Tens Of Thousands Of Iraqis Protest US-Iraq Security Deal

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ROBERT H. REID | May 30, 2008 04:15 PM EST | AP

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Iraqi demonstrators shout slogans during a protest in the Kazimiyah northern district of Baghdad, on Friday, May 30, 2008. Tens of thousands of Shiites took to the streets in Baghdad and other cities to protest plans for a long term security agreement with the United States. The banner in the background reads: "No to the security agreement between the occupation and the Iraqi government". (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after the current U.N. mandate expires.

Although U.S. officials insist they are not seeking permanent bases, suspicion runs deep among many Iraqis that the Americans want to keep at least some troops in the country for many years.

"We denounce the government's intentions to sign a long-term agreement with the occupying forces," Asaad al-Nassiri, a sheik loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, said during a sermon in Kufa. "Our army will be under their control in this agreement, and this will lead to them having permanent bases in Iraq."

President Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki signed a statement last December on the future of U.S.-Iraqi relations, saying they planned to finalize a new security agreement by July 31 _ in time for Iraq's parliament to approve the deal before a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

U.S. and Iraqi officials began negotiations in March on a blueprint for the long-term security agreement and a second deal, to establish the legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in the country after the U.N. mandate runs out.

Rallies in Baghdad and several other Iraqi cities followed Friday prayer services and were the first in wake of a call by al-Sadr for weekly protests against the deal, even though few details of the talks have been released.

Most of the protesters appeared to be followers of al-Sadr, the hardline Shiite cleric and militia leader whose Mahdi Army battled American and Iraqi troops in Baghdad's Sadr City district until a truce this month ended nearly seven weeks of fighting.

But opposition to the agreement appears to be growing beyond the Sadrist movement.

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A militant Sunni clerical group, the Association of Muslim Scholars, denounced the "ring of secrecy" surrounding the talks and said the proposed deal would pave the way for "military, economic and cultural domination" by the Americans.

On Thursday, the head of the country's biggest mainstream Shiite party, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, said some unspecified points under negotiation "violate Iraq's national sovereignty," adding that a "national consensus" was emerging against the proposed agreement.

Al-Hakim is al-Sadr's main rival in the majority Shiite community and maintains close ties to the country's main Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. Aides to the powerful ayatollah say he also has reservations about the deal.

Some congressional Democrats are also insisting that Congress should authorize any agreement that would obligate the United States to defend Iraq.

Before the Friday protests, al-Sadr's office in Baghdad issued a statement branding the negotiations as "a project of humiliation" aimed at turning Iraq "into a small stooge of the United States."

U.S. officials have declined to comment on the talks until the draft is completed.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said two weeks ago that "we are making progress" although other Iraqi officials acknowledged there were many unresolved issues, including how many Americans would remain and what they would do. American soldiers now enjoy full immunity from the Iraqi legal system.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not supposed to talk about the negotiations.

Rallies against the security deal occurred as the U.S. military was seeking to contain the public relations damage caused by reports that an American Marine handed out coins promoting Christianity to Sunni Muslims in the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah.

Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: "Where will you spend eternity?"

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16."

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn't receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

"Indications are this was an isolated incident _ an individual Marine acting on his own accord passing out coins," Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, a spokesman for U.S. forces in western Iraq, said in an e-mailed statement.

Distribution of the coins was the second perceived insult to Islam by American service members this month. A U.S. Army sniper was sent out of the country after using a Quran, Islam's holy book, for target practice in a predominantly Sunni area west of Baghdad.

"This event did not happen by chance, but it was planned and done intentionally," Sheik Abdul-Rahman al-Zubaie, an influential tribal leader in Fallujah, said of the coins. "The Sunni population cannot accept and endure such a thing. I might not be able to control people's reactions if such incidents keep happening."

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Associated Press writer Sameer N. Yacoub and AP staff in Fallujah contributed to this report.

BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands rallied in several cities Friday against a proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement, raising doubts that negotiators can meet a July target to finalize a pact to keep U...
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- Yasmine I'm a Fan of Yasmine 9 fans permalink

America should not look like OCCUPIER let alone an ARROGANT Occupier.
This makes the protest quite legitimate.
I say this , as a person who would like US troops to remain in Iraq until asked to leave,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 05/31/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 122 fans permalink
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Yeah, things really seem under control Mr. McCain.

We need to get our Troops the f*ck out of there, and start the investigations into this Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/31/2008
- Dancer I'm a Fan of Dancer 3 fans permalink

TELL ME WHY this story isn't your HEADLINE instead of your latest nasty screed against Hillary...­your coverage of the Democratic primary has been shameful..­.I'm so over you...YOU could have lead the way in going after McCain but, NO, mustn't miss an opportunity to slam Hillary and Bill (wish I knew the back story that that effort - did they turn down an interview?­)...Of course more and more people are waking up to the fact that our MSM and many (getting rich) blogs are not doing the job they could/shou­ld...so there WILL BE CHANGES...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 05/31/2008

I agree, as probably does the rest of the world, all except the Bush administration. Well, thank God we gave them the complete power to screw us and the Iraqi's. If the whole world can conceive of this notion, I wonder why nothing is being done to date? What is everyone waiting for? Enough pushing and we will be attacked again, which I thought we were over there to try to prevent...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 05/31/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 247 fans permalink
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Do you think these folks know that we built are permanent "Enduring Freedom" bases on top of their oil reservoirs?

Do you think us folks know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 05/31/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 399 fans permalink
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Silly Iraqis. Acting like they're a sovereign nation or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 05/31/2008

Ruh Row Raggy! Could be a long, hot summer in Iraq. Just the thing we need before the elections. I would send John McCain over there again, maybe to Sadr City, to spoon feed us the same old crap about how well things are going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 05/31/2008
- Rianna I'm a Fan of Rianna 13 fans permalink

Are these Hillary's supporters?

She has trained them well to protest today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 05/31/2008

Democracy only exists in the American mind.. A mind that doesn't really understand it..

Rock On.. USA... USA.. USA.....:)
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 05/31/2008
- likeicare I'm a Fan of likeicare 8 fans permalink

Look, folks, the Iraq War is a fucking GOLD MINE of opportunity for friends of the Cheney/Bush regime who hold generous, no-bid contracts with the Pentagon and State Dept -- there's no way they're going to let a little thing like the Iraqi peoples' objections to their staying there interfere with their profit margins, so just forget that idea.

As long as we're "fighting" an unwinnable -- and indefinite -- war, there will always be the need for goods and services, right? And as long as there's a need for goods and services, there will be the need for someone to supply them, right?

And who better to fill those needs than friends of the regime who have companies (or sit on the boards of) that could provide those services -- right? It's all very simple, you see -- if you're chummy with the guys in power, you profit. If not, you wither and die.

Think of it as street-gang violence and retribution -- only it's Wall Street-gang violence -- paid for with our tax dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 05/31/2008
- oxygen I'm a Fan of oxygen 26 fans permalink
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hello, isn't there a typographical error in this article? (about what some congressional democrats want)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 05/31/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 122 fans permalink
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I sure hope so, LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 05/31/2008

Okay, back to civics. Any such agreement would be a treaty and treaties are made by the executive but need to be approved by congress before they become effective. I think I have that right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 05/31/2008

If the agreement is not in the form of a treaty ratified by the Senate, it is not binding on future administrations. For example, President Obama can, if he wishes, simply ignore it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 05/31/2008

The "war" is still on solely to keep the $10 billion per month ATM running. Lots of people in the right circles are now very wealthy because of this conflict.

