US Government Laptop: Probe Launched To See If It Was Copied On China Trip

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TED BRIDIS | May 29, 2008 09:03 PM EST | AP

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In this Dec. 10, 2007 file photo, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez gestures as he speaks at the China-United States Innovation Conference in Beijing, China. U.S. authorities are investigating whether Chinese officials secretly copied the contents of a government laptop during a visit by Gutierrez to China in December and used the information to try to hack into the department's computers, officials and industry experts told The Associated Press. (AP Photo/Andy Wong, File)

WASHINGTON — U.S. authorities are investigating whether Chinese officials secretly copied the contents of a government laptop computer during a visit to China by Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez and used the information to try to hack into Commerce computers, officials and industry experts told The Associated Press.

Surreptitious copying is believed to have occurred when a laptop was left unattended during Gutierrez's trip to Beijing for trade talks in December, people familiar with the incident told the AP. These people spoke on condition of anonymity because the incident was under investigation.

Gutierrez told the AP on Thursday he could not discuss whether or how the laptop's contents might have been copied.

"Because there is an investigation going on, I would rather not comment on that," he said. "To the extent that there is an investigation going on, those are the things being looked at, those are the questions being asked. I don't think I should provide any speculative answers."

A Commerce Department spokesman, Rich Mills, said he could not confirm or deny such an incident in China. Asked whether the department has issued new rules for carrying computers overseas, Mills said: "The department is continuing to improve our security posture, and that includes providing updates, guidances and best practices to staff to maintain security."

It was not immediately clear what information on the laptop might have been compromised, but it would be highly unorthodox for any U.S. government official to carry classified data on a laptop overseas to China, especially one left unattended even briefly. Modern copying equipment can duplicate a laptop's storage drive in just minutes.

The report of the incident is the latest in a series of worrisome cyber security problems blamed on China and comes at a sensitive time, with looming trade issues between the countries and special attention on China over the upcoming summer Olympics. Gutierrez returned just weeks ago from another trip to Beijing, where he noted he had "traveled here more than to any other foreign city during my tenure as commerce secretary."

In the period after Gutierrez returned from China in December, the U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team _ known as US-CERT, some of the government's leading computer forensic experts _ rushed to the Commerce Department on at least three occasions to respond to serious attempts at data break-ins, officials told the AP.

"There's nothing to substantiate an actual compromise at this time," said Russ Knocke, spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. Knocke said he was unable to find records of a DHS investigation. He said US-CERT workers have visited the Commerce Department eight times since December, but none of those visits related to laptops or the secretary's trip to China. He said the US-CERT organization works routinely with all U.S. agencies.

The FBI declined to comment.

It wasn't clear whether leaving the laptop unattended violated U.S. government rules. Some agencies, such as Homeland Security, routinely provide officials with sanitized laptops to carry on trips overseas and require them to leave in the U.S. their everyday laptops, which might contain sensitive information. Some former Commerce officials told the AP they were careful to keep electronic devices with them at all times during trips to China.

"We have rules in place," Gutierrez said. "We have procedures that people go through before they travel. So, there is a very significant process in place. Technology is obviously moving very quickly, and we have to move very quickly with it. But all of that is something that we are going through."

A senior U.S. intelligence official, Joel F. Brenner, recounted a separate story of an American financial executive who traveled to Beijing on business and said he had detected attempts to remotely implant monitoring software on his handheld "personal digital assistant" device _ software that could have infected the executive's corporate network when he returned home. The executive "counted five beacons popped into his PDA between the time he got off his plane in Beijing and the time he got to his hotel room," Brenner, chief of the office of the National Counterintelligence Executive under the CIA, said during a speech in December.

Brenner recommended throwaway cellular phones for any business people traveling to China.

"The more serious danger is that your device will be corrupted with malicious software that takes only a second or two to download _ and you will not know it _ and that can be transferred to your home server when you collect your e-mail," he said.

The Pentagon, State Department and Commerce Department all have been victimized by widespread computer intrusions blamed on China since July 2006. Defense Secretary Robert Gates confirmed in September that parts of the Pentagon's unclassified e-mail system _ used by Gates and hundreds of others _ were disrupted in June 2007 due to a break-in.

The Commerce Department break-ins have been so serious that its Bureau of Industry and Security, which regulates exports of sensitive technology that might be used in weapons, effectively unplugged itself from the Internet.

Workers were instructed to use a few laptops placed around the office that are isolated from the department's network, even to search for public information using Google's Web search engine.

"We have discovered a number of very serious threats to the integrity of our systems and data," wrote then-Deputy Undersecretary of Commerce Mark Foulon to employees in an e-mail obtained by AP under the Freedom of Information Act. He said the department was not the government's only hacking victim, "but we have an obligation, which we must take seriously, to take all necessary measures to protect our systems and our data."

