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NEDRA PICKLER | May 24, 2008 02:20 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., chats with his campaign communications director Robert Gibbs, before a rally in Tampa, Fla., Wednesday, May 21, 2008. As the marathon Democratic primary campaign nears an end, Obama's staff is on the verge of vindicating its belief that the eloquent black freshman senator was a unique candidate who could win the Democratic nomination. The band of Obama loyalists who imagined that could happen have stunned even themselves with their success against Hillary Rodham Clinton. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

WASHINGTON — Call them Kool-Aid drinkers. Political romantics. Starry-eyed dreamers.

But as the marathon Democratic primary campaign nears an end, Barack Obama's staff is on the verge of vindicating its belief that the eloquent black freshman senator from Illinois was a unique candidate who could win the Democratic nomination in one of the biggest upsets in presidential politics.

The band of Obama loyalists who imagined that could happen have stunned even themselves with their success against Hillary Rodham Clinton, who appeared to have wrapped up the nomination last year, before any votes were cast. Now, they face a new challenge with the impending nomination and campaign against Republican John McCain.

If they succeed, many team members could be helping run the country eight months from now. Presidents often appoint campaign advisers to top administration jobs.

The team was led by calm and focused campaign manager David Plouffe; their strategy was inspired by the candidate's experience as a community organizer. They built a campaign designed to accomplish what other political sensations like Gary Hart and Howard Dean failed to do _ turn the energy and excitement of the Obama phenomenon into long-term results.

"I think everyone knew realistically that he was starting as an underdog," said longtime friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett. "But I don't think he would have started down this path with a team that didn't think he would win. It was going to be an uphill battle, but in the end I think we were all confident that it could be done and that he could do it."

Matching Obama's organizing background, the team has roots in conducting on-the-ground congressional campaigns across the country. Many top aides were groomed by former House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt and former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle instead of by the Clinton wing of the party. Clinton's team was built with Washington and New York operatives.

From its experience in congressional races, the Obama team understood firsthand the extent of Clinton fatigue in the heartland and the lesson of the 2006 midterm elections: America wants change.

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Obama's chief directive for hiring the more than 700 staff members who eventually came to work for him was: No Drama Allowed. Obama's even demeanor is reflected in the advisers closest to him. While Clinton's campaign divided into conflicting power centers whose emotional disputes leaked publicly, any fights in the Obama campaign were kept in the family.

Plouffe embodies Obama's vision _ a steady and unemotional number cruncher averse to the limelight, able to tune out noise and focus on the moves needed to reach the end game. Plouffe was the mastermind of Obama's long-range campaign plan that looked beyond the Feb. 5 Super Tuesday primaries that Clinton had predicted would deliver the nomination to her. He dispatched staff to states that Clinton's campaign overlooked, particularly small caucus states where intensive organization produced wins that swelled Obama's delegate lead.

A Gephardt guy, Plouffe had worked on campaigns that went broke, so he was notoriously cheap. Obama attracted a talented staff willing to work for much less than they could have made with Clinton. Plouffe carefully minded the bank account to preserve enough money to keep running after the wildly expensive Super Tuesday contests while Clinton's campaign went broke. She had to lend it $11.4 million to stay afloat.

In the month after Super Tuesday, Obama won 11 straight contests and took a delegate lead that Clinton has not been able to erase.

That's not to say Obama's campaign plan worked flawlessly. The initial plan was to turn a win in Iowa into a win in New Hampshire that would make his nomination unstoppable, but Clinton defeated him in New Hampshire and the campaign dragged on for months.

Now the team must reunite the fractured party and introduce Obama to a whole new swath of voters as he takes on a well-known war hero with bipartisan appeal. The campaign is rapidly adding new people, like experienced communications strategist Anita Dunn, who is married to campaign general counsel Bob Bauer and recently joined Obama's inner circle.

Obama's other closest advisers:

_ David Axelrod, a former newspaper columnist who shares Obama's talent with words, is the most experienced and visible political strategist. An idealist who exudes enthusiasm for his candidate, Axelrod helps buck Obama up on the road. Also from Chicago, he can play down-and-dirty politics with a Midwestern smile.

