Tax Rebates Being Used To Cover Cost Of Living

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DAVE CARPENTER | May 30, 2008 11:13 AM EST | AP

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Vanessa Church, a 49-year-old Chicagoan with six children, is seen in her Chicago office Tuesday, May 27, 2008. Church said she was grateful for the federal rebate she received in early May but found there wasn't much left over after big payments for utilities and other basic needs were taken care of. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green)

CHICAGO — Many Americans allowed themselves to fantasize about large-screen TVs, European vacations and other luxuries when they learned of the federal rebates they'd be getting this spring and early summer.

Or maybe _ shh, don't tell the president _ they'd pay off a credit card or set the rebate aside for a big purchase in the future, notwithstanding Washington's intentions that they pump it immediately into the flagging economy.

"It's not often you get a windfall like that that you can just stash away for something you need later," said Sara Jackson, 29, a graphic designer in Chattanooga, Tenn.

But reality has interfered, in the form of ever-climbing food bills and $4-a-gallon gasoline. Day-to-day living costs have sopped up the checks for many other early recipients and spoiled their rebate fantasies. Government figures released Friday showed consumer spending inched up just 0.2 percent in April, despite widespread anticipation of the stimulus payments sent out starting late in the month.

Based on a small but broadly diverse group of consumers who tracked their rebate spending in detail for The Associated Press, there was no mass rush to the malls for shopping sprees after the payments started showing up in bank accounts in significant numbers in May. The greater economic ramifications may not be seen for months.

Vanessa Church, a 49-year-old Chicagoan with six children, was grateful for the rebate but found there wasn't much left over after big payments for utilities and other basic needs were taken care of. "Things are getting tighter and tighter," she said, adding jokingly: "I'm thinking they should do this twice a year."

Brandi Dobbins, 26, and her fiance each got their $600 checks just before their May wedding on the coast of Maine. The combined amount was spent almost instantly when their caterer called and, after asking 'Are you sitting down?', informed her that due to food inflation their bill for the wedding was jumping from $46.50 per guest to $59 _ virtually the entire $1,200. "In the economic grand scheme of things, I'm not quite sure that's what they intended us to spend our money on _ inflation _ but that's where ours went," Dobbins said.

Derek Houck, an actor in North Hollywood, Calif., planned to allow himself an indulgence or two with whatever was left of his rebate after he'd taken care of necessities. It turned out to be more modest than he'd thought. When his personal finance software program showed him he had a whopping 50 cents left from the $600, he still celebrated by shelling out $49.95 for a new Wii game.

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All told, 131 million households are to receive a total of $110 billion by the time the last payments are doled out in mid-July. What people do with them will help shape the direction of the sputtering economy.

The last time Washington undertook such a program to combat an economic slowdown, taxpayers got rebates of $300 or $600 in the summer and early fall of 2001. The eight-month recession was over by November, but it's not clear how much the payouts helped. The amount that people actually spent _ excluding saving money, investing or paying down debt _ was lower than many economists expected, although estimates vary so widely an exact total is hard to peg.

This year's program provides more money, aimed at delivering a bigger shot of adrenaline to the economy by inducing people to buy items they didn't otherwise have the cash for.

Most individual taxpayers are getting checks of up to $600, while couples receive $1,200 plus $300 for each eligible child under 17. People earning too little to pay taxes but at least $3,000, including seniors whose only income is from Social Security, get $300 if single or $600 if a couple. And there are no payments for the wealthy: The amount starts to phase out for those with incomes over $75,000, or $150,000 for joint filers.

Based on economists' preliminary assessments, and echoed by the AP sample group of more than two dozen people, Americans are not hesitating to spend the money _ but more for essentials than was anticipated. It's easy to understand why: Gas prices are up more than 30 percent since the rebate check amounts were first announced and food prices are projected to increase 5 percent or more in 2008.

Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist at Deutsche Bank, thinks at least half the rebate money may go toward energy costs alone.

"It's not going to give you the bang for the buck as originally envisioned," he said. "The odds of it having a longer-lasting impact on the economy are less. ... People were not planning to use so much of it on energy and food."

Diane Swonk, chief economist for Mesirow Financial in Chicago, also estimates that consumers will spend more than half of the rebates _ but much of it on the higher cost of living, citing evidence of a "very stressed consumer."

That would be dramatically higher than what they signaled in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll in February, when only 19 percent of respondents said they would spend their rebates. Some 45 percent said they planned to pay off bills, 32 percent said they would save it or invest it, and 4 percent said they would donate it to charity. Consumers in the past have tended to spend significantly more than they told pollsters they thought they would.

