Warren Jeffs Kissing And Cuddling Underage Brides Pictures Introduced As Evidence (PHOTOS)

SAN ANGELO, Texas -- Shocking new photographs show polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs holding and kissing two different young girls in wedding-like photos. [scroll for more]

The images, dated July 2006 and January 2005, were entered into evidence last Friday by the defense in the custody battle over a 1-week-old baby, the Deseret News reported. The case was sparked by an April 3 raid of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound in Eldorado, Texas.

In one set of photos Jeffs appears with a girl named girl named Loretta under the label of "First Anniversary" with a date of Jan. 26, 2005. The second set show him and a girl named Merrianne and are dated July 27, 2006.

The Texas Child Protective Services lawyers would not reveal how they obtained the photos, but are using them to allege the culture at the compound is abusive, and forces young girls to become child brides, the Deseret News reported.

FOX News' Policy is Not to Identify Possible Underage Victims of Sexual Crimes.

Dan Jessop, the father of the baby at the center of this particular case, told reporters on Friday the photos are "shocking."

"You see far worse, immoral, disgusting, gross things than a girl kissing a man in the streets of your own community," said Jessop, according to the newspaper. "And you and I don't know if the state of Texas fabricated that."

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The Deseret News and Dallas Morning News, both of which have more on the story, report that one of the girls in the photos was 12.

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The Smoking Gun first had the Warren Jeffs kissing photos.

Comments

[darcy]

I'm gonna puke.

[fincenMIB]

Wait until they try to legalize it;

AUB or Apostolic United Brethren on Polygamy



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tpY2oTFFWks

[amazinggrace]

Sickening, just sickening. These are children.

[fincenMIB]

Amen, I agree!

On May 8th however, there was a Polygamy Summit in Utah.

The Kingstons while nice and gentile here, believe in the "pure seed" doctrine! Progency by INCEST. Kingston's marry Kingstons! And lets never forget Marry Ann beat unconious in 1999 after she fled her marriage to her uncle as his 15th wife, she being 16. Beat by her father, for not yielding to her Uncle.

They weren't at the summit to answer such tough questions!

Try a GOOGLE on "Mary Ann Kingston" & Utah

Kingston's Heidi Foster on Polygamy Life in Utah



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZ_NMTj3Ro

[JohnPone]

I see a reality TV show in the offing!

[fincenMIB]

Look me up, I have the cast of players or actors! They don't get better than this, they are real life polygamist!

Ann Wilder Old Testament Polygamy Defense



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sLV5hs_vPnc

[FalconerHK]

I find it disturbing that religious institutions get free reign to decide what is or is not the appropriate age for marriage. You have to be 18 to vote, stand trial as an adult, join the military, etc. But since these marriages are men marrying girls it must be ok, right? Look at the states that allow child brides and ask where the laws originated. My guess would be religious tradition.

You can't have it both ways. Statutory rape is defined as an adult (18+ years old) having sex with a minor (17 or under). No amount of holy water or magic underwear can alter the plain reality of what is actually happening. How many people are in prison and/or registered sex offenders for the same crime? Guess they should have founded a CULT first and made up their own rules.

In any other situation Jeffs would have been in prison a long time ago for serial child rape. Instead, there are people protesting Texas' actions in removing the children as an assault on religious freedom.

Where is the women's movement in all of this? They should be jumping on this as an example of the repression and exploitation of girls in the name of religion - it's a fantastic, obvious, newsworthy opportunity. Disgusting. Any anyone actually defending the photos or offering any explanation besides the obvious need to take a good look in the mirror as to why they think this sort of behavior is appropriate.

[fincenMIB]

I think Arizona Legislator David Lujan Agrees with you, I agree with him;

Legislator David Lujan Crusades Arizona Child Bigamy Bill



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M4rzfW9W_eE

May 8th 2008 Polygamy Summit

[rabprevent]

THIS IS DISGUSTING, THESE ARE CHILDREN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!

[fincenMIB]

Stay Angry! There is a movement to legalize it, at the same time that crusaders are trying to end it!

Polygamist Concerned About Child Bigamy Bill



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5RiZ9ffQk

[JJK]

While I'm not a Mormon and while I frankly find a lot of Mormon beliefs a little weird and even silly, I am very uncomfortable with the religious bigotry that is being vented in this thread. First of all, the FLDS is not a legitimate or recognized part of the Mormon Church (using the jargon of the Catholic Church, the FLDS is regarded by Mormons as an "heretical sect" ). Second, Polygamy has been disowned and banned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Nearly all religions have "dirty secrets" (or not so "secrets") in their histories. Polygamy and Racism are unfortunately part of Mormonism's saga, and the legitimate Mormon Church and its dedicated faithful are still paying dearly for those sins today in the court of public opinion.

William Jeffs is in jail, where he belongs. I hope that the Texas authorities turn their attention and energies away from posting pictures of minor children and towards establishing the DNA and other evidence of statutory rape that will legally enable them to shut down the FLDS operation.

