Bush: "We're Learning As We Go" In Iraq And Afghanistan

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BEN FELLER | May 28, 2008 11:20 PM EST | AP

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President Bush speaks into an unidentified graduate's cellular phone, Wednesday, May 28, 2008, during the U.S. Air Force Academy graduation ceremony in Colorado Springs, Colo., Wednesday, May 28, 2008. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — President Bush said Wednesday that rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan is proving difficult as the wars rage on, and "we're learning as we go."

The president harkened back to the patriotic sacrifice of World War II, the deadliest conflict in history, in again suggesting the country must hold firm and not lose its nerve.

"After World War II, we helped Germany and Japan build free societies and strong economies," Bush said. "These efforts took time and patience, and as a result, Germany and Japan grew in freedom and prosperity. Germany and Japan, once mortal enemies, are now allies of the United States. And people across the world have reaped the benefits."

The president spoke on a day intended solely for celebration, the commencement for more than 1,000 graduates of the U.S. Air Force Academy.

Yet Bush's words were vastly overshadowed by those of the man who once spoke for him, Scott McClellan, the former press secretary. Stunning the White House, McClellan wrote in a new book that Bush favored propaganda over honesty in selling the war to the public.

McClellan's scathing account, and the dominant news coverage it received, put Bush's latest defense of war in a new context.

At a cold, drizzly football-stadium ceremony, Bush said the United States has an obligation to stick with Iraq and Afghanistan. He said the lesson is rooted in history.

The president acknowledged one of the many differences between the global conflict six decades ago and the ones that began under his watch: today's wars are not over.

"In Germany and Japan, the work of rebuilding took place in relative quiet," Bush said. "Today we're helping emerging democracies rebuild under fire from terrorist networks and state sponsors of terror. This is a difficult and unprecedented task, and we're learning as we go."

For example, he said, the U.S. learned the hard way that the newly liberated people in Iraq could not make progress unless they felt reasonably secure.

Bush said his own country must not lose resolve. He said terrorist enemies, using the media and the never-ending news cycle, attack innocent people to weaken American resolve.

"We need to recognize that the only way that America can lose the war on terror is if we defeat ourselves," Bush said.

The shadow cast by McClellan's book followed Bush.

McClellan wrote that the Bush White House made "a decision to turn away from candor and honesty when those qualities were most needed" in the run-up to war. And he called the Iraq war a "serious strategic blunder."

White House press secretary Dana Perino said that McClellan's account was puzzling and sad, and that Bush had more important matters than commenting on books by former staffers.

At least 4,085 U.S. military members have died in the Iraq war. More than 430 members of the U.S. military have died as a result of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, according to the Defense Department.

Bush noted it was his last military academy commencement speech, and he seemed to savor it. He personally congratulated each cadet as cheers bounded across the stadium.

History and war experts warn that Bush has at times oversimplified the comparison between postwar efforts in Japan and Germany and what's unfolding in Iraq and Afghanistan.

After the end of World War II, enemies formally surrendered, hostilities ended, basic security existed, and local populations essentially accepted occupation and reconstruction.

Experts say those conditions don't exist in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The postwar analogy between World War II and today is "patently false," said Sam Brannen, a fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The stateless enemies in Afghanistan and Iraq "are not accountable to the same command-and-control structures that existed in Japan and Germany," he said.

Bush, linking the wars now and then, did acknowledge differences.

"Our adversaries did not lay down their arms after the regime had been removed," he said of today's conflicts. "Instead, they blended into the civilian population and ... continued the fight through suicide bombings and attacks on innocent people. In the 21st century, this nation must be prepared to fight this new kind of warfare."

The speech was the main official business in a Western trip mostly designed for political fundraising. After the commencement, Bush headed to Salt Lake City, Utah, for the first of two closed fundraisers for John McCain, the Arizona senator and presumptive Republican presidential nominee. The events also benefited the national Republican Party.

The later fundraiser in Utah was held in Park City, a posh mountain resort town, and hosted by former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The McCain campaign refused to say how much cash the Bush events raised.

 
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And doing a heckova job for a proud "C" STUDENT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 05/29/2008
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Kill as you go. Whoops - learn as you go.

