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May 29, 2008 07:57 AM EST | AP

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Justin Vargas fuels up his truck which he uses for his work in carpentry and construction at a gas station in Half Moon Bay, Calif., Tuesday, May 27, 2008. Vargas fuels up his truck mostly with bio-diesel to save on expenses. He then tops off the tank with diesel. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month and is 76-cents-a-gallon higher than a year ago.

If you need premium, it's also never been more expensive. The auto club says the national average for premium is $4.35. That's an 84-cent-a-gallon jump over last year.

Oil prices fell back Thursday ahead of a report expected to show U.S. inventories of crude and petroleum products grew last week.

Prices remained volatile, though, buffeted about by threats against Nigerian oil facilities, worries about falling gasoline demand in the U.S. and a strengthening U.S. dollar.

By midday in Europe, light, sweet crude contract for July delivery was down 65 cents at $130.38 a barrel in electronic trade on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

In London, July Brent crude fell 86 cents to $130.07 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

The Nymex July contract dipped below $126 a barrel Wednesday in New York before recovering to finish at $131.03, up $2.18. At its low in the floor session, oil was more than $9 off the record high it hit last week above $135 a barrel.

"Fears that soaring oil prices could damage demand continue to weigh on sentiment," said a report from research firm JBC Energy in Vienna, Austria.

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The reversal from the floor session's close came with a renewed strengthening of the dollar and ahead of the U.S. Energy Department's inventory report, to be released later Thursday.

In the last couple of days, the dollar has rebounded against both the euro and yen, receiving some support Wednesday when the U.S. Commerce Department said orders to American factories for big-ticket manufactured goods fell by a smaller-than-expected amount in April.

That was taken as a possible signal of a rebound in the slumping U.S. manufacturing sector and the dollar strengthened back above the 105 yen level, while the euro dropped below $1.56.

When the dollar declines, investors tend to buy commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation. But a stronger dollar makes oil more expensive to investors dealing in other currencies, and the tendency usually reverses.

Also, a survey of analysts by Platts, the energy research arm of McGraw-Hill Cos., indicated that U.S. crude oil stocks were expected to have grown 750,000 barrels in the week ended May 23.

The Platts survey also indicated analysts were expecting a build in U.S. gasoline stock of 400,000 barrels, and a build in distillate stocks, which include heating oil and diesel fuel, of 800,000 barrels.

Prices were still being supported, though, by further threats against Nigerian oil facilities. Those threats led investors in the U.S. to at least temporarily set aside concerns about falling gasoline demand.

On Wednesday, the Nigerian rebel group The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta threatened new attacks on oil installations to mark the one-year anniversary of President Umaru Yar'Adua's inauguration. A weekend attack by the group on an oil facility cut about 130,000 barrels of the nation's oil production, according to Addison Armstrong, director of market research at Tradition Energy in Stamford, Connecticut, in a research note.

News of disruptions in Nigeria, one of Africa's largest producers and a major U.S. supplier, have helped push oil prices higher over the past year.

That contended Wednesday with the growing belief that U.S. demand for gasoline is falling as the average retail pump prices approaches $4 a gallon ($1.05 per liter). That belief was supported by two new surveys showing Americans consuming less gasoline.

Demand for gasoline fell 5.5 percent last week compared to the same week last year, according to the weekly MasterCard SpendingPulse survey. The survey also found that, on average, demand over the past four weeks is off 6.3 percent compared to the same period last year.

A separate CreditCards.com survey of about 1,000 people found that more than half have cut back on their driving due to high fuel prices.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 2.08 cents to $3.8035 a gallon while gasoline prices were down 1.31 cents to $3.4345 a gallon. Natural gas futures rose 1.9 cents to $12.014 per 1,000 cubic feet.

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AP Business Writer Thomas Hogue in Bangkok, Thailand, contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month a...
NEW YORK — The gasoline price record keeps getting broken with each passing day. AAA puts the national average for a gallon of regular at a record $3.95. It's jumped 35 cents in the past month a...
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- WIpatriot I'm a Fan of WIpatriot 36 fans permalink
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You can thank me for the decline in gas consumption. I've been on vacation the last two weeks and haven't had to drive to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 05/29/2008

I live in Sacramento, CA in a neighborhood that sits between 3 major freeways: I-55, 99 and Business 80/50. There is no traffic at rush hour. People are getting out of their cars. When a California city sees its traffic decline by half, people aren't driving. Good news because the pollution has decreased, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 05/29/2008

