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May 29, 2008 07:57 AM EST | AP

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Justin Vargas fuels up his truck which he uses for his work in carpentry and construction at a gas station in Half Moon Bay, Calif., Tuesday, May 27, 2008. Vargas fuels up his truck mostly with bio-diesel to save on expenses. He then tops off the tank with diesel. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month and is 76-cents-a-gallon higher than a year ago.

If you need premium, it's also never been more expensive. The auto club says the national average for premium is $4.35. That's an 84-cent-a-gallon jump over last year.

Oil prices fell back Thursday ahead of a report expected to show U.S. inventories of crude and petroleum products grew last week.

Prices remained volatile, though, buffeted about by threats against Nigerian oil facilities, worries about falling gasoline demand in the U.S. and a strengthening U.S. dollar.

By midday in Europe, light, sweet crude contract for July delivery was down 65 cents at $130.38 a barrel in electronic trade on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

In London, July Brent crude fell 86 cents to $130.07 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

The Nymex July contract dipped below $126 a barrel Wednesday in New York before recovering to finish at $131.03, up $2.18. At its low in the floor session, oil was more than $9 off the record high it hit last week above $135 a barrel.

"Fears that soaring oil prices could damage demand continue to weigh on sentiment," said a report from research firm JBC Energy in Vienna, Austria.

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The reversal from the floor session's close came with a renewed strengthening of the dollar and ahead of the U.S. Energy Department's inventory report, to be released later Thursday.

In the last couple of days, the dollar has rebounded against both the euro and yen, receiving some support Wednesday when the U.S. Commerce Department said orders to American factories for big-ticket manufactured goods fell by a smaller-than-expected amount in April.

That was taken as a possible signal of a rebound in the slumping U.S. manufacturing sector and the dollar strengthened back above the 105 yen level, while the euro dropped below $1.56.

When the dollar declines, investors tend to buy commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation. But a stronger dollar makes oil more expensive to investors dealing in other currencies, and the tendency usually reverses.

Also, a survey of analysts by Platts, the energy research arm of McGraw-Hill Cos., indicated that U.S. crude oil stocks were expected to have grown 750,000 barrels in the week ended May 23.

The Platts survey also indicated analysts were expecting a build in U.S. gasoline stock of 400,000 barrels, and a build in distillate stocks, which include heating oil and diesel fuel, of 800,000 barrels.

Prices were still being supported, though, by further threats against Nigerian oil facilities. Those threats led investors in the U.S. to at least temporarily set aside concerns about falling gasoline demand.

On Wednesday, the Nigerian rebel group The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta threatened new attacks on oil installations to mark the one-year anniversary of President Umaru Yar'Adua's inauguration. A weekend attack by the group on an oil facility cut about 130,000 barrels of the nation's oil production, according to Addison Armstrong, director of market research at Tradition Energy in Stamford, Connecticut, in a research note.

News of disruptions in Nigeria, one of Africa's largest producers and a major U.S. supplier, have helped push oil prices higher over the past year.

That contended Wednesday with the growing belief that U.S. demand for gasoline is falling as the average retail pump prices approaches $4 a gallon ($1.05 per liter). That belief was supported by two new surveys showing Americans consuming less gasoline.

Demand for gasoline fell 5.5 percent last week compared to the same week last year, according to the weekly MasterCard SpendingPulse survey. The survey also found that, on average, demand over the past four weeks is off 6.3 percent compared to the same period last year.

A separate CreditCards.com survey of about 1,000 people found that more than half have cut back on their driving due to high fuel prices.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 2.08 cents to $3.8035 a gallon while gasoline prices were down 1.31 cents to $3.4345 a gallon. Natural gas futures rose 1.9 cents to $12.014 per 1,000 cubic feet.

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AP Business Writer Thomas Hogue in Bangkok, Thailand, contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month a...
NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month a...
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- leduck I'm a Fan of leduck 47 fans permalink
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as usual, people believe what they want.
aside from other problems, like an overall falling dollar...,
the main reason rising prices is supply and demand
world oil production has been on a plateau since around 2004
but world demand keeps rising
when demand rises but supply lags, then prices rise too

to bad we have all this urban sprawl and we weren’t smart enough to build real
mass transportation

maybe market forces can save us from Peak Oil

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/29/2008

Nothing can save us from Peak Oil. Peak oil is a simple mathematical theorem about positive, continuous functions applied to a production curve of a commodity from a finite reservoir. It can be mathematically proven that any such function must have at least one global maximum.

When Peak Oil will happen/is happening is another matter. Most likely it is happening now. There is for sure no reliable information about oil discovery and estimated reserves out there that can positively refute that we are experiencing Peak Oil.