_ Jarrett, who has helped guide Obama's entire political career, brings blunt assessments only a longtime friend can provide. Jarrett has known the Obamas since before they were married, when she hired Michelle to work for Chicago Mayor Richard Daley. Known to be cool under pressure, she stepped up her campaign role last fall when Obama was a distant second to Clinton. Bringing a fresh outsider perspective, she held staff accountable.

_ Pete Rouse, who has run Obama's Senate office, is known for loyalty and a self-effacing manner. Rouse brings expert knowledge of Washington to a team based in Chicago. He protects Obama's standing in the capital city and has brought in other D.C. operatives, particularly from the Daschle fold where he used to run things.

_ Robert Gibbs, who has been at Obama's side since his Senate campaign, is communications director. A Southerner and tough fighter, Gibbs is a passionate defender and can channel the candidate's thoughts. He's also among a few who can frankly tell Obama what needs to improve.

_ Michelle Obama, the candidate's wife, is his closest confidant. She often says, "I'm not his senior adviser, I'm his wife." But she also talks about how dinner conversations about their family are what's in his mind when he's crafting policy. She's the ultimate truth teller to the candidate; he calls her for feedback after debates. She has led the campaign's outreach to female voters: As a lawyer and hospital executive, she provides evidence that Obama respects strong women even as he's campaigning against one.

Another crucial adviser is Steve Hildebrand, who oversaw state-by-state efforts to run up Obama wins. Other key team members are finance chairwoman Penny Pritzker, finance director Julianna Smoot, policy director Heather Higginbottom, scheduling director Alyssa Mastromonaco, deputy communications director Dan Pfeiffer, national press secretary Bill Burton, economics adviser Austan Goolsbee and foreign policy aides Anthony Lake and Susan Rice.

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WASHINGTON — Call them Kool-Aid drinkers. Political romantics. Starry-eyed dreamers. But as the marathon Democratic primary campaign nears an end, Barack Obama's staff is on the verge of vindic...
WASHINGTON — Call them Kool-Aid drinkers. Political romantics. Starry-eyed dreamers. But as the marathon Democratic primary campaign nears an end, Barack Obama's staff is on the verge of vindic...
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- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

She wins the popular vote to win in a real democracy but will take it to the convention.

It is not even close to being over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 05/25/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 339 fans permalink
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Watch for a potential concession by Hillary on June 3rd.

Face facts. It's Obama vs.McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/25/2008
- SuiginTou7 I'm a Fan of SuiginTou7 68 fans permalink
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Get your facts straight, dumba**. Michigan and forida doesn't count and if you include the cauaus states Obama's way ahead.Thank you for playing: Distort the Fact.


It's and she done-Deal with it -Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/25/2008
- vincie I'm a Fan of vincie 2 fans permalink

THATS RIGHT THE CAUCUS STATES AND STATES LIKE UTAH, S. CAROLINA, WYOMING, ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI, THESE STATES ARE NEVER GOING TO GO FOR DEMOCRATS. LOOK AT THE STATES THAT HILLARY WON, CALIF. PENNSYLVANIA, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, OHIO, FLORIDA, MICHIGAN, ALL STATES WE NEED TO WIN THE ELECTION. AND THE CAUCAUSES WERE A JOKE, ANYONE THAT WAS THERE SAID THEY WERE A JOKE. IN TEXAS THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY OBAMA PEOPLE VOTED TWICE OR MORE, AND FROM WHAT I HEARD THE OBAMA PEOPLE STOLD THE DELEGATES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/26/2008

If Hillary and Obama BOTH signed an Agreement that FL and MI would NOT count, then they both should abide by that Agreement.

Obama has. Hillary has not. Obama wins the popular vote.

I don't understand this FL and MI argument. It is a shame that things had to be like this, but this is the way it is. How is it fair to Obama to lead him to believe the votes in these 2 states would not count, only to change the rules mid-campaign. Surely you see how wrong that would be.