Nah. It's because all the houses are empty and in foreclosure ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 05/29/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

but global warming crap is being pushed on you and we will be taxed for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 05/29/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 83 fans permalink
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60% of the price of a barrel of oil is due to speculation. Right now you can leverage oil at 1:16. One dollar controls 16 bucks. I have no use for capitalism--not this kind. Speculators are just making another huge bubble. If they want to buy futures do it the old fashioned way, cash on the barrel head, 1:1.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 05/29/2008
- bgregs I'm a Fan of bgregs 4 fans permalink

And they need to actually have to take delivery of the product. Right now you can use your $10,000 to leverage $160,000 and you NEVER see the oil. Not even for one tiny nanosecond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 05/30/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 155 fans permalink
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Takes a while for the oil companies to figure out just how much they can get away with before they hit diminishing returns due to lower demand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 05/29/2008
- rbspickles I'm a Fan of rbspickles 9 fans permalink

Ah yes, you would think so but demand is rising in India and China. World markets ya know. Now you know why the elite have all fought for it so hard. To any other laymen, open world markets couldn't have had any other outcome than the one that we are now living. Along with slightly raising the other countries income and living standard, in order for any of this to work, they have to drastically lower American incomes and standards of living. Make every blue collar worker out there pretty much peasants so the elitists can jet around the world without a care in it. I must say, they are doing a right bang up job. Now's the time for Bush to say "Good job Bilderbergs".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/29/2008
- Ceasar I'm a Fan of Ceasar 2 fans permalink

I agree. You see, these companies are no longer American. The sad truth is that global markets have made it so that you can have your HQ in Dubai, and no one asks questions. They have no loyalty to bring down prices here at home. They believe in global business which means, "Go ahead and suffer Americans, we're making money in China and don't need you or care that you're suffering. We're not your neighbors anymore so we don't have to see it, hear it, or give a shit about it."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 05/29/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

when speaking of the cost of gasoline, how come the record-breaking profits the oil companies have been making never enter the conversation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 05/29/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 155 fans permalink
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Because even though each and every American is effectively a teeny-tiny little business in his or her own right, until you reach a certain level of profit and/or liquidity you (and whether or not you profit) don't matter.

The oil companies surpassed that minimum level what, 100 years ago? So their profits are to be encouraged and protected...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/29/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

well, then it really is time for change, eh, steve?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/29/2008
- sandyfeets I'm a Fan of sandyfeets 6 fans permalink

I have it on good authority from former gas station owners that as of January 1st, all stations are selling only one grade of gas and passing it off as three. Legally, they can do this by carrying 93-octane gas and passing it off as 89 or 87 octane -- just not the other way around. My car requires supreme, but I am buying regular and see absolutely no difference in performance. The oil companies don't want you to know this and will cut off any station that reveals it to their customers. So don't pay for anything but regular gas from now on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 05/29/2008
- SaulGood I'm a Fan of SaulGood 33 fans permalink

bastids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 05/29/2008

That's absurd. Why the hell would they sell the more expensive grades for cheaper? Although, I guess it would save having to buy fuel to truck in three different tankers - haha. Not sure who your "good authority" is, but I suspect that the tinfoil hat might have slipped a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 05/29/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

Exactly, and if people would only educate themselves more. Ed Wallace of a Dallas Station
every Saturday on his car show he let us know that he has tested just about every vehicle
in existence for as long as I can remember and he will never use anything but REGULAR gas
in them. He states, that all cars have computer chips in them and that takes care of the problem
with the different grades of gas. He says you may lose a horsepower or two but who in the world
needs horsepower these days - you get a ticket if caught?
He also said if you drive 60 mph from Dallas to Ft Worth you get there in 38 minutes, if you drive
over the speed limit and do 70 mph you get there 8 minutes earlier, not a heck of a lot of difference.
Also, please drive the speed limit only and gas stations will sit on their gas much longer.
Every little bit helps!!! Drive 60 mph you save 20% in fuel, drive 55 mph you save 25%.
Let us get smart PLEASE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 05/29/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

BULLSHIT.

Better watch those suprlatives like "all cars", "every vehicle".