[cobobs]

IMHO polygamy is not the problem here and never should be. If three or more consenting ADULTS decide to form a family, I happen to think it is nobody's business, and I think laws banning polygamy are wrong. However, it is quite another thing imposing marriage and sex on children.

[jesusquintana]

I don't like bigotry either, JJK. But a couple of your assertions need to be corrected.

The FLDS regard mainstream Mormons as a heretical sect, and rightly so. It was the mainstream Mormons who abandoned polygamy as a matter of political expedience (so Utah could be admitted to the U.S.) - except they didn't really abandon it.

Polygamy continues to be a belief of the mainstream Mormon faith. In cases where a wife has died, they allow a man to be sealed in the temple to more than one woman. They continue the teaching that polygamy will be practiced in heaven, aka "the celestial kingdom."

That is, unless they've changed doctrine again. They do it every couple of years when something like this comes to light. Defenders of the Mormon faith on this thread make me laugh - it's like shooting fish in a barrel pointing out that FLDS and LDS are one and the same. The FLDS just have the "courage" to stick to the original teachings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young et al.

[MelKnee]

Thank you for pointing this out so eloquently.

I don't support these child-bride marriages one bit, but I have been looking at this situation through a "freedom of religion" lens. What makes one religion more valid than another?

[kiddub]

I have many friends who are LDS that all denounce polygamy. Like all sects of christianity, there are divisions within this particular sect. Some Anglicans believe that homosexuality is a sin, others firmly believe that gays should be free to marry within the Anglican church. All that being said, I do not believe, from what I understand of the LDS faith that they in any way promote or support polygamy. My friends are ashamed of Jeffs and the FLDS church because they are tarred with the same filthy brush.

[Redrover666]

That's very interesting. While you're shooting fish in a barrel, could you take a moment or two to provide an impartial source to support your silly, bigoted remarks.

[JimMan35]

The mainstream Mormons have not changed their doctrine toward polygamy. It is still found in their Doctrine & Covenants, Section 132.

Link to section: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132

Applicable verses:

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.
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64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

[fincenMIB]

A well researched answer. Warren Jeffs uses the Book of Mormon 1976 or older per the revisions to the doctrine of the Negro race. The revere Brigham Young and Joseph Smith and live the literal law.

I have 550 of Warren Jeffs audios and 15 of the FLDS theology books. Any one who rejects the similiarities is doing so blindly without access to their copyrighted text!

There are a half dozen major differences, but they consider themselves the true Mormons and the LDS Church is the Apostasy Church, not them. They use the discourses and old text no longer found in Ward libraries. College libraries, yes!

The Text;
Text From "In Light & Truth" Chapter 1 on polygamy

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRj-et8Cl4

The Marriage Covenant Text http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qTVG0-vN4FY

Entering into Marriage Text http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nQQQN7XDMhI

Listen to Warrens source in his words;

Warren Jeffs Explaining POLYGAMY http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fbudqrmFSDs
Warren Jeffs #2 Cont. on Polygamy http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RkXA2JxGrJw
Warren Jeffs #3 Continued on Polygamy http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzXCdehMI4

[splendidbeast]

Doesn't every sect of religion think that they are the legitimate true believers, and that every other sect has it wrong? Be they Catholic or Protestant Christians, Shea or Sunni Muslims, Orthodox or Conservative Jews, and on and on... . Don't get me wrong I know that secular thinkers can be the same way, visa vie Fascists vs Communists vs Capitalists and on and on... I believe that as human beings, we tend to view god/politics through the filter of our own experiences. We cant help it. But the problems arise in this world when one group thinks that their path is the only way, and that those who follow other paths are less than themselves for not believing the same way that they themselves do. I guess you would say fundamentalists. Another problem is that though these fundamentalists are a usually a vocal minority, they end up taking power because of an apathetic majority. Peace, if you want it, can only occur when people begin to accept that we have far more in common with each other than we do not. And when the apathetic majority stops allowing themselves be led into wars by the vocal minority.

[djcateyez]

Yuck. Now I have the creeps!

[Retrofuturistic]

Warren Jeffs is a religious predator, the worst kind, and this country is full of them. The FLDS is an example of mainstream religion brought to its logical conclusion. The goals of the FLDS patriarchs are the same as the goals of other religious patriarchs--- Dobson, Falwell, Rod Parsley, the Pope, the Taliban. Profit and control of sex. The bottom line of ALL religion is control. By men. Over women and children.

But it's only when patriarchy is taken to the extreme like this, that people can see it. In our culture, where it's much more subtle, it's harder for the women to see what's being done to them, especially when so many of us buy the Cinderella story. Then, when the handsome prince doesn't live up to his publicity, it's very devastating.

This country should be sick, by this time, of seeing religion used to justify all kinds of predation--- including war.

[KarateKid]

Well, what do you know.....there are some thinking people around here, not moronic hypocrites with a lynch mob mentality.

