McCain Has Rejected Goldwater Legacy, Says Granddaughter

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First Posted: 05-27-08 03:31 PM   |   Updated: 06- 4-08 05:12 AM

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John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago.

But Goldwater's own family members say that, if the family patriarch were alive today, he would be sour on McCain and shudder at the kind of conservatism that the current GOP nominee is proposing.

"I don't know if he would recognize the Republican Party today," Alison Goldwater Ross, a registered Democrat and granddaughter of the 1964 GOP presidential candidate, told The Huffington Post. "I'm sure if we were to raise his ashes from the Colorado River... he would be going, 'What? This is not my vision. This is not my party.'"

Such bewilderment, Ross offered, would extend to McCain, the man who took over Goldwater's seat in the Senate in 1987 and currently is the GOP standard-bearer. The two Arizonans clashed on several occasions during their political careers. Goldwater, as documented in "Pure Goldwater," a book by the Senator's son Barry Jr., was depressed and angered by McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. Later in his career, a rift developed between the two after McCain used Goldwater's name -- without his permission -- for fundraising purposes.

"My grandfather felt that he was deceived by McCain," she said. "Because he looked at McCain and said, here was this young guy who has a lot of potential in the Republican Party, who is coming through the ranks, and then he pulled something like this. My grandfather had to ask, 'Is this something I want to be close to?'"

That Goldwater's grandchild says McCain doesn't represent her grandfather's political tradition is not an insignificant revelation. McCain has, in the past, acknowledged a deep desire to impress the elder Goldwater and continue his conservative legacy. In his memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain said of his predecessor: "I admired him to the point of reverence, and I wanted him to like me.... He was usually cordial, just never as affectionate as I would have liked."

And on several occasions, McCain has deliberately taken steps to position himself as the inheritor of the Goldwater revolution. In the final speech of his "biography tour," McCain traveled to the historic Yavapai County Courthouse, a location where Goldwater started all his bids for office.

The reality, some observers claim, is that McCain and Goldwater are two contrasting breeds of Republicans. Ideologically, Matt Welch writes in "McCain: The Myth of a Maverick," the two have a fundamentally different idea about the role and scope of the federal government. But, on a broader level, the Republican Party as a whole has shifter drastically away from Goldwater's vision.

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"I think, at the end of my grandfather's career, first of all he would be looking at what state we are in today with what Bush has done, and I think he would be just incredibly appalled," said Ross. "I think his head would be spinning. How in the world did we get ourselves in this state? How did this happen? What went wrong? Where did this Republican Party go?"

On the issues of Iraq, women's rights, and the separation of church in state, Goldwater's granddaughter says the gulf between Barry and McCain is vast.

"I don't think my grandfather would ever pander to the religious right like McCain did. That would get him angrier than anything. He believed in the division between church and state, he fought that constantly. And these guys are getting in there... religion is a wonderful thing but it does not have any place or purpose in politics," she said. "My grandfather was for women's rights. The idea that my body is mine, and what I want to do with it, I will do with it... McCain isn't of that mindset."

So, whom would Goldwater support if he were alive today? Ross, whose dissatisfaction with McCain was first expressed on the website of BraveNewFilms, wouldn't say. But she herself is "leaning towards" Sen. Barack Obama, despite believing that Sen. Hillary Clinton has gotten the short end of the stick in terms of press treatment because of her gender.

"Hillary, you know, was a Goldwater girl. And she has this great tenacity," Ross said. "Unfortunately, she has been directed in some ways that haven't really worked for her campaign... I really like what Obama is representing. I like the fact that if he becomes our next president, the walls will come down; people around the world will view the U.S. as a more enlightened, open-minded country. It will be, overall, an extremely positive mood."

John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
John McCain is prone to tout himself as a "Goldwater Republican," the inheritor of a party and ideology that his Senate predecessor from Arizona, Barry Goldwater, helped shape decades ago. But Goldwa...
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As I recall, didn't Barry Goldwater Sr. publicly state that his disgust with the Republicans was such that he voted for Clinton in '92 and '96?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/27/2008

Goldwater had enough of a sense of right and wrong - or at least was pragmatic enough to see self-destruction when he saw it - to walk into the White House and tell Nixon "ENOUGH!"