If Peak Oil is happening right now, we will know within four to five years with enough statistical significance to declare that the event happened around the years 2006-2008. By that time, of course, the world will have 5-10% less annual oil production than it has now, which is about a quarter to half US consumptio­n...

Buying a hybrid now is a very simple and effective peak oil mitigation strategy for the next 5-10 years. After that plug-in hybrids and electric vehicles will be available to mitigate the financial effects even further. Car ownership will, of course, be always more expensive in the future than it was in the past. But then, there is no birthright to cheap transportation. There just happened to be a phase in human history when a one time geological event gave humans a cheap energy source.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/29/2008

Demand is down. It is nice to see Liberals and Conservatives working together to reduce the use of gasoline. That means cleaner air and less demand for foreign oil. Nor all is bad with high gas prices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 05/29/2008

Where is the leader from either party advocating for reducing the speed limit? We could reduce our highway fuel consumption by 5% overnight without significantly impacting our lifestyle.

But no politician will touch that with a ten foot pole.

If anything, the dropping demand simply proves that consumers will act in their own best interests, and that government is utterly impotent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/29/2008
- cdembrey I'm a Fan of cdembrey 5 fans permalink

Only the poor are using less gas.

There are plenty of SUVs at the gas pump.

People are still driving well above the speed limit.

Here in Orange County, CA life goes on ... but there is some bitching as they put over $100.00 worth of gas into their SUVs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 05/29/2008
- jteschke I'm a Fan of jteschke 2 fans permalink

From what I heard elsewhere, the pricerises per barrel which have already occurred are based on futures contracts, so are not fully cycled in. This means that the cycling in will be prolonged and painful even if, at present, prices drop by several per cent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/29/2008
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Is so, it is done selectively and in a completely dishonest manner; you will notice that gas prices track upward as the price of oil rises, almost instantaneously, but is much slower in dropping--"cycling in" does not explain such.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 05/29/2008

There is no law that prices have to drop as fast as they can rise. The dynamics of pricing is left to the markets and what you see is economics 101 at work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 05/29/2008

It is about supply and demand. They control the supply, and they demand higher prices. It's that simple.
Everyone knows that is the price of oil per barrel goes up, the gas prices go up immediately, or even before the barrel price increases. But, when barrel prices drop, gas prices rarely drop. The Wall Street gurus that panic at the drop of a hat are also partly responsible, but then again, they have no concept of the meaning of responsibility, so why expect anything different?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 05/29/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 49 fans permalink
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"It is about supply and demand. They control the supply, and they demand higher prices."

LOL! Great line. An excellent rejoinder to conservatives when they start talking about "Econ 101."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 05/29/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 28 fans permalink
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Anybody think gas prices will be what loses the election for McCain? Only the really well-off Europeans can afford to drive the truck or V8 sports car. Everybody else drives a diesel or subcompact, and now hybrids are getting big. (Let's not forget the electric Tesla roadster)
Gas has been over $5 in parts of Europe for years, and is no doubt the model this administration is visualizing for the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/29/2008

Big oil will do what it has done before nearly every election for the past thirty years or so. If Republicans are in serious danger of losing an election, or if a Republican president is running for reelection, you will see pump prices begin to drop around sixty days prior to the election. The drop will be significant, and then be quickly reversed after the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 05/29/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 333 fans permalink
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Saw that in 06, and the dumb ass's were saying, hey, look at the price of gas, the Repigs are DOING SOMETHING RIGHT !

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 05/29/2008

Wouldn't that instead help the Democrats who control both houses in Congress? All those hearings should be paying off by now,woudn't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 05/29/2008
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"Gas prices keep climbing even as oil prices drop"
Why? Gas station owners make more money when the wholesale price of gas decreases than when the wholesale prices of gas increases? Why? It's called survival. Here's how it's done.

When the wholesale price of gas is rising, a gas station owner is fighting to maintain his competitiveness and market share. This is done by raising the retail cost of gas at a rate that is less than the rate at which the wholesale prices are rising. Conversely, when the wholesale price of gas is dropping, as it is in some regions of the country, a gas station owner decreases the retail price for gas at a rate that is less than the rate at which the wholesale prices are decreasing.

In reality, most gas station owners make only 3 or 4 cents per gallon of gas sold (owners make their money on auto service, snacks and refreshments). The WaPo had an article recently on area gas stations. Seems the gas wholesalers use very sophisticated revenue models so that they can charge gas station owners a price that maximizes the wholesalers' profit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 05/29/2008

You think this is scary?

Now consider what can happen if private companies can continue to privatize vital resources in this country.