Swonk says economic growth won't be affected by where people spend it _ but consumer confidence will, which can influence the longer-term outlook. Over the long haul, spending on staples won't provide the boost the government hoped for.

Millions of Americans can testify to the psychological impact of a fat check, whether or not they agreed with the idea.

"Honestly, I think it's kind of silly that the government is paying us money when it's having such a hard time paying its own bills," said Jackson. "But shoot, who's going to turn down money when they give it to you?"

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Some economists are now saying we will avert a recession, or at least a severe downturn. Don't tell that to people who have seen their living standards squeezed by the markups in supermarkets and at the pump _ like Church, who's raising six children on Chicago's often hardscrabble West Side.

"We're definitely in a recession _ I can feel it," she said over a sandwich in the cramped, bustling offices of the weekly neighborhood newspaper where she is a lifestyles and religion writer. "We get so much less for the same money. Milk and eggs and bread and vegetables and fruit are all very expensive. So the rebate was a good idea for that."

Being pinched didn't prevent Church and her husband from contributing $120 of her $1,200 rebate to their church _ they tithe 10 percent of everything they earn, in good times and bad.

The rest went fast: $350 for a son's eighth-grade class trip to Washington, D.C., $345 for an end-of-winter balloon payment on their heating bill, $225 for a daughter's water-damaged cell phone and bill, $100 for their 15-year-old son's savings account and $60 on transit passes. Another $600 is expected later _ her husband filed separately _ and living costs are likely to gobble up the bulk of that, too.

Church, who describes herself on a networking Web site as "a certifiable, bona fide bibliophile and the proud owner of over 5,000 books," might have liked to make a few additions to her library or spend something on herself. Not at times like this, she can't. But she's not complaining about a payment she sees as a blessing.

"I don't know how it affected other people's budgets overall, but it helped our money stretch," she said.

"I thought it was a really cool thing. It made me see my president in a different light. I was like, 'Attaboy George!' I can be swayed, I can be bought!"

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The rebate couldn't have come at a more perfect time for Dobbins and her fiance: just when payments for their wedding were coming due. Every penny was devoted to the big event, which will have cost about $24,000 by the time all the bills have been settled.

"When I learned about the tax payment I was thrilled," said Dobbins, an account supervisor for a marketing firm in Washington, D.C. "I immediately factored that into what we would be able to pay off."

The fact that the entire amount was consumed by food inflation, in the form of their caterer's price hike, was appropriately ironic given the backdrop to today's economic malaise.

"Do I think it accomplished what they wanted?" Dobbins said of the rebate. "No, because it's going into people's gas tanks, into their food bills or to pay off their credit cards. The cost of living is going up so fast that it's really not going into the stores. It's just keeping up with everyday costs."

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The most troubling economic indicator to Houck this year has been the cash flow predictor in his Microsoft Money software, showing his finances going "down, down, down, down, down." So when the $600 rebate appeared in his bank account, it allowed the 24-year-old to splurge a little for the first time in months.

Splurging is relative for an actor-for-hire doing everything from carpentry to backstage lighting work to video game bug-testing in order to pay the rent.

Besides $30 on tickets to see a play a friend was in, his big "fun" purchase was the Wii game _ "Super Smash Bros. Brawl." He allowed those indulgences only after spending $245 on new head shots to get his face and name out to directors, $68 to renew his subscription to an acting submission service, and most of the rest on food, gas, laundry and bills.

"I don't think I helped save the economy with my contributions from the rebate, but it worked well for me," said Houck.

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Angela Anderson, 50, of York, Pa., thought for weeks about how she might spend her tax rebate. She could create a gas account for the increased cost of her 54-mile daily commute, pay off credit-card debt, buy a piece of local original art, put some toward a trip to Europe, and maybe use anything left over to treat herself with a massage and manicure.

Alas, when the money showed up it was less than expected at $300, owing to the fact that she was unemployed for much of last year. So by the time she wrote two $250 checks to her son Michael and her daughter Jenna to support them on unpaid college internships, it was more than gone.

Despite the disappointment, she was thankful.

"Anything I can do to set a couple of bucks aside so I can pay for the increased cost of living, I'm grateful," said Anderson, public relations director for an art school. "As a single parent, earning just a bit over $50,000, things are always tight for me."

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Hung Nguyen is one of those who dreamt of a fancy new TV and got it, thanks to his payment. The 26-year-old New Orleans resident spent his $600 stimulus check the same day he received it on a 32-inch plasma television for the bargain price of $400, using the rest to pay credit-card bills.