So far NO Republican has been willing to hold Bush accountable for HIS misdeeds.

Au contraire - McCain has fully embraced the amoral President that slimed HIM to win the 2000 nomination­....

Hagel has been one of the few to take a stand, albeit limited - Specter says the right thing but ultimately capitulate­s.... Does ANYONE in the Republican Party have ANY sense of moral outrage? Does ANY Republican take their oath of office - to preserve and protect the Constitution - seriously?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 05/27/2008

This is the primary problem with party loyalty. Signing on to an organization whose first goal is self-preservation, even if it's at the expense of damaging the country, has forced many a politician to make self-compromising decisions. The fact that Hagel or Specter don't get in the faces of their political colleagues to demand that they take stands which might be contrary to their party's position underscores this conflict.

Washington wanted no political parties and he watched with disgust as the Whigs and Federalists set the table for contemporary political organizations. If you're a Republicant in 2008 this means that you are anti-choice, pro-war, anti-tax (excepting the lower classes, of course), pro-religion (but only 'approved' religions), and xenophobic with a stunted intellectual curiosity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 05/27/2008

Privately, Barry Goldwater thought John McCain rather dim witted, yet supported him out of respect for his father. I recently saw a discusssion by Barry Goldwater Jr. and John Dean on Book TV while speaking to the Heritage Foundation about a newly released book about Barry Goldwater Senior, whom John Dean started co-writing with before he died. What came up in the discussion is both Goldwaters are not impressed with McCain, but Jr. will support him for the sake of the party, I ask how about the sake of the nation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 05/27/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 167 fans permalink

Good. The more McCain moves to the left on issues like the environment and promotes perpetual foreign military operations, the more the paleoconservative Republicans, especially west of the Mississippi, will vote for Bob Barr. It's going to be hard to run as a big-government, authoritarian Republican with a fairly viable Libertarian in the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/27/2008
- dapperd72 I'm a Fan of dapperd72 9 fans permalink
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Bob Barr's problem running as a Libertarian is that traditional Libertarians apparently will abandon the party in droves to register as Republicans & vote for Ron Paul as a write-in candidate. I watched the bulk of the Libertarian Party convention on C-SPAN this past weekend & saw a female Presidential contender explain her disgust with the events she witnessed there with all the support for Barr. Apparently he wants to take over control of the party to incorporate his own anti-choice (reproductive rights) and pro-drug war views, which are both antithetical to bona fide Libertarian positions. This explains why Jesse Ventura told Larry King last week that Barr's not a Libertarian. Ventura calls himself fiscally conservative & socially liberal, while Barr's so-called "pro-life" position makes a mockery of the founding fathers' views of Libertarian philosophy. Whether or not his campaign succeeds in detracting from McCain's votes due to the former's hard-right positions may be outweighed by Clinton supporters who'd rather commit political suicide by voting for McCain than abide by their proclaimed principles by supporting Obama in the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 05/27/2008
- jeffp26 I'm a Fan of jeffp26 26 fans permalink
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Even if this is true, tomorrow he will embrace it.

Then the day after, reject and denounce it.

King size flip flops for this old man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 05/27/2008
- rcampbell I'm a Fan of rcampbell 9 fans permalink

What irony. Goldwater's grandaughter is a registered Democrat and his 1964 running mate, William Miller's daughter, Stephanie Miller hosts a show on Air America. How far the GOP has fallen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/27/2008
- omaro I'm a Fan of omaro 3 fans permalink

Lovely, isn't it? and Julie Nixon Eisenhower is supporting Obama, as is Ron Reagan, Jr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

Please tell me who Dukakis's niece is supporting?? I need to know. It will help me make my decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 05/27/2008
- cardtosser I'm a Fan of cardtosser 6 fans permalink
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I didn't like Goldwater, because I thought he would only draw the US deeper into a regional conflict by escalating the Vietnam war, but I had to temper my view of him as he adopted his last libertarian cause: gay rights.