I just had to perform a rebuild of my engine when I drove through Texas and bought gas in Balmorhay (sp?) which was WAY under spec. It caused such a problem, I actually called in the regulatory agency that in Texas manages such things. They sent out a person to take samples and CONFIRMED that _NONE_ of the station's fuel met its octane specs, NOT EVEN THE 87 stuff! ...I now have a lawsuit against the station and their supplier... It was also fraud and I'm trying to get the DA to prosecute... Wish me luck!

RT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 05/29/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 51 fans permalink
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Nealy all cars run just fine on regular even if the manual says to use premium.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/29/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

Interesting theory, however it makes little sense.

Note that for a very long time now the different grades are all, indeed _almost_ identical. They are just a slightly different mix of (usually) three component liquids that together give the specified octane.

IF YOU HAVE A MODERN CAR, you can probably run the low octane stuff without concern. The computer in it will retard the ignition timing and enrich the mixture just a bit, enough of each so that the pinging - predetonation - stops.

HOWEVER, if you have a car with an old fashioned carburetor (most everything before about 1980), and if your car calls for higher octane, YOU HAD BETTER GIVE IT THE HIGHER OCTANE FUEL. That's because there's no computer to compensate for you. The only other thing you can do is rebuild the engine - or tune it - so it no longer requires the higher octane. Trouble is, you will sacrifice a good bit of efficiency and your engine may run hotter, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 05/29/2008
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The West was getting Oil from Iraq under Saddam and now well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/29/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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We have allowed Financialism to dictate the cost of a vital national asset..

This Financialism or Greedism will be our ruin it is showing itself in the speculation artificially driving the prices or gasoline and or oil up out of sight..as well as behind the housing crisis and will also show itself with the crisis that will arise around the credit card industry also...

We can thank Senator Phil Gramm another corrupt Texan, for much of this and his supporter John McCain who is a willing part of the problem rather than any part of the solution..

We must Nationalize the American Oil Industry get the Speculators out of this market completely and then we can cut costs 30-35% and create an economic boom and still have $50-60 billion for alternative energy and new technologies..

Eventually our nation will provide the energy required by it's people and also it's businesses to promote commerce and Serve The People...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 05/29/2008
- Nofoolhere I'm a Fan of Nofoolhere 12 fans permalink
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Yes! Yes! Nationalize all industry that controls and exploits our natural resources. And then the banks. Then we can listen to the rhythmic sound of corporate owned and operated jack boots goose stepping through our streets. And the exciting sound of gun shots echoing through the night to reduce dissent and overcrowding in our middle class communities, blending with the natural sounds of crickets and tree frogs. Novus Ordo Seclorum!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/29/2008
- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 19 fans permalink
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Good. Keep it climbing.

Get those monster SUV's off the road. The day of the Humvee is done. The sooner American's link fuel efficient with sexy, the better.

And bring on the next generation of hybrids, compressed air cars, mass transit, bike friendly urban planning, green technology, and all the rest. It's the new space race, but it's on the ground. AND we are ten years behind the rest of the world.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 05/29/2008
- servicepap I'm a Fan of servicepap 8 fans permalink
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I certainly agree that gas guzzling vehicles are a major problem, even though I drive one out of necessity. I'm a power wheelchair user, and have a full-sized van with a lift to accomodate my wheelchairs and service dog crates. I get 10 miles per gallon, and try to minimize using my van whenever possible. Unfortunately, there are no real energy efficient vehicles that can meet my needs as a powerchair user. How I wish I could drive a hybrid, but they sure don't offer them in vans. When they do, I'll be first in line to retire my gas guzzling monster and switch over to a more green vehicle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 05/29/2008
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One hopes there will be fuel subsidies available to you in a someday-somehow American society. Or a van running on biodiesel made possible. Good luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 05/29/2008

Because its "W"'s fault?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/29/2008
- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 19 fans permalink
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You have an oil man running your country. What do you think?

He started a shooting war in one of the largest oil producing nations.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 05/29/2008

he was hoping somebody would take a bad shot and...8)

KABOOM...there goes the oil stocks....8)

ya think????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 05/29/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 266 fans permalink
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When will he commence the jawboning with his family's business partners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/29/2008
- WIpatriot I'm a Fan of WIpatriot 36 fans permalink
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Uh, yup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 05/29/2008
- Ceasar I'm a Fan of Ceasar 2 fans permalink

Hey I'm no conspiracy theorist or anything, but if Colonel Sanders were the president, and the cost of chicken sky rocketed, I'd put two and two together (thanks for the analogy Bill). In short, you bet it's W and his cronies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 05/29/2008
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