Nguyen, who works for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, lives with his parents and lost everything in Hurricane Katrina. They have since rebuilt, and he felt secure enough financially to spend the rebate on something that wasn't a necessity.

"I guess I kind of just spent it as it was intended for, to boost the economy," he said.

For three years, he drove a car with no air-conditioning _ a major sacrifice in the sticky-hot South. Now he finally feels he has a good job and can buy things he wants, not just needs.

While Nguyen doesn't consider himself overly thrifty, he didn't start out intending to buy a TV. Initially, he thought he'd buy himself new glasses and pay off bills. But his brother saw the TV at a store and Nguyen thought 'Why not?' "It was worth it," he said. "The picture is awesome."

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Moderately affluent Americans, too, are showing increasing signs of economic strain. Swonk says more and more households are shopping for groceries at big-box retailers rather than their local grocer, not going out to movies as often, or watching regular TV instead of rented DVDs or on-demand movies.

Chuck Gutman, 40, who lives in the well-off Chicago suburb of Lincolnshire, Ill., says he feels an underlying financial security but finds himself facing tougher decisions with his money.

"It's a constant battle," he said of rising costs. "I like leading the good life _ going to plays, concerts, restaurants _ but it's harder."

Gutman, who teaches English as a second language at a heavily Hispanic high school, didn't let the increasing money squeeze prevent him from spending his rebate on his passion: helping prepare students from disadvantaged communities to go to college. The $600 paid for a large portion of a summer tour of colleges where he will meet with admissions counselors who may be in a position to assist his students.

"I got into teaching as a vehicle to salve my desire for making a difference," he said. "Helping these students is really satisfying. Just seeing the spark in their eyes makes it worthwhile."

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Gene Murray also demonstrated the high value he places on education with his family's rebate money.

He came up with an interesting twist for his son's 15th birthday in May: He used the $300 dependent stipend to open a bank card account for him as a gift.

"I thought it was a good way to teach him how to be responsible," said Murray, 55, an instructor of information security at a technical institute outside Denver. "He can go online and look at his account balance and see his transactions."

Future allowance money for Patrick also will go into the account.

"He's a saver," Murray said of his son. "He will get money and it will sit around six or eight months and he'll save up and get something substantial."

Murray and his wife, Angie, 49, both are pursuing additional college degrees for themselves. They banked the rest of their economic stimulus check, worth $1,200, with the expectation that some will go for their tuition.

He said he wasn't going out of his way to specifically spend the rebate money, but "I'm sure that it'll be useful."

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For Mark and Toni Quero of Northfield, Vt., the rebates _ $1,200 total _ went straight into the bank, to be saved for home heating oil and replacing a picture window in their home to make it more efficient.

Quero and her husband earn about $44,000 a year between his job as a maintenance man at Norwich University and her Social Security disability checks.

They debated using the money for a vacation but decided instead to use it on heating oil for their three-bedroom ranch house, which they share with their 28-year-old daughter.

So they're holding $1,000 for oil and $200 for the picture window replacement. The couple spent $800 on heating oil last winter, up from $600 the year before, and they expect it'll be higher this year.

"Mark said 'Maybe we'll take part of it and go on a nice vacation,'" said Toni Quero, 59. "Then we said 'That's silly. We'll regret it because we'll wish we'd saved it for fuel.'"

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Another saver, Miami native Gani Rodriguez, 24, received her tax rebate check May 9 and immediately deposited it into her savings account. She and her boyfriend have been squirreling money away for the last year and a half to buy a house together.

"We're already shopping for rings," said Rodriguez, a purchasing agent at an interior design firm. "So if all goes well, we'll do it at the same time _ the house and the marriage."

Asked if she felt any responsibility to spend the money to help jump-start the economy, Rodriguez demurred.

"It's our money. I can do with it what I want," she said. "It could help to spend it, but I don't think anything big is going to change as far as (my spending for) food and gas. This is really chump change."

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Associated Press writers Becky Bohrer in New Orleans; John Curran in Montpelier, Vermont; Sandy Shore in Denver and Laura Wides-Munoz in Miami contributed to this report.

CHICAGO — Many Americans allowed themselves to fantasize about large-screen TVs, European vacations and other luxuries when they learned of the federal rebates they'd be getting this spring and ...
CHICAGO — Many Americans allowed themselves to fantasize about large-screen TVs, European vacations and other luxuries when they learned of the federal rebates they'd be getting this spring and ...
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- gala1 I'm a Fan of gala1 46 fans permalink

I wonder how many 24,000 weddings are being canceled to heat the house.

