Tens Of Thousands Of Iraqis Protest US-Iraq Security Deal

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ROBERT H. REID | May 30, 2008 04:15 PM EST | AP

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Iraqi demonstrators shout slogans during a protest in the Kazimiyah northern district of Baghdad, on Friday, May 30, 2008. Tens of thousands of Shiites took to the streets in Baghdad and other cities to protest plans for a long term security agreement with the United States. The banner in the background reads: "No to the security agreement between the occupation and the Iraqi government". (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after the current U.N. mandate expires.

Although U.S. officials insist they are not seeking permanent bases, suspicion runs deep among many Iraqis that the Americans want to keep at least some troops in the country for many years.

"We denounce the government's intentions to sign a long-term agreement with the occupying forces," Asaad al-Nassiri, a sheik loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, said during a sermon in Kufa. "Our army will be under their control in this agreement, and this will lead to them having permanent bases in Iraq."

President Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki signed a statement last December on the future of U.S.-Iraqi relations, saying they planned to finalize a new security agreement by July 31 _ in time for Iraq's parliament to approve the deal before a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

U.S. and Iraqi officials began negotiations in March on a blueprint for the long-term security agreement and a second deal, to establish the legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in the country after the U.N. mandate runs out.

Rallies in Baghdad and several other Iraqi cities followed Friday prayer services and were the first in wake of a call by al-Sadr for weekly protests against the deal, even though few details of the talks have been released.

Most of the protesters appeared to be followers of al-Sadr, the hardline Shiite cleric and militia leader whose Mahdi Army battled American and Iraqi troops in Baghdad's Sadr City district until a truce this month ended nearly seven weeks of fighting.

But opposition to the agreement appears to be growing beyond the Sadrist movement.

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A militant Sunni clerical group, the Association of Muslim Scholars, denounced the "ring of secrecy" surrounding the talks and said the proposed deal would pave the way for "military, economic and cultural domination" by the Americans.

On Thursday, the head of the country's biggest mainstream Shiite party, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, said some unspecified points under negotiation "violate Iraq's national sovereignty," adding that a "national consensus" was emerging against the proposed agreement.

Al-Hakim is al-Sadr's main rival in the majority Shiite community and maintains close ties to the country's main Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. Aides to the powerful ayatollah say he also has reservations about the deal.

Some congressional Democrats are also insisting that Congress should authorize any agreement that would obligate the United States to defend Iraq.

Before the Friday protests, al-Sadr's office in Baghdad issued a statement branding the negotiations as "a project of humiliation" aimed at turning Iraq "into a small stooge of the United States."

U.S. officials have declined to comment on the talks until the draft is completed.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said two weeks ago that "we are making progress" although other Iraqi officials acknowledged there were many unresolved issues, including how many Americans would remain and what they would do. American soldiers now enjoy full immunity from the Iraqi legal system.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not supposed to talk about the negotiations.

Rallies against the security deal occurred as the U.S. military was seeking to contain the public relations damage caused by reports that an American Marine handed out coins promoting Christianity to Sunni Muslims in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah.

Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: "Where will you spend eternity?"

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16."

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn't receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

"Indications are this was an isolated incident _ an individual Marine acting on his own accord passing out coins," Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, a spokesman for U.S. forces in western Iraq, said in an e-mailed statement.

Distribution of the coins was the second perceived insult to Islam by American service members this month. A U.S. Army sniper was sent out of the country after using a Quran, Islam's holy book, for target practice in a predominantly Sunni area west of Baghdad.

"This event did not happen by chance, but it was planned and done intentionally," Sheik Abdul-Rahman al-Zubaie, an influential tribal leader in Fallujah, said of the coins. "The Sunni population cannot accept and endure such a thing. I might not be able to control people's reactions if such incidents keep happening."

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Associated Press writer Sameer N. Yacoub and AP staff in Fallujah contributed to this report.

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U...
BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U...
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- research I'm a Fan of research 248 fans permalink

70% of Iraqis think it's ok to kill American soldiers.

The Iraqis want us gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 05/31/2008
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I understand that the protesters anti-American leadership has endorsed Mr. Obama who they say shares their views!

Looks like a little walking around money from Axelrod goes a long way........

