Obama's Appalachia Problem Is Real, But Does It Matter

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First Posted: 05-26-08 11:59 AM   |   Updated: 06- 3-08 05:12 AM

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After months of pundits breaking the electorate into racial categories, the factor of geography is slowly being added to the mix. Obama's alleged problem with white voters is being modified; now the problem seems to be with working class voters in the Appalachian region.

Newsweek recently tried to quantify how race and geography could affect Obama in the fall. They note that while the Appalachian problem is more focused than simply a failure to connect with white working class voters, it is still a big problem:

Appalachia is a big place, encompassing 13 states: southwestern New York, western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, West Virginia, western Maryland, western Virginia, eastern Kentucky, eastern Tennessee, western North and South Carolina, and northern Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi. You cannot afford to lose all those states and still win in November. Other pollsters have suggested that the race factor is at least noticeable in a much wider swath of rural America, where 60 million voters reside. One recent Greenberg Quinlan Rosner poll of rural voters in battleground states showed that you are trailing McCain by 9 points (and that Clinton runs even with him). Dee Davis, president of a Kentucky-based advocacy group called the Center for Rural Strategies, points out in a recent article on Salon.com that in June 2004, John Kerry trailed George W. Bush by the same 9-point margin in the same rural battlegrounds.


Your mission is to not wind up like Kerry, who ended up losing the rural vote by 20 points. The "reality," writes Davis, "is that when Democratic candidates run competitively in rural America, they win national elections. And when they get creamed in rural America, they lose."

But Democrats to not need to achieve parity with John McCain among this voting bloc in order to win the election. And one analyst says Obama currently, "is clocking in where he needs to be":

Ruy Teixeira, a Democratic analyst of voting trends, wrote the book on the core issue in the endgame of the party's nomination fight. Its title is "America's Forgotten Majority: Why the White Working Class Still Matters."...


Al Gore lost working-class white voters by 17 percentage points in 2000, even while winning the national popular vote. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts lost them by 23 points in 2004, while running within three points of President Bush over all. Mr. Teixeira suggests that Mr. Obama can win the presidency if he comes within 10 to 12 percentage points of Mr. McCain with these voters, as Democratic candidates for the House did in the 2006 midterm election.

Still, what can be done to shore up support? Greg Sargent has an idea:

All this renewed talk about Appalachia reminds me that Obama privately promised John Edwards that he'd undertake a poverty tour in the general election. Why not take that tour, with Edwards at his side, right through the heart of Appalachia?

And Will Thomas reported on Sen. Jim Webb's intense interest and knowledge about the troubles faced by the Scot-Irish community that makes up the Appalachian population at issue. Webb has been repeatedly mentioned as a vice president for Obama, and could help to balance out support.

After months of pundits breaking the electorate into racial categories, the factor of geography is slowly being added to the mix. Obama's alleged problem with white voters is being modified; now the ...
After months of pundits breaking the electorate into racial categories, the factor of geography is slowly being added to the mix. Obama's alleged problem with white voters is being modified; now the ...
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- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 85 fans permalink

When is the last time a Democratic candidate won Appalachia? Don't fret about it. And if Clinton would have become the nominee, she would not have won it in November either. They just voted for her to cause Obama trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/26/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 185 fans permalink
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No, it won't matter. They won't be comfortable until Obama gets in office and proves all their prejudices wrong. Preaching and pleading with them won't do anything but make them more resentful, since it'll only be tagged as condescending. Harold Ford was wrong to put out an "open letter" chastising Obama for not visiting WV and KY. We don't know how many death threats he may have gotten. People are talking "strategy" while Obama is thinking "life insurance".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 05/26/2008
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As I recall, Harold Ford lost in 2006 when lots of Dems won. Why would anybody listen to him? Granted, he was the victim of a smear campaign, but still.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 05/26/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

rob, one of the sad things about prejudice is that it is never proven wrong, as those who harbor it can rationalize everything to themselves so that the facts appear to fit their prejudice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 05/26/2008
- DWP I'm a Fan of DWP 2 fans permalink

Send in Jim Webb. He has written a book about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 05/26/2008

The Applachia problem will matter in the general election. Obama should put Hillary on the ticket and she will take care of this. They love her in Appalachia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 05/26/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 185 fans permalink
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ummm, NO. . . . .No. . . . . no. . . . .and HELLZ Nahhhhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 05/26/2008
- ishok I'm a Fan of ishok 9 fans permalink

Are you being paid by the Clinton campaign...I've heard that they've hired people to do this kind of stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 05/26/2008

Well, if Clinton has in fact hired these people, I wonder when they got their last paycheck. I think it more likely they are on the Republican payroll. I don't think Clinton can afford them. She'd better get a bus...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/26/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 171 fans permalink

Appalachia folk can spot hypocrisy and double-dealing a mile away. They would see right through Clinton and never vote for her after recent events. Obama would be crazy to put her on the ticket. They detest her in appalachia now.

See I can make up whatever i want too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 05/26/2008

I suspect the preference goes like:

White Male > White Female > Black Male

Every vote Hillary got will go to McCain. Hillary won't help at all. Webb might.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/26/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 185 fans permalink
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BTW, black female comes after white female and before black male. That's the unspoken hierarchy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 05/26/2008
- RonNYC I'm a Fan of RonNYC 17 fans permalink
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Yes, definitely, put Hillary, The Assasinator, on the ticket.
We should reward for disgusting, veil threat with making her VP.
Why don't we put Huckabee as Secretary of State as well. They can continue with their awful remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 05/26/2008
- InDaZone I'm a Fan of InDaZone 2 fans permalink

He'll do fine when Hillary's starts campaigning for him.

She is going to campaign her heart out for him, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/26/2008

she needs to stay the hell away from him. if her behavior during this campaign is any example of how she would "work her heart out" for the nominee, please don't bother! obviously at this point she will do more harm than good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 05/26/2008
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Sure, while simultaneously undermining him. With friends like this, who needs enemies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 05/26/2008
- mln7905 I'm a Fan of mln7905 2 fans permalink

You assume she has a heart to campaign with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 05/26/2008
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