What will happen when these companies successfully privatize the entire energy grid?
How about our water supply?

Sorry, mom with three kids. We need to make a profit, and there's a drought, and if you can't afford a dollar a gallon for the water out of your tap, maybe you should get a second job and start conserving water a little better, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/29/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

I agree wholeheartedly, privatization of our water systems has already begun. All vital resources should be nationalized and our government should create jobs for those workers that will be displaced in the private sector - I don't believe for one minute that the cost to taxpayers will be greater than what we're paying for "privatized" services and goods.

The insidious rise of corporations globally, as well as the push for free markets and privatization, will eventually push this country over the edge. Americans think we're so much smarter than everyone else, yet we fell hook, line, and sinker for the greatest scam going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 05/29/2008

The sad fact is that over the last 2-3 years, nobody has gone broke by betting oil would rise. That's exactly how bubbles work.

I think all the insiders have been invested in oil for years, and have already made the lion's share of the profits. Now we're to the stage where Joe Sixpack starts jumping on the bandwagon. While that will mean prices will continue to rise, it also means the end is in sight. After all, the insiders still need to make money, and J6P is shoveling it in. When the price drops, the insiders will make yet another killing at the expense of the general public.

It's all part of the normal boom/bust cycle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/29/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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Meanwhile, In NIGERIA where a lot of Oil comes from the People there live on less than a Dollar a day.

While their natural resources are being stolen by those in POWER to keep gas in your HUMMERS!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 05/29/2008
- Synoia I'm a Fan of Synoia 6 fans permalink

There, and Angola, Venezuela, Sudan, Burma, (not a complete list)...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/29/2008
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Venezuela? I think not; broaden your knowledge rather than make gross assumptions. I believe the last I heard gas prices in country were around $0.20/gal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/29/2008

At $130 a barrel I think anyone is stealing their oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/29/2008
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Nigeria is...an interesting country; I agree, there is much injustice in how the elites in the north control and profit from the oil in the south. However--having spent six months in Nigeria a few years back--I wouldn't give a moment's consideration to the question of legitimacy in regards to the many "disruptions" in Nigerian oil output.

I have never seen such a saturation corruption in all aspects of government, from the smallest peon official to the very top; if an oil production issue arises in Nigeria, you can bet it's mostly well-paid pageantry [well-paid only in a relative sense] produced solely for the sake of oil speculators. If a group of Nigerians have an issue so serious that they actually resort to violence, then you can wait for the body count total, and usually there will be several bodies to count.

When the true Nigerian militants are at work, you will not read about their efforts in a report offering false justification for the most recent rise in oil prices; when they are on the prowl, you'll know it by the bodies left behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 05/29/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 84 fans permalink
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I've virtually stopped driving, but I can do this since I do not have summer teaching responsibilities. We are being gouged and have been gouged -- hence the record profits. Time to cut back as much as you can. I wish I had alt. transportation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/29/2008
- ElPerro I'm a Fan of ElPerro 26 fans permalink
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What? You mean that decades of building and marketing gas guzzling cars, trucks and SUVs, building more and more plastic crap out of petroleum products, and deriding anyone who called for conservation programs and higher mileage standards as mindless hippies who hate capitalism were BAD IDEAS? I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya!

By the way, you know one of the biggest things driving the price of oil up is increased demand in China and India. Their economy's are skyrocketing so more people there can afford cars, plastic goods, etc. And why are their economy's doing so well? Because of all the crap we buy from China and jobs we outsource to India. Talk about digging our own graves. That liberalization of global trade regulations has really worked out well for the American worker, hasn't it? Blame the Mexicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 05/29/2008
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But even with their increased demand, in the overall scheme of things, the increased usage by China and India are only a drop in the bucket. It just makes a much better sound bite than some of the other excuses. And definitely sounds better than to point out that the current administration has apparently had as its life's goal the betterment of big oil....

I doubt I'm the only person who remembers that early on in this administration, Dick Cheney made the comment that we didn't need to encourage conservation, that we'd just drill up some more oil. How about the tax incentive for alternative fuel vehicles that was done away with - while a nice big loophole was opened up that encouraged businesses to buy bigger vehicles, offering a larger tax incentive based on buying a heavier weight vehicle?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/29/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

High gasoline prices are a good thing.

When prices get to $7 or $8/gal demand will be permanently destroyed and we will be developing a decent mass transit system so you don't even need to own a car.

How cool would that be? No more car payments, insurance, repair bills or getting stuck in freeway traffic that goes 5 mph.

No more urban sprawl - we will take back the cities and have real community again.