Rise Hillary, this man will lose the election for us in the fall.........
It's not too late, contact the DNC and your congressional reps and let 'em know how you feel!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/31/2008

RB: Please provide a link to your statement above that shows the Sadrists supporting Obama. If not available, rescind your comment here ASAP. Then go troll elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/31/2008
- robeson I'm a Fan of robeson 21 fans permalink
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There is no evidence. He made it up. The rocket is buried deep in his rear silo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/31/2008
- jalapeno I'm a Fan of jalapeno 25 fans permalink
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Don't worry the marines will convert everyone to christianity and then when the rapture comes in a few months, POOF! they will all be gone, and we who are left can enjoy the thousand years of PEACE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 05/31/2008
- Desdemondo I'm a Fan of Desdemondo 2 fans permalink

Have you Americans no shame?

The Iraqis and the rest of the world (except Israel) want you out of their country. Is there something Americans alone understand that the rest of the world does not? Or are Americans incapable of comprehending "Get out"

Worldwide, Americans are seen as invaders who have waged a blood for oil war that saw Americans wantonly murdering, maiming and Abhu Ghraibing Iraqi men, women and children in an effort to gain control of Iraqs vast oil fields and reserves.

America! get out now before you lose the last modicum of decency you have remaining

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 05/31/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 29 fans permalink
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Have YOU no shame? You mischaracterize reality to fit your emotional needs.

"The Iraqis and the rest of the world (except Israel) want you out of their country." This is not true. There is no movement whatsover worldwide to have us leave. The "world" understands the holocaust that would've occured if we left a couple years ago, like so many here wanted us to do. There are thousands of Iraqis protesting, not millions. You can't say that these protesters speak for all Iraqis.

There is NO strong messge of "get out" from the "world".

We have not waged this war for oil.. where is the evidence? Why is oil not flowing out of the country at the rate is was before the invasion?

Abhu Graib is the EXCEPTION, not the RULE. We aren't "wantonly" murdering. This is a war. We take no pleasure in it. Again, it's not for oil.

I understand you probably have strong feelings about this, we all do, but please don't exaggerate reality to try to prove your point. It's unnecessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 05/31/2008
- feo I'm a Fan of feo 30 fans permalink

If this war wasn't for or because of oil, then the war was for nothing, inasmuch as there is nothing else in Iraq worth the expenditures we've made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 05/31/2008
- leduck I'm a Fan of leduck 30 fans permalink
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It's about Oil stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/31/2008
- leduck I'm a Fan of leduck 30 fans permalink
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Just after the invasion there was a lot of looting in Iraq. I'll give you 3 guesses as to the only govt. agency protected by the U.S. military during that period of time.

a) The oil Ministry, the oil ministry, the oil ministry
b) a chocolate factory
c) Sadam's palaces

Answer: the oil ministry

I can’t prove beyond reasonable doubt that we invaded for oil. However, considering Peak Oil (the end of cheap energy) – the worlds oil production (light sweet crude) has been flat since 2004, the fact that Iraq has the world’s largest reserves (of light sweet crude – high quality stuff), most light sweet crude is located in the Middle East; the secret energy meeting Dick Cheney had prior to 9/11; Add to that the fact that the Neocons wanted to invade Iraq long b4 9/11; the evaporating crap about WMD (which worked – it got us in their but it was based on lies the rest of the world did not believe) – we even had to create an office of special plans because our own CIA and FBI didn’t believe Bush administration crap. This is just the tip of the ice berg off the top of my head…., I think it’s safe to assume to assume Oil was the main motivating factor. Want more proof…, Iraq is now producing more oil than it did b4 the invasion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 05/31/2008
- leduck I'm a Fan of leduck 30 fans permalink
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You sound like the bush administration telling sadam to prove he doesn't have WMD.
Ican't prove anything but I can point to evidence to support my conclusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 05/31/2008

Smellyone has been drinking the Kool-Aid provided by the criminal Bu$hCo.
The US is building a multi-million dollar embassy in Baghdad.
The US negotiated with Iraq this week to provide un-ending 'security services' which secures our prescence in their country from here on out.
Sorry, Desdemondo, the 'Murican sheeple lost their will a long time ago to be an active participant in our 'democracy' and to hold our govmint accountable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/31/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 29 fans permalink
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You talk about an embassy and "security services"... what does that have to do with what I wrote below?

