McCain Has Rejected Goldwater Legacy, Says Granddaughter

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First Posted: 05-27-08 03:31 PM   |   Updated: 06- 4-08 05:12 AM

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John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago.

But Goldwater's own family members say that, if the family patriarch were alive today, he would be sour on McCain and shudder at the kind of conservatism that the current GOP nominee is proposing.

"I don't know if he would recognize the Republican Party today," Alison Goldwater Ross, a registered Democrat and granddaughter of the 1964 GOP presidential candidate, told The Huffington Post. "I'm sure if we were to raise his ashes from the Colorado River... he would be going, 'What? This is not my vision. This is not my party.'"

Such bewilderment, Ross offered, would extend to McCain, the man who took over Goldwater's seat in the Senate in 1987 and currently is the GOP standard-bearer. The two Arizonans clashed on several occasions during their political careers. Goldwater, as documented in "Pure Goldwater," a book by the Senator's son Barry Jr., was depressed and angered by McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. Later in his career, a rift developed between the two after McCain used Goldwater's name -- without his permission -- for fundraising purposes.

"My grandfather felt that he was deceived by McCain," she said. "Because he looked at McCain and said, here was this young guy who has a lot of potential in the Republican Party, who is coming through the ranks, and then he pulled something like this. My grandfather had to ask, 'Is this something I want to be close to?'"

That Goldwater's grandchild says McCain doesn't represent her grandfather's political tradition is not an insignificant revelation. McCain has, in the past, acknowledged a deep desire to impress the elder Goldwater and continue his conservative legacy. In his memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain said of his predecessor: "I admired him to the point of reverence, and I wanted him to like me.... He was usually cordial, just never as affectionate as I would have liked."

And on several occasions, McCain has deliberately taken steps to position himself as the inheritor of the Goldwater revolution. In the final speech of his "biography tour," McCain traveled to the historic Yavapai County Courthouse, a location where Goldwater started all his bids for office.

The reality, some observers claim, is that McCain and Goldwater are two contrasting breeds of Republicans. Ideologically, Matt Welch writes in "McCain: The Myth of a Maverick," the two have a fundamentally different idea about the role and scope of the federal government. But, on a broader level, the Republican Party as a whole has shifter drastically away from Goldwater's vision.

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"I think, at the end of my grandfather's career, first of all he would be looking at what state we are in today with what Bush has done, and I think he would be just incredibly appalled," said Ross. "I think his head would be spinning. How in the world did we get ourselves in this state? How did this happen? What went wrong? Where did this Republican Party go?"

On the issues of Iraq, women's rights, and the separation of church in state, Goldwater's granddaughter says the gulf between Barry and McCain is vast.

"I don't think my grandfather would ever pander to the religious right like McCain did. That would get him angrier than anything. He believed in the division between church and state, he fought that constantly. And these guys are getting in there... religion is a wonderful thing but it does not have any place or purpose in politics," she said. "My grandfather was for women's rights. The idea that my body is mine, and what I want to do with it, I will do with it... McCain isn't of that mindset."

So, whom would Goldwater support if he were alive today? Ross, whose dissatisfaction with McCain was first expressed on the website of BraveNewFilms, wouldn't say. But she herself is "leaning towards" Sen. Barack Obama, despite believing that Sen. Hillary Clinton has gotten the short end of the stick in terms of press treatment because of her gender.

"Hillary, you know, was a Goldwater girl. And she has this great tenacity," Ross said. "Unfortunately, she has been directed in some ways that haven't really worked for her campaign... I really like what Obama is representing. I like the fact that if he becomes our next president, the walls will come down; people around the world will view the U.S. as a more enlightened, open-minded country. It will be, overall, an extremely positive mood."

John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
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- kfdan I'm a Fan of kfdan 22 fans permalink
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"I don't know if he would recognize the Republican Party today," Alison Goldwater Ross, a registered Democrat and granddaughter of the 1964 GOP presidential candidate, ... "
Ross is certainly correct about that. I did not support Goldwater but I believe he was a true patriot and that is something missing in today's party regulars in general. The GOP in particular has come under the sway of the neo-con salesmen and their supporters in government. The excuse for empire is only a sign that the Republic, what's left of it, is in serious trouble. I would hope that Republicans would repudiate the fascist tendencies that have become a regular part of the Bush administration! Goldwater certainly would!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

It's vital to know what Dukakis' niece feels about Obama. I want to know what Gerald Ford's nephew feels about McCain. How about John Kerry's sister-in-law? Please give us all this info. We need it to make an informed decision this November!
WHAT DOES ADLAI STEVENON'S GREAT GRANDSON THINK??? Please tell me, it's really important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/27/2008
- johnqeniac I'm a Fan of johnqeniac 6 fans permalink

The difference, as the commentator carefully explained, is that McCain has endlessly claimed to be a 'Goldwater Republican' - thus usurping the integrity of a truly principled man, since he has none of his own. I haven't heard Obama claiming the mantle of Dukakis, or Kerry or Stevenson. It's relevant in that it illustrates the corruption of a once honorable party and the weaseliness of McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

It's his grandaughter!! who cares? McCain also admires Teddy Roosevelt, is it important to find his relatives also??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

It's more relevant that BHO admired for 20 years his spiritual advisor, the Rev. Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 05/27/2008

It IS important. Knave. Republicans love to recite "Goldwater!" and "Reagan!" like some sort of religious talisman. THEY bring the issue up by doing so. Goldwater and Reagan were supposed to be genuine, the real deal. That's what today's politicians are trying to latch onto: a legitimacy they themselves do not have because they are lying, stinking, duplicitous weasels.

