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First Posted: 05-27-08 08:38 AM   |   Updated: 06- 4-08 05:12 AM

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After more thank a year of battling, the last Democratic primary contests are one week from today on Tuesday, June 3rd. Barack Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod said Monday that Obama would lock up the nomination on that day.

"We're very close now," David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, told the Daily News. "When the primaries end, I think, we'll be where we need to be. ... We'll be at the number we need to claim the nomination."

During the next week, Obama and Clinton will face each other in three primaries where a total of 86 delegates are up for grabs: Puerto Rico on Sunday, followed by South Dakota and Montana on June 3, one week from Tuesday.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said in April that he wanted the race to end after the June 3rd primaries.

"We want the voters to have their say. That's over on June 3," Dean said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

The Clinton camp, has yet to be clear on when they'll end the fight. Just last week, Hillary said she would take the fight all the way to the Democratic National Convention in August. Rachel Maddow's HuffPost blog on the subject lays out how Clinton could keep pushing even after the public has finished weighing in on June 3rd.

No matter what day the race ends, the AP is already writing the eulogy for the Clinton era.

There's been a Clinton running for the White House or living in it for approximately forever.

Bill, it could be said, was born to run. Running became Hillary's destiny, too.
After more thank a year of battling, the last Democratic primary contests are one week from today on Tuesday, June 3rd. Barack Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod said Monday that Obama would lock...
After more thank a year of battling, the last Democratic primary contests are one week from today on Tuesday, June 3rd. Barack Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod said Monday that Obama would lock...
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- DonDavis I'm a Fan of DonDavis 2 fans permalink

Does Hillary’s ‘Drink’ Hold the Secret to Her Intentions?
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1876

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Coming up :
Sharonh & pupbayer : 2 bitter ladies who obviously need to get laid this weekend !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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By a MAN !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Are you SURE you're not really a man?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Discussion right now on Chris Matthews : Was Hillary the victim of sexism ?
Her camp feels "Yes" & that's why they're viciously defending her.
My take on this, as a woman :
I think Hillary & her fanatics (who she's got left) are NOT representative of True Feminists.
I think there are 2 "breeds" of women.
1. The types that feel like they've been trampled on by men all their lives & "have something to prove" about it - they're more brittle & have a harder time "relating" to men happily, easily, as equals, friends, partners.
2. The types that relate easily to men, have always felt equal to them, without an ax to grind about it, are friends & partners easily with men, enjoy the company men in the same way they do with women.

I think Hillary has surrounded herself with Group #1.

Group #2 (my group) doesn't feel a kinship with Hillary, in fact, au contraire, are quite disgusted & repulsed with her low, low brittle antics & with all this Sexism talk -
When you're strong & clear & happy as a woman, men make just as good friends as women.
You don't grind axes.

Obama is a good friend to this type of woman. & he's happy about it, not bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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To punctuate my own comment :
One more week of a brittle, bitter woman, by the grace of God -
Then womens' friend & best advocate, Obama, will finally be able to set his sights of defeating McCain which he will do : handily.
Onward HOPE !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Have you read the article by Ellen Goodman in which she "channels" Obama and the speech he should give on gender?

http://www.presstelegram.com/opinions/ci_9420064

When he addresses this issue I will take another look at him as womens' best advocate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 05/30/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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Liseworks, you forgot about me, group number 3, so apparently there are more "groups" than you think. This feminist relates easily to people, woman and man alike. However, she is required to protest pay inequity, lack of social programs for mother/baby, and oh what is the point. You have no idea what a true feminist is, and so cannot understand Ms. Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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I had a feeling a 3rd group (or several more) might pop up -
Talk to Obama - he's got a conscience - he knows how to be ethical & compassionate & he behaves in a way that follows those convictions - impt. quality, lacking in Hillary -
Obama 'll take care of you -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

I find it interesing, and telling, that you define your two types of women by how they relate to men. Feminism has nothing to do with men. It is about women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Nope.
It's about getting along with "all people" as strong, nurturing advocates of compassion tolerance.
With dogs & cats too.
You missed it - try again.
Then you too can be a "cool" strong-souled Feminist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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pupbayer - I mentioned the "men" part as it related to the "Sexism" issue -
I can talk womanhood on several other levels - I was following Hillary's (sad-assed) lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 05/30/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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Keep digging liseworks. Keep digging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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I dig you, even if you're divisive & bitter with me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 05/30/2008

I am witnessing the falling of the American empire..........I can't wait to see who falls. Will it be all cronies of the Bush legacy.......Will this be another "Watergate"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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ARGH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/30/2008
- juangault I'm a Fan of juangault 3 fans permalink