If some of these creeps knew what it was like to be the target of a lynch mob, maybe they'd appreciate the fact that we are a nation of LAWS, that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, they came after my people, and it wasn't pleasant though we were completely innocent. Now, they are also doing it to Arabs and Muslims. The guilty until proven innocent, mob mentality is alive and well, even in Huffington Post.

[Driver125]

Wow! It looks just like Little House on the Prarie.....if your husband were your father, that is...

[ICanHasDemocracy]

Ick, the squick factor just went to +100. that is just creepy and sick.

[musselmanm]

I hope some Criminal resident in the same location as Jeffs forces himself on Jeffs before he carries out the execution.

[sharonh]

Double hope.

[javagirl322]

triple hope.

[hmmmmmer]

This sect flaunts their lawlessness and harbors pedophiles and yet the court system will do nothing about it, giving them free reign to do as they like. The mothers look like they are from another planet, and the fact the male children are in short supply, sending those kids back to this hell is beyond child abuse.

[fincenMIB]

Ross Chatwin called Warren Jeffs Hitler in his Press Conference on 1-23-04

Now he is talking about secrets and scrutny at a Polygamy Summit on 5-8-08

Ross Chatwin ex FLDS Polygamist Talks of Secrets



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-kd2ykCMq0M

[levibatgirl]

One of those investigative shows talked about this last night. (48 Hours?) The person they were interviewing, maybe a detective or an expert on these cults said in his opinion they operate the way criminals operate.

These creeps raise one red flag after another and the trolls don't see it at all. Not one bit surprising.

[WFV]

What a disgusting, horrible man. And to hide these crimes behind religion.

I hope he makes lots of 'friends' in prison.

[willymanet]

I can now why it will be suicidal for McCain to choose Rommy as a VP, the republicans would want these stories to remain in the public view because of Rommy's membership with the FLDS.

It will also negate any ad or argument they might have against Obama;s former pastor. Here Rommy's church is committing actual crime and opposition researchers will do a good job in digging out almost all these instances and others not yet in the public domain.

I will even suggest that McCain do not allow Rommy to stump or campaign for him in any public way; because the guilt by association pendulum swings both ways.

Giving the current economy crises in this country, Rommy with his business background and executive resume was one of the few qualified candidate on both side of the isle to run for President in 2008; but issues and associations like these would have sink him real fast and it is very possible that this is why he did not clinch his party’s nomination. He was more qualified than McCain and more close to the ideas of the Republican base than McCain. Though, with all these scandals and his association with FLDS, it would be very difficult if not near impossible to sell his candidacy to the Republican Evangelical base.

[tschlak]

Romney is not a member of the FLDS. He's a member of the LDS (mainstream Mormon) church. Please get your facts right.

Eric Rudolph was a Christian (in fact, he says he's a Catholic). Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. Jim Jones was a Christian minister. Following your logic, you want to define all Christians by them and their morally indefensible actions?

[craneman]

Any and all christian sects are all based on Flim Flam, hocus pocus, & smoke and mirrors.

[helonias]

They were Pharisees and false prophets

[CitizenFace]

This is not the first time I've seen someone mistakingly refer to Romney as a member of the FLDS. The confusion indicates to me that, mainstream or not, Romney could be damaged by the ongoing FLDS saga. It doesn't matter whether he's LDS or FLDS, what matters is what people think.

Most Americans would not judge Christians based on the morally indefensible actions of a few Christians, but I think that's primarily because most Americans are Christian. Your logic is infallible, so of course you're utterly wrong.

[JJK]

Whoa, are posters on this board now adding religious bigotry to rampant sexism? Gov. Romney is not a member of nor is he affiliated with the FLDS. He is a Mormon, a religion that is in "good standing" with all but bigots. As for the question of the impact of Romney's Mormonism on the Republican Party's "Evangelical base," I think that John McCain and his advisors are in a better position to determine that than either of us. Finally, if you were wondering whether I am suggesting that you are a bigot because I use the word "bigot" multiple times in this post, you would be right.

[cordier]

Romney won't be the running mate. He just bought a house in California and will establish residency for his run for the governorship in 2010 when Arnold's term is up. State law mandates Arnold can not run again.

[JohnPone]

He has ZERO chanch of being governor of Cali... so if he did buy a house he should sell and move to Utah.

[sandiegoconservative]

willymanet- Please tell me you are not the fool you appear to be. You do know that Romney is not a member of the FLDS, correct?

[dutchess2]

No - the court did not order all the kids back to the ranch.

The court ordered 12 of the children to their 3 sets of parents on the condition that they did not
return to the compound where they were living in households with teenaged bed partners to older men.

The significance of the photo is that the man is the Prophet of the FLDS, the man one mother testified was as a God to her...what he says goes, and he reassigns wives and children to favored men,
marries teens himself, performs marriages, (not real marriages, nothing legal about it,)

That is why parents cannot and will not protect their girls from rape and their sons from banishment, its the way FLDS is, its why they have children in the first place.

[ICanHasDemocracy]

FLDS is a cult, nothing more.