I really dislike Bush and what he has done to this country. I think invading Iraq was wrong.

I also think that abandoning Iraq while they need us is wrong.

Don't tell me I'm drinking anyone's Kool-Aid. I would love if McClellen were to testify against Bush and Friends.

You are the sheep... you have been brainwashed into thinking that anyone who disagrees with the shit that Desdemondo says is a robot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/31/2008

What a disgrace! They Iraq people want us gone. Most US citizens want us out of there. The only jerks who want us there are Bush and McCain. I don't know what it takes for these two to get the message. We have no business being there anymore...it is a civil war....not our business.

Let Bush and McCain put on a helmut and pick up a gun and go over there and fight. Nevermind sitting in an oval office and playing general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 05/31/2008
- minnehot I'm a Fan of minnehot 7 fans permalink

Sadr and his Iranian backers want us gone. The Sunni's, Kurds, and mainstream Shia's want us to stay. This lazy biased reporting that Sadr and his Iranian financed militia somehow represents all of Iraq is simply dishonest.

In May the US and Iraq military suffered the FEWEST casulties of the entire war! (wouldn't know that fact by reading this blog, eh?) The Iraqi military has taken control of Basra, Mosul, Sadr City, and has stopped the civil war in Baghdad.

Between now and election day Obama, Nancy (peace is through Damascus) Pelosi, and Harry(The War is Lost) Reid have some explaining to do. The USA has won this war and this new reality is going to come back and severely sting the Democrats who talked down our troops at every opportunity and declared the war to be a lost cause. What answer will they have? Will Americans celebrate victory? You betcha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/31/2008
- feo I'm a Fan of feo 30 fans permalink

The "war" was "won" years ago; it's the stuff following the war that's been a disaster. There was never any doubt that the US military could easily defeat the Iraqi military; that's called dwelling on the obvious. It's the mess afterwards that is of concern.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 05/31/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

You said the magic word twice in your post: business. Ours is a government of business, by business, and for business. It makes no difference what you or I want. The plutocrats and their lawyers, i.e., Senators and Representatives, have hijacked this country in the name of profit.

It's time to exercise our right of revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/31/2008
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Ours is not a government of business. Ours is a government of corporate kleptocracy. It's generally called "fascism." Americans defeated the fascists once and then let them simply buy up and dismantle their republic.
I was bitterly amused to see MSNBC "reporter" John Harwood on C-Span recently, saying that American political opinion ranges from the "far left" of socialism to the "far right" of ... blank out. Darn it. He just couldn't remember what that pesky political philosophy is that occupies the far right position.
You can tell you're in a fascist state when the corporate "reporters" are afraid to even SAY the word "fascism."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 06/01/2008
- CactusTom I'm a Fan of CactusTom 30 fans permalink

First off can we (particularly Democrats who should know better) stop referring to our goings on in Iraq as "The War in Iraq." We won the war years ago! Let us call it what it really is, we are losing the OCCUPATION of, and the installation of, OUR puppet government. It was always the intension of the Neocons to return Iraq to the status of an American client state that it had been under Saddam before he went off the reservation and invaded Kuwait. Occupations are nearly impossible under the best of conditions let alone a region made up of violent tribal gangs and religious fanatics.

McCain keeps blabbering about winning. What the heck does he think there is there is to win by our continued occupation of a madhouse.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/31/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

Some congressional Democrats are also insisting that Congress should authorize any agreement that would obligate the United States to defend Iraq.

Oh, yeah. Crap (palm slap to the forhead) the Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/31/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 223 fans permalink

The "people" ... Iraqi people that is, want our military presence out of their nation! It seems that there will always be sectarian, insurgent, civil unrest in Iraqi ... thanks to our stiring that nest! If there were (seems to moi) civil unrest here in our country, the enforcement of laws would be addressed by our police department. What the hell are we doing there!!?

John McCain says he'll "never" surrender ... surrender to whom John .... there is no Iraqi military remember ... you and your transmigrate destroyed Iraqi's military .... soooo, who is it that you"ll never surrender to in Iraqi .... the people!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 05/31/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 29 fans permalink
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Now I'm convinced the Surge has worked... France is getting back in the game...