That's a nice picture of the three of them. There should be more. More Clinton's. Chelse needs to help Hillary become a grandmother. I think it would help Hillary get her values about what is important in order. They're set for life, and should take advantage of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Gosh, reading what Obama's supporters have to say isn't it a wonder why so many women think this whole campaign is so sexist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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Um... this was a reply, not a new post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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And another thing! I haven't seen anything in Hillary that makes me honestly think she's a better candidate than McCain, & despite what we're supposed to think, I tend to think he's more honest, even after caving to the peculiar right wing of his party. I do not see anything in her votes that makes her markedly different. Sorry, but flailing about with the 'fear card' isn't resonating. I want a great President, I want a person I can feel comfortable trusting. You can try to push the 'he's met with MUSLIMS!' logic, but I'm personally repulsed by your efforts. I'm glad he's willing to meet with people outside his own religion - the racism against Muslims is disgusting, and has been one of the major factors turning me decidedly against Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 05/30/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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In other words you want a madman at the helm of our ship during a most critical time that will require diplomacy, skill and intelligence. You want a man who calls his wife a c**t. Maybe she is and it is not that he called a name so much as the demonstration of the loss of control. The man has no self-control. He has exhibited this repeatedly in front of colleagues and the press. What on God's green earth could you say this is the man for us at this time. Ndw, people like you scare me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Obama's the answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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You seem to get scared by a lot of people.
Get to know Obama - he'll relax you.
You need it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/30/2008
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Let's be clear.

We don't want McCain

We want the only person who can beat McCain

The only person who has appeal in 50 states.

The only person who has coattails

The only person who can attract new voters, and independents, and republicans

The only person who can win. Him. That guy. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 05/31/2008
- DonDavis I'm a Fan of DonDavis 2 fans permalink

Legal Scholars: Clinton’s Fight for Florida/Michigan Akin to ‘Sybil Rights’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1856

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 05/30/2008

End? End? There is no end! The Billary's will be disrupt the inauguration with demonstrations and lawsuits. Don't you realize how she has been ROBBED of her destiny by the vast right wing, left leaning media, white men, black voter, misogynist, sexist, glass ceiling, conspiracy. End? It can never end until she is permanently installed as Sovereign Queen for Life. Just watch and learn from the Billary machine. Watch and be amazed at the audacity of evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

It will end in August at the convention. It's OK. It will all work out. It's just a process. Patience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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It will end early next week when all the SDs go : OBAMA !!
Yahooey !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 05/30/2008
- Alecki I'm a Fan of Alecki 2 fans permalink

Obama has to be examined thoroughly. His relationships with anti American, racists and anti Semitics are revealing character traits that are very unwelcoming.
The latest story pertaining to Reverend Pfleger should be a wake up call to Democrats.

Reverend Wright-Supports Louis Farrakhan
Reverend Pfleger supports Rev Wright
Both are anti Semitics and racist.
Both men are mentors and friends of Senator Obama.
Obama has mentored with both for over 20 years.
What does that make Obama?

Read about Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam rally held in Chicago a few months ago and you might think twice about supporting Obama. Twenty thousand members of the Nation of Islam attended supporting Obama.

Then there is the teachings of “Trinity United Church of Christ” 10 Black value system and Black Liberation Theology.

I dont' want to be affiliated with anyone that would be in this company.
I wouldn't want to be sitting with a group of KKK members either.
If Clinton was supporting the KKK and attending a church that supported the KKK would you really want to support her?
Obama should step down. He is an embarrassment to Democrats.

Why don't Democrats realize that Obama can not win this election?
He is having trouble with the following groups:
Whites
Catholics
Latinos
Swing States
Reagan Democrats
Women
Military Voters
Cubans
Jews
Evangelicals
The "big states"
Florida and Michigan

The African American and elitist vote is not a winning ticket.

McCain will be the nominee if Democrats don't wake up soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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He's also having trouble with white racists in West Virginia. Why did you leave them off your list?

Because I'm a white woman, & as far as I can tell, he's doing very well with many of us. Since that portion of your long post is a lie (sorry - 'misspeak') I can only assume the other bits are also 'exaggerations.'

Reagan Democrats? Oh, please. They're the so-called 'elitists' you're whining about.

Elitist is the new 'liberal,' isn't it? I mean, a stupid, meaningless phrase you can toss out, in defense of a woman who is the very definition of elite, against a man whose background would almost seem to make it impossible to slap that label upon his brow. But go ahead & continue to warp reality - it seems to be serving you ok so far. I think honesty and honor might serve you better, but that may not be such an accurate fit.

