is dragging this nonesense on). Stating what the DNC rules are is no where overboard. Look for something else to attack her.

[Vantunow]

If Hillary doesn't step back, Pelosi Club is about to drop the hammer on her.

[ReasonIsMyReligion]

ALL women suffered a setback when ONE woman said, "Impeachment is off the table."

[Sali68]

my heart broke hearing those words...my heart breaks now knowing all the stuff the repubs have gotten away with. How weak the democratic party has shown to be. Just weak

[YankeeCanuck]

Reason, it was heartbreaking. But your religion would tell you there's no way an impeachment proceeding could succeed at that time. Furthermore, there were no key Republicans who would give Bush "the vivit" like they gave Nixon. Yes, we've all been around this issue many times and I felt the way you did when I heard those words.
But hearing Pelosi's opening remarks in Iowa introducing the Democratic presidential candidates made me think of her in a different light. I wish everyone who remembers only that sound bite could have heard that speech.
I am watching and waiting for some criminal charges.

[YankeeCanuck]

Sorry, that's "visit"

[Sali68]

what does Pelosi mean she still has a chance to win this...

I have long been a supporter of the Clinton Family...I was the biggest voice in my house begging for a HRC Presidency. I felt if no one else then of course HRC...she deserves it. I guess I thought like she does now that she deserve this at every cost. I can't say enough how sadden she has made me over the past few months...well I think I am past sad now but I have leaped straight into anger. Just when I thought she could not get any lower she goes and do just that... this and her comments comparing her ill run, nasty, republican campaign to civil rights just FLOORED me.
What makes her any different than Bush/Cheney with her at whatever cost mentality? I see no difference, not even gender. He r cohort said something about her cojones in compared to Obama a few weeks ago and he sure pegged that right... she's got em alright

Thank you for showing me what feminism really is and trust me it has nothing to do with civil rights or what Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, or your beloved everyday reference to MLK fought for. Your feminism is selfish, manipulative and destructive.

You've opened my eyes. I really appreciate getting to know you.

When People Show you Who they are Believe them the First Time.
Maya Angelou

You showed me now I know.

[walk0nwalls]

Frankly I've been advocating the death of Second Wave feminism for a long time now.

Third wave just makes so much more sense.

It's easier to live with too.

Third wave feminist male and proud of it!

[LittleBrother]

How about THIS headline?: Pelosi Win Means Women Suffer A 'Step Back'
__________­__________­__________­______

Men, too. And not just Amerikans.

Nancy "You Anti-War Protestors Stay the Hell Off My Lawn!" Pelosi is an abomination-- an accessory before and after the fact to the maladministration's multifarious high crimes and misdemeanors.

Her unashamed Vichycrat stance has already set the cause of feminism and human rights back at least a century.

[patmancando]

Hey, Little Brother,

Did you mean to say Obamination? She has sounded like she supports him from the many insipid things she has said. I don't think too many put any credence in her after her
wimpy performance in the House!

[whitey7]

She does support him it's easy to see I will agree with you on that - but hey most people do!

[Deparis]

What's exactly your problem with Speaker Pelosi? At least she does not have thousands of innocent people's blood on her hands. I will take her over Dubbya.

[LittleBrother]

I would take her over Satan himself, perhaps, if it came to that.

Otherwise-- of COURSE she's steeped in blood up to her eyeballs. Without even reaching the deeper questions of how and why she peremptorily abdicated her party's responsibility to oppose the "war"-- after the Democratic candidates were swept into power in 2006 by strong anti-war sentiment rising to the level of a mandate-- her dual dicta that "impeachment is oft the table" and "the president will get all the funding he requires for the occupation of Iraq" represented a flying leap into the ocean of blood loosed by her Commander-in-Chief.

As noted previously, Nancy is more bothered by those anti-war protesters trespassing on her lawn than her glib and unrelenting acquiescence to the warmongers in charge.

[david87501]

If you are determined to vote for a woman for president, please consider Cynthia McKinney.

Reasons Not to Vote for Hillary Clinton

1. She voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

2. She voted for the USA PATRIOT Act.

3. She voted for the No Child Left Behind Act.

4. She voted for the Bankruptcy Abuse
Prevention and Consumer Protection Act.

5. She is a member of the Democratic Leadership Council.

6. The sense of entitlement Clinton seems to have, coupled with the corporate media's insistence for the past two years that she would be the inevitable Democratic nominee.

7. She vote for Kyle-Lieberman

8. If we give her credit for her husband's accomplishments, we can thank her for:

a. NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement);

b. failure to establish a comprehensive health care plan in 1993;

c. the massive bombing of Iraq;

d. welfare “reform”;

e. the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

For elaboration of these points, visit article titled "7 reasons I will not cast my vote for Hillary (from a Texas voter)"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4461878&mesg_id=4461878

[patmancando]

b. failure to establish a comprehensive health care plan in 1993;

Clinton was way before her time in 93 in trying to get health care through. One can see how right she was to try, and all the problems created because she failed. The huge #s of people who have no coverage, those who lose their very expensive health care coverage when they develop a need for because of a catastrophic illness or expensive operation, and something most people don't think about.....­.......how many jobs have been lost because the companies couldn't continue to pay for health insurance for their employees. Just look at the automobile industry and all the manufacturers who have moved their production overseas. She tried, she failed, she learned and she has the passion to succeed this time. I don't see the fire in Obama's belly about providing health care. Actually I don't see much fire in his belly for anything except winning this election for personal aggrandizement

[bratzilla]

C. Failure to provide Jobs to the unemployed (as was her last campaign promise) in Buffalo, NY.

[whitey7]

Now that's a real woman!