We'll never get out until the American people say, "Enough."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 05/31/2008
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One Two: I said , "Enough," in 2003, drove to DC, stayed over, but marched against the outrage called, Iraq, the entire day that Saturday. There were at least 10,000 people there. Did the MSM ever show us on T.V.? No, never covered it. Guess this was not "news." C-Span was the only station showing us marching. This was the best $600.00 I ever spent. I loved marching by the WH, turning to the building, and screaming, "George, you are fired!".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 05/31/2008
- Jason357 I'm a Fan of Jason357 8 fans permalink

Yep. It's all just a stall to keep the money machine running. I think Bush is determined to keep the price of oil and commodities maxed out, and this war grinding up until the last second of his term. Bush has orchestrated the largest looting of the US Treasury ever. That's his legacy, unsustainable debt, secrecy, torture, destruction of civil liberties, and corruption.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 05/31/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

All supported by Republicans. What do Bush, Chaney, McCain have in common?

Answer; they are Republican war mongers and oil barons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 05/31/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 83 fans permalink
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Obama would get my vote in the general if he were to indicate there would be investigations and accountability for the FRAUD that has occurred over the past 8 years...

FUCK PAYING TAXES if there is no way to know how OUR money was spent...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/31/2008
- HairyRead I'm a Fan of HairyRead 5 fans permalink

Tens Of Thousands Of Iraqis Protest US-Iraq Security Deal....

Millions don't.

Democrats urge non-converts to read fake book by turncoat butt-boy..­.. film at 11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 AM on 05/31/2008

When the terrorists speak, the surrender monkeys listen. Tens of thousands Al Sadr militants leave their weapons at home and whine about being defeated. When terrorists can't kill other people they have to resort to peaceful protest. I think we are doing them a favor and giving them a chance to express themselves constructively. Huffers would rather give terroists a chance to oppose America, but are reluctant to allow Hillary her Democratic rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 AM on 05/31/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 276 fans permalink

Chimp, you still believe? What does it take for you to see that the Iraq War crime is for BushCo's oil companies and war profiteers? You want a fascist USA? You think you'll like it? What?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 05/31/2008
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Hmmm . . . Al Sadr is a terrorist?

Dude, it's his country. Remember? How can he been a terrorist in his own nation resisting a foreign army? He doesn't need a valid or moral or logical reason to resist. It's his country. He has way more moral authority to use military power there than we we do.

My God, what wouldn't you do if a foreign military power was in the US? It doesn't matter what you think you or anyone else.

We are be definition in the middle of civil war. Dumb. How would Americans have felt if France had interceded on the side of the North or South in 1861 here??

Also---I don't know if you have noticed, but the dollar is plummeting because Bush is bleeding America like a stuck pig----billions flowing out that we don't have--then we borrow it from China--an emerging economic super power---DUMB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 AM on 05/31/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 114 fans permalink
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Nonsense. You have no right to occupy the country for as long as you want and the population opinion is clear: get out.
Besides, the terrorists that you speak of are almost all Iraqi so you're killing those you supposedly came to rescue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 05/31/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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So she can keep Blackwater and Haliburton going? No thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 05/31/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 399 fans permalink
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Would that be the terrorists that we're arming or the other ones? I have a hard time keeping track.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 05/31/2008
- MetryJen I'm a Fan of MetryJen 3 fans permalink

Maybe it's the ones we're paying not to be terrorists that are terrorists anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 05/31/2008
- xxnounxx I'm a Fan of xxnounxx 5 fans permalink