God help us if Hillary gets her way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 05/25/2008
- vincie I'm a Fan of vincie 2 fans permalink

CLINTON OR OBAMA NEVER SIGNED ANYTHING. ANOTHER OBAMA LIE. AND BY THE WAY, IN FLORIDA THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT THE ADVERTISEMENT UP WAS OBAMA. NONE OF THE OTHER DID AND CLINTON WON BY 500,000 VOTES. OBAMA AND HIS TEAM PLAYED A LOT OF DIRTY TRICKS, THEY BETER HOPE THEY DON'T COME BACK TO BITE THEM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/26/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Does anyone supporting Obama even know what happened during the holocaust? Have you ever heard of Anne Frank? Can you even find Amsterdam on a map?

I don't know how you can watch this video and not be moved. Equality is important. Ask anyone who doesn't have it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ9u2S1LltU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 05/25/2008

Sweetie, with respect, stop, we get you’re a troll, I have seen this post several times on several post and it is getting old. Try Hillaryclinton.com, am sure they will all eat it up! Or better yet, go to barackobama.com and get acquainted with the nominee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Sweetie? If Obama wants to get ANY votes, you might want to stop being so condescending. I clearly no more about the candidate than you do. That's why I feel comfortable talking about issues and not just name-calling.

I'm not sure how old it can be. I just made the video last night.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 05/25/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 339 fans permalink
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Why don't you explain it all to those of us that are internet connection challenged, i.e.,dial-up?

I'm giddy with excitement!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Anne Frank was jewish. She and her family had to hide out for their lives in an attic in a house in Amsterdam because jews, homosexuals and other undesirables were being killed in concentration camps. The reason that brutal killing was able to take place and continue for so long is because people didn't believe those humans were equal. Most didn't care if they lived or died. Others who did care were afraid of standing up for jews and homosexuals because they didn't want to be seen standing up for an unpopular position. Because of their apathy tens of thousands of homosexuals were killed along with millions of jews.

Today, jews in America have no fear of being treated unfairly thanks to access to equal protection under the law. However, if they happen to be gay and jewish, they are still treated without dignity and respect.

And Obama will not stand up for us. Would Obama have also turned over Anne Frank when the nazis came knocking? Hard to say really.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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I keep explaining. But it never gets posted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 05/25/2008

People, DO NOT reply to AnotherTry. This is a virus to your PC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 05/26/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Everyone knows the moderators would NEVER allow someone to spam the site with a virus. Come on now, at like an adult and let's have a debate.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 05/26/2008
- SethBLiNK I'm a Fan of SethBLiNK 38 fans permalink

Obama spends relatively little time discussing the specific needs of black people. Because he is running for President. Even making the effort he has to not play to much to blacks, many whites continue to fear his ties to Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson, etc.

Now, while he's running for president, you want him to burden himself further by being more vocal about Gay Rights. Good strategy for losing the election! I have no doubt that when it comes to gay rights, Obama is more progressive than any President we've ever had. Look at what he's said in black churches where tolerance to gays has not always been a strength. Look at what he said in his 2004 speech at the convention.

How about let's get him elected and then start busting his ass over the issues that you find most important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 05/27/2008

It certainly seems as if Obama feels that the problems of America have been her moral shortcomings, which is very much what Jimmy Carter thought. It seems as if Obama feels himself morally superior to those in politics today, much like Carter did thirty years ago. Obama, like Carter, invites Americans to trust him with the most beguiling claims of spiritual elevation. Obama, like Carter was an utter and complete Democrat partisan, although he promised to be just the opposite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 05/25/2008

Carter was one of the least respected presidents., in case you didn't know. When people compare Obama to Carter that is Not a compliment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 05/26/2008
- patch61 I'm a Fan of patch61 2 fans permalink

you know whats funny obama is aloud to get away with talking about jfk and sen.hillary clinton is not aloud to talk about rfk the kennedys well i see : that all this media crap has gone to far no wounder people get pissed off they the media push situations that they have no idea about whats funny is that even media can go to far and hurt peoples lives just like they want to because they all want to vote for obama ......see it is true even they are sexist i feel sorry for all the women who are jourlists at the news i just dont understand how you can not even stand up for yourseleves so they are forcing you to vote for obama i can not believe this. see sen.hillary clinton you are the victim of sexist through this whole campigan......if you watch all stations of the news dating back that is your proof.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 05/25/2008
- gregjones I'm a Fan of gregjones 16 fans permalink
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Black Americans, and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama. To imply that her reason for staying in the race is because anything can happen, then nonchalantly say that even Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, meaning therefore she should stay in, is not only pitifully diobolical but incredibly dangerous.