And best of all what happens in the middle east will not be in the national interest.

So don't blame the oil companies - thank them for bringing us into a better 21st century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 05/29/2008
- skahimself I'm a Fan of skahimself 4 fans permalink

Except for the infrastructure your talking about would cost billions of dollars, drive living prices through the roof, and all in all would be a major pain in the ass.

Imagine the infrastructure needed to handle the mass exodus of people from the outlying communities to a major city - new housing, new MASS transportation, etc etc. This would be a monumental undertaking. Now, while prices in some major cities are already fucking ridiculous, imagine the price per square foot they can charge while new apartments, houses, grocery stores, etc are being built to handle the mass influx of people.

Subways work in New York but other cities implementing them would be an incredibly costly affair. Apart from that - major buslines will still clog city streets, severely disrupt lifestyles, and alltogethor change everything.

It's not as simple or utopic as you try and make it seem.

But yeah, it would be nice to get the middle east's dick out of our collective mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 05/29/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

Is mass transit expensive? How about supporting a failing auto industry to the tune of billions of dollars lost per year? Is there a worse investment for an individual to make than a new automobile? Add to that the ever-rising gas prices.

It takes something like $6K/year to own the average car, and there are 300 million cars in the US, so maybe if just 100 million of us could pay $1K/year for mass transit that would be what, $100 billion/year? Do that every year for five years - that would build a decent system. And it would cost less than owning cars.

Will there be a painful transition - sure. Will we be better off afterwards, yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/29/2008

And home prices in the urban core will be rising like in Europe so people in their early careers will not be able to own their home but relegated to renting.

One thing the suburban sprawl provided is a home for young families as homes were built in the boonies supported by freeways and the car. So the affordable housing issue needs to be addressed in the otherwise panacea scenario you are painting. I am not against mass transit but it should be market driven with equal support from Government. Today Government is willing to spend a lot of money on roads and airports but not on trains. Just an equal spread will develop rail.

Other ways such as Nuclear energy should also be factored in for a better 21st century. That's what they do in France where 70% of the power is from Nuclear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/29/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

Nuclear energy has got to be a part of it, no question. Once we decide to deal with the waste and safety issues rationally, nuclear power is our best option for power.

I would suggest that the inner cities will become the most desirable location - close to downtown and mass transit will be practical and easy to implement. Bet you can find some bargains there for young families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 05/29/2008

Nuclear energy? Do you see the French riding around in cars with 30 mile long extension cords hanging out the back?

The French import plenty of oil for their cars. Just like us. Sorry... but some things just ain't so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 05/29/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Agree and disagree. I'm driving 180 miles a day and I'm reimbursed for 1/3 of it.

I am literally thinking of quitting (what was) a decent paying job because I can't afford to work there when summing up the gas, maintenance and wear and tear and the corrupt Corporate controlled state govt. will fight against mass transit systems tooth and nail where I live for a long time to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 05/29/2008

Typical liberal half-thought idea.

Do you have any idea how many decades it takes to implement a decent mass transit system?

Do you realize that the reason the Europeans can get away with charging that much is because their citizenry gets paid better AND that money goes towards things like universal health care (something we have to pay for out of our own pockets)?

Do you not understand that MOST of America--nay, the world, LIKES urban sprawl?

If gas hits 6 dollars a gallon, do you not realize that it will drive up prices of things like food, electronics, and other consumer goods because of increased shipping costs?

Do you also not realize that the easiest way for a company to compensate for higher gas costs is to cut back on labor costs--in other words, fewer jobs.

Congratulations on advocating turning this country into the Great Depression, v. 2.0 with a shattered economy. Bravo. Well done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 05/29/2008
- Synoia I'm a Fan of Synoia 6 fans permalink

"Do you not understand that MOST of America--nay, the world, LIKES urban sprawl?"

Really?

Where have you lived so that you are such an expert?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/29/2008

DO YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF YOUR MENTIONED PROBLEMS CAN BE BENEFICIAL AND FORCE US TO START THINKING OUTSIDE OUR TINY LITTLE BOX?

FEAR LIMITS OUR ABILITY FOR CREATIVE THINKING.

I'M NOT DRINKING THE FEAR KOOL-AIDE.­..IT'S TOO SWEET AND HAS MADE US ALL FAT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 05/29/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 49 fans permalink
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"Do you not understand that MOST of America--nay, the world, LIKES urban sprawl?"

I "like" a lot of things. I'd like to have a Bentley, a Lamborghini, a yacht, a beach house in Malibu and a ski chalet in Gstaad. But I can't because I can't afford them. Urban sprawl is something we can no longer afford. It was made possible by cheap gas and the era of cheap gas is over. Nobody is saying the adjustment will be painless, but it has to happen whether we like it or not.

