McCain Has Rejected Goldwater Legacy, Says Granddaughter

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First Posted: 05-27-08 03:31 PM   |   Updated: 06- 4-08 05:12 AM

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John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago.

But Goldwater's own family members say that, if the family patriarch were alive today, he would be sour on McCain and shudder at the kind of conservatism that the current GOP nominee is proposing.

"I don't know if he would recognize the Republican Party today," Alison Goldwater Ross, a registered Democrat and granddaughter of the 1964 GOP presidential candidate, told The Huffington Post. "I'm sure if we were to raise his ashes from the Colorado River... he would be going, 'What? This is not my vision. This is not my party.'"

Such bewilderment, Ross offered, would extend to McCain, the man who took over Goldwater's seat in the Senate in 1987 and currently is the GOP standard-bearer. The two Arizonans clashed on several occasions during their political careers. Goldwater, as documented in "Pure Goldwater," a book by the Senator's son Barry Jr., was depressed and angered by McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. Later in his career, a rift developed between the two after McCain used Goldwater's name -- without his permission -- for fundraising purposes.

"My grandfather felt that he was deceived by McCain," she said. "Because he looked at McCain and said, here was this young guy who has a lot of potential in the Republican Party, who is coming through the ranks, and then he pulled something like this. My grandfather had to ask, 'Is this something I want to be close to?'"

That Goldwater's grandchild says McCain doesn't represent her grandfather's political tradition is not an insignificant revelation. McCain has, in the past, acknowledged a deep desire to impress the elder Goldwater and continue his conservative legacy. In his memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain said of his predecessor: "I admired him to the point of reverence, and I wanted him to like me.... He was usually cordial, just never as affectionate as I would have liked."

And on several occasions, McCain has deliberately taken steps to position himself as the inheritor of the Goldwater revolution. In the final speech of his "biography tour," McCain traveled to the historic Yavapai County Courthouse, a location where Goldwater started all his bids for office.

The reality, some observers claim, is that McCain and Goldwater are two contrasting breeds of Republicans. Ideologically, Matt Welch writes in "McCain: The Myth of a Maverick," the two have a fundamentally different idea about the role and scope of the federal government. But, on a broader level, the Republican Party as a whole has shifter drastically away from Goldwater's vision.

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"I think, at the end of my grandfather's career, first of all he would be looking at what state we are in today with what Bush has done, and I think he would be just incredibly appalled," said Ross. "I think his head would be spinning. How in the world did we get ourselves in this state? How did this happen? What went wrong? Where did this Republican Party go?"

On the issues of Iraq, women's rights, and the separation of church in state, Goldwater's granddaughter says the gulf between Barry and McCain is vast.

"I don't think my grandfather would ever pander to the religious right like McCain did. That would get him angrier than anything. He believed in the division between church and state, he fought that constantly. And these guys are getting in there... religion is a wonderful thing but it does not have any place or purpose in politics," she said. "My grandfather was for women's rights. The idea that my body is mine, and what I want to do with it, I will do with it... McCain isn't of that mindset."

So, whom would Goldwater support if he were alive today? Ross, whose dissatisfaction with McCain was first expressed on the website of BraveNewFilms, wouldn't say. But she herself is "leaning towards" Sen. Barack Obama, despite believing that Sen. Hillary Clinton has gotten the short end of the stick in terms of press treatment because of her gender.

"Hillary, you know, was a Goldwater girl. And she has this great tenacity," Ross said. "Unfortunately, she has been directed in some ways that haven't really worked for her campaign... I really like what Obama is representing. I like the fact that if he becomes our next president, the walls will come down; people around the world will view the U.S. as a more enlightened, open-minded country. It will be, overall, an extremely positive mood."

John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
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- research I'm a Fan of research 291 fans permalink

Conservatism has always been about the rich dominating the poor.

Spare me the GOP Re-branding propaganda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 05/28/2008
- Abycat I'm a Fan of Abycat 4 fans permalink

Here's an apple that hasn't fallen far from the tree. Goldwater never trusted McCain. When it comes to privacy and personal freedoms, McCain comes in a distant loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/28/2008

If Reagan and Goldwater both returned to life they would get behind McCain as Nancy Reagan did when she endorsed him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 05/28/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 55 fans permalink
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Reagan would do what ever Nancy told him to do because she was the president in his last years. The only reason Goldwater would get behind McCain would be to give him a boot in the ass and propel him under the bus.