As I read some of the comments, I sense that some do not understand the true impact of her deadly insinuation. Keep in mind, when it was first announced that Obama was running for President, the initial concern in Black America was his safety. "Would some nut sniper him"? Obama had to hire secret service security right out of the gate.....why? Because of the true possibilty of some nut doing harm to him or his family.

Also, during the last 50 years, the people who have been assassinated have ALL been leaders who were working toward equality for ALL. John F., Robert and of course Dr. King. So just the WORD assassination brings to us not only an extreme fear but is a reminder of the incredibly sad loss to America, particularly Blacks, at the hands of the sick and wicked. For Hillary Clinton, a so-called leader, to insinuate, for WHATEVER reason what she did....is beyond disgusting. It subliminally sparks the hatred, bigotry and destruction that America has worked hard to overcome.

Greg Jones
www.Blacks4Barack.org
A Multi-Racial Org...Dedicated To Truth !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/25/2008

You wrote: 'and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama."

You are correct about that. I think Olbermann said it best when he called it Americas' "Unspoken fear."
I certainly hope America is beyond that act.

I will not vote for Obama for other reasons, but I do respect the work that he and his team have done, especially by involving younger voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 05/25/2008
- jean22 I'm a Fan of jean22 11 fans permalink

More people understand the danger AND purpose of her irresponsible and insensitive remarks than you think. Many are just reluctant to acknowledge that understanding publicly for a variety of reasons. Some simply don't want to believe she could be so as you put it diabolical, the average decent person just doesn't want to believe that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/25/2008

Its all in your mind. You're a nutcase, and you're your own worst enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/25/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 339 fans permalink
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Bigger, faster, stronger, smarter.
Winners.
Never let it be said that Obama can't assemble a rock-solid team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 05/25/2008

Or that a rock solid team couldn't assemble Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/25/2008
- bentenrai I'm a Fan of bentenrai 3 fans permalink

Point is: IT WORKED!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/25/2008

"Bigger, faster, stronger,.."

Oh please..now you're just gonna turn AnotherTry on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 05/26/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Obama may win the nomination, but he can't win the white house without the support of gays and lesbians and their families. If you don't support equality, you might as well support another holocaust. Their is no subsitute for equality. And there is no change without equality. And there is no hope without equality.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 05/25/2008

People, DO NOT reply to AnotherTry. This is a virus to your PC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 05/26/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Out organized means out worked.

Why not just say it? It wasn't magical fairy dust.

They worked harder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 05/25/2008
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This country owes a sincere debt of gratitude of this team that will help begin the turn around for our country. A single person cannot do it by themselves, but they can helpp keep us going in the right direction and focus our efforts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 05/25/2008
- amst I'm a Fan of amst 9 fans permalink

Geez, talk about sore losers. I can see from every angry post here that Hill has taught her followers well. Whine, whine whine!!!!! Claim media bias, sexism whatever, but DO continue to cry because your Hillary LOST!!!!

The media was kissing Hillary's ass for a very very long time. Even now, EVERYONE is walking on eggshells trying to give your precious Hillary a chance for a graceful exit. So, don't turn things around because you are losing Hillary. She's toast and it's time to make a serious decision and wake up to reality. Do you really really want McCain??? If so, go for it, but it's ALL on you should he win. I won't be strong armed or intimidated into changing my vote and/or opinion because YOU think Hillary is better.

As a matter of fact, if the shoe was on the other foot, I WOULD vote for Hillary. I may have lost respect for her, but she is STILL a whole hell of a lot better than McCain.