"At 85, after a life in politics spanning five decades (he retired from the Senate in 1987), Mr. Conservative has found himself an unlikely new career: as a gay rights activist. While that's not his sole pursuit – he returned to Capitol Hill yesterday to testify in favor of scenic overflights of the Grand Canyon – in recent years he's championed homosexuals serving in the military and has worked locally to stop businesses in Phoenix from hiring on the basis of sexual orientation. This month he signed on as honorary co-chairman of a drive to pass a federal law preventing job discrimination against homosexuals. The effort, dubbed Americans Against Discrimination, is being spearheaded by the Human Rights Campaign Fund, the influential gay lobbying organization.

"The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they're gay," Goldwater asserts. "You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that's what brings me into it."

Washington Post, July 28, 1994.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

the irony is that LBJ drew us further into JFK's war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/27/2008
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We are so happy that you have chosen this time and place to humiliate yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 05/28/2008
- rgersmrk I'm a Fan of rgersmrk 3 fans permalink
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The funny thing is Goldwater is more liberal than some democrats these days. When Reagen accused Goldwater of being too liberal back in the 80's you knew where the Republican and the American public was heading. I guess the 60's generation went from the raidcal left to the raidcal right in a 20 year period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 05/27/2008
- apoyo I'm a Fan of apoyo 40 fans permalink

Does someone have an explanation about what a conservative is?

It seems to me a conservative would want to conserve.
Conserve money.
Conserve life.
Conserve energy.
Conserve health.
Conserve dignity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 05/27/2008
- Kundera I'm a Fan of Kundera 24 fans permalink

Conserve freedom.

Conserve life: anti abortion

Conserve the right to defend oneself: 2nd Amendment

Conserve choice: school choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 05/27/2008
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Does someone have an explanation about what a conservative is?

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward." Franklin D. Roosevelt

Conservatism makes no poetry, has no invention; it is all memory." R.W. Emerson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 05/28/2008
- wm1066 I'm a Fan of wm1066 33 fans permalink
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I have spent a good deal of time in Arizona and the respect Goldwater has in that state is Legion, McCain is another matter, he isn't even liked by Republicans.
When I was quite young my dad had me hand out leaflets for Goldwater. I got to see political hate early in life. And even though I am Progressive now I always liked Goldwater, he was the real deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 05/27/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 111 fans permalink

he does share something with goldwater. bomb bomb bomb nuke them.

ok folks here it is these repubs live on a different planet as we do.

to them wars are designed to make money. blood for money is no big deal to these folks.

they are bottom feeders and new souls still learning something called compassion.

give them a few lives and they will be progressives. takes time to learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/27/2008
- TroubleNYC I'm a Fan of TroubleNYC 9 fans permalink
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The closest thing to a Goldwater Republican today is Ron Paul. Goldwater was pretty much a libertarian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 05/27/2008
- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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He's not a Goldwater Republican?

Good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 05/27/2008
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hopefully McLame will not air a goldwater style "atom bomb" political commercial during the presidential election-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 05/27/2008

That ad was actually LBJ's not Goldwaters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 05/27/2008
- izAriver I'm a Fan of izAriver 27 fans permalink

I know what you mean. These labels mean nothing. conservative or liberal is just a divisive tool. Lets all just come together and rid ourselves of all the bushit in our government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 05/27/2008
- wisechild I'm a Fan of wisechild 6 fans permalink

I was never a Goldwater republican, aside from being too young, I was also more indy than anything but I was a big fan of Sen Goldwater.

I admired him for his humor, honesty and integrity.

That said, McCain has little resemblance to that man. And I would suspect if Sen. Goldwater were still with us, he would not be a big fan of McCain and would have some choice comments to make about his lack of knowledge and politics.

I don't recognize today's repub party and I cannot point to any republicans I admire the way I did Dirkson, Rockeller, Javits, Goldwater and some of the others I remember when I was growing up.

Things have definitely changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 05/27/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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He was the finest of Americans. He could have a heated debate with someone and at the end of the day still be friends, so I have been told.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/27/2008
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