At the time, Foulon acknowledged that some of the protective measures "may create difficulties and even reduce productivity."

Fully one year after being unplugged from the Internet, some Commerce Department employees complained about the inconvenience. One worker offered to provide his own laptop so he could work at his desk, rather than use one of the office terminals 30 feet away. "How that endanger the network?" the employee wrote last summer. His request was denied by a security supervisor who complained that he, too, was struggling with the same Internet restrictions.

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Associated Press writers Jeannine Aversa and Eileen Sullivan contributed to this story from Washington.

 
 

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- BlueBerryPickN See Profile I'm a Fan of BlueBerryPickN permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/30/2008
- ibsteve2u See Profile I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u permalink

"but it would be highly unorthodox for any U.S. government official to carry classified data on a laptop overseas to China".

There you go again, assuming this Administration selects its appointees using qualifications like intelligence, common sense, loyalty to our nation and its citizens, honesty...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/30/2008
- BBackSoon See Profile I'm a Fan of BBackSoon permalink

Heck of a job Carlos!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 05/30/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Perhaps Commerce Secretary Gutierrez is a spy for the Chinese? Uhmmm!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 AM on 05/30/2008
- loki See Profile I'm a Fan of loki permalink

Its not like the US doesnt do the same thing to them. Every country spies on every other country, its not like its anything top secret. I am sure the Pentagon , NSA, CIA, FBI and probably some programs and groups we have never heard of that are paid for with Tax Payer money spies on the Chinese 24/7. They hack into computers, steal and even pay for information. Espionage has been practiced by every government since the beginning of human beings as we know them. Probably even before that with different species and animals. LIke chimps spying on other chimps to see where they were finding the food, so they could take it over for themselves and such.
Everyone always whines when they catch someone doing it to us, when we are doing the exact same thing to them. Always have been, and always will. Heck, I have read articles that even our tax payer funds have been used to spy on corporations , for corporations in ways that do nothing to benefit the US as all. Only to benefit corporate and private profits.
Just remember, in this day and age, politician sell their soles to corporations, so its only reasonable to think they would do the same to another country. If China really wants to know something, all they have to do is pick up the phone and ask one of the many senators or aids how much they want for the info.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/29/2008
- nanotubz See Profile I'm a Fan of nanotubz permalink

Great administration, can't even carry lap tops with screwing things up, nver mind walk and chew gum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/29/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

THIS IS FUNNY!
If they were worried aboutr the info getting out it would never be loaded on hard drive or a laptop!

JUST LIKE A STOLEN LAPTOP OF A V.A. EMPLOYEE THAT HAD MILLIONS OF VETERANS NAMES AND INFO ON IT.

We all know that laptop was sold to the INSURANCE INDUSTRY!
Think we are fools??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/29/2008
- gorgol See Profile I'm a Fan of gorgol permalink

Lets see..poisoned pet food, Lead in childrens toys, lead in dental fixtures, faulty circuit cards that go into our military rockets, faulty steel bars that we use in our buildings and bridges, allll from China....and no telling what else...because Bush and company have closed down our "safety inspections" for food and materials....and now they are "stealing" lap tops of US officials visiting China....
BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER..THE CHINESE ARE OUR FRIENDS...JUST ASK THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/29/2008
- loki See Profile I'm a Fan of loki permalink

Its not just Bush admin. Corporations , our US corporations have had a lot to do with this too , in their search for the cheapest labor and highest profits. In fact, Corporate America is more to blame than any political whore.. Because really, they are all whores in DC and they work for the highest bidder. Which unfortunately, is Corporations and not the people of the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/29/2008
- freemann See Profile I'm a Fan of freemann permalink

Don't forget the communist Chinese stripped our 'spy plane' to pieces.

There are literally thousands of Chinese spies (working for free!) at virtually every corner of the US. In many cases they use American tax dollars to advance their agenda: to become the world super power and kick the American butt!

It should not be a surprise to the American people to find out one day that the Chinese are actually the enemies - not the Muslims 'terrorists' Bush has been scaring us with.

One of the Chinese agenda is to flood the American (and the West's) market with junks. Raking in mucho dollars in the process, then use it to build up its military. Right now, the Chinese are desperate for technology and they would not stop at nothing to get it, including illegally copying a diplomat's laptop. But then again, with Bush in the White House, who needs more enemies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/29/2008
- PalleKuling See Profile I'm a Fan of PalleKuling permalink

But I thought it was American companies who made all the crap in China...

Out of a $10 Made-in-China product usually much less than $1 actually stays in China. The rest of the money goes to the American firms selling it through WalMart.

Sure, the junk products keep a lot of people employed at minimum salaries but does very little to grow the Chinese economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/29/2008
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