So, I encourage all you vile Obama haters to please think!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 05/25/2008

And sometimes Obama's organization is built spontaneously like the media. 100% liberal media is behind Obama. Is there a single big name liberal blog that is for Hillary? No. That is why Fox is the only Fair and Balanced media outlet for Hillary as Rove-Limbaugh-Hannity machine finds success for their Republican Party by promoting her and helping her stay in the race. And she starts praising Rove for the only reliable political analysis and makes his analysis her reason for staying in the race besides hatching with him the June assassination plot against Obama. We resumed attack on Hillary because she continued to prove a threat to Obama's life as well as Democratic Party's life. We love her supporters, though. We love you, Hillary supporters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Do you love gays as well? The why doesn't your candidate support equality?

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 05/25/2008

People, DO NOT reply to AnotherTry. This is a virus to your PC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 05/26/2008

WAIT A MINUTE.. The media has been overwhelmingly fair to the Clintons, simply if this whole process is was in REVERSE if it was Obama that is mathematically impossible to win the nomination , The media would be stripping him apart. FOX NEWS is NEVER FAIR AND NEVER balance, they are a conservative news channel they WANT CLINTON to be the nominee because they know they can beat her. They have truck loads of stategy to put out against her and they are upset because they have been loading there tanks with this for over a year, now they have to come up with a stategy to campaign against Obama, which they are lost on how they will go after him . The ONLY STATEGY THEY WILL USE IS THE RACISM FEAR CARD TO TRY TO DIVIDE THE COUNTRY ON RACIAL LINES. WHICH IS SICK ... So how dare you call FOX FAIR AND BALANCE , they are a lenching news channel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/25/2008
- lady49 I'm a Fan of lady49 8 fans permalink

The TRUE AXIS OF EVIL: ROVE--LIMBAUGH--HANNITY. Well, Rove has a congressional supoena that if he refuses to answer will go to jail!! Limbaugh is being investigated for encouraging voter fraud and Hannity is being investigated for 'race' baiting because of his slanderous documentaries.

GOOD KARMA: TRUTH WINS OUT IN THE END!!! The people in the Obama campaign made a decision early on to run a "different kind" of politics. Even when they could fight back by dishing out all the negative garbage against Senator Clinton, they refused to go negative.
EVEN NOW when her own words got her into so much trouble, Senator Obama is being gracious to her by saying that he 'takes her at her word'. Compare that to the way she treated him everytime the FOX press unfairly attacked Senator Obama.

The FOX network owned by Ruper Murdock is phony and full of #@**! We know their ratings have droppped, because Obamanation tuned them out and kept on canvassing.
Senator Clinton, cried in New Hamshire, lied in Ohio and cheated in Pennsylvania. Just because Bill and Hillary can no longer manipulate the press and the voters, doesn't mean that Senator Obama has not assembled a solid, well organized campaign. Senator Clinton is not a threat. She would have done so much better if she'd left Bill and Penn at home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 05/25/2008
- KMan1 I'm a Fan of KMan1 6 fans permalink

I find it interesting that there are still people out there suggesting that the media purposely did Obama some kind of favor. The media spent countless hours trying to bury Obama with the NAFTA, Rezco, bittergate, Wright and Ayers. All the while ignoring Clinton's associations to NAFTA, CAFTA, Rezco, "screw um," Wright, Peter Paul, Hsu...............Do you honestly believe the media was trying to do Obama any favors with that obviously one-sided coverage? For goodness sake please at least be honest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 05/25/2008
- NewArtz I'm a Fan of NewArtz 83 fans permalink
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There are two nationally organized political parties which have the political clout to elect a President. There are other parties which will also run candidates. Electability requires political parties to maintain unity during stress times. Neither Obama nor Hillary have electability without their ability to unify their party around their goal of being elected president.

This obvious point stated, maturity in voting is not a requirement placed upon the American voter. We can be as assanine as we want and elect the stupidest candidate simply by doing nothing or by voting to protest. It's a free country, and we can do a lot things to hurt ourselves, and no one can stop us but ourselves. If we make a point simply to vote against our best interests, then what's the point?