And instead of blaming "libruls" for this you should blame conservatives for encouraging Americans to live in a fool's paradise, believing the era of cheap gas would last forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/29/2008

"Do you have any idea how many decades it takes to implement a decent mass transit system?"

In a hurry? About half a year, I would say. You get yourself a couple big parking lots for, say, 500 buses. You hire drivers, train them and paint "Bus Lane" on the rightmost lane of your roads. You print a bus schedule and, oh, yeah, you increase state taxes by a couple percent to pay for that thing. And suddenly your people have buses to get around. It's not quite as good as a train, but it is way cheaper and faster to build. It's more flexible to operate, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 05/29/2008

I agree. High prices are lookin good from my perspective.
It has already forced people to cut back and drive less. It will also force our local communities and cities to start constructing better mass transit systems.

Less dependence on mid-east oil is a great BIG added bonus.

People may not realize it now, but this is helping us in the long term (investment in our future).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/29/2008
- rbspickles I'm a Fan of rbspickles 9 fans permalink

It has also trippled our home heating bills and almost doubled our food bills. So this winter when I have to keep my Illinois home at 50 degrees and my kids are freezing, I'll tell them that Chill said it's all alright. When the pantry is bare and they are hungry, I'll tell them Chill said all's ok. Oh, and by the way Chill, not everyone in the US lives in a city that has mass transit systems. Many of us live in rural communities where the ONLY way to get around is by car. You can't ride a bike in subzero or 100 degree heat which is about 6 to 7 months out of the year here. Many people only see out their own windows but looking out of mine, it's getting scarier by the day. But hey, alls ok. All we have to do is quit driving so much and that's the answer. Oh, by the way, gasoline sales are DOWN 7% this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 05/29/2008

Boycott all stations; stop buying gas! Then we'll see how quickly the prices fall!

Duh!

That's just law of supply and demand, dummy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/29/2008
- skahimself I'm a Fan of skahimself 4 fans permalink

Right. It's just that simple.

Except for the fact that I used to live 20+ miles from my job. There was no busline and no conceivable way for me to get to work other than using my car.

Now, I live just a few miles from work, but again, no effective bus routes. So I have to still drive to work. Granted, I now drive a hybrid - not because I give a shit about the polar bears but because it makes economical sense, and since I live downtown my driving has been significantly reduced.

It makes perfect sense to stop driving when you can and to cut out unnecessary trips. But the simple fact remains that some sort of major boycott is unatainable for most Americans who, by viture of their location, have no choice but to drive to and from their intended destinations.

It IS supply and demand, dummy - it's just not as simple to boycott as you think it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 05/29/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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ALSO TURN OFF CABLE, CELLPHONES, AND KEEP ONLY VITAL SERVICES.

Basic telephone service is only $18.00 a month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 05/29/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Tea is harmless when dumped in large quantities off the harbor..

Is there something we can do with oil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/29/2008
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Great idea. I won't have to worry any more about the high cost of groceries, because I won't be able to buy any at all, since I'm fairly certain that my employer won't continue giving me a check every couple of weeks unless I actually show up at work, but what the heck. Hmm, there's paying the rent....ma­ybe I should have stuck with that SUV, I could've put up some nice little curtains, with a little padding and a few pillows I'd have someplace to sleep, anyway.

There's only so much consumption that most people can realistically cut. I'm pretty much at that point. I drive to work. I drive home. If I need groceries or whatever, it darned well better be from a store that's on my route between work and home. (This can be a challenge, since I only live 4 miles from work.) If I get home and don't have it, too bad, I'm not getting it until the next time I need to go to work.

It's possible to live like that, and do fairly well. But every dime that I'm forced to put into the gas tank is money that's not being spent somewhere else. It's not paying off my student loan. It's not buying shoes, or paying for a haircut, or grabbing a burger for lunch. The rest of the economy is coming to a grinding halt, but hot damn! Oil company profits are up again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/29/2008
- txgal44 I'm a Fan of txgal44 3 fans permalink

......and please, stop asking them dumb-ass questions! You know why!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 05/29/2008
- txgal44 I'm a Fan of txgal44 3 fans permalink

Why?

Because it's legal robbery! They're crooks! Duh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/29/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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"There is no law, there is only power." - Unknown

By giving up essential liberty in favor of (the illusion of) safety, Americans ensured their slavery and now we have no resourse against tyranny - either by corporations, opportunist politicians of rogue ideologues.

Democracy is not the best system when 85% of the voters are ignorant tools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 05/29/2008
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