I'd never have voted for Goldwater, but I damn sure respected him for his convictions. He was not a fake. (Frankly I think Reagan is VASTLY overrated, in every regard.)

Your examples, Kundera -- Dukakis, Ford, Kerry -- are certainly not cited by anyone as pillars of political philosophy. Why not bring up Millard Fillmore or the long-dead Whig Party? Makes about as much sense as your post.

epu

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 05/27/2008
- willyloman I'm a Fan of willyloman 3 fans permalink

Hey there. i would like you guys to have a look at this new post about a McCain speech he just gave.

It is a really disturbing glimpse into McCain.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/the-sickness/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 05/27/2008
- orianna I'm a Fan of orianna 11 fans permalink

I recently watched Gladiator and thought that the young Ceasar appeasing the crowds to control Rome was so like Bush-McCain-Rove mentality. That's the war mongering, guns, Fundamentalists and loss end mental capacity that buys them votes. Now, seeing McCain crave and fall short in esteem from Goldwater, he is even more in keeping with the analogy. That makes Obama the Maximus, rising the crowds to ethical behavior and honor and McCain being dirty-handed and deadly as imaginable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 05/27/2008
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 33 fans permalink

Not surprising.

I read that Barry Goldwater didn't think much of McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 05/27/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 59 fans permalink
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He knew that PW Songbird was not a hero, but General Giap's protege.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/25/9190/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 05/28/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

There should be an entire debate devoted to relatives of past candidates. It's vital to know what Dukakis' niece feels about Obama. I want to know what Gerald Ford's nephew feels about McCain. How about John Kerry's sister-in-law? Please give us all this info. We need it to make an informed decision this November!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/27/2008

John McCain is simply another "opportunist." He's used his POW status from day one for personal financial and politiccal gain. He's not fit to command this great country. Many of us already know the real John McCain.

http://www.VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMcCain.com

More Americans will know the real McCain before November... Count on it.

Meet retired Colonel Earl Hopper. Hear what he has to say about the great American hero, John McCain.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_hopper_video.htm

"All's not gold that glitters."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 05/27/2008

Goldwater was awesome. His legacy is that he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that most of this country has no idea what is good for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 05/27/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

Goldwater was a decent and honest man. Two things McCain is not!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 05/27/2008

This is why there is such a connection with Hillary and McCain ---- the common denominator ---- philosophically as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 05/27/2008
- LawrenceL I'm a Fan of LawrenceL 3 fans permalink

Your post is one sentence of nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/27/2008
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"Goldwater had enough of a sense of right and wrong - or at least was pragmatic enough to see self-destruction when he saw it - to walk into the White House and tell Nixon "ENOUGH!"

I believe that, were he alive today, he would make that walk to the White House again... but this time carrying a shotgun!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/27/2008
- BADEN I'm a Fan of BADEN 9 fans permalink

Thank you and thank goodness.

My dad would concur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 05/27/2008
- lapdogs I'm a Fan of lapdogs 17 fans permalink
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So if John McCain touts himself as a "Goldwater Republican", what does that "RE"-make Hillary Clinton (all over again)?

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/WhoIs/story?id=3963326&page=1.
"Instead, Clinton began reaching for the political stars. At the age of 13, she helped canvass the south side of Chicago in the 1960 elections and later volunteered for Republican Barry Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election."

"My best friend and I became quote 'Goldwater Girls,' Clinton said. "We got to wear cowboy hats. We had a sash that said, you know, I voted AUH2O. I mean, it was really a lot of fun.".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/27/2008

Will you concede that was then, this is now? The Dems are the pay-as-you-go party, once a standard of conservatism. Republicans today are the party of war and endless debt. How conservative is that? Invade Iraq? Not real conservatives. Neo-cons are new cons and they have conned some people who think conservatism involves racial differences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 05/27/2008
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You are exactly correct. There are two camps of "republicans". The republicons and the republiconned (my family is included in the latter). They actually believe that these criminals are "good christian people". Give me a friggin break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2008
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It is ironic that in today's political world, Barry Goldwater would be a liberal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 05/27/2008

chuck hagel is todays goldwater. totally despised by the neo/cons. there is no place for true conservatives i was a registered conservative in n.y. from 1065 to 2002.. changed to independent. even the registered conservatives in n. y. are whacky.. they have become nothing more than prostitutes for the g.o.p. as a result there enrolled numbers are tanking..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/27/2008

Don't feel bad. There's no place for true progressives either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 05/27/2008
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