Democrats need to unite behind the democratic nominee this fall. It's the sane thing to do.

Stop the madness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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I can't support a candidatge that holds bigoted views about homosexuals and especially when his supporters deny that gays and lesbians died in the holocaust. This is not an inclusive campaign and it will fail.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 05/25/2008

People, DO NOT reply to AnotherTry. This is a virus to your PC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 05/26/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

This is so true. I live in a red state and Clinton completely ignored us. Obama had kids in high school recruiting other kids. When caucus day approached, there were emails explaining exactly how a caucus works and how to find out where to go. It was awesome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 05/25/2008

we picked up 4 supers on sat. they must be pissed about hillary's ass. remark. let's see that's 52 needed and counting. will be anxious to see what happens on tues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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If you don't support equality, you might as well support another holocaust. Obama's unconstitutional position on equality will lose him this election. Does he or his campaign care? I don't think so unless they change their position fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ9u2S1LltU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 05/25/2008
- eej I'm a Fan of eej 8 fans permalink

Who doesn't support equality? Stop making wild accusations. Obama has done nothing to hurt gays. He is the only populist, the only Democrat, in this race.

Are you hoping Hillary will come to the rescue? What has she done for gays lately?

BTW Obama's speciality as a lawyer is Constitutional law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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I must know more about your candidate than you do. Check out my video blog for his actual position against equality.


http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/25/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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huh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 05/25/2008
- sfsj I'm a Fan of sfsj permalink

I'm very happy to be raising our kids in San Francisco! Although straight, my husband and I share your belief in equality and civil rights. We are proud of San Francisco's stance on gay marriage and now California's approval of gay marriage -- may be more fight to come here, but it was certainly a day of celebrating for gay rights.

That said, I am an Obama supporter and cite that he is the ONLY candidate to regularly in his stump speech say "this is not a blue America or red America...... or gay America or straight America.... we are the United States of America." Barack, like Hillary, and all the other prior Dem candidates, were all for civil unions and not gay marriage. I disagreed with all of them, including Barack, on this issue. But I do believe the tide is turning and they will all realize it in short course. I don't know how long that will be, but so many are fighting the good fight for civil rights and it's going the right way with Massachussetts and now California. I think I read a survey of people under 30 -- it was like 80% of them believed in gay marriage rights!

You, and all those, with your sincerity and passion will go down in history as those who fought and achieved equality and civil rights for LGBT people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Without a leader, I'm afraid those gains can go away a lot easier than it took to make them.

And Obama is not a fighter for gays and lesbians. He was reluctant to sit down with the gay press. He refused to be photographed with YOUR mayor because he was afraid. I and other people who think like me don't go out and support people who show fear on such a fundamental issue. So that's why I am warning Obama to come out on the right side of this issue. Sharing a position with McCain is not a winning strategy. it is a sure fire loser. Ask Kerry if acting like a republican wins you votes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ9u2S1LltU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/25/2008

Wow. The analogies are becoming increasingly bizzare: Women's suffrage, civil rights, Zimbabwe and now . . . THE HOLOCAUST?! it would be funny, if it weren't so frighteningly insane.

I'm almost tempted to believe that you aren't really a Hillary supporter. If you were you should realize that this sort of unhinged hyperbole is definitely not helping your candidate's cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 05/25/2008
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 59 fans permalink
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Are you denying that gays and lesbians died in the holocaust??!! I was at a monoment commerating their death! Did you even watch the video or are you just hateful bigots?

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

This is a civil rights issue people. And the BLACK guy doesn't support. How's that for pathetic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 05/25/2008
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You have lost it. No one knows what you are talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 05/25/2008
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That's why I posted a video made at the Homomonument commerating the deaths of tens of thousands of gays and lesbians killed during the holocaust!! I'm standing at the site in the video!! Do Obama supporters REALLY think denying the holocaust is a winning strategy??

Wake up folks.

http://www.youtube.com/user/msbuch72

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 05/25/2008
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