Goldwater stood for ideals. McCain is a whore for power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/28/2008
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As I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate your grandfather's stance on numerous issues, Ms. Goldwater Ross. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 05/28/2008
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I consider myself a progressive but there are some things that I liked about the real conservatives. Real conservatives use to stand for conserving the environment like Teddy Roosevelt, believed in the separation of church and states like Goldwater, believed in limited government and military spending like Eisenhower and limited international intervention. The current Republican party has thrown all this aside. The problem is that the Republican party to differentiate itself from the Democratic party just made itself the contrarian party to the Democratic party. So the Democratic party is the party of environmental conservation, freedom of religion, noninterventionalist foreign policy and woman's rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 05/28/2008
- Jess27 I'm a Fan of Jess27 2 fans permalink

That is how I feel as well. I prefer some of the ideas of the old Republican party, but today the Republicans are disturbing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 05/28/2008
- stringer I'm a Fan of stringer 8 fans permalink

Not that it matters but Barry Goldwater was actually pro-choice. One because his daughter had an abortion which he fully supported her in, but two, more importantly, because he didn't see how it was any of government's business.

The point is Barry Goldwater would long ago have been horrified by what the Republican Party has become. Frankly I think Ronald Reagan was a step too far for him. Dubya would have been enough to have him rolling over in his grave. McCain well, can't see Goldwater crying but he might well have been screaming.

The Republicans don't even know what their own party is founded. Sad and pitiful if it weren't so dangerous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 05/28/2008
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Barry Goldwater was, after all, a conservative - and to this leftist his ideas of government and its relationship to the people didn't agree with how I see the its role. However, he was a principled man . . . something that can't possibly be said about McCain. I once had a law professor who said if he had to choose between someone with the right politics and no humanity and someone with humanity but the wrong politics, he'd chose the one with humanity. I'm inclined to think Barry had the humanity. McCain's nothing but an opportunist and an unprincipled, hateful man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 05/28/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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Goldwaters only fault I ever saw was being a fool and believing the Military / Industrial complex about Chineese Communist being in Vietnam. The Chineese were never there sold weapons but no troops.

Of course most Americans still don't know that the Vietnam People were all trying to get rid of the French and the Americans. They just wanted thier country back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 05/27/2008
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Surprise, surprise. But is that necessarily a bad thing for John McCain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/27/2008
- michie62 I'm a Fan of michie62 6 fans permalink
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am currently reading Pure Goldwater and McCain is no Goldwater. Goldwater was an environmentalist in the thirties, he loved the beauty of the western united states and in the book there is the letter he wrote to McCain after McCain used his name without permission to raise money. There also is transcript from the trial where Goldwater sued and won after a magazine called him insane. He was his own man, which McCain is definitely not. First having Hagee and Parsley, then denouncing them, having this private fundraiser with Bush there, but no pictures. It is too bad that Goldwater isn't here to give McCain some advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 05/27/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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Goldwater: "In your heart you know he's right."

McCain: "In you guts you know he's nuts."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 05/27/2008

Hi,

I recall hearing that Senator McCain is dependent upon the Bush family in order to finance his campaign.

Therefore, he will probably not disavow any of Bush's policy positions.

It will be interesting to see how he does when he debates Senator Obama.

His recent answers about why he is against the GI Bill don't look promising.

What do U think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 05/27/2008
- Jess27 I'm a Fan of Jess27 2 fans permalink

Hi,

I think your "What do U think?" questions are annoying.

What do U think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 05/28/2008

Why the undue hostility?

alfrede was just stating his opinion and trying to foster discussion.
If that question is his little rhetorical habit, why should it bother you so?

I think your lack of manners is annoying.

What do U think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 05/29/2008
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Goldwater himself was an honest and consistent conservative. Also unique. The pseudo-conservatives we've seen since his time have had nothing in common with him.

They're either outright hypocrites, like McCain, or nutters like the John Birch Society (still around, still scary).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/27/2008
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Goldwater was a significant part of 20th century politics. True conservatives reject the GOP and McCain.

It'll be interesting to see if "Paulistas" can pull off a similar maneuver at the GOP convention this year.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/49936

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/27/2008

I'm sure David Duke is hoping for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2008
- LawrenceL I'm a Fan of LawrenceL 4 fans permalink

If you want to read something interesting, dig-up Karl Hess' interview in Playboy, circa 1972.

Hess is the speechwriter who wrote Goldwater's famous "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" speech.

Hess *completely* left the GOP "reservation." He moved to West Virginia, learned to weld, and lived via bartering so he wouldn't have to pay taxes. He also spoke of taking psychedelics.

He is/was a brilliant guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/27/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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I wonder what the other nine grandchildren think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 05/27/2008
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