Or operations put off, or educations curtailed or just life in general lessened to feed a Big Oil exec or pad a Saudi prince by burning up more of the salaries that aren't keeping pace with fuel oil costs.

One reason I moved away from the Northeast to a more temperate climate is when I moved into my house in 2000 the heating oil was 89 cents a gallon, when i left a year ago it had gone near to 3.75 Now the town's residents are facing the possibility of $5 per gallon heating oil which would mean $6000 per winter to keep your house below 60 degrees.
On a January day that might mean $100 right there in one day.
My rent now is less than my fuel bill alone would have been in the Northeast.

My former home is now worth a lot less than it was a year ago. Anybody who buys real estate in the northeast now and buys big old houses is simply not facing reality.

The Bush League managed to pull off this incredible delusion that it will all be the next president's problem to solve.

And we've made that a reality

The $600 that heated me comfortably for several months won't even last much further than 3 January weeks to stay minimally warm .
If you want to be at 68 you go somewhere like thelibrary or the mall .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 05/30/2008
- hoopesaz I'm a Fan of hoopesaz 23 fans permalink

Bush doesn't set the price of oil. The free market does. Pump more oil or drop demand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/30/2008
- marijam I'm a Fan of marijam 47 fans permalink
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They could pump more oil if they wanted to. They've got off-shore leases they aren't doing anything with, yet they howl about ANWR and want MORE leases. What a sham. The quicker we make the change to alternative sources, whatever those may be, the sooner we'll be out from under their thumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 05/30/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Ever hear of a monopoly? Just because you learned one thing in an economics class doesn't mean everything on the planet revolves around it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/30/2008
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Forget natural gas; it's cheaper to use electricity and a portable heating device; or even a warm mist humidifier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 05/31/2008

Maybe if you live in Seattle. But probably not in parts of the country where a kw hour of electricity can set you back 13 cents.

Pity those poor slobs in Texas, where the spot market for electricity recently exceeded $4,000 for a megawatt hour of power, or $4 for a kilowatt hour of usage, according to the Wall Street Journal (5/30/08). I wonder what kind of electric bills the average Houston homeowner is going to have in the summer, when its 100 degrees outside and humid. I guess a lot of old people will be afraid to turn on their AC and end up dying of heat stroke. If the subprime mortgage mess doesn't get them, high AC bills will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 05/31/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Consider that uh loan! Make the monthly payments out to my friend Hu! Heh-heh-heh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/30/2008
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Wait... the 2nd I seen this article was from the City of Chicago then I put two and two together (Chicago has some of the highest taxes in the nation... 10.25% sales tax and 2% tax on ALL foods). The Dollar dose not go too far in Cook County.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 05/30/2008
- Missmn I'm a Fan of Missmn 2 fans permalink

10.25%? 2% tax on foods???? That's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. We don't tax clothing or food (candy and pop, but not food), or other necessities (tampons and the like). I can't imagine paying that much in sales taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 05/30/2008

If you have motor vehicle in California that runs on diesel fuel, you cost of fuel is now over $5 a gallon. You might say that the $ doesn't go to far in California either. Even regular is now over $4.20 at many stations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 05/31/2008
- Dap I'm a Fan of Dap 51 fans permalink
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Peace *NOT* Apartheid,

Shame on the Israeli war mongers.

Israel deny Children Hope.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/30/us-withdraws-gaza-fulbrig_n_104292.html

Exactly, President Carter's point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/30/2008

Did anybody say they wanted to send their check to Israel? Did I miss something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 05/30/2008
- Dap I'm a Fan of Dap 51 fans permalink
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"Did I miss something?"

Seems to be the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/30/2008

Quit cutting and pasting this message everywhere... it doesn't fit in this thread, or several of the others you've posted this in. Stick to the topic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/30/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 160 fans permalink
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Stick to the topic!

Having said that...

Posters, join my campaign to get the reply limit taken off. You get a troll halfway to the woodshed and the next reply button has been replaced with "favorite". Complain to the moderators in your posts and at this e-mail address.

huffingtonpost.compost.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 05/30/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

I also want the ^%#$@& PARENT button back!!! How the f--k do you keep track of who is replying to who without it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/30/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Wont do any good. This is not a democracy at Hufpo, and if you have not noticed, Arianna is a hypocrite. She is on every TV, radio show , blog and whatever talking about free speech and things like that. But in her world, its censorship and dictatorship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 05/31/2008

America is still the greatest country on earth. As a nation we are inventive, courageous and able to meet new challenges. It is imperative,however, that we focus on math, science and engineering education. Our economy and future depend on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/30/2008