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jDME9vbX9UdOIlV2G19BMiO1mq8w

"The situation in Iraq is improving, but the crisis is far from over," a French diplomatic source in Paris said, adding that France was "available to host an Iraq reconciliation conference if it was deemed useful."

"It is important that the international community, particularly the European Union, rise to the occasion to help Iraqis," added the source..."


Wow. The French want to "rise to the occasion to help Iraqis", yet many here on HuffPo have said "F**k them" and want to abandon the effort.

Is anyone here willing to step up and say they were wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/31/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 222 fans permalink
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And the victory of the occupation is just around the corner again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 05/31/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 29 fans permalink
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"victory of the occupation" is a phrase that YOU made up.

There is no contest in the occupation. There are only levels of security we are trying to achieve.

You have set up a false premise.

Is that the best you can do? Why not speak to what I have written?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 05/31/2008
- GayGrandpa I'm a Fan of GayGrandpa 64 fans permalink

The only thing lasting longer than this war is Hillary's run for the Democratic nomination...I say it is time to stop both of these nasty headaches!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 05/31/2008
- jbatch I'm a Fan of jbatch 41 fans permalink

"they'll greet us with flowers."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/31/2008
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 16 fans permalink

Shouldn't we be protesting over here, too?

Or, is MSM keeping this quiet. This type of thing done in secret, only raises more suspicions. Just like the North American Union (PFPP, or whatever it is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 05/31/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Go for it, you waste your Saturday protesting, I'm going golfing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/31/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 15 fans permalink

Golfiing? since when was that activity not a waste of time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/31/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 29 fans permalink
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Don't blame the MSM for any shortcomings in public awareness of protests.

We live in the information age. Marketing is a science. The "Do It Yourself" punk-rock mentality is now easily achievable through desktop technology.

If you have a message you want to get out, you can do it.

There aren't enough protesters to make a dent for the MSM, and they aren't overcoming their low numbers through creative information attacks.

Pink shirts at gov't hearings makes hippies feel good, but it does shit to move the needle on public opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 05/31/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 276 fans permalink
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"If they ask us to leave we will leave."

The chimp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 05/31/2008
- Crowhaul I'm a Fan of Crowhaul 12 fans permalink
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The Bush Doctrine:

1) Start a war of aggression (which, btw, is the #1 international crime per the Geneva Conventions)

2) Topple the standing government

3) Setup a puppet government

4) Instruct puppet government to grant us permanent military bases

5) Instruct puppet government to pass the Hydrocarbon Bill, allowing 'foreign corporations' majority rights to new oil fields and significant rights to existing oil fields

6) Begin planning new high-rise hotels and shopping malls for expanded Green Zone

7) Go to Step 1 for next country (Iran)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 05/31/2008
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 16 fans permalink

Bu$h doesn't even rinse before the repeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 05/31/2008
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

The US has been doing this since about forever, but especially since WWII. It's astonishing how little Americans know about the activities of their government, and how clearly the rest of the world sees what we're doing. Read Confessions of an Economic Hitman and/or Noam Chomsky's Hegemony or Survival (which is a long, slow, slog of a read, but well worth it) to get the real scoop on how our government uses its power to enrich US businesses and steal resources from other countries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 05/31/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 222 fans permalink
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8, build permanent 'Enduring Freedom" bases on top of oil reservoirs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 05/31/2008
- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

I would like to QUALIFY the comment I just made about our TROOPS staying in IRAQ.
This should of course be understood .
1 - we should not look like occupiers mentionned means we cannot stay if the IRAQIS are not satisfied with us staying
2- we cannot sustain so many troops because it costs too much lives and dollars, and it hurts the soldiers to be away from their family.
3- WE MUST ALWAYS HAVE ENOUGH TROOPS TO FIGHT AL-QAEDA in Iraq .
because that will make us lose the war on Terrorism.
4- one way to fight AL-QAEDA is to SHOW that the US IS NOT OCCUPYING IRAQ, because that is the ONLY legitimate Bin-Laden request from the start.
ISLAMIC NATION DOES NOT LIKE TO BE OCCUPIED. ACTUALLY SHOW ME ONE NATION THAT LIKES THAT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 05/31/2008
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