welcome to the promised land,america on one corner ans isreal on the opposite corner,soon they will swoon and link together by invading the rest of the countries in-between iraq and isreal (occupied palestine) then in the isrealis dream would become true according to them the promise land stretches from palestine to babylon(iraq) next in the future generation they will claim there where no such people called iraqi's,just like they beleive the lie,that there is no such this is a people called palestinia­ns..for the love of god when is this bullying and policing other countries going to stop..is the big land of the america's not a good enough booty.
we looked after ourselves well before,until america set foot on our land and decided to make us democratic­s...i am happy with being uncivilise­d,undemocr­atic,ridin­g camels and drinking their milk all day,than bee dictated to by the UNDEMOCRATIC AMERICA. sort out your own problems first ,before poking your nose in other peoples bussiness.­..HOW WEIRD I USED TO LOVE AMERICA,now i would rather see the angel of death,than see anything to do with that imbicile bush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 05/31/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 82 fans permalink
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American economist Jeremy Rifkin has calculated the number of years known world oil reserves would last at current rates of consumption and extraction. In the US it would be only 10 years. By contrast, in Iran it would be 53 years; in Saudi Arabia 55; in the United Arab Emirates 75; in Kuwait 116; and in Iraq no less than 526 years. That says it all about controlling oil reserves in the Middle East.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 05/31/2008
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We needed to take the trillion $ we are blowing in mideast and invest it in developing a new fuel source: nuclear fusion (different from fission---much better)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power

This is theoretically possible and some Euro countries are working on it. Not us though--we would rather piss away are resources fighting over oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 05/31/2008
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 71 fans permalink
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$$$$$$$$$$­$$$$$$$$$$­$$$$$$

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/31/2008
- dorkenergy I'm a Fan of dorkenergy 9 fans permalink

< as if nobody remembers this >

Reagan took the money away from the fusion program (and other alt. energy inc. the solar program) when he and George "Oil" Bush I came to power.

< /end historical note >

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 05/31/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

We are fighting them there so we won't have to fight them here.

The goal of al Qaeda is to destroy the US economy. That is why they attacked the World Trade Center. You be the judge, are they succeeding?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 05/31/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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Yes and I believe I heard this President say that the Iraq war would be paid for with the Oil in there country. Where is our money? What's happening to the profits off the Oil in Iraq and in the black market in Iraq. Why isn't there any reporting on this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/31/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

There is no reporting of oil profits because everyone already knows what is going on.

Every time you buy fuel and pay their price, you know what is going on. Oil is traded in dollars. It's war dollars that are keeping the cycle going. A lot of Americans are getting rich off of the wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 05/31/2008

I am not affiliated with any religion, and view all religious institutions as horrific bloodthirsty failures as purveyors of religion, each with oceans innocent blood on their hands, and all of them political economic entities exploiting religion for their own respective political economic ends.

The mere idea that the US military would bow like snivelling grandmothers and repremand our own soldiers for passing out religious coins or shooting a koran in a society whose religious leaders happily send their dauthers and sons to blow up innocent people, stone women for exposing their shoulders, and relish in beheadings - is appalling.

Iraq was, is, and always will be a crime scene and an excuse for the fascists in the Bush government maruad Iraq oil, and profiteer wantonly in and from the perfidious process.

All the Bush government prewar bruting and blandishments are proven failures. Yet, the military objectives have already been achieved. Claim victory, organize an orderly redeployment of American forces out of Iraq, and resume the more important work of hunting, capturing or killing every jihadists mass murderer, and all those who aid and abet them on the planet, and leave governing of Iraq to Iraqi's.

Killing jihadists is necessary and critical. Occupying foriegn nations, erecting puppet governments beholden to the fascists in the Bush government, slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent people, marauding the victim nations resources, and profiteering wantonly, is a betrayal and radical depature from Americas principles and critical military objectives. Not to mention tyrannical, illegal, and

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 05/31/2008

As a smug anti-religionist, do you instead admire the Governments that abhor religion? Let's narrow the group to French revolutionaries, Russian communists, Maoists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 05/31/2008

Hello Straw Man argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 AM on 05/31/2008
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It is not and never is about religion.

Religion is just a tool for rallying people to a nationalist cause: we do it here (right wing evangels) Osama does it over there (OBL doesn't care about Islam--he use it).

Of course people have valid and sincere religious beliefs, but fundamentalism is always political--where ever it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 05/31/2008
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