"As a nation we are inventive, courageous and able to meet new challenges. "

Hardly. We have tiny fractions of our population which are just that. See the guys at JPL, for instance, who just landed on Mars, again, and then shot a picture of the lander on its parachute. But as a nation, we are behind the moon. And not the way NASA imagines. Just look at any poll about science literacy (evolution, big bang, global warning, anyone?), high school graduation (should be 100%, not 70% or less) and the youth's employment prospects (can't expect much these days if you didn't go to college!).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/30/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

Do you know what the starting pay is for a teacher with a four year degree? Probably not.
How about starting pay for a NBA player? Would you believe ten times what that teacher makes? Considering our f--ked up priorities, we deserve to sink into the muck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 05/30/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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I just have to ask you.. Have you ever been to any other country?? I mean besides Canada or maybe Mexico?? I have, and I will tell you we are not the greatest. Sure, we are pretty damn good compared to many, but the greatest all the way around?? Not a chance. There are at least a dozen who whoop are asses in everything, including social, moral, and human rights. Better healthcare, and its universal as well. Better wages, better working conditions and less of this American style capitalism crap were only a few greedy bastards get it all, and the rest of us work for next to nothing. And we sure as hell dont have more freedoms than a lot of other countries.
So I am guessing that you have either never been to any other country, or you have only been to a few and only in the tourist traps. You have never really seen or experienced another country. Because the only people I have ever met that say that, are just those types of people. Those who eat the spoon feed propaganda that we are the greatest, and then repeat it as if they really know. So take a few years, experience the world, and then come back and tell us what you , yourself, based on facts, actually think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/31/2008

Bummer! Who'd have thunk? I mean expect for pretty much everyone...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 05/30/2008
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Right now on HuffPo, I am reminded about Catch22, the man who saw everything twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/30/2008

Yeah, I'd be raising my hand, too.

I was hoping one result of the lousy economy would be brides coming to their senses about having stupidly expensive weddings, but I see in this article one such bride spent hers and her fiance's checks on 60.00 a plate food for their reception. I'm sure the guests will still be talking about that impressive food long after she and her guy are divorced and remarried to other people--except probably not. It will be forgotten right along with the expensive wedding album and the DVD. Ever wonder what happens to those 5,000 dollars worth of wedding photos a few years later when the couple divorces (as half of them will)? I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of those divorces are caused by constant arguing over money, arguments they wouldn't be having if they'd saved the 25-50 thousand bucks they wasted on a fancy wedding.

My hat is off to the couple who only spent 800.00 on heating oil last year, they either have a very efficient furnace or they stayed cold all winter. In my area that would have bought around 225 to 250 gallons of oil, half as much as I used to use to get through the heating season. At current prices here, the thousand dollars they set aside would buy that same 250 gallons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/30/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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DID ANYONE SERIOUSLY THINK BUSINESS WAS GOING TO SET BY AND NOT GO AFTER THE MONEY ANY WAY THEY CAN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/30/2008
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 17 fans permalink
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"U.S. consumer sentiment dropped to the lowest level in nearly 28 years in May as worries about inflation grew, according to the University of Michigan/Reuters consumer sentiment index released Friday."

Why don't these people exclude food and energy so they would worry less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/30/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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But the US gov economist do. I always get a kick out that.

Inflation is only up 3% * excluding food and energy*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 05/31/2008

Your mock rebate check should have had a space for a second "signature". While the checks were authorized by Congress, the money was probably loaned to the US Treasury by the central bank of China. When foreign central banks stop buying our bonds, the jig will be up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 05/30/2008
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My check had two endorsements, mine and... a presigned endorsement in colorless ink from someone named "Hu Jintao".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 05/30/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

LOL!
(You get an "A" for knowing the Chinese Premier's name)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/30/2008

You're welcome to send it back to the Treasury Department if you don't like it.

No? I didn't think so...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/30/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 134 fans permalink
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Why send back what we should have had in the first place. We're just being good American Capitalist. Take the money , no matter how you can get it, just take it !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 05/31/2008
- drkazmd65 I'm a Fan of drkazmd65 55 fans permalink
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Once again,... illustrating why our President, and our Congress are a bunch of idiotic, pandering, empty-headed fools,...

Show of hands,... How many of us 'peons' here knew that the "Rebate" checks would mostly be going towards old debt, hidden in savings, or used to cover the increased costs associated with our "actual" costs of living?

*raises hand*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/30/2008
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*raises hand*

Mine is going to a credit card bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/30/2008
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