Why not just make The Leap, & call those of us who dislike Hillary & do not want her as our President 'latte-drinking' devils who drive BMWs? And add that we're sexist - even if we're women. (Hey, what do we know? Clearly, we're not the right women...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 05/30/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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Honestly, I don't even think you're a real woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/30/2008
- ObamAtomic I'm a Fan of ObamAtomic 168 fans permalink
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You like parroting much,latinos,cubans,Que Mierda Estas Hablando,SHUT UP,
neophyte Troll.Are you on steroids?or drinking Republican Kool Aid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 05/30/2008

Neocrat give it up already.poser,go back to the McCain camp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Silly you. You're obviously "trying to act" like a pair o' noid.
Silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/30/2008
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Alecki

a) I don't believe that you don't sit with KKK members
b) Clinton appears to be working hard to get the KKK vote
c) Obama is the best, most inspiring candidate we've had in at least 40 years. 75,000 people in Portland?
d) Here's the category of American person he wins among: VOTERS
He wins in primaries and caucuses, even against an entrenched "inevitable candidate"
He leads McCain in all the relevant polls
He puts more states in play than Clinton
He can bring independents and even republicans into the Democratic fold.

Oh, and e) McCain is already the NOMINEE, idiot

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/31/2008
- cadbury I'm a Fan of cadbury 4 fans permalink

There is really only one resolution to the current mess: Unity ticket!

Let's be clear that there have been plenty of slights (real and/or media-driven) on BOTH sides. But seriously folks, this was/is a political campaign, not the freakin'Mickey Mouse Club! And now it's time for Hillary and Barack to kiss and make up. In most primary election scenarios, pairing these two talented, historic candidates would be a no-brainer. It should be here as well. Please don't tell me that Bill is the problem. Or that the Clintons will somehow engineer President Obama's demise. Or that she is too evil for the pure (!) Obama, and will undermine his message. What sheer and utter nonsense!

Hillary has won at least half of the votes cast in 2008 and almost half of the delegates. To heal rifts in the party, she MUST be offered VP; it should be up to her to decide whether or not to accept. PERIOD!

Top campaign advisors, Dr. Dean, Senator Reid, and Speaker Pelosi: GET ON THE STICK AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN, SO WE CAN GET ON WITH IT AND WIN BIG IN NOVEMBER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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Please, no. I hope he picks someone who balances the ticket, not someone that so many moderate voters loathe. Personally, I'm hoping for John Edwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 05/30/2008
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Why should we burden the best candidate we've had in 20 years with a nasty, mendacious anchor who already wants him assassinated? Why activate the Republicans with their Hillary-hate? Why put the lie to Barack's politics of change by putting the personification of old style slice-and-dice politics on the ticket?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 05/31/2008
- johnwinner I'm a Fan of johnwinner 13 fans permalink

Primaries over? Doesn't mean anything to Hill and Bill they were never about any Democratic process. She has announced continuing her camapign beginning June 6, while a surrogate in Michigan has denounced the Democratic lawyer's formula for splitting delegates. This announces a battle to and at the convention. Obama will still win November, but it's all over for the Party. The superdelegates have shamed and ruined themselves by not endorsing before the Rules Committee. Clinton is a egoist and a racist, she will do everything she can to stop 'the black man' for the sake of her own sick delusions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 05/29/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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Clinton is not a racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 05/29/2008

I disagree, if you bring it up and use the n word, it's there, just because you use AA's to further your agenda doesn't mean you are not racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/29/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

Sharonh, you couldn't prove that by me. When every time you speak you are praising
the hard working white m an, and Barack's dream of becoming the president is
a fairytale, and Jesse Jackson only won a caucus, this is my favorite one

Bill doesn't mean anything racist by saying these things, she lied and said
to Tavis Smiley. In his heart he loves his niggas. Just not enough to have
one for a president. I can't wait until when these two crazy racist will have
to call him President Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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She just plays one on tv, if she's pandering to the 'hard workin' white' sector of her audience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 05/30/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Clinton is COMPLETELY about PROCESS. No votes have been cast. That is what a convention is for. No one wins until the convention. Let it go to the convention. Let the process run. Let the process work. Then we'll have a nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/29/2008
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 27 fans permalink

"The process" has gotten bogged down in trivia, spite, and dangerous comparisons.

Had Clinton been consistent about her concern to "include Michigan and Florida delegates", she might have persuaded some to have empathy with her complaints.

Most Democrats would like to see a conclusion to the primary, and are ready for the nominee to have as much time and support to tackle McCain.