Want more of this crap? Vote for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 05/29/2008
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If only George W. Bush was capable of learning. Alas, he is not. If President Bush could comprehend one tenth of the suffering he has caused, I doubt he could bear the guilt. Fortunately for him, empathy is nothing more than a word he has trouble pronouncing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 05/29/2008

Thirty thousand casualties and over 4000 dead. Hell of a lesson. The utter gaul of this President to say we're learning as we go. There are serious consequences for his "on the job" training" exercise that so many have sacrificed so we could learn. This is the most insensitive and clueless person in American Presidential history. Please let this be over so someone can straighten out this mess. And let us never again do anything so damaging before we have LEARNED PEOPLE in charge of our government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/29/2008

OK, if we start with a preznutz that can't learn to pronounce the word 'nuclear' correctly, the rest is then less of a head-scratcher.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 05/29/2008
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Bush: "We're learning as we go."

We're paying $ 12 billion a month for lessons in War 101?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/29/2008

'WE' are not learning as 'WE' go.........'WE' already knew pretty much what to expect on iraq......thanks to the experienced men and women who tried to warn GEORGE BUSH of the probable consequences of an unnecessary war.....which he chose to ignore;preferring the 'learning on our dime' and at the cost of thousands of victims of HIS learning curve;and he still doesn't 'KNOW'.....AND NEVER WILL.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 05/29/2008
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Too bad he doesn't mention that our military Intelligence, every trained and competent (ie, not Rumsfeld) officer, and our political and international relations and combat and nation-building resources all knew, before he started this war, what it would take to bring stability to Iraq. They told him, he ignored and discredited them, then when he finally tried to listen it was way too late.

We knew what we needed to do before he made his stupid little plans, and those cadets know more about what still must be done than he ever will. Unfortunately, he has left us with an unfixable quagmire, with no way out and no truly good end result. If we're lucky, the great grandchildren of today's infants might not still be paying for his mistakes in obvious ways, but it seems unlikely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/29/2008

WTF? Bush: "Were learning as we go". That's the same thing McSame is using in his stump speech -not suprising, but definitely a warning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 05/29/2008

Unfortunately, despite massive resources and heroic attempts, some never learn.

President Pan is one.

Some Presidents Left Behind.

Oh well, on to Iran!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 05/29/2008
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GWB - still learning? When did he start?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 05/29/2008

I can't vouch for all states but generally there is some level of educational attainment required as a matter of law.

I believe that Pan was raised in Connecticut which should have reasonably strict laws - though I suppose you might argue that Republicans generally are not bound by the same laws as you and me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 05/29/2008
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Bush is lying again..he - and the rest of his administration- knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they went into Iraq.They knew that the United States was never going to leave Iraq,so they did everything EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what to do when you want to get in and get out fast: they went in with too few troops,they allowed the looting,they disbanded the Iraqi Army,they had no exit plan,they are bungling the reconstruction,they killed thousands of innocents,creating more "enemies",etc. The longer they "had" to stay,the easier it would become for many Americans to "forget" that they were over there.They have built bases and a massive embassy,sure signs that the US is there to stay.
Bush says that "we're learning as we go" as if he was trying to build a house,and they just realized that the doors are on backwards: "Oops!". In Iraq,usually the "lesson" ends with someone dying and US forces staying that much longer.
Bush needs to led out of the White House in cuffs and leg irons-before he pulls out another "lesson plan" for Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/28/2008

as a scholar of WWII, I am incredibly offended by Bush's attempt to form analogies between the Iraq War and WWII. They could not be more different. I believe history will show that Bush et al. were the wrong war in the wrong country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 05/28/2008
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Just like Japan and Germany.... only different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 05/29/2008

Little, Yellow, Different

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 05/29/2008

Job Description

Title: President of the United States of America

Required Qualifications: None, will provide on-the-job training and prefabricated policy positions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/28/2008

Didn't he say that we were learning about this four years ago in Colorado Springs, to the Cadets?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/28/2008
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learning what? the terrors of a war the president created---the terror of being shot by people who hate them--the loss of their family and jobs back home--what are they learning that's positive mr.president!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/28/2008

Bush is still trying to sell the war in Iraq as if it is our battle against Naziism and fascism in WWII. The two wars have nothing to do with one anything. We are attacked in WWII and fighting a clear enemy. After the surrender ceremony, hostilities ceased and both sides worked to rebuild Europe and Japan. There were no sectarian divisions. Only in the simplistic mind of George Bush do the two wars have any parallels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/28/2008
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