Hillary's self--help math is getting old, as is her insistence that "only Hillary has the numbers to win the primary and beat McCain".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 05/29/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Well hell, why stop at the convention? I am sure the Clintons can cook up some formula where she can still stay in the race right up until Nov. Just as long as the person who out campaigned her loses. That's what it's all about for her now isn't it?

You Clintonites need to wake up and realize Hillary and Bill don't care about you. They would toss every last one of you off the cliff if it were a means to an end. These self loathing people care about one thing, power. The power to which the feel they are owed. The keys to the White House that she isn't going to get, but isn't going to let Obama have either. If she cared at all about retaking the White House she'd be saying when 2026 delegates is reached there will be a nominee. She won't though; she doesn't care about the party it's all about her and Bill, and none of you Hillary supporters matter to her either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 05/30/2008

No votes have been cast (other than the 40 million in the primary season).

You guys are delusional. We have the primaries for a reason. Who really expects to have the nominees wait until August to begin their GE campaign?

This is madness.

"This is SPARTA!!!" Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 05/30/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 142 fans permalink
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Please.
I want a happy Summer.
Please don't make me look at that scowling face, with those intense eyes, with the bags under them
Please don't make me have that pudgy, pointy finger poking at me across the screen & hear that screech on my TV anymore.
And the lies ? Oh, that's a whole other topic. I want to have a nice Friday evening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/30/2008

The Clintons will run this baby over the cliff. If that happens on June 3, so be it. August, so be it. Or November. They don't care. Whatever it takes to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/29/2008
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And why is "whatever it takes to win" wrong in a presidential election as important as this one? Do we really need people to be the candidate who dont want to win at any cost? The entire premise for being a candidate is that they MUST want it. MUST want it that bad that yes they are willing to work to the last minute for it. Anything short of that kind of commitment would surely lose the white house as the Dems have for the past 2 cycles. T

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 05/30/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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So where do you draw the line? "Whatever it takes to win" can also meaning killing all your opponents. When do you put the choice of the party before your own self-interest? They all think they're the best person. They don't get to decide that. We do, in accordance with the rules of each party. You do not get to break rules to get what you want, or you're acting in opposition to the very country and government you wish to lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 05/30/2008
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It's wrong because she is hurting the Democrats chances of winning. She needs to get out and salvage as much grace as she can or she will become a permanent joke rather than a historic figure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 05/31/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 150 fans permalink
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Love the typo..."After more thank a year of battling, the last Democratic primary contests are one week from today on Tuesday, June 3rd.".

When I think of it, "thank" (gawd, the universe, the ghost of Charlie Chaplin, something) sneaks into my mind, too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/29/2008

What Senator Clinton and her supporters fail to consider is what will happen if she takes this all the way to the convention and the by some miracle, the Superdelegates reverse the will of the people and give her the nomination and how will the people who voted for Senator Obama feel. Will they automatically flock to her and embrace her and give her their unconditional support and we’ll all live happily ever after. No. most of them (including me) will be so mad that they will not vote or worse vote for McCain.
They make a phony argument about how she has won most of the popular vote whereas in reality, there’s no way she can have the most votes, because she’s not counting the states where they had caucus election, and the system is the rules of democratic nomination is based on the total number of pledged and super delegates.
Everyone knew or should have known the rules before they entered in this contest. To try to change the metrics in the middle of the game is wrong.
If she really cares about the people, she should not let her ambitions get in the way of party unity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/29/2008
- johnwinner I'm a Fan of johnwinner 13 fans permalink

I support not voting if Hillary steals the nomination, but don't vote McCain - besides, McCain/ Clinton, two sides of the same coin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 05/29/2008
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 27 fans permalink

Not good enough for me. I have to vote for the only other person who can realistically win besides Hillary, so that she not only doesn't get my vote, but I also cancel out someone else's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 05/29/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 228 fans permalink
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You say they have a phony argument about winning popular vote (which is true--she has), and then buttress it with the superdelegate count. Popular vote is most votes cast. This is what a superdelegate does--they sniff the wind to see which way it is blowing and if they can get who they want in office without causing public riots. The delegates are not commited to support the people's vote, making this whole process undemocratic. Rules?
They're all politicians, even Obama. If you think he doesn't play dirty too, you are in for a rude awakening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 05/29/2008
- Ndw I'm a Fan of Ndw 10 fans permalink
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No, Sharon, it is not true. She can twist statistics, conveniently leaving out certain factors, to make it seem she has won more votes. But any fool can do that. As primaries are designed, as nominations are decided, Obama is head. Deal with it.

If you don't like it, write to Hillary & get her to introduce legislation to change it in the general election. Go pester the DNC about changing the way it's done - next time. You cannot change it in the middle of the season because you do not like the results. Sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/30/2008
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